Isn't available ?
Isn't visual editor available in the wikipedia app? Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 01:57, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kushal Dev Wiki: Welcome to the Teahouse! As far as I know, it isn't available in the app. (Also, please don't make duplicate sections, thanks!) Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 13:41, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
visual editor on wikipedia app
Is visual editor available in wikipedia app?How to access it in the app? Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 13:15, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kushal Dev Wiki: Nope. I can say from experience that the editor for mainspace articles in the iOS app is always source + syntax highlighting. (I assume Android is same.) For WYSIWYG editing, you'll need to do it in a web browser. Pelagic ( messages ) – (22:09 Tue 25, AEST) 12:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- I can confirm that the Android app does not have the Visual Editor functionality. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:59, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kushal Dev Wiki There is visual editing for mobile Wikipedia on a web browser, not in wikipedia app though. max20characters 🇺🇸 16:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
The articles available in different languages are translated by a translator or a wikipedian ?
Nepali wikipedia lacks so many topics.I want to create articles in Nepali by translating those one in english so that it may be easier for the Nepali users.I require suggestions and helps. Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 02:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Kushal Dev Wiki: Follow the guidance at WP:TRANSLATEUS. You should also check the guidelines at the Nepali Wikipedia, since each langauge Wikipedia has its own rules for what is an acceptable article. RudolfRed (talk) 02:13, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Anyone is welcome to edit Wikipedia, and in any language. If you speak Nepali, you are free to write articles on the Nepali Wikipedia, just as you are on the English Wikipedia. You can write them from scratch, translate them from other languages (including English), or use the sources available on the corresponding English language page. Here is a brief guide for translating from English: Wikipedia:Translate us. — HTGS (talk) 02:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Kushal Dev Wiki. I don't have the link right now, but somewhere there is a list of 1000 essential topics. You could look at those, and see if any are missing in Nepali. Or just pick a topic that really interests you for your initial translations. Pelagic ( messages ) – (06:27 Wed 26, AEST) 20:27, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- See WP:VITAL. Sungodtemple (talk) 13:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, @Sungodtemple! — Pelagic ( messages ) – (08:13 Sat 29, AEST) 22:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- See WP:VITAL. Sungodtemple (talk) 13:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Editing information about a company you work for
Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia and have only made a few edits so far. I noticed that there are a couple of errors on the page for the company I work for, particularly relating to its location and headquarters. I'm aware that editing this page directly would not be a good idea due to the COI. Should I request an edit on the talk page and use a connected contributor template when doing so? How does that show up, and would I do this in combination with a "request edit" template, or instead? How would you recommend I go about this in a way that ensures the correct information is available while sticking to the rules and guidelines?
Ps. I've been looking through the rules in this article: Conflict-of-interest editing on Wikipedia, but got a bit confused about the general consensus around making changes to articles you're associated with. So any help/advice would be very much appreciated!
Thank you :) Catytac (talk) 11:44, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia! I appreciate that you follow integrity principles of Wikipedia. I can help you with this :). Just do the following:
- 1. Open the Talk page associated with the page you want to edit
- 2. On the Talk page and crate a new section at the very end and place
{ {Request edit} }
(without spaces between { signs) right after the title of your new section. See Template:Request edit for details. - 3. Describe exactly what you want to be changed and provide sources.
- 4. Wait for an experienced user (summoned by the "Request edit" template) to come in and implement your request or leave a comment.
- Anton.bersh (talk) 12:07, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's great, thank you so much for the instructions! Catytac (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Though may I add that common sense should always prevail. If the change you're proposing is completely non-controversial and trivial, such as updating the location of a company, then there shouldn't be any real issue in making the change, even if you work for the company. A conflict of interest requires a conflict: a situation where the Encyclopedia's desire to be neutral could conceivably conflict with your desire to present your company in a good way. If it's merely a neutral fact, incapable of creating a positive or negative impression, merely a "Smith Co. is based in Boston" rather than "Smith Co is based in New York", then I don't see any point in not just making the change. 62.64.181.70 (talk) 13:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, you might have forgotten to log in.
- If an edit is trivial, it has a high chance of being implemented very quickly, so there is no real reason to try and bypass the WP:COI process. On the other hand, if a page has a significant amount of COI material (even factual) it might be difficult for non-COI editors to improve the article. Consider EJBCA article: good-faith but COI editing resulted in a stalemate in which creators of the software (and therefore article subject experts) are effectively barred from editing the article directly, but no non-COI editor is willing to vouch for the proposed changes. Anton.bersh (talk) 23:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Though may I add that common sense should always prevail. If the change you're proposing is completely non-controversial and trivial, such as updating the location of a company, then there shouldn't be any real issue in making the change, even if you work for the company. A conflict of interest requires a conflict: a situation where the Encyclopedia's desire to be neutral could conceivably conflict with your desire to present your company in a good way. If it's merely a neutral fact, incapable of creating a positive or negative impression, merely a "Smith Co. is based in Boston" rather than "Smith Co is based in New York", then I don't see any point in not just making the change. 62.64.181.70 (talk) 13:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- That's great, thank you so much for the instructions! Catytac (talk) 13:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Use of non-free content in a list
My question is straightforward; is the use of non-free content to decorate an entry in a list fair use under WP:NFCC? The case example I'd like to bring up is the use of File:Inspiration4 Patch Art.png on List of Falcon 9 first-stage boosters (direct link to relevant section), where it is used to decorate the cell for "Dragon C207 Resilience (Inspiration-4)". — Molly Brown (talk) 02:06, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- My answer/question is similarly straightforword: would using this image for "decoration" impove the article or improve it in a significant enough way to even consider copyright issues? Personuser (talk) 02:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- At a closer look some other images in public domain are used in the same table. I would argue that they also don't really add anything to the article, eespecially in a table, where the things they are possibly supposed to mean can be expressed in a textual/sortable way, if they are not just eye candid. This is still mostly my personal opinion and not a Wikipedia guideline. Personuser (talk) 03:09, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy links (that I probably should have checked before) talk page section, deletion discussion on Commons. My advice is to wait for the commons discussion to finish, try your best to make your point in the talk page and only after that, if it's still needed, bring up the matter at WP:Media copyright questions or similar. Good luck and I hope this is resolved as quickly as possible, since it seems a lot of trouble for a relatively insignificant image. Personuser (talk) 04:36, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Molly Brown. IMO this fails fair use. If this was the subject of discussion in the prose of the list that would be one thing. This is approximately the opposite extreme, seemingly mostly decorative, and serves little educational purpose, which is the heart of fair use. See also WP:NFLISTS.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:54, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also WP:NFCCE states that it is the duty of users seeking to include or retain content to provide a valid rationale; that part is arguably only about retaining the file as a whole (the use of which may be more appropriate in Inspiration4). Couldn't find anything as clear about the use in single pages, but use of non-free content is surely the exception and not the rule, the burden of proof should be on the ones supporting it's use and the justification should be a bit more elaborated than the answers you got this far. Personuser (talk) 06:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think it's important as mission patches are intentionally decorative for space missions. There's a policy on that page at the moment to decorate any crewed missions with their mission patches. If we want to change that then we should achieve some type of consensus on the talk page first before willy-nilly removing images. Ergzay (talk) 10:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- The Unsinkable Molly Brown, fair use (non-free) images are never allowed on Wikimedia Commons, so that image will need to be removed there unless it can be shown to be public domain. WP:NFCI is the link to the policy language regarding uploads and use of non-free images locally on English Wikipedia. The policy is enforced strictly. As an aside, I reacted a bit negatively to your use of the word "decorate" which to me implies a bias against images. I think "illustrate" is a better and more neutral term, and it is a good thing to illustrate our articles (including list articles) with relevant, properly licensed images. Just my personal reaction. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cullen328: I think we might not be on the same page here. I'm not against using non-free images in articles to illustrate content, it's just that I'm against using this specific non-free image in this specific way, where it doesn't illustrate anything, really. All it does is display the mission patch and nothing more. I've seen numerous copyrighted mission insignia removed from wikitables over the years per WP:NFCC#3, so I don't see why this is such a special exception. — Molly Brown (talk) 03:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- The Unsinkable Molly Brown, there are at least two distinct issues at play here. One is whether this image is acceptable to be hosted on Wikimedia Commons, where it has been nominated for deletion. I think it should be deleted. The other issue is the editorial judgment question of whether it is appropriate for use in this specific list article. I have expressed no opinion about that, and you may well be right on that issue. You probably are. Maybe those other copyrighted mission insignia were hosted here on English Wikipedua instead of Commons, which can be slow to make deletion decisions. I do not know those details. We agree the image should go, just for different reasons. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cullen: Fair enough, I understand your point. I just wanted to make clear that I didn't have a bias against images, that's all. — Molly Brown (talk) 09:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- The Unsinkable Molly Brown, there are at least two distinct issues at play here. One is whether this image is acceptable to be hosted on Wikimedia Commons, where it has been nominated for deletion. I think it should be deleted. The other issue is the editorial judgment question of whether it is appropriate for use in this specific list article. I have expressed no opinion about that, and you may well be right on that issue. You probably are. Maybe those other copyrighted mission insignia were hosted here on English Wikipedua instead of Commons, which can be slow to make deletion decisions. I do not know those details. We agree the image should go, just for different reasons. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cullen328: I think we might not be on the same page here. I'm not against using non-free images in articles to illustrate content, it's just that I'm against using this specific non-free image in this specific way, where it doesn't illustrate anything, really. All it does is display the mission patch and nothing more. I've seen numerous copyrighted mission insignia removed from wikitables over the years per WP:NFCC#3, so I don't see why this is such a special exception. — Molly Brown (talk) 03:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- The Unsinkable Molly Brown, fair use (non-free) images are never allowed on Wikimedia Commons, so that image will need to be removed there unless it can be shown to be public domain. WP:NFCI is the link to the policy language regarding uploads and use of non-free images locally on English Wikipedia. The policy is enforced strictly. As an aside, I reacted a bit negatively to your use of the word "decorate" which to me implies a bias against images. I think "illustrate" is a better and more neutral term, and it is a good thing to illustrate our articles (including list articles) with relevant, properly licensed images. Just my personal reaction. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Help with signatures
How do I make a custom signature? Because I want to create one of my own. 1989ChevyVan (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @1989ChevyVan: Check out WP:CUSTOMSIG. Cran32 (talk | contributions) 14:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC).
- And use Snook's contrast checker to make sure you're not making life harder for people with sight problems. - X201 (talk) 15:02, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cran32: Ok does this work? 1989ChevyVan (talk) 15:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see anything :/. Try going to your preferences page (top right), and entering what you're trying to do in the signature box. Cran32 (talk | contributions) 15:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @1989ChevyVan: Welcome to the Teahouse. Did you checkmark the box underneath your custom sig that says "Treat the above as wiki markup"? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:11, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tenryuu: Ok. How about now? 1989ChevyVan (talk | contribs) 16:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @1989ChevyVan: Nope, not seeing any difference. What is it supposed to look like? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:48, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, it has contrib's now. Pelagic ( messages ) – (05:14 Sun 30, AEST) 19:14, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tenryuu: Ok. How about now? 1989ChevyVan (talk | contribs) 16:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cran32: Ok does this work? 1989ChevyVan (talk) 15:04, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
How to have a page added for our museum?
How do I add a page for the Children's Museum of Montana? I wrote this below and although the museum deserves a much better page, I am not tech savvy enough in Wiki to do that. Can you help me get this page posted so that our museum is properly available?
Children's Museum of Montana, Inc.
https://www.childrensmuseumofmontana.org/ <copyright violation removed> Montana Gus (talk) 22:20, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Montana Gus. I know you did this without realizing it was a problem, but please do not post the copyrighted content from the museum's website anywhere on Wikipedia again. I have deleted this content from here (and have had to hide the page history), and deleted your userpage with this content for the same copyright-based reason and for another reason (that's not what your userpage is for; see here for what generally can go there, and here for what generally cannot). I'll leave a note on your talk page providing more information about the copyright issue. I'll let others respond to your actual question above. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- First, Wikipedia has articles, not pages. That is not a nuance. Pages might be thought as 'owned' by the creator, but once an article is created, anyone can edit it. Second, as you now know, no using copyright protected content. Third, the organization's website can only be used for simple fact, and does not contribute to notability. For what you created in your Sandbox, to become a submitted draft, and with a Reviewer's approval, an article, requires referencing to what people independent of CMM to has published ABOUT CMM. Seee WP:YFA. David notMD (talk) 03:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Montana Gus, and welcome to the Teahouse. It might help to understand that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 15:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Adding photos to an existing Wikipedia page
Courtesy link: Intertype Corporation
The Wikipedia "Intertype Corporation" page has a couple of photos. I have 16 photos I took during 1966 while on a tour of the Intertype manufacturing facility in Brooklyn, N.Y. Would any of them be appropriate (and worthy) for use on the aforementioned Wiki page? I would donate them freely. If not on the page, perhaps in the Reference section at the bottom of the page? Here is a link to my photos, including a description: https://coutant.com/intertype/ Thank you. Stan Coutant Cmfwyp Vbgkqj (talk) 22:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cmfwyp Vbgkqj, you can surely add photos there. You might also find reading WP:IMAGES helpful. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 03:35, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cool photos. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 09:57, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
1000th edit
I did notget a notification for my 1000th edit. I am currently at at 1014 edits after this. Does it take time for the notification. I'd like to know my thousandth edit for historical reasons. Thank you in advance! Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 01:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- According to [1] you have 1014 edit but 29 are deleted, so you are only at 985 towards your 1000 milestone. I suspect that if you make a few more edits, you will get that notification. Also, beware of WP:EDITCOUNTITIS. Focus on quality, not quantity. RudolfRed (talk) 02:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Gandalf the Groovy: It's not about deleted edits. Moves can count as one or two edits. You have 34 moves. You didn't say where you saw 1014 edits but your Special:Preferences probably says 980. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:22, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok thanks, I don't care about edit count. I just want to track a milestone. Thank you. Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 12:11, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
It's love for anti-vandalism template!
Likely for anti-vandalism! can see it! It's rose gold! Q? 03:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @RoseGold1250: Your link is broken. What are you trying to show? RudolfRed (talk) 03:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, did you mean to link this? max20characters 🇺🇸 17:30, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Bare references
Can someone explain me about bare references. I am not familiar with the technical terms given in those explanation. I would be glad if someone explain it in a simple language. Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 06:55, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla: Hello and Welcome to the Teahouse. On Wikipedia, Bare references almost alway refers to citations of web content that give only the URL and nothing else. See Wikipedia:Bare URLs for examples. If you find such examples, you can use refill on it. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 07:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Deletion to article
I refer to article People educated at North Sydney Boys High School. Many persons have contributed over the years to a long list with proper substantive references. But recently the article was "prune to include only those with a separate article on themselves. This resulted in some deletions of notables worthy of articles in their own right but presently none exist. As the mass deletion was not reversed by a supervising editor, does this mean such a mass deletion is acceptable? When I clicked undo, that operation is prevented by subsequent alterations. Reversal only possible manually – a very laborious task made unattractive by possibility of same end result. Your comments would be helpful. Saki0710 (talk) 09:28, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Saki0710. We don't have an article on People educated at North Sydney Boys High School. Do you mean List of Old Boys of Sydney Boys High School? I don't see that any have been "mass deleted" recently, but if they were it was probably in persuance of Wikipedia's policy WP:ALUMNI, which please read. By all means create the articles for any additional people, and then add them to the list.--Shantavira|feed me 10:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Your "recently" was misleading. There was a significant removal of names in 2015. The reasoning was valid then and valid now - alumni are listable if an article about them exists. There can be exceptions. In the list in question, a ref confirms that some became Rhodes Scholars, so names listed despite no articles. David notMD (talk) 10:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Sorry I made a major error in my posting! Article title should have read List of Old Falconians for which there was a mass deletion/pruning on 9 March 2021. The article in its previous form was subject to scrutiny by a number of supervising editors over the years (I know because they contacted me) but suddenly runs foul of one. That is disheartening as years of work disappears. And since I posted another name Peterson has been deleted with reason unreferenced. How can that be valid when the link is clearly made to a separate subject article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saki0710 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Courtesy link: List of Old Falconians, diff. Probably different school, but similar policies may apply Personuser (talk) 00:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
I may have recreated something
When I was looking at the pages for Karl Marx a message popped up saying I had recreated something. I believe this is the spot https://ia803105.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/35/items/thelifeandteachi37290gut/37290-8.zip&file=37290-8.txt . As this is the only link in my history that I don't recognize. If I broke it I am very sorry but as soon as that message popped up I spawned another window and closed that one out so I didn't hit anymore things. Thank you for your time. And I really an sorry if I broke it.
John Leonard Ames OT SIGN with tildes, and DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --> Johnames85 (talk) 09:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Johnames85 That is not a Wikipedia link, so cannot comment. Wikipedia is very resilient and you cannot easily do permanent damage, though some people try... Probably nothing to worry about. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 10:14, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Should I separate articles?
I have recently begun on an edit for the Realme 7 phone and was wondering whether to separate the realme 7 from the realme 7 Pro as the two phones have many differences but I'm not sure if there are enough to justify creating another article just for the Pro. Though currently I am leaning more towards 'yes' as the 5G model of the phone has not been included. ArcticFox037 (talk) 09:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- ArcticFox037 The easy thing to do is to expand the existing article, then there's no big risk of having to prove notability. Create a redirect from Realme 7 Pro to the relevant section. If it gets big enough, the article later can be split easily enough. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 10:08, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you Teahouse I feel on top of the moon
My first draft has just been approved and moved to articles space. I feel over the moon and can't wait to get my next drafts published. Thanks to the Teahouse and droves of editors who patiently respond to my apt and often overbearing pester. 1 done, 999 more to go. sleeves up and ready. Thanks guys. Bibihans (talk) 10:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)Bibihans
- Bibihans Be aware that there is a delay of as much as 90 days before Wikipedia articles will be 'seen' by search engines such as Google. David notMD (talk) 10:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @David notMD: Thank you for always. Well noted. Bibihans
- Bibihans, well done! Considering that this article was published today, you can read the rules of WP:DYK and have it appear on the front page under the "Did you know..." section, which should be very well achievable. If you are super ambitious, you can learn about and take your article to WP:Good article, or even WP:Featured article and have it appear at "Today's featured article" someday... Panini!🥪 13:36, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Panini: Well noted. I will give that a shot. Bibihans
How to eliminate an italicized font in an article title?
Does someone know how to get rid of itallic font in an article title? This article—SpaceX fairing recovery program—came about as a move from an article that was at one time just about one particular ship, and ship names are apparently often italicized in titles. The itallics seem to have been retained after the move, and I can't figure out how to get eliminate them. Thanks. N2e (talk) 11:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC) N2e (talk) 11:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- The method is explained at Template:Infobox ship begin. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'll take a look at that. N2e (talk) 12:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Got it fixed! Thanks to David Biddulph for offering the benefit of his expertise and research! N2e (talk) 15:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I'll take a look at that. N2e (talk) 12:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
How to add an external site which is a community based blog ?
Beingmediahopper (talk) 12:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Could you be more specific? Are you talking about dogwithblog.in
? In general, blog sites rarely meet Wikipedia definition of reliable sources and therefore citing them is typically discouraged. Please note that your past contributions were reverted, so I recommend asking users who reverted your edits. If you like, I can look into this further and explain why your edits were reverted and provide recommendations how to change your editing strategy. Anton.bersh (talk) 13:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, I wrote the last message before reading diffs of your contributions (reverted by other people before you posted your question here). Now, when I have read them, I had to revert to your only other non-reverted contribution. That contribution was just adding an external link to "Article on Why Indian Pariah Dog are Best For indian Home". This is problematic for multiple reasons:
- This source is biased and therefore violates WP:POV. It's fine to like one kind of pet over the other ("cats vs. dogs") or breed of dog over another (like in the article), but such preferences present a biased point of view not appreciated on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is about factual unbiased content.
- Your contributions just add "External links" which are not used in the article body. These links add very little value to the reader of the article.
- Your contributions seem to just promote the blog and Wikipedia editors dislike such SEO practices.
- Anton.bersh (talk) 13:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, Anton.bersh, it's not true that sources have to be unbiased: see WP:POVS. This doesn't affect your other points, though. --ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @ColinFine: Thanks for clarification. I should have said that Wikipedia should contain an unbiased representation of factual content. That is, the Wikipedia writer should not bring in own bias into the article and instead represent a fair sample of information presented in reliable sources. Anton.bersh (talk) 22:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, Anton.bersh, it's not true that sources have to be unbiased: see WP:POVS. This doesn't affect your other points, though. --ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Conses from editors, especially Indians.
Why is my Draft not considered notable? I have discussed why it should be included on Wikipedia in the above link. Tawianomlet (talk) 12:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Tawianomlet! Please continue to discuss this at the link you provided above rather than trying to start a new discussion on it here. Thanks! Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 13:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
@123sarangi:, @991joseph:, @Ab207, Askags, Arajc, Aashay114, Ab aditya, Abdars, Abhisheks 91, Adiagr, Aj Ajay Mehta 007, Ajeeshkumar4u, AKS.9955, AKS2000, Ali banu sistani, AkshayAnand, Aman.kumar.goel, Amartyabag, Ambarish, Amkgp, Amuk, AnM2002, Ankit2299, Anoopkn, AnotherEditor144, Anupam, Anwaraj, Archiedesai, Arunbandana, AryamanA, AshLin, Jupitus Smart, Atul32, Atultherajput, Av9, Arimaboss, ArnabSaha, AshokChakra, AbhiMukh97, Anupamdutta73, Abhinav, Archana Mathur, Atlantis77177, Anandkappor45, Balablitz, Banksboomer, BengaliHindu, Bentogoa, Berlindian, Bharathiya, Bishwa 777, and Bmmanjesh:
@Bsoyka: Okay. I need Indian editors to have a look too.
Courtesy: Draft:Prince Pipes and Fittings Limited. The draft has been Rejected, and then nominated for Speedy deletion. The place for contesting the SD is on the Talk page of the draft. Comments can also be made at the Help Desk, i.e., rather than here. David notMD (talk) 15:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tawianomlet Wikipedia strongly frowns on consensus shopping. David notMD (talk) 15:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
This is old. David notMD Tawianomlet (talk) 15:17, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- How is it old? All here dated 28 May 2021. David notMD (talk) 17:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Redwarn and twinkle
Hello, I was learning about the basic things in wikipedia and I came across redwarn and twinkle. It is shown that redwarn will give us rollback options. Then why are we having a seperate user rights called rollbacker? Is both the same? Can we use both twinkle and redwarn together? My final question; Is bad faith edit and vandalism the same things? Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 12:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla! There are two main ways to rollback edits here: directly through Wikipedia functionality (which requires the rollbacker right) and through software such as Twinkle and RedWarn, which have their own way of doing things that doesn't require the default Wikipedia functionality. They do mostly the same thing but work differently internally.
- To answer your other question, no. Sometimes, a bad faith edit isn't necessarily vandalism – it just means they had bad intentions. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 13:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response. Why did I get the notification about your response Bsoyka? Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla: You may want to see WP:NOTIFICATION, which explains the pinging system. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response. Why did I get the notification about your response Bsoyka? Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 13:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
someone has created a wiki page on me. It had information which was deleted by wiki later claiming they could not verify it. How can I supply the verification?
2A02:A458:D1AA:1:9C64:C460:E788:B095 (talk) 12:59, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, IP user! Put simply, you can't as you have a conflict of interest and all information needs to come from reliable sources. Bsoyka (talk · contribs) 13:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- There is a path. As the subject of an article (Wikipedia does not call them pages), you should not attempt to edit the article. Instead, you can go to the Talk page of the article, start a new section (see top menu bar), and in that section provide text WITH REFERENCES for the changes you propose for the article. A non-connected editor will review and either do it or reject it, based on quality of references. References cannot be your website or a published interview. What's needed is what someone not connected to you has written about you. David notMD (talk) 15:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Blacklisted sites
Hi, I have been trying to work on the Debate article seeing as it is quite big and needs a lot of work. While things have been going well, but, the article was extremely lacking in sources, and thus I have been working on flushing that out. However, one of my sources "idebate", got flagged because of a blocked site called "bidebate". Obviously, they are not the same site, but the system is still flagging it. Any solutions? Thanks for the help! Willthehelpfuleditor (talk) 13:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Willthehelpfuleditor, and welcome to the Teahouse. You can request it be unblocked at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. --ColinFine (talk) 16:06, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note that it is idebate.org which is blacklisted. The entry says
\bidebate\.org\b
where\b
means word boundary. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note that it is idebate.org which is blacklisted. The entry says
Got it, I'll just find another source (I didn't realize the \b), if it is blacklisted, I am sure there is a good reason. Thanks for the help Willthehelpfuleditor (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Publishing page - am i in the queue?
Courtesy link: Draft:MAXIS Global Benefits Network
Hello, I am in the process of trying to publish the above page. I am unsure if i have taken the correct steps to get my page published? I understand there is a wait before the page gets approved and published, however I just wanted to make sure i was actually in the 'que' and not just waiting in the wrong area? Is there a way to check this please Lewisruffle (talk) 13:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Lewisruffle: Welcome to the Teahouse. It doesn't look like the draft has been submitted. You'd need to click the Submit the draft for review! button, but I don't see it being accepted the way it is right now as it is overly promotional. Wikipedia doesn't do ad copy. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Advertisement?
A user added this link to articles to make it look like a source. However, it looks like an advertisement for glasses. Do you think so? Seahawks4LifeTALK—CONTRIBS 13:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
I am no expert or veteran editor, but I know an ad when I see one. Yes, I will second that that is most definitely an ad. Willthehelpfuleditor (talk) 13:43, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Seahawks4Life, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, thank you for bringing this to our notice, yes, you are correct and that appears to be spam, an act we do not tolerate in this collaborative project. Once again thanks for bringing this to our notice. Celestina007 (talk) 14:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- No problem. Seahawks4LifeTALK—CONTRIBS 14:35, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Help adding captions
I was on the Folsom Prison Blues page and I was trying to add captions to the audio, and I (think) did everything I was supposed to do, but they aren't there. Did I do something wrong? ThatsW1cked (talk) 14:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi ThatsW1cked, welcome to the Teahouse. You edited the field for minutes instead of seconds in TimedText:Johnny Cash - Fulsom Prison Blues (Live).ogg.en.srt. I have fixed it.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:48, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help PrimeHunter!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThatsW1cked (talk • contribs) 14:57, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Help to improve a new page: Draft:Naufer Moulavi
Hello, I have created a new page. Please contribute to it if you can. Thank you! Tawianomlet (talk) 15:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
@Theroadislong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Sri_Lanka_Easter_bombings was a huge event. Its damages/killings were more than Mumbai attacks 2008. The man behind the Mumbai Attacks, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajmal_Kasab and Naufer Moulavi are equally notable (not famous), if not more or less. :) I read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ONEEVENT, it says in its 2nd Paragraph "If the event is highly significant, and the individual's role within it is a large one, a separate article is generally appropriate."Tawianomlet (talk) 16:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, it was just for information purposes you asked for contributions, please assume good faith. Theroadislong (talk) 16:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Is there any Wikipedia article that explains notability itself?
In my view, i noticed that sometimes being notable does not necessarily need a lot of publications from either secondary or primary sources, it is perhaps what the person writting an article about did. Does this mean that if a person has ample of publications with full coverage from independent sources but he or she did nothing is not notable base on Wikipedia notability? Arnt9099 (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Arnt9099, and welcome to the Teahouse. Often, to find out information about a concept as used in Wikipedia, you can search for the word with
Wikipedia:
(orWP:
) in front ot it. So WP:Notability will tell you all about the concept of notability as used by Wikipedia (which does not quite correspond to its normal meaning). --ColinFine (talk) 16:12, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Is there any simple way to upload a picture on Wikipedia Common without using a web browser?
I visited Wikipedia common some weeks ago and noticed that there were some difficulties concerning uploading an image as a new user. Is there any guide for that? Arnt9099 (talk) 16:14, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Arnt9099: Have you used the upload Wizard? Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also, please be more specific. We need to know your specific problem in order to help you, i.e. the specific error messages, where exactly you don't know what you should check etc. If you have questions regarding image copyright, try asking at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions or c:Commons:Village_pump/Copyright, which is where the experts for that are. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Arnt9099. I'm guessing you must mean "through the Wikipedia App" - as far as I know, the answer is no: I don't believe there is any way of accessing Commons except through a Web browser. --ColinFine (talk) 17:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Signature
Hello. On my signature, I had to make each color of my name a different link, but is there a way to just have my whole name as one link? max20characters 🇺🇸 17:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi max20characters. I don't know why you think you had to do that. You can just remove the extra link code: max20characters 🇺🇸. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- You can also slightly shorten your signature by moving out the bold markup and removing some whitespaces:
'''[[User:Max20characters|<span style="color:blue">max</span><span style="color:red">20</span><span style="color:blue">characters</span>]]''' [[User talk:Max20characters|🇺🇸]]
. Kleinpecan (talk) 17:47, 28 May 2021 (UTC) - Thank you! I did it because the wikitext stuff was kind of confusing for me at the time, so I was just putting my own things onto the texts from WP:SIGTUT. max20characters 🇺🇸 17:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- You can also slightly shorten your signature by moving out the bold markup and removing some whitespaces:
Twinkle Option Not Available
Hi all, Why there is no TWINKLE option in the Gadgets section of my Preferences? Can anyone help me with this. Ali Talvar (talk) 17:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Ali Talvar: Your account needs to be autoconfirmed before Twinkle is available. That will happen automatically, usually after your account is at least 4 days old and you have at least 10 edits. It looks like your account is not quite old enough yet. RudolfRed (talk) 17:31, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @RudolfRed: Thank you so much, and Yes I am a newbie here.
Article rating
Hello. I've expanded Rosa - A Horse Drama. If everything is OK I think it can be uprated. How do I request that or is simply sit back and wait? I've left a note on the Opera project page to same effect. Thanks. Thelisteninghand (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Thelisteninghand. Two of the references are bare URLs. I would expand those to full references before thinking about uprating the article. There is also a typographical error in the final reference. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:09, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi and thanks. I fixed those problems. The article is now rated C-class which makes me very happy. Tea all round. Thelisteninghand (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Aviation, legalities vs realities vs advertising copy and how to correct blatant errors.
I have been involved in aviation for over 50 years. A major problem -- as I see it -- is that people writing on Wikipedia conflate the "real" with the "legal" with the "BS salesmen spread." The is much confusion between the general and specific as well.
My interest in this is to weed out the BS.
I can go to the US Federal Resister and cite the enabling legislation that allowed the US Department of Commerce to become involved in aviation (1928) this eventually became the CAB (Civil Aeronautics Board). I can cite the enabling legislation that created the CAA (Civil Aeronautics Administration) in 1938, and the legislation that combined the two creating the FAA in 1958.
Time machines do not exist, so an agency created in 1958 could not enact anything before it was created. I can cite US FAR (Federal Aviation Regulation) 103 denying the FAA any legal authority over certain vehicles (not legally aircraft by law) basically those under 254 pounds light weight and I can cite FAR 61 and 91 defining light weight.
I can cite the US Constitution that states that Congress can create no ex-post facto laws and cite it again where it says that the Executive branch (as in CAB, CAA and FAA) enforces the law (that the Legislative branch enacts)...
BUT "JANES" IS A BETTER SOURCE? REALLY? ON WHAT PLANET?
Sadly, people are grossly uneducated, they think we live in a dictatorship where the President says jump and we say "how high?" Where it has always been as it is now and where the Channel 10 news gives accurate assessments. Please, I beg, don't make this situation worse. The truth maters. Piper PA25235C (talk) 17:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Piper PA25235C, and welcome to the Teahouse! Looking at your edits, most of them seem to be unsourced and contain opinionated language. In the warn that Jusdafax gave you, they cite the same issue with your edits. While I do believe you made those edits, all content on Wikipedia must be verifiable with credible sources. Any content also must be from a neutral point of view, which your edits were sadly not. Hope this helps. --Aknell4 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Piper PA25235C: Some of your edits at Heath_Parasol referred to documents in your posession that are not published and verifiable. This is not allowed. Sources do not have to be online, but they do need to be published in reliable sources. The place to discuss your edits and the revert is at Talk:Heath_Parasol. RudolfRed (talk) 17:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- No first person, no opinion, no original research, no describing your Health Parasol. As Jusdafax wrote in the revert edit summary (and on own Talk page, in reply to your query), write in encyclopedia style, and only include what can be verified by published references. Yes, the truth matters, but only with verification. David notMD (talk) 18:01, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Piper PA25235C:, Janes Information Services is widely considered a reliable source for aviation topics but no source is perfect and all make occasional errors. If you want to challenge its reliability in a specific context, discuss the matter at the Reliable sources noticeboard. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:21, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- No first person, no opinion, no original research, no describing your Health Parasol. As Jusdafax wrote in the revert edit summary (and on own Talk page, in reply to your query), write in encyclopedia style, and only include what can be verified by published references. Yes, the truth matters, but only with verification. David notMD (talk) 18:01, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Can I create a page about Lakshadweep Reforms?
Hello, I want to create a page about Lakshadweep Reforms. It is an event taking place in India. It has gathered national media attention on a big scale. Many protests are also conducted. Let me know if I should go ahead. Tawianomlet (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Tawianomlet. I am not going to answer your question directly, because I have no interest in doing the relevant research. The general answer is, if you can find appropriate sources that establish notability, then you are welcome to go ahead, but if you can't you will probably be wasting any further time you put into the project. As to whether you should go ahead, that is up to you. You might ask at WT:INDIA whether anybody there is interested in working with you. --ColinFine (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tawianomlet: You can see the guidance at Wikipedia:Notability_(events). If you find the event is notable, then follow the steps at WP:YFA to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 18:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Okays. I will create a Draft because it does seem to qualify. Tawianomlet (talk) 18:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tawianomlet: Before you get too far into it, be aware that the subject is already covered at Praful Khoda Patel#2021 Lakshadweep policies. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:57, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
what qualifys as not vandalism
Hlghkfsga (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hlghkfsga see WP:NOTV TigerScientist Chat > contribs 18:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hlghkfsga: See Wikipedia:Vandalism. Malicious edits are vandalism. Good faith edits, even if they go against policy are not. RudolfRed (talk) 18:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hlghkfsga: ALL of your edits have been reverted as vandalism. Cease, or you will be indefinitely blocked as not being here to work on the encyclopedia. All you are doing is wasting other editors' time. David notMD (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Too late. Indef blocked. David notMD (talk) 21:23, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Hlghkfsga: ALL of your edits have been reverted as vandalism. Cease, or you will be indefinitely blocked as not being here to work on the encyclopedia. All you are doing is wasting other editors' time. David notMD (talk) 19:19, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Claims of Bristol being a "Major City"
It seems a lot of anons keep putting the term "major" in the heading of Bristol. But in context there is nothing unique to call it major...It is a county and city and I get that. But just like Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Leeds, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Sheffield and London. The term major is very subjective. The ones listed are much larger then Bristol and to me it seems to be a constant every other edit battle. Only a university and gsce site use major. Other sites don't and Bristol is much smaller in population terms to the cities above which are higher and have borough, unitary authority or county included. I would appreciate your lots input. RailwayJG (talk) 18:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC) RailwayJG (talk) 18:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, RailwayJG. As a Californian, I know very little about Bristol but I see that it has a population of 463,400 which seems major to me. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area which has lots of big cities close to each other, and about eight million people in total. San Jose is the biggest and San Francisco is second biggest. Oakland, California is third at about 430,000 people, and around here, everybody calls Oakland a major city. Because it is. Another factor is that Bristol is the dominant city by far in its region, which Oakland isn't. The next biggest in the Bristol region is Filton, only about a tenth the size of Bristol. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 18:59, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Jim, Filton isn't a city. -Roxy . wooF 19:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I should have said town or suburb, Roxy the dog, but my point stands. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'm just being pedantic, and your point is, um, on point. I'm very english in this regard as even as I approach senility, I cannot grasp the concept of all these teeny tiny places all over the world being called cities. Or is it me? -Roxy . wooF 20:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Roxy the dog, It's not pedantic if it leads to better understanding. In California, we have municipalities which can choose to call themselves cities or towns, and in theory but not practice, they have the same powers, and there are 482 of them, ranging from Los Angeles with nearly four million people to tiny hamlets of a couple hundred residents. Los Angeles County for example, contains 87 other cities in addition to the big one.They all have clearly defined city/town limits, local elected officials, local ordinances and so on. If someone lives outside defined city/town limits, then they live in an "unincorporated area" and local governmental services are provided by the county government instead. I live, for example, in a city of about 20,000 people surrounded by larger cities, and nobody thinks our small city is anything but a city because we have our own elected mayor, city council, fire department, police department, public works department and so on. I understand that things are very different in the UK. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'm just being pedantic, and your point is, um, on point. I'm very english in this regard as even as I approach senility, I cannot grasp the concept of all these teeny tiny places all over the world being called cities. Or is it me? -Roxy . wooF 20:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I should have said town or suburb, Roxy the dog, but my point stands. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Jim, Filton isn't a city. -Roxy . wooF 19:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cullen328:, it is a big city but in terms of population it is 11th largest city but wider known cities like London Manchester Birmingham Liverpool and Newcastle upon Tyne are much larger and rank around millions because of their boroughs counties and regions whereas Bristol is one of a few cities like Gloucester Bath and Wells which are close smaller but close. Populous would work but major city would apply in theory to all the cities ranked higher and not just Bristol alone.
- @RailwayJG: The best place to discuss this is on the article's talk page, where you can discuss it with other editors and get a consensus on it. Don't engage in an edit war. Follow WP:DR if you can't get a consensus via discussion. RudolfRed (talk) 19:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Per Rudolph. Really we should be using sourced expressions and descriptions - and ideally they should be relatively current or eternal. Koncorde (talk) 19:34, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- OK, my 2 euro-cents. The word "city" is used in a completely different way in British English from the American usage. As I understand it, in simple terms, if it is the seat of a bishop, and thus has a cathedral, it's a city; if not, it's a town (or village, hamlet, suburb, whatever). Size has no bearing. Croydon is much larger than Bristol, but doesn't (as far as I'm aware) have a cathedral; it's made a number of unsuccessful attempts to be called a city. It seems to me that arguing over whether or not Bristol is to be described as "major" is pretty pointless – it's major because it's a city, one of a not-very-large number, but for exactly the same reason, there's really no reason to say so. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Justlettersandnumbers, you're right in principle (and I wanted to make the same point) but wrong in detail. City status depends on a royal charter, not on anything ecclesiastical.Bradford was a city without a bishop from 1897 to 1919, Leeds ditto between 1893 and 2014 (unless you count the Roman Catholic Bishop of Leeds, but in that case you'd better count Northampton, Clifton, and Brentwood as cities) - Leeds still hasn't an Anglican cathedral - and Cambridge 1951 to the present. --ColinFine (talk) 21:18, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- OK, my 2 euro-cents. The word "city" is used in a completely different way in British English from the American usage. As I understand it, in simple terms, if it is the seat of a bishop, and thus has a cathedral, it's a city; if not, it's a town (or village, hamlet, suburb, whatever). Size has no bearing. Croydon is much larger than Bristol, but doesn't (as far as I'm aware) have a cathedral; it's made a number of unsuccessful attempts to be called a city. It seems to me that arguing over whether or not Bristol is to be described as "major" is pretty pointless – it's major because it's a city, one of a not-very-large number, but for exactly the same reason, there's really no reason to say so. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:00, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Per Rudolph. Really we should be using sourced expressions and descriptions - and ideally they should be relatively current or eternal. Koncorde (talk) 19:34, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Ramotion Draft Review
Hello, can you help me take a look at this draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ramotion to see if it is ok to be taken live yet. Thanks! AlikotoSam (talk) 20:05, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- AlikotoSam (talk) none of your references appear to be reliable. Reference 10 is directly from Ramotion, and that is not neutral, reference 9 is a blog post, references 4, 5 & 7 have errors, and I couldn't view them. The rest read as though they are advertisements. Some of them are marked as "sponsored post," some state the article is the opinion of the author, and not the opinion of the website.
- I don't know if any reliable publications have ever reviewed Ramotion, or wrote about the agency in any way, so that will need to be your project to find neutral coverage. Best wishes on writing a new draft, sourced with good references. Karenthewriter (talk) 23:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
search for art
how to find an artist's paintings? Search by name does not show artwork20:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)~~ 2601:643:8880:160:9181:5380:4E4D:62BB (talk) 20:13, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi 2601:643:8880:160:9181:5380:4E4D:62BB. This is a help forum for editing, so if you questions like this in the future you should ask at the relevant reference desk. It's hard to find what you're looking for without the name of the artist or painting in-question, but you might have better luck searching at Wikimedia Commons, which is a sister project of Wikipedia. Clovermoss (talk) 01:32, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
searching procedure unknown
How to get instruction for searching? How to search for art by named artists? How even to use this question format. Everything just disappears. Directions say: Sign in with tildes...directions also say DON"T sign in with tildes. HOW TO SEARCH? Where are simple directions? 2601:643:8880:160:9181:5380:4E4D:62BB (talk) 20:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, i'm a rather fresh wikipedian but i think i can help you, if you desire to find a list of works by a certain artist, input 'List of works by [ARTIST NAME]' into the searchbar, but please remember these lists are always being expanded by wikipedians and that we don't have every work by every artist listed here, you can also go to the artists page, scroll down to the bottom and click on the link for related media on the commons, all our images are hosted on a sister site called the Wikimedia Commons.
- Regarding the tildes, they are mostly used on talkpages so people know who you are, in order to sign a talkpage or userpage just write four tildes at the bottom, tildes are not used in the Teahouse on original posts, i should imagine there's some technical reason to it but i do not know exactly myself, you can use them on replies however.
- OGWFP (talk) 20:57, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Why are you trying to search in Wikipedia? Searches in Wikipedia will turn up only material which has been the subject of a Wikipedia article, or mentioned in a Wikipedia article: it's not likely to give you lists of artworks unless either those artworks are individually WP:notable enough for people to have created articles about them, or the artist is notable and somebody has created an article about them. OGWFP is right that if somebody happens to have created a list of works by a particular artist, you can search for that title; but I'd guess that there are only a few thousand of those. What are you trying to achieve? --ColinFine (talk) 22:03, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
search bar useless
2601:643:8880:160:9181:5380:4E4D:62BB (talk) 20:41, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Name an artist you are searching about. David notMD (talk) 21:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
get chat help
Contact chat help. Nothing else works.. it is all "No such page" no matter the question.2601:643:8880:160:9181:5380:4E4D:62BB (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC) 2601:643:8880:160:9181:5380:4E4D:62BB (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, IP. What specifically are you trying to find? —valereee (talk) 21:05, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also, please stop starting a new section every time you come here. Ask follow-up in the same section. Name an artist and an artwork. David notMD (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @David notMD: It looks like you might not have "Strike out usernames that have been blocked" set in your Preferences, as this IP user has recently been blocked for repeatedly asking random and rather disruptive questions all over the shop. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also, please stop starting a new section every time you come here. Ask follow-up in the same section. Name an artist and an artwork. David notMD (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Picture add to Dead Posey wiki page
Hi! I need help adding a picture to Dead Posey wiki page. The picture I tried adding was deleted from the wiki page a month after I added it for some reason??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Posey Help is needed, Thanks! Poewritesthings (talk) 20:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Poewritesthings. The image you uploaded was deleted as a copyright violation, as explained at your Commons talk page c:User Talk:Poewritesthings. In order to add an image to the article, you need to find or create one that is licensed under a suitable free licence such as CC-BY-SA. An image you find on the internet is unlikely to be licensed in that way. Probably you will either have to take one yourself if you can, or find an image and contact the copyright holder (who is usually the photographer, not the subject) and ask them if they will agree to donate it to the world - not just to Wikipedia - by following the procedure in WP:DCM. --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Fujifilm S1730 Digital camera article
Hello, i am working on an article for the following digital camera model:
Fujifilm S1730 Digital Bridge camera
You can view the WIP article by clicking the link above or by manually navigating to my user sandbox.
I am, however, having trouble locating reviews from reputable sources to add the article, so far i have only found the camera model listed on a digital camera database website, i have been unable to find it on Dpreview or any other photography website, it seems this model of camera has dropped off the face of the earth, or more exactly it was a cheap model on sale in the early 2010's for about £200 so it likely didn't garner much attention from 'serious' photographers, the camera is real though, i have one i bought from a charity shop a few years ago, and while it seems very similar in design to other models in the range from the same era i do not want to share specs for obvious reasons (aside from the one picture on my article, which will likely change).
I will appreciate it if you can find any information on this camera from reputable sources, as i said i have only been able to find it listed on a camera database website, other then that it's some passing mentions and the page on Fuji's site is likely long gone by now.
PS: I added the S1730 to the FinePix S-series article for you OGWFP (talk) 20:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- OGWFP, are you aware that every Wikipedia article is entirely based on independent, reliable, published, in-depth sources? This means that your knowledge of this camera may not be used as the basis for your article. If no published sources exist, then, unfortunately, no article is possible.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:39, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- OGWFP, though your explorations wouldn't suit Wikipedia, it may be possible to add them beneficially to Camera-Wiki (which is entirely independent of Wikipedia, but is similar in being noncommercial and using Mediawiki software). -- Hoary (talk) 22:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you everyone for the kind words and help, i do agree that Camera wiki is a better place for articles about specific camera models so i will look into signing up, and i'm guessing that all camera articles on here are models that have been mentioned in published reputable, reliable sources?
- OGWFP (talk) 17:18, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- They are supposed to be, OGWFP, but sometimes inadequately sourced articles sneak in under the radar, or have hung around since Wikipedia's early years when standards were more lax. If you encounter such articles, you are welcome to find and add sources (if you feel inclined to do so) and/or to place an appropriate warning template on the article, and/or to propose the article for deletion. Sometimes, mentioning such an article here or on the Help desk may prompt someone to take similar actions, though it's not the official route, so to speak. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.163.176 (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Becoming a host
Becoming a host I’m thinking about joining y’all here as a host. Before I sign up, I have one question: when I read the notice about pinging other users, it provided a different template than I already use. Is it okay if I were to use the template @INSERT NAME OF USER: when replying to the question? Thanks. 🐍Helen🐍 21:44, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @HelenDegenerate: It's fine; most of them redirect to {{reply to}} anyway. I generally use {{re}} for direct mentions and {{U}} for indirect mentions. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Becoming a host, II
Side question: I recently replied to some questions without being a host. Is that discouraged and do my contributions suggest I may be suited for the role or is it better to wait? I'm not really proud of all of them and should read a bit more about the project and be more consistent with pinging, but having an official role may help me taking the role more seriously. Personuser (talk) 22:28, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Personuser: If you're comfortable about the answer and want to contribute, that's fine - there's no real formal process for becoming a host - you just help out and it happens naturally. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:52, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Personuser. Welcome to the Teahouse. Although it's not a stipulation, I personally think it would be far better if everyone does have a go at answering a range of questions here before they add their name to the list of hosts. I say this without looking at your own contributions, but we do see quite a few people who add themselves as hosts as if it were some badge of honour, but then never contribute here, and simply end up being taken off the list 6 months later for inactivity. Just so long as you're still willing to follow our Host Expectations, and stick to answering stuff you know about, then you or anyone else can help out without needing to sign yourself up or by meeting our quite relaxed minimal requirements. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the replies. Apart from lack of notification to guest (which I can easily fix in the future) and occasionally stepping a bit out of my area of expertise (which I will be hopefully more careful about), I believe I can be helpful. I don't care that much about badges of honour and this is a great place to learn about stuff I don't know about yet, so I'll probably stay around. Personuser (talk) 23:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- I point you to Rule 33 of the Internet:
—Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)Lurk moar. It's never enough.
- I point you to Rule 33 of the Internet:
- Thanks for the replies. Apart from lack of notification to guest (which I can easily fix in the future) and occasionally stepping a bit out of my area of expertise (which I will be hopefully more careful about), I believe I can be helpful. I don't care that much about badges of honour and this is a great place to learn about stuff I don't know about yet, so I'll probably stay around. Personuser (talk) 23:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Personuser: I am nowhere near the most experienced editor but I answer questions I 100% know. Don't answer questions you don't know. TigerScientist Chat > contribs 00:07, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Personuser, as a Teahouse host for quite a few years, I think that what TigerScientist said above is the best advice for aspiring hosts. Do not offer an answer unless you are highly confident that it is accurate. Do thorough research first if you are not sure. If you are still not sure, let another host answer. I have been an editor for 12 years and an administrator for four years, and there are still many aspects of this highly complex project that I do not understand well, so I let other hosts field those questions. Tip: highly technical programming type questions can be referred to Village pump - technical where the hard core computer nerds hang out.
- Also, try your best to respond with a friendly, helpful, welcoming tone except when dealing with obvious trolls, who should be dealt with in a firm and businesslike tone. And ping the person who asked a good faith question, or leave an alert on their talk page. Or both. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Tim Heatley
Hello, does it really take 4+ months to get the Draft reviewed? Spicyramens (talk) 00:40, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Spicyramens and welcome to the Teahouse. The wikiproject that reviews and accepts/declines new articles has a backlog of 4,904. It's really unfortunate that you've had to wait this long, but hopefully you'll get some feedback soon. Clovermoss (talk) 01:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Spicyramens:, this is a great question. There really is no specific timeframe for a draft to be reviewed; Wikipedia receives thousands of drafts every day. It does take time for the editors to sift through them all— sometimes drafts are pure vandalism— so yes, it may take up to six months for your draft to be reviewed. In the meantime, keep working on it. I suggest having a look at WP:FIRST to fill in any gaps, and WP:PCR to help you with expanding it. Hope I’ve been of some help. 😇 🐍Helen🐍 01:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- To be more specific than answered by Clovermoss and HelenDegenerate, the backlog is not a queue. Drafts can be reviewed in days, weeks, or (sadly) months. All depends on what each reviewer chooses to pick next (with some bias toward keeping an eye on the oldest drafts). P.S. I doubt Wikipedia receives thousands of drafts every day. Can anyone put a number on that? David notMD (talk) 01:52, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- What is your connection to Draft:Tim Heatley? It was created in February by an editor suspected of being a paid editor. You submitted it to AfC in April, although you did no prior editing of the draft. David notMD (talk) 02:00, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- I do not know how many are created each day, but most are taken care of in the first hour with quick declines and speedy deletions. Around 30ish enter the backlog, and depending on how carefully a particular draft needs to be considered, it may be reviewed the next day, next week, next month or in sixth months. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Submissions. It between two and three hundred per day, some days a little less. RudolfRed (talk) 04:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- But please be advised that the stats there are simply the number of elements in the AfC date categories (for example Category:AfC submissions by date/29 May 2021) which don't include speedy deleted drafts after the category element count is updated the next time. You have to view the deletion log for that, which shows over 100 draft deletions in the last like 8 hours. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Victor Schmidt: Thank you for that extra information and clarification! RudolfRed (talk) 17:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- But please be advised that the stats there are simply the number of elements in the AfC date categories (for example Category:AfC submissions by date/29 May 2021) which don't include speedy deleted drafts after the category element count is updated the next time. You have to view the deletion log for that, which shows over 100 draft deletions in the last like 8 hours. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Submissions. It between two and three hundred per day, some days a little less. RudolfRed (talk) 04:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- To be more specific than answered by Clovermoss and HelenDegenerate, the backlog is not a queue. Drafts can be reviewed in days, weeks, or (sadly) months. All depends on what each reviewer chooses to pick next (with some bias toward keeping an eye on the oldest drafts). P.S. I doubt Wikipedia receives thousands of drafts every day. Can anyone put a number on that? David notMD (talk) 01:52, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Spicyramens:, this is a great question. There really is no specific timeframe for a draft to be reviewed; Wikipedia receives thousands of drafts every day. It does take time for the editors to sift through them all— sometimes drafts are pure vandalism— so yes, it may take up to six months for your draft to be reviewed. In the meantime, keep working on it. I suggest having a look at WP:FIRST to fill in any gaps, and WP:PCR to help you with expanding it. Hope I’ve been of some help. 😇 🐍Helen🐍 01:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
David notMD Yes, I am connected to Tim Heatley. Do I need to do something about it? Please send the instructions. Spicyramens (talk) 08:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Spicyramens I have placed instructions on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 08:51, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Seeking Editing Advice/Suggestions
Hi There!
I am a student who is new to Wikipedia. One of my courses consists of editing and updating the Geophilus Flavus Wikipedia page, I was wondering if anyone would be able to provide me with some feedback or suggestions to help me improve this page? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Witchruby (talk) 03:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Witchruby: You and your instructor should read Wikipedia:Student_assignments. Make sure any changes you make are backed up by citations to reliable sources. You may want to try the WP:TUTORIAL or learning game at WP:ADVENTURE. RudolfRed (talk) 04:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Witchruby. If you truly want to improve Geophilus flavus, then you need to familiarize yourself with the full range of scientific literature discussing the species, and use your critical reading skills to sort the articles thst devote significant coverage to the species from those that just mention it in passing. Immerse yourself in that significant coverage, and summarize it in the article, giving due weight to contradictory descriptions, adding references to any reliable sources that you have uncovered that are not already in the article. This type of article about a little known species should constitute an authoritative survey of the published academic literature. Your work will then become a great benefit to any future scholar who chooses to study this species in greater depth. Perhaps you. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:00, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Here are three easy ways to improve the Geophilus flavus article:
- Ensure that the name Geophilus flavus is correctly capitalised and italicised wherever it appears in the article.
- Remove "the" from before it, throughout the article.
- Convert the section headers to "sentence case".
- Maproom (talk) 07:08, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, Witchruby, congrats on expanding the article; I think it reads quite well now! Where "Geophilus flavus" is repeated multiple times in a paragraph, you can (but don't have to) abbreviate subsequent mentions as "G. flavus". Pelagic ( messages ) – (10:14 Sun 30, AEST) 00:14, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
About newspaper sources
I declined a draft Draft:Sushil Chandra Roy Chowdhury because it only cited newspaper sources with zero other online sources. The way these references are written is also very vague from what I see and I couldn't accept and agree on those just in good faith. What if these are just randomly written and the alleged print sources don't exist! But what if the creator has these newspaper images; they are pretty old so I doubt that they have it but the creator has claimed so on my talk page. I can't ask them to upload it on commons since they won't own copyrights of it I guess. What do in such a case? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 03:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Nomadicghumakkad: Sources do not need to be online. If you doubt the veracity of an offline source, you can ask at WP:RX for someone to check on it. If I misunderstood your question, please clarify. RudolfRed (talk) 03:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Indeed, Nomadicghumakkad, sources don't need to be online. But there are some problems here. I notice that:
- his "Auto Switch" is mentioned as something other than his "Automatic Time Switch" but goes undescribed
- he's described as having employed the government of India [not vice versa?]
- he's described as a "genius"
- each of the references is extraordinarily vague [title of article? page number(s)?]
- nothing in the article is attributed to any of these references in particular
- he's described as "forgotten" [except, perhaps, among his descendants?]
- the biographee and the biographer share the same surname
- -- Hoary (talk) 05:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello Hoary, There is a clear WP:COI. My assumption is that he is from the same family line. And apart from that the article has all sorts of other problems like you have highlighted. My question is:
- If someone cites a printed source and give title, name of newspaper, date etc but provides otherwise no evidence that this source existed; do we accept that in good faith and not doubt it?
- What if the creator is claiming that he has newspaper clips/images of the said source, can he upload those on commons or somewhere? I think this one has already done it. See here [3].
Please guide. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 07:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Teahouse notifications
Hi. Is there a way I can get notification when someone answers my question at teahouse. If someone uses {{U|Vhhhhjhgy}} then I get a notification else no notification is received. Vhhhhjhgy (talk) 04:39, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Vhhhhjhgy. Unless someone pings you, you cannot get a specific notification. But you can add the Teahouse to your watchlist. You can then see the most recent edit to the Teahouse whenever you take a look at your list. That may or may not be in response to your comment, but it facilitates checking. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Vhhhhjhgy: Welcome to the Teahouse. It is easy to occasionally forget to 'ping' someone so that they are notified of a reply - and many people try to answer questions here without realising this is immensely helpful to a newcomer. But those of us who have signed up as 'Hosts' should know to welcome every editor and especially to WP:PING them in their reply. If they forget to do that, these hosts can also install a special 'Talkback' tool which quickly leaves a note on the talk page of the original poster. I will do that now for you to demonstrate. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Request For Feedback
Not sure if this is the right forum for this, but I have been improving the article on the Val sans retour over the past few moths for a university course and would love some feedback, specifically to see if the article can be upgraded to a C or B-class, and if not, where it would require further improvement. I'm not sure where to reach out to for this kind of feedback. Thank you! Antknight (talk) 04:44, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's unclear to me what the article is meant to be about: a specific valley in Morbihan, or the subject of Arthurian legend. Anyway, section headers should be in sentence case. Maproom (talk) 07:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Installing redwarn
Hello. I was about to install redwarn. Then a message displaying Code that you insert on this page could contain malicious content capable of compromising your account.. Is there any problem if I install this. Does this show up for all users? Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 05:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla, yes, it shows for everyone, it is warning you that code can be malicious and prevent you from editing. RedWarn is safe to install. Enjoy your stay at Wikipedia and welcome to the teahouse. Heart (talk) 06:08, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot HeartGlow30797. Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla (talk) 06:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
When is a subject considered to be qualified for an article
Hi all, My first week on Wikipedia. Advanced apologies if the following question has been asked and answered before: An article I submited got rejected because the references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. I disagree, because there is significant coverage about the subject on reliable and independent publications. I read through the guidelines, and to me it seems the references are quite solid.
What could I be doing better? Would adding more references help? Please guide me to any helpful articles/guides.
Thanks in advance. Aalapvyas (talk) 06:03, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- My assessment of your sources (guide):
- https://www.afaqs.com/news/media/30446_defining-moments-g-krishnan-looking-in-the-mirror is useless for notability (connexion to subject). The article is written in the first-person and every indication is that Krishnan wrote or at least dictated it.
- https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/former-tv-today-ceo-g-krishnan-to-strike-out-on-his-own-112061400011_1.html is okay.
- https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/tv-today-ceo-g-krishnan-quits-111090200059_1.html is useless for notability (unknown provenance). Who exactly wrote this?
- https://www.rukmanitrust.org/about-us/ is useless for notability (connexion to subject). It's the About Us page for an organisation he sits on the board of.
- https://www.adgully.com/g-krishnan-bids-adieu-to-tv-today-network-47618.html is useless for notability (unknown provenance) and is made redundant by the Business Standard source.
- https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/aaj-tak-rules-telly-awards-62125-2009-12-02 is borderline. Are there no better sources that cover this?
- Your sources are not as unimpeachable as you think. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:25, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- "Would adding more references help?" No. The problem isn't the number of references, it's their quality, as Jéské has pointed out. You need better references, not more references. Maproom (talk) 07:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- A distinction - your draft was Declined, not Rejected. The latter is a harsher evaluation of the potential for the draft to succeed. David notMD (talk) 11:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- "Would adding more references help?" No. The problem isn't the number of references, it's their quality, as Jéské has pointed out. You need better references, not more references. Maproom (talk) 07:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Page Protection
I need help getting a page protected that is being vandalized as I am typing this non-stop by trolls. Can someone guide me? Page is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_L._Bissell_Jr. Cha20raca (talk) 07:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Cha20raca. It looks to me like you are edit warring to add somebody's aunt's name as a relative of someone involved with a crime. Am I right? If so, please read the policy on biographies of living people, which forbids that type of edit. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:43, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi and thank you so much for responding to me. The person who is causing the issues is using three different names. She is not a relative of a criminal, factually she is the niece of the woman who is pertinent to the wikipedia on Nicholas Bissell, Jr. I appreciate so much your help. Cha20raca (talk) 07:47, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Irrelevant. Cite a source that verifies this or cease adding it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- I am not the one who wrote irrelevant. This person is the troll that is vandalizing the page. Is there away to temporarily lock the page? Cha20raca (talk) 07:51, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- You're the one adding unsourced claims about living people. 3RR does not apply to removing obvious BLP-violating content, so technically you are the one edit-warring to include material that should be removed on sight. You are the one in the wrong. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:53, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- I am not the one who wrote irrelevant. This person is the troll that is vandalizing the page. Is there away to temporarily lock the page? Cha20raca (talk) 07:51, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Irrelevant. Cite a source that verifies this or cease adding it. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 07:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi and thank you so much for responding to me. The person who is causing the issues is using three different names. She is not a relative of a criminal, factually she is the niece of the woman who is pertinent to the wikipedia on Nicholas Bissell, Jr. I appreciate so much your help. Cha20raca (talk) 07:47, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Article is short-term locked. Editors have been warned about edit-warring. David notMD (talk) 12:17, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cha20raca All mention of Brenda Wolf removed from the article. Please do not put any of that back. There is a warning on your Talk page. That one case has nothing to do with why there is an article about Bissell. David notMD (talk) 22:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
why my article is not published?
i have confirmed all the informations but still my article is not published please publish my article. Bhugrii321 (talk) 08:43, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Bhugrii321 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please review the note left by the reviewer. You may also want to read Your First Article; writing a new article is the hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. You may also want to use the new user tutorial, and review this guide to citing sources. 331dot (talk) 08:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Bhugrii321, your Draft:Sathou was declined, once. The reviewer gave a reason. Since that time you haven't made any change to the draft. I don't understand why the draft should be reconsidered, if it hasn't been improved since it was declined. Have you even read what Nearlyevil665 wrote? And there are plenty of problems with it that Nearlyevil665 didn't mention. (One point: What do you mean by "[45]", "[135]", etc.? Another: Am I just imagining this, but is the content written by more than one person? [Are quotation marks perhaps needed?]) -- Hoary (talk) 08:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Seperate content subsection
In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_psychology , there is, apart from the template to show the sections of the article, a section containing the different sections of the article. I don't think this is the standard for articles, should the section "contents" be deleted? CrashKnight04 (talk) 09:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi CrashKnight04. Yes this should be removed. It seem this was added when a new user, who had pasted content from the draft into a sandbox to make good faith improvements, created this section manually by copying the article text rather than its underlying code. (The sandbox copying was also a [clearly unwitting] copyright violation, which I will handle). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:16, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Bobby Joe Long
There is an inappropriate link (10 petrifying facts...) at the end ?porn who removes it? 146.70.30.197 (talk) 12:06, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Removed. You could have done it yourself by clicking on Edit and deleting the content. David notMD (talk) 12:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Offensive name
Offensive name Ivanpat (talk) 12:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC) Good day I wish to report an issue that has potential to be offensive. The reference is;
Citrus hystrix, called the kaffir lime, makrut lime, Thai lime or Mauritius papeda, is a citrus fruit native to tropical Southeast Asia and southern China. Its fruit and leaves are used in Southeast Asian cuisine and its essential oil is used in perfumery. Its rind and crushed leaves emit an intense citrus fragrance. Wikipedia
The word kaffir is offfensive in the Southern African context and is in fact banned. One can Report a person using it and the offender can be sentenced to jail or a fine. Your own definition define it as a racial term:
Kaffir (racial term) - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Kaffir_(racial_term) Post-apartheid South Africa — Kaffir is a term used to refer to black Africans in South Africa. In the form of cafri, it evolved during the pre-colonial...
Could it please be removed from its reference to makrut (Asian lime) and Wikipedia be discouraged from using it
- Kaffir lime is a widely used term, and so Wikipedia should include it in the article, even if it may be offensive to some readers. See also: Wikipedia is not censored. Kleinpecan (talk) 12:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- The article is Kaffir lime. Within it, the origin is described and mention is made that because of the offensive meaning of "kaffir," makrut line or Thai lime is also used. David notMD (talk) 16:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Articles for deletion
From archive 1108: "Because unregistered editors cannot create pages in the Wikipedia namespace, they cannot nominate articles for deletion". I don't see how this is a "because" scenario. "Because my car is red, I can't have pancakes today". Can someone please explain that deletion thing? Not the car thing, but mmmm, pancakes. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 12:21, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion requires creation of a nomination page in the Wikipedia namespace. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#How to nominate a single page for deletion says how unregistered users can request it so it's a little inaccurate to say they cannot nominate articles for deletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Gallery
Hello, I came across the gallery section in Ini Dima-Okojie and noted that it was quite lengthy. I know wikipedia is not a repository of images so I want to know if anything should be done about this.TheSokks(talk) 13:35, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- All these images were added very recently by Dynacorp. Assuming that they were indeed taken by that editor (as the Commons licensing information asserts) I think that the more normal process would be to assign them all to a Commons category, which hasn't been done, and then add that category information plus perhaps a couple of the actual photographs to the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:48, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Some at least of these images look like album or magazine covers, so may well be copyright violations. Dynacorp needs to respond quickly about this, so I'll leave a message on their Talk page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Another editor has now reverted all these recent changes to the article, assuming they were WP:COPYVIO. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull I also suspected COPYVIO was at play. Thank you for your time. TheSokks(talk) 13:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Another editor has now reverted all these recent changes to the article, assuming they were WP:COPYVIO. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Some at least of these images look like album or magazine covers, so may well be copyright violations. Dynacorp needs to respond quickly about this, so I'll leave a message on their Talk page. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Note: All of the images have been mass deleted at the Commons.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:07, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Image
There is an image used in an article that presents information without sources, is this image, in which most of the countries in green under the label "Countries and dependencies with views of private businesses only", all this information has no source, apparently for some time, people added countries without taking into account reliable sources, I would like to remove this information as it has no sources, but I do not know how to edit the image. Seb { 💬 Talk + 📝 Edits } 14:10, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Tim Heatley
Courtesy link: Draft:Tim Heatley
Hey, I declared the COI. Can someone review it now? I will edit and create other articles that I am not connected too! Spicyramens (talk) 14:28, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Spicyramens Teahouse hosts are not draft reviewers (well, a few are). Regardless, the draft is one of thousands waiting for a reviewer. As mentioned earlier, the system is not a queue. Can be days, weeks, or (sadly) months. You can edit existing articles and create more drafts. In my opinion, many of the references are only name-mentions of Heatley, or are interviews, neither being types that confirm notability. Heatley should not be quoted (Wikipedia care naught for what Heatley thinks or says). You did not write the draft, but you submitted it. I strongly suggest you work on improving the draft while waiting for a reviewer. David notMD (talk) 16:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
My spelling edits keep getting reverted
I was on Wikipedia fixing typos for articles, but then I noticed that my edits kept being reverted back to the incorrect spelling even if it's correct, what's going on? Pink Saffron (talk) 14:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Pink Saffron. You failed to give any diffs, but I can see some good examples of what you're referring to. It's usually a combination of WP:ENGVAR plus the fact that a lot of people simply can't spell correctly, yet think they can! If it's clearly fixing a plain 'wrong' spelling in any culture, feel free to revert again and to leave an explanatory note for them. Obviously, you'll not be helping if you change colour to color, or vice versa. Sometimes(especially in quotations) you might wish to use
{{notatypo}}
.Nick Moyes (talk) 15:11, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Pink Saffron. Many of your spelling correction have stuck (thank you!), so (as indicated above) it would be really helpful if you advised which reverts/articles prompted your question. Regardless, looking into the issue by anyone would likely target looking at the page histories of the articles involved, the specific diffs (short for "differences") of the reverts found in those page histories, as well as their accompanying edit summaries, if any—all to learn why the reverts took place. My apologies if you are already familiar with these matters, but since I think a knowledge of those parts of the interface are key to answering your question, I'm hoping providing these three links will be helpful to you. One example: looking at the diffs and edit summaries shown in the histories of both Intermittent fasting and V (New York City Subway service) shows that both of the reverts involved were to earlier revisions of the articles, done to remove substantive changes to the prose by another editor (whose additions contained spelling errors that you subsequently fixed), which changes the 'reverters' didn't think should be included at all. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, @Pink Saffron, thanks for you spelling fixes! I used tag filter "mw-reverted" on your contributions [4] and there are not too many, given the numerous edits that you have made. Looking at the history for the most recent example [5], I see the other editor reverted your spelling fix to match the article title, then realised that you were right and they moved the article to the correct spelling. A few others I checked at random are multi-undo's, same as the ones @Fuhghettaboutit noted, so that seems to be the most common cause. If someone reintroduces a spelling error in that way and doesn't correct it themselves, feel free to fix it again. On the other hand, if they revert you specifically, then you might want to open a discussion. Pelagic ( messages ) – (11:36 Sun 30, AEST) 01:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
@keyframes
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Catalogue_of_CSS_classes#%40keyframes Harsh Rathod Poke me! 15:43, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Harshrathod50: Welcome to the Teahouse. You may be able to get more technical help at the technical village pump. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! Harsh Rathod Poke me! 16:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft help
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bhemabhai_Chaudhary?markasread=219149945&markasreadwiki=enwiki Please fix this problem NBC 84 (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @NBC 84: The reviewer is correct here, brother. Carefully read all the policies which are mentioned by him. Not a single reference in your draft is solely dedicated to the subject (the person) in question. Just because someone is a member of a political party does not make him a notable person. There should be written pieces/articles (at least five of them from very highly recognized sources) which talk only about him. I know it is a very salty experience to get something that you've worked on with dedication to get rejected like it was nothing. But this is the reality. Face it. Good luck with your future article submissions. 😉 Harsh Rathod Poke me! 16:46, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- One more suggestion: cite only those sources written in the English language because, obviously, this is an English wikipedia. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 16:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
@RudolfRed and Tenryuu: That is just my suggestion. Simple. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 07:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
What is the best coffee maker under 100 $ machines in 2021?
Carolagee875 (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Graeme McLagan: Turning a name blue
I have added some info to an article originally created by myself. However, a name in the additional material has not turned blue, even though the person referenced has an entry. What have I not done? Christopher michell (talk) 16:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy: Graeme McLagan. I see four ref Wikilinks, but none are a name of a person. P.S., The book titles in the article should be italicized rather than in quotes. David notMD (talk) 16:57, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Christopher michell, I'm guessing you mean Keeley Hawes. You added it as plain text. It will not automatically turn blue when the article is created. Had you added it with brackets, it would have originally been a redlink, and that would automatically turn blue upon creation of the article. S Philbrick(Talk) 17:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
In Taxon Box 'Type Species': Should not the species cited there also be included in discussion listing?
96.54.23.37 (talk) 19:12, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Please clarify what you refer to, and include relevant links. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
My draft
Is my Zoopals draft ready for article space? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JennilyW/Zoopals I added some info and added cations, but I can't find any cations for Zoopals Bowls and utensils. Dose anyone know where or the easiest way I can get cations? Thanks! 🍓⋆JennilyW♡🍧 (talk) 19:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure as to what you mean by "cations", but you may want to look for higher-quality sources; some of the references that you've cited look like press releases, which don't contribute to a subject's notability.
- When talking about style, decapitalise the first letter in your wikilinks. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:50, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @JennilyW: In my opinion, the simple answer to your question is a definite "No". You've not included any citations that are unconnected with the packaging business or sales environment. Therefore, it fails our Notabilty criteria in its present form. A couple of extra lines in the Hefty article might be justified, but notability is WP:NOTINHERITED, so independent sources would be needed before this article is ready for mainspace. I'm sorry to disappoint. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Should these "references" be taken out?
For the page Go Fridge, I see that there are a lot of "references" at the bottom. However, they look more like footnotes describing a person, rather than references. Should they be removed or moved somewhere else? Chuandmi (talk) 01:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- No need to delete the footnotes, Chuandmi. I tend to prefer separating footnotes out from references when there are a lot of them. If there's only one or two then I often don't bother. One way to achieve this would be to change <ref> to {{efn}}, and create a separate Notes section. Pelagic ( messages ) – (11:58 Sun 30, AEST) 01:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Got it, thanks! I noticed that most footnotes are after a person's name, but that person's name is hyperlinked anyways so it's redundant. For example, reference number 36 and 37 essentially states who that person is. Can those be removed? Also some footnotes like 42 are used on someone who does not have a wiki page. Does that footnote need to have a reference or should it be removed entirely? Chuandmi (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Wolfgang Klaehn (Klähn) (Oct. 13, 1929 – June 30, 2019). Painter from Hamburg, Germany.
J.D. Usandivaras (talk) 01:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Wolfgang Klähn (Q2590246). He has an article on German Wikipedia but not other languages. Pelagic ( messages ) – (12:02 Sun 30, AEST) 02:02, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oops, forgot ping J.D. Usandivaras. — Pelagic ( messages ) – (12:03 Sun 30, AEST) 02:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @J.D. Usandivaras: Welcome to Wikipedia. Did you have a question about your draft at Draft:Wolfgang Klaehn? RudolfRed (talk) 02:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I looked at Draft:Wolfgang Klaehn and cleaned it up a bit. It contains no sources, J.D. Usandivaras to get the article published, you will need to add sources. However, in a search I saw no reliable sources online. --- Possibly (talk) 06:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Rating wikipedia articles
Hi, I'm trying to have my wikipedia article On China reviewed for an assignment. I tried to put in DYK section but don't know if I did correctly. Could anyone help me with how to get the article reviewed. Thanks for any help. Clancoo (talk) 02:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Clancoo: Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure what you mean by On China being your article; it's been around since 2012. The article is already in mainspace, so there's no need for it to be reviewed, unless you're thinking of giving it a special designation like good article or featured article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Tenryuu: Sorry I should of said article I worked on. Yes, I was hoping to get it rated, as i have brought it from a stub to a filled article. How can I go about that? Thanks for your help.
- Clancoo: the second sentence of the second paragraph of On China, starting "The book opens", is oddly punctuated, and I can't find a sensible way to parse it. Maproom (talk) 07:48, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- ... and the "Criticism" section needs thorough copy-editing. Maproom (talk) 08:04, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I changed the rating to C-class. With a bit of work, might be B, but that decision should be made by an editor familiar with the topic. Your submission failed at DYK (see Template:Did you know nominations/On China). The increase in prose length was sufficient, but DYK rules require that work be completed within 7 days. By the time you had applied to DYK, already too late. David notMD (talk) 08:49, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- ... and the "Criticism" section needs thorough copy-editing. Maproom (talk) 08:04, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
help - can't enable page preview functionality when reading Wikipedia articles
Can't enable page preview functionality when reading Wikipedia articles 77.13.198.210 (talk) 04:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- You need to create an account to have that option, 77.13.198.210.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- You need an account for Navigation popups but not for Page Previews. If you have disabled it then look for "Edit preview settings" at the bottom of pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:11, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Template for Statistics
Hi.Like there is a template {{adminstats}} for statistics of admins. Is there a similar template which non-admins can use? Vhhhhjhgy (talk) 05:02, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Vhhhhjhgy. I usually use XTOOLS to see stats like that; see the link here]. --- Possibly (talk) 06:09, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm made for CSS beginning for level 1!
CSS
Use CSS for span <span style="background:lavender; padding: 2px 2px; border-radius:3px">CSS</span>
It's rose gold! Q? 05:56, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @RoseGold1250: Do you have a question about using or editing Wikipedia? If you want to learn CSS, try one of these tutorials on MDN. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft checking
I have created a Wikipedia page about Vansh sayani an Indian child artist. Which has not yet been approved. Can anyone tell me why it has not been accepted yet? Tellyring (talk) 08:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tellyring Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia has articles, not mere pages. You have not submitted your draft for review, I will shortly add the appropriate information so you can do so. 331dot (talk) 08:21, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Vansh sayani submitted for review. Please accept it. Tellyring (talk) 08:38, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I restored two Declines of this draft, which Tellyring had removed. David notMD (talk) 09:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tellyring Teahouse hosts advise, but are not AfC reviewers (well, most are not). There is a backlog of about 5,000 drafts. It could be months before this is reviewed again. David notMD (talk) 09:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Also, you have been advised on your Talk page that there is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents about a proposal to block you for disruptive attempts to create and edit this draft (repeated copyright violations, edit warring, etc.). David notMD (talk) 09:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tellyring Teahouse hosts advise, but are not AfC reviewers (well, most are not). There is a backlog of about 5,000 drafts. It could be months before this is reviewed again. David notMD (talk) 09:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I have blocked Tellyring. I hadn't checked the draft history. 331dot (talk) 10:56, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Unjust accusation of copyright violation
Most of an article which I created has been removed on the grounds of copyright violation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Physics_of_Optical_Holography. The section which has been removed has been copied directly from Holography and I wrote most of it in 2011.
The reason for doing this was that the Holography article has been criticised for being too technical. I decided to create a separate article (as above) to describe the more technical aspects of holography, so I copied these from the main article into this one, and thena added some more technical detail. This is all explained on the article's talk page.
The article which is supposed to have the copyright violated is dated 2017, and even includes a photograph which I submitted in 2011. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Broken_hologram.jpg
This is a gross injustice. How can I have this corrected? Epzcaw (talk) 10:10, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Epzcaw. This is probably more of a "misunderstanding" than a "gross injustice"; so, perhaps toning the rhetoric down a bit might be helpful. It's perfectly OK to copy content from one Wikipedia article and add it to another, but in needs to be done in accordance with Wikipedia's licensing requirements as explained here. Please try to understand that a Wikipedia article can be pretty much edited by anyone at anytime, which means the version of the "Holography" article that you created back in 2011 might have been improved upon or otherwise edited by others over the years; so, proper attribution needs to be given to those editors. You sort of provided such attribution on the draft's talk page back when you started the draft in October 2020, but the post was unsigned and it was a bit ambiguous; so, it's quite possible that the person who reviewed the draft and "saw" the copyvio just missed it and assumed the worst. The content seems to have shown up on some other website other than Wikipedia (most likely without proper attribution to Wikipedia), which would actually be a copyvio, and the reviewer probably mistakenly assumed that's where the content originated. If you'd look at the draft's edit history, you'll see that another editor actually restored the removed content and clarified where it came from in their edit summary. Anyway, you've now blanked the draft which is the equivalent of asking that it be deleted per WP:G7; maybe you did just out of frustration, but the "copyvio" accusation could've most likely been sorted out through discussion. Being frustrated is understandable, but blanking the draft seems a bit rash, especially if you think that a WP:SPLIT from the "Holigraphy" article was warranted. As for the issues with the "Holigraphy" article, I don't know enough about the subject matter to try and rewrite it; since you do, however, perhaps trying to rewrite it per WP:TONE and WP:JARGON will make the article more understandable for the general reader. You don't necessarily need to create a new article if you can address the concerns raised about an existing article through copyediting or in other ways. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:54, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Marchjuly Thanks for this. I'm certainly frustrated, and I think I need to take some time out from Wikipedia. I've always been scrupulously careful to give credit where it's due in my working life and in Wikipedia, and it is upsetting to find oneself accused of stealing one's own work in big headlines. I've had a discussion on the Wikipedia-en-help page which resulted in the re-instatement of the deleted text, but the large upfront "Copyright Violation" notice remains and apparently cannot be removed, so I don't see how any reviewer would bother with such an article when there is a 5-month backlog of articles waiting to be reviewed so it's better to delete it. Of course, anyone who wants to can undelete it and work on it but not me. I've also copied it into my Sandbox page, so I might start again sometime under a new heading with appropriate attribution.
- I accept that I did the attribution of copying the material in the wrong place though I'm not clear, even after reading the article above, how I could have referenced the material after it had been deleted from the Holography article.
- As far as the Holography and my draft are concerned, I believe there is a place on Wikipedia for a detailed discussion of the Physics of Holography which I've put together with appropriate referencing, but that this needs to be separate from the Holography page which will be read by people who do not want to trawl through lots of equations (which I put in originally). Without these sections, I believe the article will be more readable for the general public. The comment about the article being "too technical" has been there since 2017, but no-one else has tackled it.
- Yes, the article I was supposed to have copyright-violated has actually reproduced without attribution a photo I added to Wikimedia in 2011, as well as presumably much of the text of the Holography article. Hey ho. Epzcaw (talk) 11:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Epzcaw: The draft currently has no content; so, if it remains that way, it will be deleted either per WP:G7 (as explained above) or per WP:G13. If you want to stop that from happening, you should restore the content.For reference, Wikipedia’s policy on using copyrighted content applies to all Wikipedia pages; so, please make sure you properly attribute the content it your user sandbox because it’s otherwise at risk for being mistaken as a copyvio and being deleted.The way you attributed the draft was OK, but a bit ambiguous and the reviewer either didn’t notice or misunderstood it. That probably happens quite a bit but it’s usually just a misunderstanding. Try looking at WP:PATT and WP:RIA since you can probably restore the content and attribute it in a single edit. The comment about the draft being a copyvio was left by an AFC reviewer in good faith. You’ll see that another editor also left a comment explaining what happened for future AFC reviewers. These comments are just for the benefit of AFC reviewers and will be removed if the article is eventually accepted. The original AFC reviewer is probably off-line at the moment, but perhaps they will respond to the post on their user talk page once they log in again. People sometimes get WP:BUSY and make not immediately respond to a post; so, please be patient.I don’t know anything about the subject matter, but try and remember WP:NOT because any article you try to create is still going to need to comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:42, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Marchjuly: I undertand that people make errors - even me! Yes, the content was re-instated because I brought it to someone's attention, but my issue is that the draft article is forever labelled as "Copyright Violation" and so will never be reviewed for publication - so it's pointless having it there.
- All the content is in my Sandbox page, and I will stick attributions in as many places as I can find to try to avoid this happening again. Anyone else is then free to take the content from my sandbox and use it (with appropriate attribution of course).
- But thank you for your comments - I know you are trying to help. Epzcaw (talk) 13:41, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don’t think it's necessarily true that the draft will never be reviewed because someone mistakenly marked it as a copyvio, but you can find out yourself by asking at WP:AFCHELP. For reference, copyright violations are usually revision deleted so that they are no longer publicly visible even from the page's history. I asked an administrator who does lots of checking of copyvio about the draft, and she didn't revision delete any of the content. So, I'm assuming it's going to be OK as long as it's properly attributed. Moreover, the AFC reviewer can always WP:REDACT their comment if they want and they might do just that once they are informed of the actual state of things. From looking at the draft, it appears that the content has actually been restored by that particular AFC reviewer with an edit summary explaining why. I can't say whether the draft will ultimately be accepted because I don't know much about the subject matter, but you should be able to submit it for another review without worrying about the "copyvio" comment any more. As for any concerns that the wording might be too technical, you can always seek input from the members of WP:PHYSICS or WP:FOTO about the draft or the "Holography" article because that's where you're likely to find editors with experience dealing with these types of articles. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Epzcaw: The draft currently has no content; so, if it remains that way, it will be deleted either per WP:G7 (as explained above) or per WP:G13. If you want to stop that from happening, you should restore the content.For reference, Wikipedia’s policy on using copyrighted content applies to all Wikipedia pages; so, please make sure you properly attribute the content it your user sandbox because it’s otherwise at risk for being mistaken as a copyvio and being deleted.The way you attributed the draft was OK, but a bit ambiguous and the reviewer either didn’t notice or misunderstood it. That probably happens quite a bit but it’s usually just a misunderstanding. Try looking at WP:PATT and WP:RIA since you can probably restore the content and attribute it in a single edit. The comment about the draft being a copyvio was left by an AFC reviewer in good faith. You’ll see that another editor also left a comment explaining what happened for future AFC reviewers. These comments are just for the benefit of AFC reviewers and will be removed if the article is eventually accepted. The original AFC reviewer is probably off-line at the moment, but perhaps they will respond to the post on their user talk page once they log in again. People sometimes get WP:BUSY and make not immediately respond to a post; so, please be patient.I don’t know anything about the subject matter, but try and remember WP:NOT because any article you try to create is still going to need to comply with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:42, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, the article I was supposed to have copyright-violated has actually reproduced without attribution a photo I added to Wikimedia in 2011, as well as presumably much of the text of the Holography article. Hey ho. Epzcaw (talk) 11:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Published author to be featured on Wikipedia
Good day, can you advise how to go about creating a bio as a published author? Petemiguelward (talk) 14:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Petemiguelward. Writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged. Please read the notability guideline for authors and Your first article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 14:48, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Petemiguelward: Being a published author does not, per se, make you notable. I am also an author of a book, and would not expect to have a Wikipedia article about me. Having seen your own website and how you write about yourself, I strongly urge you not to attempt to create an autobiographical article. Let someone else do that once you do attain Notable status, please. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Which WP would be better to improve this article
Hello. I would like some suggestions on which WikiProject would be best suitable to improve this article: Ganapathi Sachchidananda. There are indeed a lot of issues flagged. Thanks for your suggestions. -- DaxServer (talk) 14:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DaxServer: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to improve it. There are several projects listed on the article's talk page. Depending on which section of the article you want to work on, pick the one that fits. For example, if it is the section regarding music, then try the Musicians Wikiproject. RudolfRed (talk) 17:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
YouTube
Can we use YouTube as a reliable source? --Eclectic-Polymath (talk) 14:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Eclectic-Polymath: Not always, and in some cases its strictly forbidden. If the youtube video comes from a verfied channel of a reliable Publisher, the reliability of that Publisher may be inherited. If the video isn't published on a channel by a reliable publisher, then no, it isn't reliable. You also have to keep WP:ABOUTSELF in mind. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:57, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Eclectic-Polymath, think of it this way: YouTube is not a source. It is a platform for hosting videos, some of which are reliable as described by Victor Schmidt, but most of which are not reliable. It is analogous to a bookstore or a TV set. Each sells or displays content, some of which is reliable and most of which isn't. Each YouTube video needs to be assessed on its own merits, using your editorial judgment, with the presumption that most of them aren't reliable. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:14, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- WP:RSPYT has some advice on this. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Trouble with Verifiable References
Hello! I recently had an article declined because my sources were not considered reliable. I had suspected this might happen as I was working with old newspaper clippings from the 50's and 60's many of which are no longer in print. I am wondering how I can proceed or how best to use source material that was published years ago but is no longer verifiable online? Janegrey669 (talk) 15:46, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, welcome to Teahouse! Just to clarify, are you talking about Draft:João Artur da Silva? I see the following problems with provided sources:
- None of these sources have a URL readily available online. There is one source with a URL, but that URL appears dead. Also, there is a source from The Guardian. Maybe, you could find it within The Guardian Archive?
- Some sources have only the date (year) and author name, but not a title. Maybe, you could add the titles of the works?
- Many of these sources are exhibition catalogs, so they include the material submitted by the authors and therefore might not classify as a third-party source. Do these catalogs have any commentary written by, e.g. exhibit curators? If not, catalogs might be considered not reliable like uncurated blog entries, news wire press releases, and article subject's own statements.
- Hope that helps.Anton.bersh (talk) 16:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just to clarify point 1: The source doesn't need a URL if you can verify it in some other way (e.g., by going to a museum or a library). It's just easiest to find material online instead of going to a particular place. Anton.bersh (talk) 16:22, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Stronger than that, Anton.bersh. A source absolutely does not need to be available on line, and even if it is, a URL is often not a crucial part of the citation, but a convenience for the reader or reviewer. The important parts of the citation are title, date, publication, author if available, so that a reader can in principle locate the source (eg through a library as Anton says). Giving this information also helps reviewers to decide quickly whether a source is likely to meet the three criteria of being reliable, independent, and having significant coverage of the subject. Most of your references do have titles, Janegrey669, but several of the titles suggest that these are not independent sources, but derive from the artist's associates or institutions. --ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- The age of the sources isn't the issue, Janegrey669. Non-independent sources can be used for some material, providing that it's just basic details, but in general you want to be using independent sources as much as possible. You also need to ensure that everything in the article can be verified; what's the source for the claim that "In 1991 João Artur relocated again, this time to British Columbia, Canada, so that his wife, Raymonde, could be closer to her sister", for instance? Cordless Larry (talk) 17:44, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Stronger than that, Anton.bersh. A source absolutely does not need to be available on line, and even if it is, a URL is often not a crucial part of the citation, but a convenience for the reader or reviewer. The important parts of the citation are title, date, publication, author if available, so that a reader can in principle locate the source (eg through a library as Anton says). Giving this information also helps reviewers to decide quickly whether a source is likely to meet the three criteria of being reliable, independent, and having significant coverage of the subject. Most of your references do have titles, Janegrey669, but several of the titles suggest that these are not independent sources, but derive from the artist's associates or institutions. --ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Just to clarify point 1: The source doesn't need a URL if you can verify it in some other way (e.g., by going to a museum or a library). It's just easiest to find material online instead of going to a particular place. Anton.bersh (talk) 16:22, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Question about Wikipedia:Notability
I was referred to this noticeboard by another editor regarding a draft I submitted. I am interested in learning about the WP:Notability and WP:NBIO requirements. I read through these carefully and thought that the sources in Draft:Apoorva Mehta met the requirements, but it was declined. I'm trying to learn what is acceptable for these requirements for future reference. Can anyone take a look and explain what I might be misunderstanding about the Basic Criteria in WP:NBIO? The sources are below which I thought had satisfied the “multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject” and my notes about each:
- Feature in Enterpreneur (reviewing editor says this doesn't count because it's "by a contributor")
- Featured on cover of Forbes (he is on the cover, is mentioned 38 times, describes a lot about his personal life and career)
- Another feature in Forbes (more than half of the article is directly about him)
- Featured in TIME (on the Time 100 list)
- Feature in GQ India (more than half of this article is about him)
- Feature in CNBC (is claimed to be "the youngest billionaire of Indian-origin", half of this is about him)
- There’s also this one but honestly looks like the same as the Forbes cover story above so I don't know if it would count for anything: Forbes India
Thank you. BuickaSoka (talk) 15:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Poof! Apoorva Mehta now an accepted article. David notMD (talk) 16:42, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- BuickaSoka, I read the Forbes and Los Angeles Times coverage and quickly became convinced that the article should be accepted so I boldly moved it to main space. I am joking only a little bit when I say that when the Los Angeles Times devotes significant coverage to someone who lives in San Francisco, then that person is notable. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:49, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328 and David notMD Oh, nice thank you. I was pretty sure I had understood WP:NBIO but started to second guess myself and wondered if I was missing another requirement somewhere. Appreciate the feedback! BuickaSoka (talk) 17:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- All I did was make sections. David notMD (talk) 17:22, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Cullen328 and David notMD Oh, nice thank you. I was pretty sure I had understood WP:NBIO but started to second guess myself and wondered if I was missing another requirement somewhere. Appreciate the feedback! BuickaSoka (talk) 17:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- BuickaSoka, I read the Forbes and Los Angeles Times coverage and quickly became convinced that the article should be accepted so I boldly moved it to main space. I am joking only a little bit when I say that when the Los Angeles Times devotes significant coverage to someone who lives in San Francisco, then that person is notable. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:49, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Awards sections
Hi! Is there a convention for including Awards sections in the articles of heads of state? Thanks beforehand! NoonIcarus (talk) 16:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, NoonIcarus. The guidance that I can offer is that if there is a Wikipedia article about the award, and independent coverage in a reliable source confirming that the award was given, then it probably merits inclusion. Do not include obscure and unimportant awards ignored by reliable independent sources. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:53, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Cullen328: Understood, I think that clarifies the issue for the most part, many thanks! --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Anish Thangamuthu
Anish Thangamuthu [1] Is Indian Politician.He is Born on (05/May/1997) in Kanyakumari district .He is Member of Indian National Congress (2015)[2] He Is President of Virudhunagar district National Students' Union of India Secretary [3]
And Tamil Nadu Congress Committee [4] [5] [6]
References
- ^ "Anish Thangamuthu appointed as State President Of the Tamil Nadu Congress Engineering Division". Daily Kumari News (in Tamil). 2021-05-29. Retrieved 2021-05-30.
- ^ "Anish Thangamuthu appointed as State President Of the Tamil Nadu Congress Engineering Division". Daily Kumari News (in Tamil). 2021-05-29. Retrieved 2021-05-30.
- ^ "Anish Thangamuthu from Kanyakumari district has been appointed as the secretary of Virudhunagar district student congress". Daily Kumari News (in Tamil). 2021-05-28. Retrieved 2021-05-30.
- ^ "Anish Thangamuthu appointed as State President Of the Tamil Nadu Congress Engineering Division". Gaon Dastak (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2021-05-30.
- ^ THANGAMUTHU, ANISH. "AnishThangamuthu was born in Manavalakurichi, Kanyakumari district". ANISH THANGAMUTHU. Retrieved 2021-05-30.
- ^ "தமிழக காங்கிரஸ் பொறியியல் பிரிவின் மாநிலத் தலைவராக அனிஷ் தங்கமுத்து நியமிக்கப்பட்டார்". Daily Kumari News (in Tamil). 2021-05-29. Retrieved 2021-05-30.
- Hello Kanyakumari123 and welcome to the Teahouse. Assuming you want to create a WP-article about this person, start with Help:Your first article and follow the guidance there. See also WP:BASIC. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
wikipedia policy on bullying and disruptive editors
Hi I am a new user, havent been able to contribute much yet. One of the articles I contributed to was deleted. I requested it DRV as i was not convinced with the reasons given for its nomination. They were not in line with wikipdeia guidelines and the nominator continued to jump from one reason to another vague reason, it felt like more of disruptive in nature. During the discussion I feel the nominator and the person who deleted it were working as a team, and both have also tried to intimidate me. The account that chose to delete it, is now blocked for sock puppetry. Can someone help me with this? I am open to constructive criticism of my work and also seek guidance on how to deal with disruptive expert editors. Shatbhisha6 (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy: Shatbhisha6 Swami Avdheshanand Giri is at AfD as of 12 May. This article was previously created, AfD'd on 29 March, then recreated for reevaluation. Confusingly, Draft:Swami Avdheshanand Giri also exists, which was Declined and then Rejected in late April. HOWEVER, the Declined and Rejected recommendations were both actions of User:Kashmorwiki, subsequently indef blocked as a sockpuppet. In addition, at the first AfD, Kashmorwiki had recommended Delete, but AfD decisions, as always, are made by an Administrator, not those expressing an opinion. The article and draft are near-identical. David notMD (talk) 19:42, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
2021 iHeartRadio Music Awards
The first paragraph regarding a tweet from Taylor Swift is clearly false. Please fix this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_iHeartRadio_Music_Awards 2601:648:8402:58F0:5925:F48C:D8E4:57BA (talk) 19:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Talk:2021 iHeartRadio Music Awards is the preferred place to report any factual errors in the article, 2601:648:8402:58F0:5925:F48C:D8E4:57BA.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
woodrow wilson
I have added a couple of paragraphs to the Home Front section of the Wilson entry. The entry is protected and I have not received a rsponse to my proposed insert. The current version is inaccurate and biased. <redacted> Rosalux1900 (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Rosalux1900, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you just add a suggestion to a Talk page, it will quite often happen that nobody will notice who is prepared to act on it. The suggested action in WP:Edit requests is to add the template {{edit request}} to your request, which puts it on a list which some editors watch. You have included a source, which is good; but you have not specified precisely what change you are recommending to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Rosalux1900. Please do not post personally identifying information. You did not make a formal edit request. You posted some information on Talk: Woodrow Wilson. Please note that this is a Good article that recently went through a peer review. The article already contains the following paragraph:
- "Anarchists, Industrial Workers of the World members, and other antiwar groups attempting to sabotage the war effort were targeted by A. Mitchell Palmer and his Department of Justice; many of their leaders were arrested for incitement to violence, espionage, or sedition. Wilson was incapacitated and was not told what was happening."
- This article is a biography of Wilson. It should not cover every single thing that happened during his presidency, especially things he was uninvolved with when his health declined. We have other articles such as Industrial Workers of the World, Eugene V. Debs and Palmer Raids where it is appropriate to cover these matters in greater depth. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:14, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Some of the issues that concern you are covered later in the body of the article in the section called "Red Scare and Palmer Raids". Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:44, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Verification
i magically got verified... how the awesome did that happen DA AWESOME BOI (talk) 19:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
what happens when you figure out the answer yourself before the people who could answer it answered it on a question DA AWESOME BOI (talk) 19:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @DA AWESOME BOI, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, I’m sorry but the Teahouse is a place for you to ask questions about editing here, please is there a question you specifically want to ask? By getting verified what do you make reference to? Celestina007 (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DA AWESOME BOI: If you mean the user right called "autoconfirmed", that is added automatically by the software once your account has made a total of 10 edits and is over 4 days old. If you mean something else, please state more precisely what. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
draft:androidwedakarayo.com
draft:androidwedakarayo.com is my first Wikipedia article and it has been declined to publish two times in a row. I want to know why was it happening and how could I get it published successfully without declining it. How to develop the article to get published. Could someone help me with check my draft. If you are an admin, please do not delete it, it is still in draft mode and it doesn't do any harm to Wikipedia. Senlanka (talk) 19:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy: Draft:Androidwedakarayo.com. Status: Declined twice (5/29, 5/29), revised, resubmitted. David notMD (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Senlanka, I'm the reviewer who declined the draft the first time. As the decline message says, we need significant coverage in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Looking at the draft's current references, there are still issues. References #1, #4, and #6 are links to its own website. #8, #9, and #10 are actually the same source which is not actually about androidwedakarayo, it's just the website that hosted a poll. #5 (WHOIS), #7 (Google Play listing), and #8 (Huawei listing) don't help establish notability at all. #2 is a sponsored post from a marketing team. #12 and #13 don't constitute significant coverage. The draft is still in need of sources that satisfy the criteria I laid out at the beginning of this paragraph. Does that make sense? DanCherek (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi DanCherek I got what you said. Could you please decline the submission of the said article? Please do not suggest for speed deletion. I will enhance the article with more reliable sources and let you know before Submit back it again. Please don't suggest for speed deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Senlanka (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Senlanka: I have removed your latest re-submission from the draft. Feel free to work on it at your leisure and resubmit for review if/when the issues have been resolved. DanCherek (talk) 20:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DanCherek: I have checked references #8, #9. In those articles, the journalists have clearly mentioned the contest the held by androidwedakarayo.com and those references were added because I have added a section regarding the events that androidwedakarayo.co has been done. For example I will disclose with quoting the relevant paragraphs from the articles. Please let me know why did those articles are not related with androidwedakarayo.com. Then I can develop my knowledge about selecting references for wikipedia. I hope you will help me to understand.
- @Senlanka: I have removed your latest re-submission from the draft. Feel free to work on it at your leisure and resubmit for review if/when the issues have been resolved. DanCherek (talk) 20:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi DanCherek I got what you said. Could you please decline the submission of the said article? Please do not suggest for speed deletion. I will enhance the article with more reliable sources and let you know before Submit back it again. Please don't suggest for speed deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Senlanka (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Senlanka, I'm the reviewer who declined the draft the first time. As the decline message says, we need significant coverage in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Looking at the draft's current references, there are still issues. References #1, #4, and #6 are links to its own website. #8, #9, and #10 are actually the same source which is not actually about androidwedakarayo, it's just the website that hosted a poll. #5 (WHOIS), #7 (Google Play listing), and #8 (Huawei listing) don't help establish notability at all. #2 is a sponsored post from a marketing team. #12 and #13 don't constitute significant coverage. The draft is still in need of sources that satisfy the criteria I laid out at the beginning of this paragraph. Does that make sense? DanCherek (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Reference #8 from DailyMirror - DailyMirror is a well reputed newspaper in Sri Lanka and dailymirrior.lk is the official website of them. The said reference include like this, and in those articles, they have clearly mentioned androidwedakarayo.com also
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- Furthermore I have checked #9 and #10 references. #9 and #10 was copied the news form Dailymirror.lk and published on their own sites. Therefore, I have removed those duplicated references from the Draft:Androidwedakarayo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Senlanka (talk • contribs) 20:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Senlanka: Sure, it's a reliable source that is about Android Wedakarayo and can certainly remain in the article, but it's only approximately 100 words about your subject (excluding the quote), and so I hope you can support the draft with additional sources that demonstrate more significant coverage in order to establish notability. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
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.) DanCherek (talk) 20:50, 30 May 2021 (UTC)- @DanCherek:Thank you for your feedback Dan. It was very helpful to me. Can I add a YouTube video that has been uploaded by a YouTuber, who has YouTube verified badge? Is it a reliable source? Now I found an event that androidwedakarayo.com has been held in 2018 and the references are only on YouTube. But still I did not add about that event because I want to clarify about using YouTube videos as references.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Senlanka (talk • contribs) 21:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Senlanka: There is no blanket ban on citing YouTube; however, keep in mind that it is self-published, so the video is only as reliable as its publisher. For example, if I cite a news video from the official channel of The New York Times, that would likely be a reliable source. But if I upload my own video, that wouldn't be appropriate for citing on Wikipedia. I believe the verified badge only confirms that someone is who they say they are, and it's not an indication of reliability. Generally proceed with great caution and cite a YouTube channel if and only if other established reliable sources indicate that they are authoritative. DanCherek (talk) 21:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- I see that a contribution I supposedly deleted has been restored. If I in fact did the deletion, it was unintended. So, sorry. Smallchief (talk) 21:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Senlanka: There is no blanket ban on citing YouTube; however, keep in mind that it is self-published, so the video is only as reliable as its publisher. For example, if I cite a news video from the official channel of The New York Times, that would likely be a reliable source. But if I upload my own video, that wouldn't be appropriate for citing on Wikipedia. I believe the verified badge only confirms that someone is who they say they are, and it's not an indication of reliability. Generally proceed with great caution and cite a YouTube channel if and only if other established reliable sources indicate that they are authoritative. DanCherek (talk) 21:27, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DanCherek:Thank you for your feedback Dan. It was very helpful to me. Can I add a YouTube video that has been uploaded by a YouTuber, who has YouTube verified badge? Is it a reliable source? Now I found an event that androidwedakarayo.com has been held in 2018 and the references are only on YouTube. But still I did not add about that event because I want to clarify about using YouTube videos as references.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Senlanka (talk • contribs) 21:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Senlanka: Sure, it's a reliable source that is about Android Wedakarayo and can certainly remain in the article, but it's only approximately 100 words about your subject (excluding the quote), and so I hope you can support the draft with additional sources that demonstrate more significant coverage in order to establish notability. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this:
- Furthermore I have checked #9 and #10 references. #9 and #10 was copied the news form Dailymirror.lk and published on their own sites. Therefore, I have removed those duplicated references from the Draft:Androidwedakarayo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Senlanka (talk • contribs) 20:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Help with editing the bio of a living artist
Hi
In February 2021, I was trying to update a profile of a living artist who happens to be a friend of a friend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlastimil_Beránek
However, I was prevented from updating the biography because the moderator(s) suspected I was being paid for the work. I wasn't. It was simply a favor for a friend. (This was stated to the moderator at the time, to no avail).
Shortly afterwards, I suffered a serious health issue, and have been away from Wikipedia since - until now.
Rather than fall foul of very complicated rules again, I am requesting help, as a new / inexperienced contributor, in updating the artist's profile (as a favor to my old university friend, not a paid gig).
To make it simple, I want to improve / update / correct the biography paragraph-by-paragraph, so that I can easily see what is / what is not being rejected, and learn from it.
Would it be acceptable for me to post each proposed paragraph here on this Teahouse thread, for approval / disapproval / advice, before moving on to the next paragraph?
If not, how best should I proceed?
Many thanks. Blackpebblemedia (talk) 21:38, 30 May 2021 (UTC) Blackpebblemedia (talk) 21:38, 30 May 2021 (UTC)