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- 1 A plain document from news source
- 2 French logo for Veterans group page
- 3 File:Basquiat.jpg
- 4 Digitized newspaper illustration
- 5 Deviantart
- 6 CS+Social Good logo
- 7 Request for audio review - Phenomenauts
- 8 Re: File:Ashley Artus Wiki Profile pic.jpg
- 9 French Government Logos
- 10 District Council of Coonalpyn Downs
A plain document from news source
Is this document has copyright per se? I'm confused beacuse it was captured from a news source. However, it may be in public domain as well. --Horus (talk) 13:07, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Being published in news does not make it public domain. Copyright is retained on publication. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:15, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Basically the text reaches threshold for copyright, correct? --Horus (talk) 19:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- There is enough text there to reach copyright, even if I have no idea what it is saying. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:34, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Basically the text reaches threshold for copyright, correct? --Horus (talk) 19:27, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
French logo for Veterans group page
Assistance requested regarding reuse of fr:File:Onac-logo_copier.jpg on en-wiki. Please discuss at Talk:National Office for Veterans and Victims of War#Logo image. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:13, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
File:Basquiat.jpg
This is a bit strange because the file is from Commons (c:File:Basquiat.jpg) and is clearly marked as such, but there's also a non-free use rationale and non-free license added to the file's local English Wikipedia page. This seems a bit different from the "shadowing" that happens when a non-free has the same name as a Commons file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:33, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think that this cannot be claimed with PD or CC. The image is not PDtextonly (its not typeface), and text is long enough to be copyrightable. There is no clear connection between the uploader there at Commons and the people noted to be authors. Thus we need to treat this as NFC. --Masem (t) 05:12, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- There is a bug when a Commons redirect shadows a local file. I've moved the local file to File:Jean-Michel Basquiat 1986 by William Coupon.jpg. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:18, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Digitized newspaper illustration
What is the status of drawings/illustrations taken from old digitised newspapers? I have found one from here https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/41706445?(paper dates from 1904) - can I upload the pic to commons? Is it ok because its from pre 1923, or is there something I'm missing? Curdle (talk) 11:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- The copyright of the digitised form is basically the same as the original newspaper. This would be public domain in Australia where published (pre 1955), and also in the USA as pre 1923, though you should find out if it was published in the USA. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Deviantart
At the bottom on this page it says "License Some rights reserved. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-No Derivative Works 3.0 License." Does that mean that different Deviantart pages have different copyright statuses? And in this case is Some rights reserved one of the ones which is allowed to be uploaded to Commons?★Trekker (talk) 11:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yew, uploaded a to Deviant art have to opportunity to set a lincense, the default usually is not CC. I know you set CC, but don't know if you set to CC BY or CC BY SA. CC BY ND does not work for commons --Masem (t) 11:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I clicked the Icon and it let to the page https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/ so it seems it's not Commons workable sadly.★Trekker (talk) 11:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
CS+Social Good logo
Is this logo eligible for copyright? I'm considering using it for a draft I'm working on. Qzekrom 💬 theythem 15:02, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe, maybe not. Safer to get the article published first, then upload as non-free. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Request for audio review - Phenomenauts
Hello, I would like to request review of an audio clip for use in The Phenomenauts. I have been working on the article to try and raise it to GA status.
I have posted on the Talk page here outlining a case for why I believe inclusion is appropriate. In particular, the song seems somewhat notable, and has received reviewer commentary. I have worked to include mention of the song in the article. I feel that including a single, short audio clip would add substantially to the reader's understanding of the musical style and quality of the article.
Would anyone be willing to take a look and comment on whether this is correct and the audio clip could be included?
For context:
- I originally posted here in June 2018, asking about best practises for including audio.
- I asked the admin for a review of my re-work in November 2018
- I also asked for a peer review in November 2018
- I attempted to ask the admin again in February 2019 (it appears to be hidden under the "misplaced draft" template at the end)
The original administrator appears to be quite busy, and I don't want to bother them if they don't have time to discuss it. I would love some feedback on whether my edits are on the right track, and this is an appropriate case/argument for including a single audio clip. Could anyone take a look?
Thanks for your time. --Culix (talk) 03:18, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Re: File:Ashley Artus Wiki Profile pic.jpg
Hi there
Really hope you can help with this...
The above named photo was uploaded back on 29.12.18...however, I am not sure what I need to do next - being a "newbie"...
see: File:Ashley Artus Wiki Profile pic.jpg
From what I can gather from the "notice" on the page it looks like all that needs doing is adding the correct "licence" type & filling any blank fields in...
An email containing details of the permission for this file has been sent in accordance with WP:OTRS. Note to uploaders: Please copy the URL of this image or article in the email to assist OTRS volunteers to find it. If an email cannot be found in the OTRS system, the content may be deleted for lack of valid licensing information. Note to OTRS volunteers: If the email contains sufficient confirmation of the validity of the license, please replace this template with OTRS permission|id=Ticket number and consider moving to Commons. Otherwise, nominate the file for deletion or delete it. Please be aware that there is currently a 49-day backlog processing messages sent to the permissions-en queue.
Would I be correct in saying that ?
The photo has been sat in this state since end of Dec 2018 and Mr Artus would really like to get the photo up on the Ashley Artus page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Artus
Can someone take a look at this please & see if everything is there that needs to be there and if not please let me know ASAP so that I can either get the required info or add the appropriate tags & info etc ??
It says in the "notice" that there was a 49 day backlog - well...we are now the 12th April 2019 and that is now well over the 49 days !!
Would be really grateful if someone could look at this URGENTLY as all that needs to go up on the main page now is ONE photo !!
Many thanks,
Andy
AndycBtn (talk) 11:47, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Andy. A couple of things before answering your question.
- Wikpipedia doesn't really have any deadlines; so, you sometimes have to just be patient and wait for a process to run its course. There are lots of emails to verify but only so many people to do the verifying.
- Wikipedia articles aren't for promoting the subject of an article, which means that photos aren't automatically added to an article just because the subject wants them added. You try adding the file to the article, but if someone removes it, then you may need to establish a consensus to use it on the article's talk page.
- This is no "Ashley Artus" page, but rather an article written about him. This is a subtle but important difference because the subjects of articles don't have any claim of ownership over article content; in fact, the subjects of articles and anyone connected to them or editing on their behalf are going to be considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with respect to anything written about them on Wikipedia and thus should not be trying to directly add content or make changes to any concerned articles, except as explained in WP:COIADVICE.
- Now about the image, whoever emailed Wikimedia OTRS should've gotten an automatic reply containing an OTRS ticket number. This ticket number will help an OTRS volunteer track down the email; so, if you were the one who sent the email it, you can then ask about the status of it at WP:OTRSN. OTRS volunteers can't go into details on Wikipedia, but they can send specific details to you via email (more specifically to the email address you originally used). Now, if you weren't the person who sent the email, you can still ask about the status of the email at OTRSN, but they won't discuss any details with you either on Wikipedia or via email. One thing about OTRS is that they typically don't accept forwarded emails; so, if Artus sent a consent email to you and you then forwarded that email to OTRS, then they can't accept that. It's better to have the copyright holder of the image send the email to OTRS. Finally, one last thing is that the copyright holder of a photo is considered to be the photographer who takes the photo, not the subject of the photo. So, if Artus is not the person who took the photo, he wouldn't be considered to be the copyright holder unless it was a work for hire or there was a copyright transfer agreement where the copyright of the photo was transferred to him. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:07, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- AndycBtn, As Marchjuly said there are no deadlines for this but upon review, all I can tell you that a ticket number has been attached to the file, however previous tickets exist that were never followed up on, so then, as now, its copyright status is unverified. OTRS will require a permission statement directly from the copyright holder, not the subject, sent with the ticket number as listed on the file as reference. ww2censor (talk) 16:03, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
French Government Logos
Okay, so I consulted our copyright page for France, and it seemed contradictory on the materials originating from the French Government and their website.
I want to upload the logo for Sécurité Civile, which is a part French Ministry of the Interior. I found the logo in this document, which I found here: Sécurité civile page over in the right sidebar. Is this a non-free logo or is there a free license I'm allowed to use with it.--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 02:09, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi The Navigators. For some reason the pdf file you linked to is downloading the file onto my computer, which just could be me, so I'm wondering if the logo you want to upload is the same one appearing at the upper left of the "Sécurité civile page". If it is, then I don't think that would be {{PD-logo}} per c:COM:TOO France and also probably (but it might be close) per c:COM:TOO United States. Mostly the logo would be fine as WP:NFC using {{Non-free logo}} and {{Non-free use rationale logo}} if you simply intend it to be used for primary identification purposes at the top of or in a main infobox for Sécurité Civile; other articles or purposes of use, however, might be a bit harder to justify per WP:NFCC. Whether the file is c:Template:Gouvernement.fr or some other type of PD because it comes from a government website, however, is not so clear per c:COM:FRANCE#Images from public web sites. Is there a separate license attached to the logo or the pdf file itself? Otherwise, it appears that someone (sorry I can't read French) is claiming copyright over the content hosted by that website, which might mean it's quite different from WP:PD#U.S. government works; so, once again it seems like non-free content might be the best way to go here.There is a possibilty of using {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} if the logo is considered "PD-logo" in the US, but not France. The file, however, still cannot be uploaded to Commons in this case, and will be treated as sort of a "local PD file" for use on English Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:28, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- marchjuly Okay, I've uploaded it as a NF-Logo, and placed it in the article. Here it is: File:Sécurité Civile - Logo.svg. I'm not great at determining where the line on 'too simple' with some of these logos. So, should we downgrade it to 'PD-Ineligable-USonly' or keep it as NFCC. The base of the logo uses the generic 'civil defense' logo specified by the UN, which is what's used on the page currently. I was a little baffled by the c:Template:Gouvernement.fr, since the template mentions a pretty narrow date range but our guidance page didn't mention anything about the date range, because our guidance warned against using any photographs, but it's a vector drawing of a logo, which isn't a photograph. *Shrugs*, I'm fine if we just want to leave it at one of the other licenses you suggested.--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 04:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- It seems I was looking at the wrong logo when I first posted. Anyway, see Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 March 28#File:Notre Dame College Crest.png for recent example of "PD-ineligible-USonly" being applied or Category:Public domain images ineligible for copyright in the United States but not in their source countries for some other examples. It's not really an exact science. The file is fine as non-free, but it's use is limited by WP:NFCC; as "PD-ineligible-USonly" it would be much easier to use in other Wikipedia articles and on other Wikipedia pages. I think the primary elements (the circle and triangle) are definitely "PD-logo" in the US, but the other elements might be borderline. Perhaps, others will comment one way or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll leave it for now and see if we get anymore input, either way on the matter. So, other editors, feel free to weight in on this file: File:Sécurité Civile - Logo.svg. Is it too simple to be copyrighted in the US and could be relicensed as {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} or remain as {{Non-free logo}}.--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 05:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- It seems I was looking at the wrong logo when I first posted. Anyway, see Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 March 28#File:Notre Dame College Crest.png for recent example of "PD-ineligible-USonly" being applied or Category:Public domain images ineligible for copyright in the United States but not in their source countries for some other examples. It's not really an exact science. The file is fine as non-free, but it's use is limited by WP:NFCC; as "PD-ineligible-USonly" it would be much easier to use in other Wikipedia articles and on other Wikipedia pages. I think the primary elements (the circle and triangle) are definitely "PD-logo" in the US, but the other elements might be borderline. Perhaps, others will comment one way or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- marchjuly Okay, I've uploaded it as a NF-Logo, and placed it in the article. Here it is: File:Sécurité Civile - Logo.svg. I'm not great at determining where the line on 'too simple' with some of these logos. So, should we downgrade it to 'PD-Ineligable-USonly' or keep it as NFCC. The base of the logo uses the generic 'civil defense' logo specified by the UN, which is what's used on the page currently. I was a little baffled by the c:Template:Gouvernement.fr, since the template mentions a pretty narrow date range but our guidance page didn't mention anything about the date range, because our guidance warned against using any photographs, but it's a vector drawing of a logo, which isn't a photograph. *Shrugs*, I'm fine if we just want to leave it at one of the other licenses you suggested.--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 04:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
District Council of Coonalpyn Downs
To whom it may concern,
The JJMC89 bot remove the following file from the above article presumably for valid reasons - Coonalpyn downs.jpg Can you please explain why the image is still on the article about the town and locality of Coonalpyn, South Australia? Please reply here as I am now watching this page.
Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 02:33, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Cowdy001. You could ask JJMC89 on his user talk page, but basically the file was removed from the article about the district (as explained in the edit summary left by the bot) per WP:NFCCE. Each use of a non-free file is required to satisfy ten non-free content use criteria, and one of these criteria (WP:NFCC#10) states that a separate specific non-free use rationale needs to be provided for each use. File:Coonalpyn downs.jpg does have a non-free use rationale, but it's only for the use in the article about the town. Now, if you think the file's non-free use can also be justified in the article about the district, add a non-free use rationale for that particular use to the file's page and then re-add the file to the article. Be advised, however, that adding a non-free use rationale is just one of the aforementioned ten criteria, and another editor might still feel the other remaining criteria are not met and either tag the file with {{di-disputed fair use rationale}} or start a discussion about it at WP:FFD.Now, my personal opinion is that it seems that the logo is more for identifying the district council than the town itself; so, the file's non-free use seems more justifiable for an article about the district than an article about the town, and should probably be removed from the latter. Also, I don't think the way the 1957 map has been added to the article about the district is really in accordance with WP:SANDWICH, or WP:IMAGESIZE, etc. That, however, is not really related to file copyright and probably should be discussed on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:19, 16 April 2019 (UTC)