Returning
Clean slate of old messages. ValarianB (talk) 13:20, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
DS alert refresh: AP
Here's your friendly annual DS alert refresh for the AP2 topic area, roughly 19 months overdue. Enjoy! ―Mandruss ☎ 23:24, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Kamala Harris
Hi there. Just a reminder that edit warring can come in many different flavors. I would ask/strongly suggest you let someone else revert material about Harris' attendance should it be put back into the article in the near future. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:41, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- My 3 in 10 days doesn't seem bad, IMO, but I'll take the advice to heart. I think Mister Jab73 is skirting far more closely to problematic waters...upon re-revieweing Talk:Kamala_Harris#Attendance, there is literally not another editor (user SPhilbrick expresses a general opinion of wanting the attendance data in every article) supporting his position,. He just comes back every few days and re-adds it, thus staying within the technical limitations of "If an edit you make is reverted you must discuss on the talk page and wait 24 hours before reinstating your edit." but I'd argue not the spirit of it. ValarianB (talk) 19:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- I agree that the regular re-insertion of the content is not with-in the spirit of that idea and have told that editor as much. Consensus has been against including it so far and he has been a lonely voice but there is now another editor suggesting its inclusion so we'll see where discussion lands consensus wise. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 19:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
This is to inform you that I have opened a dispute resolution concerning the Kamala Harris Talk page "Attendance" item. You have commented there. I believe that the "2019" section of the article should reflect the well-documented fact that Senator Harris missed 62 percent of Senate votes in 2019. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Kamala_Harris Jab73 (talk) 07:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes - fewer people should be able to live edit!
Just saw your note on the Kamala Harris talk page saying “ IMO the entirety of Wikipedia should be Extended-confirmed. ”
Does that mean fewer people having their edits go live immediately before being reviewed?
I’m a wikipedian since 2004 but am a community organizer development person running events not good at editing. Especially from my iPad. Don’t know the lingo.
So many changes would help fix what’s broken behind the scenes here. So much time being wasted reverting changes that shouldn’t have been made by
Definitely want to find fellow peeps who think it’s time for the 5 million articles to have trained teams curating the articles instead of free for all’s and edit wars. Something about wasting everyone’s time less....
Like giving everyone the freedom to write on Talk pages (rarely constrained, right?) and only the active registered stewards for sets of pages taking suggested changes and deciding how to apply them. Readers can make change suggestions on any talk page without wasting their time...
It’s late here and I’m rambling. Just jazzed to see your comment and hope I’m interpreting correctly. Or that you’ll help me better understand. Happy to connect either way. DrMel (talk) 08:33, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
- Just trying to think outside the box is all, which was only met with jokes and stupidity on that talk page section, unfortunately. Dealing with people adding garbage to articles is just a massive time-sink, and is largely why I have scaled back editing as of late. ValarianB (talk) 14:26, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Far-right
Thanks for the cleanup of redundant words on the Richard Uihlein BLP. I am disturbed, however, by the linking of the term far-right used in the Forbes article to the WP definition:
- "today far-right politics includes neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism,[8] and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of ultranationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, anti-communist, or reactionary views.[9]"
If you read about Richard Uihlein, you will see that he is a staunch conservative basing his views on primarily on libertarian business/economic principles. He does not fit any of the definition of far-right that is in the WP definition. At the minimum this should be unlinked because that is not what the author of the Forbes article had in mind. 99.7.151.39 (talk) 04:01, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- All of which apply to Richard Uihlein. You will find no sympathy for your bias here, I'm afraid. I was simply clearing up a redundancy. ValarianB (talk) 12:35, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- Even if you are on the left of the political spectrum, I don't see what benefit there is for society to falsely label someone in this way. When you misapply the label, you weaken the meaning of it for those who truly fit under the label. What happens when an actual neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, white supremacism, white nationalism person comes along. Then when you give that person the proper label you've already diluted the meaning of the label by making false accusations toward mainstream political figures. Richard Uihlein donates to mainstream conservative Republican candidates, not Alt-Right candidates. I don't intend to have a debate, just my closing comment for this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.7.151.39 (talk • contribs)
North Korea
Hi. Since when type of government infobox is only for reality? Then, acording what you say, we should also remove “socialist” at the government inbofox of the People’s Republic of China’s article, right? Also, Nort Korea self-proclaims as a socialist state, and this is the reality. How can you say that DPRK is not a socialist state? Health, housing and education are all free, and all companies are state-owned. I suggest you again to add “socialist” at the infobox. Forgive me if my English is not good. --ZAPgon3 (talk) 09:58, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- There is no longer anything socialist or even Communist existing in North Korea. It is an ultra-nationalist dictatorship. ValarianB (talk) 13:23, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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December 2020
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