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Russian Rural Localities 3: Son of Localistein
Hey, if you've got a minute, wondering if you could do another one of your bot-sorted lists for me from Category:Rural localities in Arkhangelsk Oblast? As always, no rush, eternal gratitude, will provide peeled grapes and palm fans upon request etc etc :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hey PMC. Its at User:JJMC89/Rural localities in Arkhangelsk Oblast. — JJMC89 05:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Cheers! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- I was wondering if there's any way you could show me how to do these myself so I don't have to keep bugging you every time I need to sort one of the categories? There's almost 90 federal divisions in Russia and I would hate to ask you to do all that work if there's any way I could learn to do the work myself. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- Cheers! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
@PMC: Below is the process that I have been using.
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If it is a regular need, I could write a bot script to do all of the work. — JJMC89 03:49, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting your process (and oh my god, thanks for doing all that as a favor to me). I could do that myself I think, but a bot or script would be hugely helpful if it's not too much trouble for you to make. There's about 90 federal divisions of Russia, most of which seem to have 100-200 localities at a minimum. While some lists currently only have a few entries, that's because I was working off what articles existed at the time. Nikolai Kurbatov is powering through creating articles for every single locality, so lots of the lists are out of date and will need updating, not to mention the ones I never got around to creating. A method of automatically sorting the output by district would be incredibly helpful for me in updating and maintaining the lists of rural localities in Russia - but only if it's not too much trouble. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:09, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- It shouldn't be too much trouble. If all of the articles use the same infobox, then it is easy to get the districts. Articles without infoboxes or with a different infobox are a little more trouble. — JJMC89 05:24, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
California's 27th congressional district
Hi you deleted the image: File:Everett-G-Burkhalter-of-California.tiff. I am a bit confused as to why. I got the file from wikimedia and it seems to be covered by fair use. I may be wrong so I guess I am just looking for an explanation? Benawu2 (talk) 15:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- That file has never been deleted. However, it was removed from California's 27th congressional district for not satisfying WP:NFCC#10c. Even if it did, it wouldn't satisfy WP:NFCC#8 in that article. — JJMC89 02:58, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
James N. Weinstein
COPYVIO has returned. Thank you for taking a look.--- Coffeeandcrumbs 21:08, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Nuked — JJMC89 21:15, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Miscellany for deletion
Hello. Your behaviour is atleast not okey. The discussion is not over. You are even doing it again after reading of my atention. Eurohunter (talk) 23:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm suprised of your negative behaviour. This is my last attempt. I restoring my thread and I expect your answer. No removing discussions without answer. Eurohunter (talk) 08:56, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, the discussion was over. I'm sure Legacypac would have replied before my close if he had intended to at all. Doing what again? You're the one that edited a closed discussion despite the clear notices that say not to. — JJMC89 04:50, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know what this is about. Legacypac (talk) 06:19, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. Its about Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Basshunter. — JJMC89 06:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes I say that ping to me but I'd already explained myself so many times there was no point posting further. No one else felt like responding either. The portal was clearly deletable and there is all kinds of precedent. We are deleting even the most famous singers and bands as too narrow scope. Portal:The Beatles is up for deletion as is Portal:Micheal Jackson and Portal:The Rolling Stones just to name some off the top of my head. Legacypac (talk) 06:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Legacypac: I mean WikiProject:
- Yes I say that ping to me but I'd already explained myself so many times there was no point posting further. No one else felt like responding either. The portal was clearly deletable and there is all kinds of precedent. We are deleting even the most famous singers and bands as too narrow scope. Portal:The Beatles is up for deletion as is Portal:Micheal Jackson and Portal:The Rolling Stones just to name some off the top of my head. Legacypac (talk) 06:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. Its about Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Basshunter. — JJMC89 06:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know what this is about. Legacypac (talk) 06:19, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, the discussion was over. I'm sure Legacypac would have replied before my close if he had intended to at all. Doing what again? You're the one that edited a closed discussion despite the clear notices that say not to. — JJMC89 04:50, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
A wikiproject for one singer is not going to be able to gain and hold participemts. It's ju–st to narrow. We can move the page into your userspace or you can copy the key info there but no WikiProject in Wikipedia space makes sense for this narrow topic. Legacypac (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
There is many wikiprojects for one singer so it's not argument. Eurohunter (talk) 13:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Only because no one has bothered to seek deletion. Most Wikiprojects are dead anyway Legacypac (talk) 15:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Would you see deletion of Christina Aguilera, Kylie Minogue or Rihanna wikiprojects? Eurohunter (talk) 17:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Maybe... if they lack activity and are better handled under a wider scope wikiproject Legacypac (talk) 22:16, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Schould I find more participants then? Eurohunter (talk) 11:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
You made precedent. Eurohunter (talk) 10:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter: The discussion is clearly over; by being fixated with the issue you're not really going to achieve anything at this point. A WikiProject means nothing if no one is around to maintain it. Many of them are now almost pointless, and even most of the active ones only serve as discussion forums for people in the topic area. If you couldn't find anyone with which to discuss Basshunter in the last six months, there's nothing we can do about that, the project has probably run its course, and if someone else shows interest an admin can restore the deleted page. Jc86035 (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Jc86035: Then could you restore WikiProject page just for limited time (6, 12 hours?) so I can copy needed stuff? Eurohunter (talk) 14:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Eurohunter: I'm not an admin. Jc86035 (talk) 14:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Jc86035: Then could you restore WikiProject page just for limited time (6, 12 hours?) so I can copy needed stuff? Eurohunter (talk) 14:40, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
NACD and TfD
Hi. I wanted to ask you about this edit with the summary revert delete closes done contrary to WP:NACD
. I realize that I made a mistake with the tagging of the category for deletion, but can you explain how this is contrary to NACD? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- @DannyS712: The relevant part of NACD is below. Those closes only required deletion, not orphaning, so a non-admin should not close them as delete.
- Non-administrators should limit their closes to outcomes they have the technical ability to implement; for example, non-admins should not close a discussion as delete, because only admins can delete pages.
- Exception: a non-administrator may close a TfD as orphan.
- Additionally, it just makes more work for admins since WP:XFDC can't be used if the discussion is already closed. — JJMC89 02:09, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- @JJMC89: I have read that policy, and have observed other non-admin closes. I have realized that "orphan" means "delete once all transclusions are removed". For the relevant background, See Special:Diff/695098674, where the TfD exception was first added to NACD, Special:Diff/716267935, where it was partially corrected, and Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion/Archive 19#RfC: Proposal to allow non-admin "delete" closures at TfD, which proposed that non admins be allowed to close TfDs as delete (
Consensus in favor of this proposal would interpret the WP:NACD guideline as permitting delete closures of uncontroversial discussions by experienced editors where enacting the short-term outcome is within the technical ability of non-administrators.
) and was closed as consensus in favor of implementing that idea (However, there is clear support for at least trying out the alternative proposal. I recommend looking into a trial of the orphan/CSD mechanism, and if this fails to resolve the issue then the first question can be revisited.
). Since the templates were already orphans, the CSD mechanism applied. There is no evidence that the closes are limited to orphan only when templates are still transcluded, and since orphaning a template is the same as marking it ready for deletion, I merely skipped the step of listing it as "to orphan" and then immediately moving it as ready for deletion and tagging the templates individually. While I understand you point about XFDC, I don't believe that you desire to use it warrants undoing my close with a summary that says I violated a wikipedia guideline. In short, as far as I can tell you reverted my close claiming I violated a guideline that I believe I followed, and then proceeded to make the same close yourself. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:18, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- @JJMC89: I have read that policy, and have observed other non-admin closes. I have realized that "orphan" means "delete once all transclusions are removed". For the relevant background, See Special:Diff/695098674, where the TfD exception was first added to NACD, Special:Diff/716267935, where it was partially corrected, and Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion/Archive 19#RfC: Proposal to allow non-admin "delete" closures at TfD, which proposed that non admins be allowed to close TfDs as delete (