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As of this moment, we are engaging in what I think is admirable short-term restraint. We say in the lede "He has a history of making controversial [weasel words] comments." That's fine as far as it goes, because 'controversial comments' is true, and is neither positive nor negative as an evaluation. Sometimes controversial comments are good, sometimes they are bad. Fine.
But we are at the same time here being too cautious, I think, in that we fail to inform the reader as to why the comments are controversial. Is he saying things that might be controversial in Iowa like "Gay marriage should be legal" or "Marijuana prohibition has done more harm than good"? No, actually.
So I think we should cautiously say something like "He has a history of making comments that have commonly been referred to as racist.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]" Well, maybe 9 footnotes is excessive, but you see my point. We have more than enough to make the point that the reader needs to know, and I think the point is stronger than if we simply say, in our own voice, that he has a history of making racist comments. --Jimbo Wales (talk) 9:57 am, 19 June 2018, Tuesday (19 days ago) (UTC−5)
BLPs wherein a subject's work, beliefs or ideologies are perhaps more controversial than the actual subject, should not become focused on bolstering and subsequently refuting the subject's views or theories rather than actually defining the subject. In many cases this may in fact be due to the subject trying to push their own ideas, while others work diligently to refute them, but many such cases involve editors who have no affiliation with the subject other than a personal belief/disbelief in their work. A person's biography is not a good place to debate scientific theory or ideological beliefs; such debates belong in the articles that focus on those topics. For BLPs, it is enough to simply state what their views are and link to the articles which expand on those views.
(quote by Zaereth edited for brevity; Jimbo Wales agreed with Zaereth’s explanation.)
- For better digestion, I drink beer.
- For appetite loss, I drink white wine.
- If my blood pressure is too low, I drink red wine.
- For high blood pressure, I drink scotch.
- When I have a cold, I drink schnapps.”
- My friend asked, “When do you drink water?”
- I replied, “I’ve never been that sick.”
When I was young, I decided to enroll in medical school.
On the entrance exam, we were asked to unscramble the letters...
...to form the name of an important human body part that is most useful when erect.
The students who answered SPINE are doctors today, and the rest of us are editing Wikipedia.Four worms were placed in 4 separate test tubes:
- 1st in beer
- 2nd in wine
- 3rd in whiskey
- 4th in mineral water
The next day, the teacher shows the results:
- The 1st worm in beer - dead.
- The 2nd in wine - dead.
- The 3rd in whiskey - dead.
- The 4th in mineral water - alive and in good health.
The teacher asks the class:
- What did you learn from this experience?
A student responds:
- Whoever drinks beer, wine and whiskey does not have worms.
- ...sarcasm burned calories.
- ...you knew, you would know.
- ...closed minds came with closed mouths.
- ...mosquitos sucked fat instead of blood.
- ...the good died young, we'd be here forever.
- ...my teeth were as white as my legs.
- ...more people were fluent in silence.
- It is much easier to ride a horse in the direction it is going. ~Abraham Lincoln
- It gets late early out there. ~Yogi Bera
- There comes a time on Wikipedia when it's important to know when to stop arguing with editors, and simply let them be wrong. Atsme📞📧
- Nodding the head does not row the boat. — Irish Proverb
- Make haste slowly. —Kikkoman
- Be who you are, say what you mean, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. — Bernard Baruch
- Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." —Randy Pausch
- I have made this letter longer than usual, because I lack the time to make it short. ~ Blaise Pascal
- Knowledge should be fun so don't take the fun out of fundamental.
- Patience is a virtue. Give karma a chance.
- I may not be young enough to know everything, but I'm old enough to not believe everything.
- What border? Oh, that one. Nah...not a problem - open borders.
- A tip for longevity: Never believe the impossible can't happen to you.
- “It is well known that human choices are affected by the way in which a question is phrased.” ~ Benedetto de Martino
Who punched the spike?
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- It is my immense pleasure to nominate Atsme, a highly prolific veteran editor and one of the best contributors to Wikipedia. She is an editor who totally deserves this award and, in fact, it was very astounding that she has not received it yet. She has created 43 articles and provided 84 Images to enhance WikiPedia. She is a proud member of the WP Response Team, the Guild of Copy Editors and Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing. There are countless reasons to nominate her, but the best reason would be: "Writing or significantly expanding articles on a regular basis". A visit to her talk page is filled with humor and enjoyably fun. She has immensely contributed to a wide array of animal species in addition to other articles on monuments (American paddlefish, Faisalabad, bowfin, loham, and the Taj Mahal as well as several others). I would therefore strongly advocate that she be adorned with this award!
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Atsme |
Editor of the Week for the week beginning February 17, 2019 |
One of the best contributors to Wikipedia, she has created 43 articles and provided 84 Images. A member of WP Response Team, the Guild of Copy Editors and Wikipedia:WikiProject Horse racing. A talk page filled with humor and enjoyably fun. |
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Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7 ☎ 15:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Congratulations. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- ... this is such an honor ... I am humbled over the recognition, and feel blessed with the good fortune of having collaborated with some extraordinary past recipients of this memorable award. Such recognition is very much appreciated - thank you Adityavagarwal, Buster7 and Emir of Wikipedia - but I must admit that I feel a bit guilty over being rewarded for something I truly love doing...uhm, but not guilty enough to not display it on my user page. Atsme 📣 📧 16:34, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well done, Atsme. It's not just your Talk page that's "filled with humor and enjoyably fun". You have a great sense of humor and that's really appreciated. Great article work too, of course! Martinevans123 (talk) 16:48, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Congrats from me too! --Tryptofish (talk) 20:12, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Martin and Tryp...without your comedic minds and contributing wit, I would have no humor. Quite frankly, I was taken aback when I first saw the award - I had recently read this Op-ed by Kudz - but then I recognized the names involved here and with a big sigh of relief, I started running a marathon. It was a great way to start the day! In fact, Happy Hour came much earlier than usual as a result, and it's showing promise as an all-nighter. 🥂 🍾 😜 Atsme 📣 📧 22:07, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- I somehow missed the entire mess described in that op-ed, but now that I've seen it, I could use a drink myself. Not good. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- I am of the crowd that says I would have thought you had received this honor already. Well then, justice is now served as I can think of no one who deserves it more at this time. Congratulations! It is from a handful of editors that include you from which I have improved my editing skills since I got here a bit over two years ago. Very well deserved indeed. dawnleelynn(talk) 00:43, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- dawnleelynn ❤️ Atsme 📣 📧 00:55, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Very well deserved! A little late, but congrats!! Horsegeek(talk) 02:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)Horsegeek
- Thank you, Horsegeek - ❤️ Atsme 📣 📧 02:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Every week for fuck knows how long you have been a colleague, you have been editor of the week, with your wit, gentle toughness (don't fuck with Atsme) and enormous body of contributions. Lurve your style, lurve you for being you. Honest and gutsy, with your own compass. Oh and being a confident and strong woman, without needing any 'ism' or 'ist' label. You are you. Respect Simon Adler (talk) 05:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, Simon! My TP edit banner must be doing its job. I was awestruck reading your words..admittedly with a momentary pause at "enormous body" thinking maybe a punchline was forthcoming. (sidenote: the words on the back of my t-shirt when touring astride the Suzi: "Does this bike make my ass look fast?") Anyway, humor aside, the real me was blushing. I'm delighted that our interactions have always been with mutual respect and admiration. ❤️ Atsme 📣 📧 14:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Every week for fuck knows how long you have been a colleague, you have been editor of the week, with your wit, gentle toughness (don't fuck with Atsme) and enormous body of contributions. Lurve your style, lurve you for being you. Honest and gutsy, with your own compass. Oh and being a confident and strong woman, without needing any 'ism' or 'ist' label. You are you. Respect Simon Adler (talk) 05:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you, Horsegeek - ❤️ Atsme 📣 📧 02:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Very well deserved! A little late, but congrats!! Horsegeek(talk) 02:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)Horsegeek
- dawnleelynn ❤️ Atsme 📣 📧 00:55, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- I somehow missed the entire mess described in that op-ed, but now that I've seen it, I could use a drink myself. Not good. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Martin and Tryp...without your comedic minds and contributing wit, I would have no humor. Quite frankly, I was taken aback when I first saw the award - I had recently read this Op-ed by Kudz - but then I recognized the names involved here and with a big sigh of relief, I started running a marathon. It was a great way to start the day! In fact, Happy Hour came much earlier than usual as a result, and it's showing promise as an all-nighter. 🥂 🍾 😜 Atsme 📣 📧 22:07, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Congratulations ! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:37, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Congratulations, and interesting, with the karma embellishment. North America1000 14:16, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Is this who we want to be?
The following quote by Diannaa nearly 7 years ago is filled with insight and compassion, and it certainly struck a cord with me because her words are applicable to more than just the case she addressed. I think they may apply to numerous situations across the entire WP community. May her words ring eternal. Atsme✍🏻📧 14:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this thread for a few days and noticed there are quite a few things mentioned here that Pumpkin Sky is being asked to do before he is allowed to return:
- speak to the community
- face the music
- admit his mistakes
- agree to learn to avoid his previous pitfalls
- apologize
- pave the road
- give his opponents a chance to get their ounce of blood or set conditions for his return
- "pay"/"own up"
- address the allegations
- willing to accept the consequences
- work to address all of the issues, both content and conduct-related
- explain Barking Moon's hostility
- seek redemption
- face whatever sanctions
- let people take their pound of flesh
- let people parade his sins out before the world
- let people know he is being punished
- needs to show remorse
- seek absolution
Is that really the kind of community we want to be? Is that really the kind of people we want to be? Or maybe we can trim this list down to things that are actually in line with the way civilised people behave, and are actually relevant to building an encyclopedia. Just my opinion. --Dianna (talk) 8:56 am, 14 April 2012, Saturday (6 years, 10 months, 18 days ago) (UTC−5)
- Marxism at its best. — JFG talk 14:36, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Capitalism sucks except when compared to everything else....or as Churchill said.--MONGO (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
I remember it well. The one blocked for months is my friend, was unblocked a few days later, is blocked now. O happy community. We wrote Franz Kafka together, and it fits so well ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks
Dear colleague Atsme,
I was very pleased with your words of encouragement. I live in South America, but I travel a little on this beautiful continent. You're right. Editing articles about South America was the way I found to know and publish information about South America.
Bye,
marcelo melo (talk) 20:48, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Pretty crafty, NA1000. You caught me completely off guard.Atsme Talk 📧 13:22, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- It worked! I put this together on the fly, sort of a weak layout, but yep, it is what it is. North America1000 15:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Northamerica1000, Anna Frodesiak...speaking of Articles for
DeathDeletion, I found this golden bit of information that would be an excellent accompaniment for the prune juice article. You may not give a flying flip about it, but what better day than today to start moving on it? Atsme Talk 📧 16:59, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Northamerica1000, Anna Frodesiak...speaking of Articles for
- It worked! I put this together on the fly, sort of a weak layout, but yep, it is what it is. North America1000 15:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Beautiful picture
I added a beautiful picture of me to your userpage. You are welcome!--MONGO (talk) 17:32, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Only a 500 lb. gorilla could get away with that, as you well know. Me thinks maybe you need a shave. Oh, and I'm going to let it sit there until tomorrow...or at least until I can come up with a proper
smartassreply. Atsme Talk 📧 20:14, 1 April 2019 (UTC)- Some might say it's an April Fools joke, but...its really me! And...I did shave!--MONGO (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Is this my queue to tell jokes about the Farmer's daughters...?? Atsme Talk 📧 23:52, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Some might say it's an April Fools joke, but...its really me! And...I did shave!--MONGO (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Sturgeon
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sturgeon you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Chiswick Chap. Atsme Talk 📧 19:13, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- In a spare moment I've blitzed the article to implement a good portion of my comments. Brilliant user/talk pages, btw. It's Easter shortly (happy bunnies, etc) - what is your timetable for this GAN? Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- thank you,
- Thank you, CC - wow! That's one blitz that really helped. Now that I've finished Cherry juice, I'll get on top of the GA. Should have it finished by today. Atsme Talk 📧 13:41, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Your AE comment
- [2]. I saw a lot of disputes like that. In Russian society that could be a discussion if "Crimea is ours", etc. This is not at all about "left" and "right" and even not about "politics". This is about two things: (a) moral values of participants in discussion, and (b) purely practical issues (for example, tax laws, state budget or government shutdown affect directly a lot of people). My very best wishes (talk) 14:50, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting perspective. Thanks for stopping by Mvbw. Atsme Talk 📧 15:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I just wanted to say that your comment was unhelpful. Personally, I do not see "AP2 fiasco" or "hatred" by any contributors. But regardless, if you see a problem (I do not see it), you are expected to suggests a solution, with appropriate justification on appropriate noticeboard. Otherwise, others are going to follow your example [3] and expose themselves to potential sanctions for Wikipedia:Casting aspersions. My very best wishes (talk) 17:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Interesting perspective. Thanks for stopping by Mvbw. Atsme Talk 📧 15:22, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
- We all have a POV, and now I know yours. Thanks for sharing. Perhaps this essay will prove more helpful. Atsme Talk 📧 19:39, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Hey, I've got a ton of Flickr files to upload to Commons, is there an automatic or at least-semi automatic way to do it?
And then just add categories or something.
Or someone being a bit of a weirdo who likes to do it manually, because I sure don't. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 20:09, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, there is a pretty easy way to upload them if they all have the same license. Talk to the Wizard - there is a "share images from Flickr" button on that page. It should be pretty simple. Atsme Talk 📧 20:13, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
So I heard, but I just really can't see it anywhere. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 20:15, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Oh, it's https://tools.wmflabs.org/flickr2commons/#/ apparently. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 20:16, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- How did you get there? Click on this link or does it bring up the link you just added? Atsme Talk 📧 20:18, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
The mystery "alternative upload methods" link. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 20:35, 17 April 2019 (UTC)