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Question from user
Formerly El C
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Hello Bureaucrats. I hope you are well. The admin El_C has topic banned me from editing or discussing anything to do with the post-1992 American politics topic area (WP:AP2) for 6 months, broadly construed. I know you're not the ones to come to request a change to this or even to the policy. However, I have come to you today because the enforcing admin is now refusing to answer reasonable questions on my talk page. I tried contacting them on their talk page, but they called it "bordering harassment". So now I can't actully talk to the person who blocked me, what do I do? The admin even said, "You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you." I feel I should be able to scrutinise. I was of the understanding that it is Wikipedia policy to respond to reasonable questions. I would have brought this to someone at a lower level, but the only other place seems to be a arbitration page. I am not asking at all de-admin this user, but I do not know where I else I should go for help in this matter. I must stress, This is not a request to change sanctions and it is not a request to have adminship removed. Kind regards J.Turner99 (talk) 17:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- J.Turner99, please stop pinging me, anywhere, and otherwise forgo all required notification procedures. I am not interested, still. Not in your questions, not in anything about this. I've explained myself in more than enough length. The point is that your appeal was declined at WP:AE, in record time, which means that uninvolved admins have effectively ratified my action. You don't get to appeal a second time the next day, be it informally or in any other way. I am not obliged to answer endless questions (many of whom are irrelevant and/or faulty) from you about this. You appealed, did not succeed, and now it's a done deal. I'd tell you that I don't think you're doing yourself any favours with all of today's morphing-into re-appealing efforts, but I'm starting to doubt you'd listen to me, anyway. Well, at least I through it out there. El_C 17:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) This is very obviously not the right forum (and crats, feel free to remove my comment when you get rid of this thread), but I'll answer.
Where does it say you have the right to violate freedom of speech laws? Is Wikipedia a publisher, or a platform?
is not the type of question that falls under WP:ADMINACCT. Admins have the right to impose sanctions, and your appeal at WP:AE demonstrated that there is support for those sanctions at this time. Your choices now are to agree to accept them and demonstrate good behavior elsewhere, to leave the project, or to be disruptive and get sanctioned more. power~enwiki (π, ν) 17:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- J.Turner99 Though I would recommend you take some time for consideration and reflection before you do so, appealing this result needs to be done at WP:ARCA (or by email to the committee if blocked) per Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Standard provision: appeals and modifications #3. As there is no action for bureaucrats to take, I've archived this thread. –xenotalk 18:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
technical query
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- Formerly remove permissions
Maybe I made some weird mistaken edit with a screen open that I...I don't know. I don't think I was anywhere near TRM's user talk, and I don't know what this is. I think remove permissions until someone figures it out? —valereee (talk) 20:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- You likely accidentally clicked rollback without realizing it. It's not something to worry about; I've done it several times myself! Acalamari 20:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Particularly easy to do from your watchlist.-- P-K3 (talk) 20:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- If that was indeed the case, this Rollback confirmation script might help. Blablubbs|talk 20:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- or pasting .mw-special-Watchlist .mw-rollback-link { display: none; } to commons.css, this only removes the rollback links from the watchlist. (Somebody has shown me this years ago, but I forgot who that was).--Ymblanter (talk) 21:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Blablubbs, thank you so much, I think that would be a good idea, but I'm having a hard time even reading all the instructions right now because OMFG lol...is there an 'Install' button I can just click somewhere? —valereee (talk) 21:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- valereee, maybe just hiding outright is fine too, but for the record, if you enable "Install scripts without having to edit JavaScript files" in your gadgets, you can just go to User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/ConfirmRollback.js (or any other script js page) and hit the "install" button at the top. By default, it only asks for confirmation on your watchlist, but you can add text to User:Valereee/common.js to customise it. My personal preference there is
ConfirmRollback = { watchlist: "hide", contributions: "confirm", recentchanges: "confirm", relatedchanges: "confirm", history: "confirm", diff: "allow", }
- which hides the button on the watchlist and asks for confirmation everywhere except when looking at diffs, but one can customise as needed. Best, Blablubbs|talk 21:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- If that was indeed the case, this Rollback confirmation script might help. Blablubbs|talk 20:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Particularly easy to do from your watchlist.-- P-K3 (talk) 20:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- For the record, I've accidentally rolled back an edit 3 times that I know of, in the last 15 years. One was at WP:ANI. It's not hard to do. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:10, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- valereee: I think your account is probably not compromised, so I re-titled the thread. I also hide rollback links in certain contexts! –xenotalk 21:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry for the freakout —valereee (talk) 21:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it! I accidentally rollback something at least once per year. But as I look through my own contributions almost as often as I check my watchlist, I usually spot it quickly and re-rollback. Incidentally, as the German Wikipedia gave rollback to all reviewers (anyone who can accept pending changes), and many of them were unaware and were then annoyed at having links of such an unfriendly and destructive nature appear all over their watchlists and contributions links, disabling single click rollback was pretty high on a list of technical requests a few years back. So you are far, far from alone :) —Kusma (t·c) 21:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- The freakout was that I rolled back an edit on a user talk! Of someone whom, while I like quite a lot, I've had disagreements with! :D If it had just been some random page, okay, although I'm now unsure what my reasoning was, maybe I just forgot that I made that edit? But this was an unfortunate place to discover this problem. :D —valereee (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Not to fret - I didn't even have to go more than 500 revisions to find my last misclick. –xenotalk 21:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think you can go back one edit behind mine on this very page to see one. Not sure if Floq was being humorous, or it was a true accident, but he reverted you, Xeno. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:04, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Not to fret - I didn't even have to go more than 500 revisions to find my last misclick. –xenotalk 21:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- The freakout was that I rolled back an edit on a user talk! Of someone whom, while I like quite a lot, I've had disagreements with! :D If it had just been some random page, okay, although I'm now unsure what my reasoning was, maybe I just forgot that I made that edit? But this was an unfortunate place to discover this problem. :D —valereee (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it! I accidentally rollback something at least once per year. But as I look through my own contributions almost as often as I check my watchlist, I usually spot it quickly and re-rollback. Incidentally, as the German Wikipedia gave rollback to all reviewers (anyone who can accept pending changes), and many of them were unaware and were then annoyed at having links of such an unfriendly and destructive nature appear all over their watchlists and contributions links, disabling single click rollback was pretty high on a list of technical requests a few years back. So you are far, far from alone :) —Kusma (t·c) 21:37, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, sorry for the freakout —valereee (talk) 21:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Accidental rollbacks are so common—I wish the confirmation script was just a standard part of the user interface. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- The confirmation script makes rollback useless - one can just use the undo button. Most of the accidental rollback probles come from the watchlist, because scripts load too slow. I would only recommend hiding rollback links everywhere or using the confirmation everywhere if one normally does not use rollback at all.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:30, 12 March 2021 (UTC)