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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.
- If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, you do not need to list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
- If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. Place a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests.
- If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
- Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect.
- Redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted too, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)
Contents
- 1 Before listing a redirect for discussion
- 2 The guiding principles of RfD
- 3 When should we delete a redirect?
- 4 Closing notes
- 5 How to list a redirect for discussion
- 6 Current list
- 6.1 April 11
- 6.1.1 Template:Cv
- 6.1.2 Template:Lepidoptera (butterflies and moths)
- 6.1.3 Portal:North American Roads
- 6.1.4 Portal:Guided Missiles of India
- 6.1.5 Useras/Les Useres
- 6.1.6 Nunquam
- 6.1.7 Ghost (2011 film)
- 6.1.8 Eurasian Economic UnionEAEU
- 6.1.9 Template:Palace of Versailles
- 6.1.10 PutItToThePeople
- 6.1.11 2013's Tropical Storm Yagi
- 6.1.12 Hamburder
- 6.1.13 Mister Bone Saw
- 6.1.14 Lambda Omega sorority Norroena
- 6.1.15 Wikipedia:WEAK
- 6.2 April 10
- 6.2.1 Draft:"Trelawny:, Soldiers Hill, Ballarat
- 6.2.2 Touch (Bebe Rexha song)
- 6.2.3 /56 Nights
- 6.2.4 Motel Symphony
- 6.2.5 "John"
- 6.2.6 Shooting Star Summit
- 6.2.7 Dunne D.10
- 6.2.8 Eclipse Engine
- 6.2.9 Huricane
- 6.2.10 Conduction block
- 6.2.11 Industrial food
- 6.2.12 Ngāti Apa ki Te Rā Tō
- 6.2.13 Pradhan Mantri Fasal Bima Yojana
- 6.3 April 9
- 6.3.1 See list
- 6.3.2 Template:Three Men in a Boat
- 6.3.3 Hara (film)
- 6.3.4 The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich (Expanded and Updated)
- 6.3.5 Track 3
- 6.3.6 Scorpion (comics) Carmilla Black
- 6.3.7 Rocket Raccoon's
- 6.3.8 Janice Griffith
- 6.3.9 Portal:BodyBuilding
- 6.3.10 Archrivals of the UCF Knights
- 6.3.11 Portal:Josephites
- 6.4 April 8
- 6.4.1 Multiple redirections to userspace
- 6.4.2 Tropical Storm Vernon(1984)
- 6.4.3 Tropical Storm Wilda(1976)
- 6.4.4 Tropical Storm Wilda(1961)
- 6.4.5 Australian Royal
- 6.4.6 Havalimani Airport
- 6.4.7 Constantinople Airport
- 6.4.8 Byzantium Airport
- 6.4.9 Loaded Gun (Cher Lloyd song)
- 6.4.10 Driest continent
- 6.4.11 British from the European Union
- 6.4.12 Karl Ivanovich May
- 6.4.13 Tina Ballerina
- 6.4.14 Ragnar Larsson
- 6.5 April 7
- 6.5.1 List of People whose name is Ichiro
- 6.5.2 Brexit means Brexit does mean Brexit
- 6.5.3 Hey Girl (Justin Bieber song)
- 6.5.4 Forever Lost (Album)
- 6.5.5 Portal:British Overseas Territories
- 6.5.6 Palace of Westminster/images
- 6.5.7 Inert munition
- 6.5.8 Inert bomb
- 6.5.9 Pincushion flower
- 6.5.10 Portal:Music of Trinidad and Tobago/Related Trinidad and Tobago portals
- 6.5.11 Chainmail bikini
- 6.5.12 Destruction Duet
- 6.6 April 6
- 6.7 April 5
- 6.8 April 4
- 6.9 April 3
- 6.9.1 The Past is a Foreign Country
- 6.9.2 Captive audience meetings
- 6.9.3 Atatuerk
- 6.9.4 Hamburder
- 6.9.5 Cliveden Glade
- 6.9.6 Philippine Bausch
- 6.9.7 Template:RE
- 6.9.8 KFMASH
- 6.9.9 Mister Bone Saw
- 6.9.10 Greivous Bodyguard
- 6.9.11 Dark lord of the sith Darth Revan
- 6.9.12 Darth Revan's Force Ghost
- 6.9.13 Lumpy's stuffed bantha
- 6.9.14 Justice Medley
- 6.9.15 June 18, 1976
- 6.9.16 Delimar Vera
- 6.9.17 Lambda Omega sorority Norroena
- 6.9.18 Wikipedia:WEAK
- 6.9.19 Portal:Current events/Canada
- 6.1 April 11
Before listing a redirect for discussion
Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:
- Wikipedia:Redirect – what redirects are, why they exist, and how they are used.
- Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion – which pages can be deleted without discussion; in particular the "General" and "Redirects" sections.
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy – how we delete things by consensus.
- Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – guidelines on discussion format and shorthand.
The guiding principles of RfD
- The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
- Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
- If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion, the default result is delete.
- Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
- RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
- Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
- In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.
When should we delete a redirect?
The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:
- a redirect may contain nontrivial edit history;
- if a redirect is reasonably old (or a redirect is created as a result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is quite possible that its deletion will break links in old, historical versions of some other articles—such an event is very difficult to envision and even detect.
Additionally, there could exist (for example) links to the URL "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorneygate" anywhere on the Internet. If so, then those links might not show up by checking for (clicking on) "WhatLinksHere for Attorneygate"—since those links might come from somewhere outside Wikipedia.
Therefore consider the deletion only of either really harmful redirects or of very recent ones.
Reasons for deleting
You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
- The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
- The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
- The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 may apply.) See also: § Neutrality of redirects.
- The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
- The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting Apple to Orange. (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
- It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note "WP:" redirects are in the Wikipedia namespace, WP: being an alias for Wikipedia:.) Speedy deletion criterion R2 may also apply.
- If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to itself or to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8, though you should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first.
- If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects from a foreign language title to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.
- If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then it needs to be deleted to make way for move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
- If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
Reasons for not deleting
However, avoid deleting such redirects if:
- They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
- They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links.
- They aid searches on certain terms. For example, if someone sees the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but does not know what that refers to, then he or she will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
- You risk breaking incoming or internal links by deleting the redirect. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
- Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. The pageviews tool can also provide evidence of outside utility.
- The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.
- The redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and deleting the redirect would prevent unregistered and non-confirmed users from expanding the redirect, and thereby make the encyclopedia harder to edit and reduce the pool of available editors. (Unregistered and non-confirmed users cannot create new pages in the mainspace; they can only edit existing pages, including redirects, which they can expand.) This criterion does not apply to redirects that are indefinitely semi-protected or more highly protected.
Neutrality of redirects
Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names. Perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is therefore not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}
.
Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
- Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
- Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
- The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.
The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.
See also: Policy on which redirects can be deleted immediately.
Closing notes
- Details at: Administrator instructions for RfD.
Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).
How to list a redirect for discussion
I. | Tag the redirect.
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II. | List the entry on RfD.
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III. | Notify users.
It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors to the redirect that you are nominating the redirect. may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the redirect and use an edit summary such as: Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]
If the result might result in significant changes to other pages (e.g., changing the names of other pages, merging or splitting content), you can leave notices about the RFD discussion on relevant talk pages, too. |
- Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.
Current list
April 11
Template:Cv
- Template:Cv → Template:Uw-copyright (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Seems more appropriate to redirect to Template:Like resume, as CV is another name for resume. Launchballer 21:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Template:Lepidoptera (butterflies and moths)
- Template:Lepidoptera (butterflies and moths) → Lepidoptera (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete Strange cross-namespace redirect. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:02, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:North American Roads
- Portal:North American Roads → Portal:U.S. roads (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
From a page move but misleading. There are also roads in Canada, Mexico and other places that form North America Legacypac (talk) 19:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Guided Missiles of India
- Portal:Guided Missiles of India → Portal:Right-wing populism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
This was from a weird move "remake portal". Serves no use whatsoever. Also the redirect has unused subpages that should be deleted. Legacypac (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC) Legacypac (talk) 19:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Useras/Les Useres
![Keep](https://web.archive.org/web/20190411213903im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/White_check_mark_in_dark_green_rounded_square.svg/16px-White_check_mark_in_dark_green_rounded_square.svg.png)
Nunquam
- Nunquam → Robert Blatchford (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
It isn't clear why this redirects here, rather than, say, The Revolt of Aphrodite. --woodensuperman 14:59, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Ghost (2011 film)
- Ghost (2011 film) → Ghost (2012 film) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete. Film was not released until January 2012. PC78 (talk) 14:51, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Eurasian Economic UnionEAEU
- Eurasian Economic UnionEAEU → Eurasian Economic Union (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Implausible redirect - It consists of the phrase 'Eurasian Economic Union' followed directly by the abbreviation 'EAEU' with no spaces in between. JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 13:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Template:Palace of Versailles
- Template:Palace of Versailles → Template:Versailles (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
redirects to Template:Versailles, which is actually about Versailles (band), a Japanese visual kei metal band.
Note that this redirect was created by the now topic-banned portalspammer @The Transhumanist as the basis of Portal:Palace of Versailles. The portal is being discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Palace of Versailles, where I have explained the sequence of edits and their impact. In summary, this is one of the steps which led to a portal supposedly about the French palace to be filed with content about a Japanese band. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. The template is not about the palace. I think the creation of the portal is not really very relevant to the redirect though (if the redirect is deleted but the portal kept then the portal will need editing, but that's not a reason to keep or delete the redirect). Thryduulf (talk) 12:45, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Whether the original template is appropriate, since it could be assumed to be about the palace, is not the issue, but this redirect confuses things. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Repurpose. It seems to me that there may be a case for a navbox relating to the Palace of Versailles, as there are articles for a number of the rooms, etc, etc. See Category:Palace of Versailles for some of the articles that could be included. --woodensuperman 15:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment say what? (Commmenting on the template not the last comment.) Legacypac (talk) 15:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment the full set, over the period April '18 to Feb. '19, of this user's template redirect creations and template moves falls squarely into the "you'll spit out your coffee" category. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
PutItToThePeople
- PutItToThePeople → People's Vote#Campaign activities (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Unlikely to be used without spacing B dash (talk) 06:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
2013's Tropical Storm Yagi
- 2013's Tropical Storm Yagi → 2013 Pacific typhoon season#Tropical Storm Yagi (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- 2012's Tropical Storm Wukong → 2012 Pacific typhoon season#Tropical Storm Wukong (Quinta) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Implausible redirect. Not a formal written form for tropical cyclones. Tropical Storm Yagi (2013) and Tropical Storm Wukong (2012) already existed. B dash (talk) 03:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose (at least without a better reason to delete). At least one editor has used that form. If the redirects are deleted then any pages linking to them should be fixed (i.e. avoid them becoming redlinks). (Redirect creator) DexDor (talk) 05:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep these don't seem implausible as search terms. Thryduulf (talk) 12:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Hamburder
- Hamburder → Donald Trump on social media#Satire, archives, and reactions (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Nothing in the target article explains, or even mentions, the term. PamD 17:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
P45 misspelled hamburger as hamberder on twitter when he hosted the Clemson football team.[1] It became a meme, similar to covfefe.[2] 53zodiac (talk) 17:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Hamburger as a {{R from misspelling}}. Given that the redirect is a misspelling of a misspelling, it would make sense to point it to the original meaning over the misspelled meaning. -- Tavix (talk) 17:47, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep only Trump would make this mistake. The error made it to an SNL sketch. Anyone searching this specifically will be well served at the target. Legacypac (talk) 22:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment it needs to be mentioned in the social media article for it to have a meaningful redirect, otherwise it could be a portmanteau of hamburger and murder, which is something completely different. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:59, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Edited article Donald Trump on social media#Satire, archives, and reactions to include reference to SNL "hamburder" gameshow 53zodiac (talk) 16:45, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- SNL spelled it the same way Trump did, which was "Hamberders", not "Hamburders". -- Tavix (talk) 20:40, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- A misspelling of a misspelling is simply nitpicking. News websites have used both hamberder and hamburder in articles about P45, and most people who search for "hamburder" on wikipedia would expect to find some info on Trump.[3] [4] [5] Keep. 53zodiac (talk) 00:25, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 02:53, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget per Tavix, or delete per nom. This meme got nowhere near as much
covfefecoverage as covfefe did. Iffy★Chat -- 13:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Mister Bone Saw
- Mister Bone Saw → Mohammad bin Salman (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
deletion, this redirect implies offensive phrase about a living person Biographies of living persons Motqen (talk) 15:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: The phrase "Mister Bone Saw" as applied to the article's subject is mentioned and explained in the article with appropriate citations, including one from the New York Times. Dylanexpert (talk) 16:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep a recognized nickname. He is a dictator so I'm not too concerned with the negative nature of the nickname. Legacypac (talk) 22:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Whether the target is a dictator or not is irrelevant. Every subject is entitled to equal treatment under NPOV and (where relevant) BLP. This nickname is ok as a redirect as it is established and verified, any other nicknames for them which are not established and verified would not be ok, regardless of our opinions about the subject as a person. Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Stop following me around and acting like a troll. Legacypac (talk) 05:45, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Please stop accusing those who disagree with you of being disruptive and similar. I did not follow you here (it's quite possible I've commented on more RfD discussions than any other user in the history of the project if you know how to calculate the statistic I'd like to know if my guess is correct), and there is nothing inappropriate or even unusual in responding to another editor's comment in a deletion discussion noting that they've misinterpreted a policy/guideline/etc and explaining why. Thryduulf (talk) 10:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Stop following me around and acting like a troll. Legacypac (talk) 05:45, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
DeleteThe title contains an offensive phrase, uses non-neutral terms and violate the encyclopedic content of Wikipedia.(see WP:RNEUTRAL) Motqen (talk) 03:55, 4 April 2019 (UTC)Keep. Nickname is sourced in the target. Sam Sailor 07:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC) !vote changed to retarget to anchor, see below. Sam Sailor 07:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)- Keep per Sam and Dylanexpert. WP:RNEUTRAL actually permits uses like this - "In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term." Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to section Mohammad bin Salman#Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi, where the term is mentioned. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retargeting is a a good idea. But instead of an {{R to section}} to Mohammad bin Salman#Assassination of Jamal Khashoggi, I would suggest we redirect as an {{R to anchor}} (and we could add an
{{subst:anchor comment}}
), that is a more stable solution. I'm also open for placing the anchor directly above the sentence per WP:LINKPART. Courtesy ping (Dylanexpert—Legacypac—Thryduulf—King of Hearts). Sam Sailor 07:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- You lost me cause I don't know how to do that, but sounds good. Legacypac (talk) 07:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- I would support a redirect to the appropriate sentence. Dylanexpert (talk) 20:52, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 02:52, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Lambda Omega sorority Norroena
- Lambda Omega sorority Norroena → Theta Upsilon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Created for Research for the Lambda Omega sorority which started as Norroena and which eventually folded into Theta Upsilon. Article on Lambda Omega has been created since which goes into this. Naraht (talk) 16:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Lambda Omega per nom. It's explained at both articles but going immediately to Theta Upsilon would be a bit of a surprise. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Implausible search term under the current title: (sorority name) + "sorority" + (former club name). -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:52, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 06:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget per AngusWOOF. Thryduulf (talk) 10:00, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per King of. There is no usage of this specific phrase outside of Wikipedia. -- Tavix (talk) 13:41, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 02:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WEAK
- Wikipedia:WEAK → Wikipedia:A weak personal attack is still wrong (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I attempted to retarget this unused shortcut, and created a new one for the current target, but those changes were reverted, apparently for the sole reason that they were not discussed first [6] so here we are. Neither essay is high-impact, but, despite what is implied in the message I received, nothing was harmed because the shortcut had never been used, and I simply think it makes more sense redirected to the WP:STRONG page, and I created WP:WEAKPA as a new, more specific shortcut for the other essay. (note that the previous RFD on this redirect predates the creation of either essay and is therefore not relevant.) Beeblebrox (talk) 01:55, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget as originally proposed: it's hardly an
established shortcut
when it's unused, and the proposed changes would appear to be both an improvement and sensible. ——SerialNumber54129 12:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC) - Keep The original configuraiton aids searches (#3), is useful (#5), and is closely related to the word form of the essay (#6). The redirect has been in place to its original essay since July 2017, and points to an essay that has been around just as long. That original essay has been edited by 18 unique editors (I am the original author) and is included on Template:Civility, showing that it has support in the community. Over 800 pages link to the original essay and until yesterday WP:WEAK was its only shortcut. The new proposed target hasn't even been around three months, only has one author, and has links to 14 pages (and it appears that some of those are older than the three months) Such a change is disruptive to Wikipedia and should be avoided. Plus, as this page states: "Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect."--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:42, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, let's look at those arguments one by one:
- I can't see how it aids searches since it is unused, there is no reason to belive the new shortcut I made is any less helpful, and in fact more clearly refers to that specifc essay.
- How many people have edited each essay does not seem the least bit relevant, neither is the relative age of the two essays as all we are talking about here is where the redirect should point.
- There is nothing disruptive about changing a redirect that isn't linked anywhere, which is what is proposed here, not deletion.
- I think that about covers it...Beeblebrox (talk) 00:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Response very simple, actually...
- It aids in searches for editors who remember the shortcut keyword WEAK which is already established. Just because the shortcut link itself is not embedded in other content does not mean that it isn't used or useful--best practice is to avoid the use of redirects if at all possible when editing. Plus the daily pageviews on the essay's talk page show that it gains a good amount of traffic. Plus, the shortcut averages about 10 pageviews per month according to statistics. Certainly not a huge volume, but definitely not "unused" by any stretch.
- The number of people involved in the essay is extraordinarily relevant. Sure, I was the original author but other editors have found it valuable enough to contribute to the essay--to mold it and shape it into something more driven by consensus; the new essay is nothing more than the contributions of one editor (plus now a grammatical error change from a second). It's not in the Template:Wikipedia essays so it's not really gaining any ground.
- It's disruptive because the established essay has the history, and users of that essay would have to remember a different search term. For that reason, we don't move shortcuts without first having a discussion. The "apartment" (so to speak) is already occupied.
- Another point--The new essay is strikingly similar to the shortcuts WP:JUSTAVOTE and WP:NOREASON that redirect to Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. This essay section contains the exact same concept as the proposed target essay and therefore seems redundant and should probably be deleted or merged. The same ideas are already expressed in another place with established shortcuts. There's no need to change the shortcuts because one editor wrote the same thing in a separate essay. That, too, can be disruptive. I think it may be best to consider deletion of the new proposed destination, or possibly merging the content to the larger and more widely accepted essay.
- Still another point: checking the history of the proposed essay, we can see that the original author did not think much of this essay during its creation. Comments like "may write more later but this is basically it" and "shortcut to this highly important essay" show a sense of apathy toward its creation. The "weak" references weren't even added until yesterday (after the original author let the essay sit untouched for several months). It doesn't look like there's much enthusiasm at all for this work from its lone author.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:50, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- One more comment, I do not get a sense of any "bad faith" here -- I believe that the proposed changes are made in good faith, I just believe that they should not be executed.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:36, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just FYI: you come across as being very condescending, starting with your talk page message to me, right up to this last remark. I'm not usually a fan of pissing contests but for the record I've been an admin for nearly a decade and on the functionaries team since 2010, not some new user who just doesn't know what's going on as you seem to keep implying. So, let's not make this personal, because it isn't, it's a discussion about a redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- If so, I apologize. I don't think I could be more polite. I made no presumption about any history of your editing, but I must point out that there is no WP:SENIORITY on Wikipedia and the best argument should be used regardless of its source. The points I have presented still stand.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- There's no seniority; but experience is a tangible thing. As Beeblebrox is trying to tell you :) ——SerialNumber54129 13:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- All of these personal comments about experience are variations of WP:ADHOM (arguments to the person), specifically listed as arguments to avoid in deletion discussions.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Suggest WP:BLUDGEON is also required reading. ——SerialNumber54129 17:19, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- All of these personal comments about experience are variations of WP:ADHOM (arguments to the person), specifically listed as arguments to avoid in deletion discussions.--Paul McDonald (talk) 16:31, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- There's no seniority; but experience is a tangible thing. As Beeblebrox is trying to tell you :) ——SerialNumber54129 13:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- If so, I apologize. I don't think I could be more polite. I made no presumption about any history of your editing, but I must point out that there is no WP:SENIORITY on Wikipedia and the best argument should be used regardless of its source. The points I have presented still stand.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:48, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just FYI: you come across as being very condescending, starting with your talk page message to me, right up to this last remark. I'm not usually a fan of pissing contests but for the record I've been an admin for nearly a decade and on the functionaries team since 2010, not some new user who just doesn't know what's going on as you seem to keep implying. So, let's not make this personal, because it isn't, it's a discussion about a redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Response very simple, actually...
- Well, let's look at those arguments one by one:
- Retarget to Wikipedia:Strong as it makes more sense and WP:WEAKPA is fine for the other essay.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:16, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Why take an existing term? if WP:WEAKPA is good for the one that's already established, why not use WP:WEAKVOTE and WP:STRONGVOTE for the newer one? that makes more sense than messing up what already exists.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget, but to Wikipedia:Adjectives in your recommendations. Do the same with WP:STRONG. Maybe to a section? The essay title Wikipedia:Strong is in itself not descriptive, and what is said in Wikipedia:Strong is more or less already said in the old essay Wikipedia:Adjectives in your recommendations to where I suggest we merge Wikipedia:Strong per WP:REDUNDANTESSAY. WP:WEAKPA looks fine as a shortcut to Wikipedia:A weak personal attack is still wrong. Courtesy ping (Beeblebrox—Paulmcdonald—Pawnkingthree). Sam Sailor 08:49, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- That one has been around since 2006, but it already has 3 shortcuts. Plus and minus.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- On this we agree, that old essay has enough shortcuts already, it doesn't need two more. It also strikes me as a little long-winded, when this new one is deliberately short and to the point, which jives witht he whole idea of just saying what you have to say without going overboard. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:39, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- It may be worthwhile to postpone this discussion until after discussing merging the final destination of the two similar essays in question. That way we have a community decision.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- On this we agree, that old essay has enough shortcuts already, it doesn't need two more. It also strikes me as a little long-winded, when this new one is deliberately short and to the point, which jives witht he whole idea of just saying what you have to say without going overboard. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:39, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- That one has been around since 2006, but it already has 3 shortcuts. Plus and minus.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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April 10
Draft:"Trelawny:, Soldiers Hill, Ballarat
- Draft:"Trelawny:, Soldiers Hill, Ballarat → Trelawny, Black Hill, Ballarat (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "List of the works of Charles Cottet depicting scenes of Brittany" → List of the works of Charles Cottet (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "List of the works of Charles Cottet depicting scenes of Brittany → List of the works of Charles Cottet (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes (season 9) → Naruto: Shippuden (season 9) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes (season 8) → Naruto: Shippuden (season 8) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Lewis & Clark: Great Journey West" → Lewis & Clark: Great Journey West (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Japan Cable Radio Award" → Japan Cable Awards (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Experiential Interior Design" → Experiential interior design (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Death Valley Expedition" → The Death Valley expedition (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Devon Great Consols" → Devon Great Consols (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Design that Matters" → Design that Matters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Detroit Public School's Book Depository" → Roosevelt Warehouse (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Harrison v. National Association for the Advancement of Colored People" → Harrison v. NAACP (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Dirty World Entertainment Recordings LLC" → Jones v. Dirty World Entertainment Recordings LLC (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Grande Oriente do Brasil" → Grande Oriente do Brasil (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "English Grammar In Use (book)" → English Grammar in Use (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Dallas Fantasy Fair" → Dallas Fantasy Fair (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Court of Appeal of Prince Edward Island" → Court of Appeal of Prince Edward Island (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Cougar Software" → Cougar Software (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Control fraud theory" → Control fraud (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Concordia Lutheran Junior College" → Concordia University Ann Arbor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Brigham Young Family Cemetery" → Mormon Pioneer Memorial Monument (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Common law legal systems in the present day → Common law#Common law legal systems in the present day (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Come Dance with Me (song) → Come Dance with Me (song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Civil Authority for the New Sudan" → Civil Authority for the New Sudan (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Charlie Martell" → Charlie Martell (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Cecilia Peniston" → CeCe Peniston (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "Callatis" Theoretical High School → Callatis Theoretical High School (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- "A Comparison of Breastfeeding Rates by Country" → Breastfeeding#Prevalence (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete Unnecessary (and some malformed) quotation marks. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:19, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment/Question: @UnitedStatesian: Have you by chance verified if the versions of these redirects without quotation mark(s) exist (for the ones where the redirect's target is not the non-quotation equivalent)? Steel1943 (talk) 18:56, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- In the handful of cases where the non-quotation equivalent is not the target, it is a mixed bag: some exist, some don't; I am not convinced the non-quotation equivalents are necessarily valid rediirects either in all cases. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete all Mistakenly made articles that are unlikely links or search constructions. Reywas92Talk 19:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget Concordia Lutheran Junior College to Concordia University (disambiguation). I've moved the one with the quotes, so the original mistaken redirect can be deleted. The non-quoted version should be kept and retargeted. There were several Concordia Lutheran junior colleges (Ann Arbor, Fort Wayne, Austin, among others) so it's a reasonable redirect for people looking for the history of one of these Lutheran institutions. I have no opinion on the other redirects. schetm (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Schetm: Concordia Lutheran Junior College is not nominated here: "Concordia Lutheran Junior College" is. You could either make the change WP:BOLDly if that change is not controversial, or feel free to nominate Concordia Lutheran Junior College in a separate nomination. Steel1943 (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- The non-quotes version was nominated for deletion at the time of this revision, but it no longer is. The quotes version can now be safely deleted. schetm (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Schetm: Concordia Lutheran Junior College is not nominated here: "Concordia Lutheran Junior College" is. You could either make the change WP:BOLDly if that change is not controversial, or feel free to nominate Concordia Lutheran Junior College in a separate nomination. Steel1943 (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Touch (Bebe Rexha song)
- Touch (Bebe Rexha song) → All Your Fault: Pt. 1 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Not mentioned on target page, artist's page or discography. Richhoncho (talk) 16:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
/56 Nights
- /56 Nights → 56 Nights (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Charles Gaines (artist) → Charles Gaines (artist) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Charles Gaines (Artist) → Charles Gaines (artist) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Ljudmila Plesničar Gec → Ljudmila Plesničar Gec (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Biomolecular Gradients → Biomolecular gradient (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Billboard Hot 100 → Billboard Hot 100 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /anatabine → Anatabine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Wheelchair Sports NSW → Wheelchair Sports NSW (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Union Park Gardens → Union Park Gardens, Wilmington, Delaware (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Thomas Heftyes Gate (Oslo) → Thomas Heftyes gate (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Teaterladan, Hedemora → Hedemora Gamla Theater (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Ruben Katsobashvili (businessman) → Ruben Katsobashvili (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Myeloid-derived Suppressor Cell → Myeloid-derived suppressor cell (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Louisiana Channel → Louisiana Channel (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /List of Parliament of Australia Reports on Sport → List of Parliament of Australia Reports on Sport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Intestinal mucosal barrier → Intestinal mucosal barrier (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- /Billboard 200 → Billboard 200 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete These redirects with the leading forward slash are obvious errors. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete all. Obvious errors as per UnitedStatesian.Onel5969 TT me 15:53, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Comment: I can only speak for the /Teaterladan, Hedemora. It was created to get around an error in QRpedia that has been present since November. It seems, however, that the bug does only affect all other language versions, not enwp. I have therefore no objections to a deletion on this language version. Vivo (talk) 20:15, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete all. None of these appear to have been created for any specific purpose, and none of them seem like valid search terms. Most of them fall under WP:G6 as leftovers from page moves. PC78 (talk) 14:44, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Motel Symphony
- Motel Symphony → Cher Lloyd discography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
No mention at target, the artists page, the two albums released or the tour page. No other WP entries for the term I could find. Richhoncho (talk) 14:11, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Subject appears to have been a song that was leaked in 2016 but was never made publicly or legally available. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
"John"
I think I've seen redirects-in-quotation-marks discussed before in RFD, and deleted. I came across this one as an ambiguous link to a song, which I replaced by a link to "[[John (Someone's song)|John]]" to one or other of the entries on the DAB page. Delete. Narky Blert (talk) 11:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Shooting Star Summit
- Shooting Star Summit → Paper Mario (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
non-notable video game location not mentioned at the target Druaga2 (talk) 10:48, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - not mentioned in the target, would suggest retargeting if there were a list of Mario locations or some such, but can't find any reference to it.Onel5969 TT me 15:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Dunne D.10
- Dunne D.10 → Dunne D.8 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete to encourage article creation. D.10 is not mentioned at the target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I have now added it to the target and given a reference. A standalone article is unlikely, as so little is known about it. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 09:52, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Eclipse Engine
- Eclipse Engine → BioWare#Eclipse Engine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Two "Eclipse Engine"s exist, one by Digital Eclipse and one by BioWare. I don't think either is more notable than the other, and the redirect should possibly be deleted. Lordtobi (✉) 06:10, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Pick this one to be primary topic redirect and put a hatnote there. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:56, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep and add a hatnote as this seems to be the primary topic (the only thing that seems to come close is (parts for) engines for the Mitsubishi Eclipse), but if you disagree that there is one then the redirect should be changed to a disambiguation page. There is certainly no case for deletion here. Thryduulf (talk) 09:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Huricane
- Huricane → Tropical cyclone (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Seems like an implausible misspelling/typo. CycloneYoris talk! 03:35, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Missing a letter is an entirely plausible misspelling, in my opinion. —Hugh (talk) 03:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per above. PrussianOwl (talk) 05:07, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. "Huricane" for "Hurricane" is a very plausible misspelling - see as just one example The Irish Times. The redirect got 101 hits in the 30 days prior to this nomination and 1253 last year, again demonstrating its plausibility. Thryduulf (talk) 09:47, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Totally plausible misspelling. Steel1943 (talk) 18:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per the above. NoahTalk 17:03, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Conduction block
- Conduction block → Heart block (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Delete - conduction block is not exclusive for heart block. It can also refer to block of nerve conduction in other tissues (examples [7] [8]) Coming from the link in Neuromuscular-blocking_drug, current redirection confuses the reader. ycanerol 16:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Nerve block - don't see why that wasn't just done in the first place. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 22:44, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Disambig could refer to nerve, heart and possibly more. I don't think there's a clear primary target here; would lean towards heart if had to choose. --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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Industrial food
- Industrial food → Food industry (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Somewhat derogatory, odd redirect PrussianOwl (talk) 04:04, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- We might consider Convenience food, where Processed food redirects, though I don't know if that's really a synonym ("tertiary processed food" is the bolded term in the lede). --BDD (talk) 14:50, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Disambig. The first hit on google is for a textbook [9] which defines the term as "foods that are mass produced in a factory setting and require no or very little cooking to make them edible. These foods are also packaged which make them highly portable." which closely matches the lead of Convenience food and the examples have a lot of overlap with our article. The rest of the hits on the next few pages are for a mix of processed food, Industrial agriculture and either the "industrial food system" (the food supply chain starting with intensive agriculture and ending in supermarkets, either as processed food or mass-produced fresh foods) or a part of that system - which seems best covered by our Food industry article. Accordingly I think a dab page listing Food industry, Convenience food (via Processed food), Intensive farming (via Industrial agriculture) and Factory farming (maybe with a see also to Agribusiness) would be the best bet. Thryduulf (talk) 11:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Disambig as suggested makes sense to me--they are all possible meanings. DGG ( talk ) 11:36, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to convenience food as more-or-less synonymous. Anything else is a reach. -- Tavix (talk) 13:20, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- note I've drafted a disambiguation page below the redirect. If the consensus is to retarget (which per above I disagree with) then this should be moved to Industrial food (disambiguation) and a hatnote added. Thryduulf (talk) 14:01, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Nothing links to it; it isn't in use. Let whoever happens to use that phrase in an article and who happens to want it to mean something specific pipe a link to whatever that is. I don't believe a disambiguation is the way to go, as some of the proposed possible meanings in the dab at this moment [10] are definitely too much of a reach. Softlavender (talk) 09:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Ngāti Apa ki Te Rā Tō
- Ngāti Apa ki Te Rā Tō → Ngāti Apa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete. The article at Ngāti Apa ki Te Rā Tō should be a redlink for now. Ngāti Apa (website), the target of this redirect, is not the same iwi as Ngāti Apa ki Te Rā Tō (website). —Hugh (talk) 01:37, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Pradhan Mantri Fasal Bima Yojana
- Pradhan Mantri Fasal Bima Yojana → Agricultural insurance in India (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete redirect to create the new page for Pradhan Mantri Fasal Bima Yojana which redirects to Agricultural insurance in India. Pradhan Mantri Fasal Bima Yojana is special insurance scheme in agriculture sector and its a big deal and needs a separate article. Rocknstone (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
April 9
See list
Delete Bot creation. Presumably the source used by the bot had a non-standard value in a field parsed by the bot. Plantdrew (talk) 22:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This is the sort of thing that's trivially easy for a human to detect but really quite difficult for a bot. Thryduulf (talk) 23:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:57, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Template:Three Men in a Boat
- Template:Three Men in a Boat → Template:Jerome K. Jerome (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I believe that this redirect should be deleted. The result of Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_16#Template:Three_Men_in_a_Boat was merge. However, when templates that I have created for similar subject areas have been up for discussion, the result has generally been to merge the content and delete the page. There is obviously a trivial edit history involved as an artifact, but that has not been an issue in similar TFD and CSD outcomes. N. B. Three Men in a Boat (1920 film) is the only article space use of this redirect and it should just be replaced by the target like all other uses have been.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:14, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- The following individuals were involved in the aforementioned TFD @BrownHairedGirl, JarrahTree, Legacypac, Chiswick Chap, and JJMC89:-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral. I don't really care either way, but I see nothing in WP:RFD#DELETE to support deletion, and WP:RFD#KEEP.1 seem seems to support retention. But after the wikilawyering WP:OWNership shitstorm which TonyTheTiger created over the merger, I have already spent waaay too much time on this damn template, so do whatever. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:38, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. The template was merged so the edit history should be retained. I don't see any basis for deletion. PC78 (talk) 16:43, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I'm confused by this request Legacypac (talk) 09:13, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment nothing in article space should be using this redirect. So I don't see why its history is worth keeping. It seems counter to most other mergers of template content that I have seen.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:53, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Hara (film)
- Hara (film) → Soundarya Rajinikanth (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
As far as I can gather, Hara was an early title for Dheera which is a now-shelved film by this director. Given that this abandoned project isn't mentioned at all in the target article, I don't see how this redirect is useful, especially as it has no significant history. PC78 (talk) 14:54, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Hara (2014 film) and then swap those redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 15:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich (Expanded and Updated)
- The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich (Expanded and Updated) → The 4-Hour Workweek (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I declined a WP:R3 speedy on this, as this is the full title of the latest edition of the book, so not "blatantly implausible" per the CSD criteria. Nevertheless, I don't think anyone's ever going to type this complete title, with brackets, into the search box - they'll get as far as the first four words and find the main article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep the full title is always going to be a plausible redirect, especially as there are very many more ways to find Wikipedia articles than typing the title into a search box that has search suggestions. In this case it's most likely going to be used by copy and pasting or by following a link. Thryduulf (talk) 12:25, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Track 3
- Track 3 → 1989 (Taylor Swift album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Doesn't seem to make sense- I'm sure many albums have tracks number three. TheKaphox T 10:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, Based on A Totally Serious Analysis of Taylor Swift's Genre-Defying 8 Seconds of Static, 'Track 3' the explanation is an iTunes glitch (maybe only affecting Canada?) so it is not implausible. It is however, not useful as there is no mention of this in the article at all. There is also a 2014 short drama by this title (I haven't assessed it for notability), but the most prominent use on en.wp is ISO/IEC 7813#Track 3 but virtually everybody searching for this would be confused to arrive there. Thryduulf (talk) 12:38, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete useless as all albums have one Legacypac (talk) 09:15, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Scorpion (comics) Carmilla Black
- Scorpion (comics) Carmilla Black → Scorpion (Carmilla Black) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Butchered disambiguation, no value as a redirect. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:34, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Rocket Raccoon's
- Rocket Raccoon's → Rocket Raccoon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I believe that possessives for names are typically deleted unless the target is a business. This is a fictional character so the redirect is of no value. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Janice Griffith
- Janice Griffith → Cane_Hill_(band)#Controversy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete per criterion #10, as "the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject." Furthermore, it is exceedingly unlikely that someone searching for this individual would be looking specifically for this Cane Hill controversy. BLP concerns. 24.185.5.61 (talk) 05:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep, retarget or create article - Keep per WP:CHEAP, retarget, or create the article. If the article can be created, then it should be created. If there is a better target, then retarget. If not, then keep it where it is. --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:32, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - subject is mentioned in target article, plausible search term. And as Jax 0677 says, if you do not want the redirect, and feel an article would pass notability criteria, feel free to create one. Or find a better target. Onel5969 TT me 12:50, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:BodyBuilding
- Portal:BodyBuilding → Portal:Bodybuilding (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Very implausible search string and inappropriate for linking. Legacypac (talk) 17:49, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't understand why this is implausible? Redirects exist for far more reasons than just linking. Thryduulf (talk) 19:02, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as the CamelCase is not helpful in this instance for searching, history, or any of the other reasons besides linking that give redirects their utility and in fact is WP:COSTLY. Note this one was a contested speedy. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I've seen this capitalization in the wild. The fact that it was created shows that someone found it useful. All in all, a very minor modification, so this one is likely fine. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:48, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- I find your argument unconvincing and as you are the Admin who went out of their way to reverse a bunch of other Admin accepts of my tagging of recently created implausable portal redirects, I find your vote to be WP:INVOLVED Legacypac (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- WP:INVOLVED involves an admin action. Participating in an RFC isn't an admin action, although closing it would be. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:00, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- I have no intention of using my admin tools to close this RFD, especially since I also !voted, which would be an actual violation of WP:INVOLVED. Merely commenting on a matter I have previously used my tools on is okay. As for reversing RHaworth's deletions, while I agree and was planning on accepting most of the G7 requests, my own review of your tags found that many of them were invalid. The G7 authorization by Dreamy Jazz was only for semi-automatically created portals, not the redirects, which they made clear on their talk page when asked to clarify after this whole series of events started. So even if we accept your incorrect statement that everything in portalspace is a portal and ignore Dreamy Jazz's explicit , the redirects still wouldn't fall under the G7 authorization because they weren't semi-automatically created. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- I find your argument unconvincing and as you are the Admin who went out of their way to reverse a bunch of other Admin accepts of my tagging of recently created implausable portal redirects, I find your vote to be WP:INVOLVED Legacypac (talk) 16:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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Archrivals of the UCF Knights
- Archrivals of the UCF Knights → UConn Huskies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Proposing to delete. This redirect is helpful to no one and is most likely a joke referencing the maligned "Civil Conflict", a "rivalry" between UCF and UConn that never really existed Ostealthy (talk) 01:53, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; seems to be a joke. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:28, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Ha, ha, very funny, but not appropriate. I'd suggest a retarget to the ConFLiCT article, but UCF actually does have a rival in South Florida. Best to just delete this. Smartyllama (talk) 19:34, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom, interestingly though it dates back to 2006 much earlier than the series.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 01:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Josephites
- Portal:Josephites → Portal:Latter Day Saints (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Portal:Prairie Saints → Portal:Latter Day Saints (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
A couple weird portal redirects. Not meantioned at the target, not used in linking and not a very likely search term when you know you are looking for the church name. I'm reasonably familiar with the LDS Church and I've never heard these terms before. Legacypac (talk) 00:27, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Prairie Saints exists as a redirect to List of denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement#Prairie Saints. There is no section by that name in the article, but it is an anchor for the "Other lineages of succession" section which begins "Those churches rejecting Brigham Young's leadership, in favor of some other claimant. These adherents are occasionally referred to, collectively, as "Prairie Saints."" Josephites is a disambiguation page, Josephite (Latter Day Saints) is a redirect to List of denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement#Followers of Joseph Smith III. The terms are therefore related to the Latter Day Saints portal as subtopics and so are not completely implausible. Several other of the entries on the Josephites disambiguation page strike me as being at least equally plausible subtopics of portals as the LDS is but (a) this is complete guess as religion is very much not my area of expertise, and (b) I have no idea if any of them are covered by any current portal. Thryduulf (talk) 13:03, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've left a message about this discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement. Thryduulf (talk) 13:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. These are denominations not directly covered by the portal in question. -- Tavix (talk) 13:46, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Portal:Josephites. After thinking more about this, I believe the ambiguity of this outweighs the small utility it has a sub-topic redirect. I'm currently still neutral regarding Portal:Prairie Saints. Thryduulf (talk) 20:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
April 8
Multiple redirections to userspace
- User:Philip J Fry/Bajo las riendas del amor → Bajo las riendas del amor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User talk:Philip J Fry/Bajo las riendas del amor → Talk:Bajo las riendas del amor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User:Philip J Fry/Despertar contigo → Despertar contigo (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User:Philip J Fry/Hasta que te conocí → Hasta que te conocí (TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User:Philip J Fry/La piloto → La Piloto (season 2) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User:Philip J Fry/List of Sin senos sí hay paraíso characters → List of Sin senos sí hay paraíso characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User:Philip J Fry/Sueño de amor (2016 telenovela) → Sueño de amor (2016 TV series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- User:Philip J Fry/Vas A Querer Volver → Vas A Querer Volver (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Unnecessary redirects, since possibly infringe CNR the relation between pages with different namespaces is not advisable or because contribute neither function in the Wikipedia and no other page redirects her.
They is also a non-existent user who does not belong to this Wikipedia. The other user that redirects it, has been retired permanently from the English Wikipedia per an indefinite block in the Spanish Wikipedia. 45.224.108.254 22:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment redirects from user subpages to mainspace do not violate WP:CNR (see point 9 of arguments for keeping section) and were this in the userspace of an extant user my recommendation would be a strong keep. However, as things are they are neither particuarly useful nor at all harmful. Thryduulf (talk) 20:14, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: These redirects do not contribute any benefit to the project, as they do not have any page that link them (only to the pages of: Redirects of discussion and derivatives). Only they are userpage, that redirected towards the mainspace, whose pages were possibly created by a old user name (mentioned in the redirects titles, which currently does not exist), interpreting the increase of 'ego' of the same, giving it ownership over them. Sorry for my bad English. 45.228.254.166 19:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Tropical Storm Vernon(1984)
- Tropical Storm Vernon(1984) → 1984 Pacific typhoon season#Tropical Storm Vernon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
The final of three redirects I found today which are not properly written. Title has no space between name of the storm and the year. Properly titled redirect already exists which is Tropical Storm Vernon (1984), so there is no reason why we should keep this. CycloneYoris talk! 22:03, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, WP:G6 should apply to this one as it's "a redirect left over from moving a page that was obviously created at the wrong title". Doesn't seem useful to me. PC78 (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete WP:COSTLY. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Tropical Storm Wilda(1976)
- Tropical Storm Wilda(1976) → 1976 Pacific typhoon season#Tropical Storm Wilda (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Another incorrectly spelled redirect created by the same user. No space between name of the storm and the year in which it occurred. Redirect with proper title already exists which is Tropical Storm Wilda (1976), so I see no reason why we should keep this one. CycloneYoris talk! 21:54, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, doesn't seem useful to me. PC78 (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete WP:COSTLY. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Tropical Storm Wilda(1961)
- Tropical Storm Wilda(1961) → 1961 Pacific typhoon season#Tropical Storm Wilda (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Incorrectly spelled redirect. Title has no space between the name of the storm and the year, which is an obvious typo. Another redirect with the proper title already exists which is, Tropical Storm Wilda (1961), so there is no reason to keep this one. CycloneYoris talk! 21:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Australian Royal
- Australian Royal → Australian dollar#History (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
May be confused with Monarchy of Australia B dash (talk) 09:00, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Monarch of Australia as that's the primary topic (excluding partial title matches for various Australian royal commissions). A hatnote along the lines of Australian Royal redirects here, for the proposed currency see Australian dollar §History should be added to the target. Thryduulf (talk) 12:17, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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Havalimani Airport
- Havalimani Airport → Istanbul Airport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
This literally means "Airport Airport" and is not specific to Istanbul. feminist (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. There is no evidence the airport is known by this name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete No evidence this or any other airport is actually called this. Smartyllama (talk) 15:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Constantinople Airport
- Constantinople Airport → Istanbul Airport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Ridiculous. Airports aren't a concept at the time when the city was known as "Constantinople". Before anyone argues about the merits of someone wanting to visit a place previously known as Constantinople, I'd note that usage for this redirect is minimal at best. feminist (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. There is no evidence the airport is known by this name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:09, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Istanbul Airport (disambiguation) or List of airports in Turkey as some of the airports on that list were in existence while the city was still known as Constantinople, but the current target is not one of them, having opened in 2018. Smartyllama (talk) 19:39, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Byzantium Airport
- Byzantium Airport → Istanbul Airport (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Ridiculous redirect. Airports aren't a concept at the time when the city was known as "Byzantium". feminist (talk) 16:58, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. There is no evidence the airport is known by this name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:10, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Loaded Gun (Cher Lloyd song)
- Loaded Gun (Cher Lloyd song) → Cher Lloyd discography (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
No mention at target, either album released or on artist's WPpage. Richhoncho (talk) 16:40, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Driest continent
- Driest continent → Antarctica (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
This should probably be retargeted to a list of continents or something, because many continents like Africa for example, are also quite dry. Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 16:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know whether it is a useful redirect, but if kept it should definitely go to Antarctica rather than a list. Many places can be quite dry, but some will be drier than others, and one (unless there's a tie) will be the "driest". CMD (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. The article does say, with a source, that "Antarctica, on average, is the coldest, driest, and windiest continent". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:05, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
British from the European Union
- British from the European Union → Brexit (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
May be misleading as it doesn't refer to the "exit" or "leave" from the EU B dash (talk) 13:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete My first thought was this would refer to a British person representing the European Union in some capacity, or possibly how one might describe someone from Texas as a Texan from the United States. I certainly wouldn't associate it with Brexit. Thryduulf (talk) 16:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. This redirect might cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete I don't even know who would search for this. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 19:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. The redirect title isn't complete or meaningful, so can't be redirected to anything unambiguously correct. --A D Monroe III(talk) 20:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Incomplete and nonsensical redirect. Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete I would be inclined to keep if the redirect was more complete, such as if it had something about the UK leaving or about Brexit specifically. Mgasparin (talk) 03:40, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
Karl Ivanovich May
- Karl Ivanovich May → Karl May School (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Unreasonable redirect (notable person -> semi-notable school named after the person) Zocky | picture popups 13:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I'm torn between keeping this as a redirect to the section of the article that is most about the person and deleting per WP:REDLINK. Thryduulf (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Tina Ballerina
- Tina Ballerina → List of recurring The Simpsons characters#Tina Ballerina (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
No longer listed in the characters. Not notable enough. Goveganfortheanimals (talk) 07:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete, since it is not in the target. While redirects are cheap, it could be confusing to a reader to click on the link and then find nothing about the character.Onel5969 TT me 14:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Krusty the Clown where mentioned as an assistant. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 14:18, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Krusty The Clown per Angus. Smartyllama (talk) 19:41, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Ragnar Larsson
- Ragnar Larsson → Axel Larsson (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
A redirect to a DAB page which includes no-one called Ragnar. (FWIW, there's no-one called Ragnar Larsson with an article in Swedish WP; though there does seem to have been a prewar international footballer; see 1938–39 in Swedish football.) Delete. Narky Blert (talk) 06:51, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete: Makes no sense at all; reason 5 at "Reasons for deleting" seems to apply here. Geolodus (talk) 21:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: Axel Larsson (Swedish wrestler) is where the redirect originally pointed. Ragnar appears to be one of the subject's middle names? --Paul_012 (talk) 06:12, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Pinging User:Lugnuts, who created the redirect. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:14, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- The article for Axel Larsson (Swedish wrestler) has this source with the name Ragnar Larsson. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Add the information to Wikipedia if it's notable, otherwise Delete to avoid WP:SURPRISE. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Weak keep While I share JHunterJ's uncertainty about the source's notability, it's also the only source for the article, so if we can determine it's not, that's a clean G8 deletion for the redirect. With the extremely narrow sourcing we have, it does appear the wrestler was known as Ragnar Larsson—for all we know, he wasn't even commonly called Axel Larsson at all! So I'm keeping this "weak" because we're in very marginal territory here. Swedish Wikipedia doesn't seem to have an article on a wrestler by either name. --BDD (talk) 18:12, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Move Axel Larsson (Swedish wrestler) to Ragnar Larsson per WP:COMMONNAME / WP:NATURAL. olympic.org also uses "Ragnar" for the Swede. -- Tavix (talk) 18:24, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment there's also a Ragnar Larsen AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Still the input are very split
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April 7
List of People whose name is Ichiro
- List of People whose name is Ichiro → Ichirō (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Unnecessary. We already have Ichiro for non-diacritics purpose. No other redirects starting with "List of people whose name is" exists. Either we mass-create those, or we delete this one. Tsumikiria⧸ 🌹🌉 22:14, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Brexit means Brexit does mean Brexit
- Brexit means Brexit does mean Brexit → Brexit (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I do not believe this redirect should exist. If you believe there is a valid reason for keeping this redirect, please let me know. If you see any redirects here that you think should be deleted, go ahead and nominate them. Mstrojny (talk) 21:05, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Brexit means Brexit is a plausible search term, but this is not. Thryduulf (talk) 09:00, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - I agree with Thryduulf. Doesn't appear to be a valid search term.Onel5969 TT me 12:35, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Hey Girl (Justin Bieber song)
- Hey Girl (Justin Bieber song) → Believe (Justin Bieber album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
No mention of this song at target or at Justin Bieber discography. Another rumoured track? Richhoncho (talk) 17:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - Unreleased 2014 track, so it is a plausible search term but it’s not mentioned at target article.—NØ 09:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Forever Lost (Album)
- Forever Lost (Album) → The Magic Numbers (album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
No mention of an album of this name on target (there is a song, which also has a redirect). Richhoncho (talk) 10:39, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Forever Lost (album) for obvious reasons.--NØ 16:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:British Overseas Territories
- Portal:British Overseas Territories → British Overseas Territories (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Now unnecessary and a surprise. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:British Overseas Territories Legacypac (talk) 08:37, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. The MfD closed with explicit consensus to redirect and there is no reason to change that. Thryduulf (talk) 09:01, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. The redirect is misleading because it implies a portal where there is not one. Also note precedent at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 March 2#Portal:ISIS. -- Tavix (talk) 13:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per previous consensus and stop forum shopping. Smartyllama (talk) 19:44, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- look at the fantastic comment by the creator. [11]. How is this forum shopping a long time later during a cleanup of portal space? Legacypac (talk) 21:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Palace of Westminster/images
- Palace of Westminster/images → Palace of Westminster (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Seems unnecessary, there is no section talking about the images B dash (talk) 08:31, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - As per nom, doesn't appear to be a valid target. If there were a gallery section, it could direct there, but there isn't. Onel5969 TT me 15:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment this was originally created in 2004 as an image gallery, then moved or redirected to Wikipedia:List of images/Places/Europe/United Kingdom/Cities/London/Palace of Westminster a few days later. In 2006 the redirect target was changed to the present target to avoid a cross-namespace redirect. In 2007 Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:List of images deleted this and other galleries as now redundant to Commons. Thryduulf (talk) 09:12, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Inert munition
- Inert munition → Dummy round (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Dummy round describes only one type of "inert munition". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:25, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Inert bomb
- Inert bomb → Dummy round (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
The target does not describe an "inert bomb". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:20, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Pincushion flower
- Pincushion flower → Pincushion (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Pincushion-flower → Scabiosa (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Retarget somewhere. I discovered this situation by accident after seeing an off-wiki reference to "pincushion flower". I can't envision a reason why these two should go to separate places, but as I've never heard this term, I don't want to be WP:BOLD here. I thought of six other forms of the name, but they're all redlinks: Pincushion-flowers, Pincushion flowers, Pincushion Flower, Pincushion Flowers, Pincushion-Flower, and Pincushion Flowers. Nyttend (talk) 18:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Both should go to either the existing Pincushion (disambiguation), or to a new SIA for flowers known by this name, however punctuated. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:41, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Pincushion (disambiguation). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:27, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Music of Trinidad and Tobago/Related Trinidad and Tobago portals
![Keep](https://web.archive.org/web/20190411213903im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/White_check_mark_in_dark_green_rounded_square.svg/16px-White_check_mark_in_dark_green_rounded_square.svg.png)
Chainmail bikini
- Chainmail bikini → Gender representation in video games#Women in scanty armor (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Chainmail Bikini → Bikini in popular culture#Bikini icons (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
See concern raised by Equinox at Talk:Gender representation in video games#"Chainmail bikini" redirects here, but.... I agree that it's a women's issue reaching beyond the scope of video games, though the Gender representation in video games article currently contains more information on the topic. feminist (talk) 12:14, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Bikini armor and the "scalemail bikini" link from Bikini in popular culture both go to Gender representation in video games. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:55, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Comment - I think the target should be the more comprehensive topic, which currently is Gender representation in video games#Forms, barely. If there are examples of this type of garment in media other than video games, it would be best to create an article about it (or add/expand on a section in an existing article, such as Bikini in popular culture#Bikini icons (note, this anchor does not currently exist in the article)). Until then it makes sense to keep (and retarget in the case of Chainmail Bikini)) the redirect for both terms to the place where the most information about the topic is located, which as I understand it is (marginally) Gender representation in video games#Forms. There is a mention of scalemail bikinis in Bikini in popular culture about a niche magazine cover, but that looks like the only mention in the article about think kind of garment. There is nothing about the use of the term in relation to video games other than the scalemail term, which is piped to the same section in Gender representation in video games. The best solution would be to expand on the concept in the pop culture article (and it shouldn't be all that difficult if it is as prevelant as Equinox says), but until then I think the target should be the video game article. Regardless of outcome, both links should point to the same target. - PaulT/C 22:51, 21 March 2019 (UTC) NB- scale armour bikini, scalemail bikini, and Scalemail Bikini should also target whatever both Chainmail Bikini and chainmail bikini end up targeting... - PaulT/C 22:55, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Let's have one more chance on it
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- Redirect to Bikini in popular culture#Bikini icons. This is a major trope in fantasy fiction and predates video games with resolution sufficient to depict a chain mail bikini. Chain mail bikinis show up on covers of fantasy novels, comics, and instruction manuals of pen and paper role playing games. Tvtropes has a list of examples (though not exclusively chain mail bikinis; it covers other types of revealing armor as well). Plantdrew (talk) 22:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Destruction Duet
- Destruction Duet → Mario Party 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Not mentioned in the targeted article. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 09:52, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Looking at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Destruction Duet it was closed as merge in 2005 though I’m not sure if we should be held to that since none of the 65 minigames are currently mentioned in the article.--64.229.166.98 (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not mentioned at target. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:28, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
April 6
Ó Gradáigh
- Ó Gradáigh → O'Grady family (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete: The correct Irish spelling is Ó Grádaigh, with the accent on the first a. Only one page used the redirect from Ó Gradáigh, which is categorically incorrect and which I have corrected, creating the appropriate redirect (Ó Grádaigh) in the process. If we're going to use an accent we may as well have it in the right place. ~ Maltrópa loquace 21:23, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - while the above commentary is absolutely correct, one purpose of redirects is for misspellings, as long as that misspelling is reasonable (e.g. Pheonix for Phoenix). An editor could very easily misplace the diacritic over the wrong "a". Onel5969 TT me 15:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per Onel, a plausible misspelling. Thryduulf (talk) 09:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Pennstatelaw
- Pennstatelaw → Penn State Dickinson Law (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Unclear why this redirects where it does instead of Penn State Law. Steel1943 (talk) 19:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. This redirect may cause confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Billy Ray Cyrus' Daughter
- Billy Ray Cyrus' Daughter → Miley Cyrus (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Completely pointless redirect? And also, Billy has several daughters so it makes no sense for this to only point to the Miley Cyrus article. NØ 19:20, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as Billy also has Noah Cyrus as a daughter ("several" is an exaggeration when that term means at least five), rendering this an implausible redirect. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete also there is an article for Brandi Cyrus. Pointless redirect. ("Several" can mean more than two but less then many per some dictionaries. Three is enough for that.) Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Aoba47 (talk) 20:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ("Several" is a very, very, very, very vague adjective that's about as clear and useful as the adverb "very".) Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Billy Ray Cyrus#Personal life where all his daughters are listed and those who have articles are linked. Thryduulf (talk) 09:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Just delete. If a person has enough contemporary pop culture awareness at all to know that Billy Ray Cyrus has notable daughters who have their own Wikipedia articles, then that person definitely already knows Miley's name and probably Noah's as well. (Brandi's more of a toss-up, I'll grant.) And in the unlikely event that anybody spent the entire 2010s in a coma or something, this redirect still won't help them anyway — a person who was actually trapped in the liminal space of knowing that Billy Ray Cyrus has notable daughters but not knowing their names would just go to Billy Ray Cyrus and see if daughters were named and linked there, rather than continuing to type past the end of "Billy Ray Cyrus" to add "daughter" to the search term. Bearcat (talk) 12:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Karim Boulos
- Karim Boulos → Ville-Marie borough council (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Redirect from a former member of a council to an article that doesn't actually have his name in it anymore. The borough council is not a level of political office that passes WP:NPOL, so there's no need to retain this -- the article formerly contained a biographical sketch of him, but he was the only councillor in the entire history of the borough who had that, and Wikipedia consensus has long since deprecated the idea that articles about political bodies should transclude extended mini-bios of past or present members who don't actually clear the bar for their own standalone BLPs. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Leave a Kiss
![Split or bespoke decisions](https://web.archive.org/web/20190411213903im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/White_i_in_purple_rounded_square.svg/16px-White_i_in_purple_rounded_square.svg.png)
Mutiple personality disorder
- Mutiple personality disorder → Dissociative identity disorder (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Odd misspelling of the common, simple word multiple: does not support searches, as whoever enters this can reasonably be expected to know the correct spelling. Only used accidentally on an old talk page, here. Request deletion. 92.195.216.165 (talk) 13:58, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per Wikipedia:R3. These typo redirects are useless, and are almost always deleted after RFD discussions anyway due to a lack of reason to keep. Geolodus (talk) 14:37, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- That would not be an option since R3 only applies to recently created redirects and this is over a decade old.--64.229.166.98 (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Not speediable for the reason the nominator explained, but not useful either. It is not necessary to create a redirect from the misspelling to the correct title every time somebody on Wikipedia makes a typo that generates a redlink — the misspelled link should just be fixed, and does not need to generate a permanent redirect from the typo. Bearcat (talk) 18:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as this has no value when the misspelling is for a redirect, not the official article title. Just fix the spelling whenever someone uses "multiple personality disorder" within article text instead. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:34, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per above. Aoba47 (talk) 21:28, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Kill Oscar (2
- Kill Oscar (2 → The Bionic Woman (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete. Refers to a three episode arc of The Bionic Woman and The Six Million Dollar Man, but should it target to the former which had two of these episodes, or to the latter which had part two of the arc? I'd suggest that this question is not worth answering as the malformed title does not make a useful redirect. PC78 (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
M7b5
- M7b5 → Dominant seventh flat five chord (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
It seems that this abbreviation can also refer to minor seventh flat five chord (m7b5) instead of dominant seventh flat five (7b5 or M7b5). This ambiguity is a consequence of the first letter in titles being automatically capitalized, maybe a disambiguation page or hatnote can be used to clarify? ComplexRational (talk) 01:58, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I have added a hatnote which is better than a 2-entry disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:36, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
St. Joseph High Road
- St. Joseph High Road → Ħamrun (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
{{R from merge}}, but no longer mentioned. Before the merge, it was a few sentences about how this is an important commercial road in the town. Despite the generic-sounding name, I can't find another road with this exact name, but it does mean that a reader searching for it is probably looking for specific information and is already aware of Ħamrun generally. BDD (talk) 18:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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High Inquisitor
- High Inquisitor → Ministry of Magic#Dolores Umbridge (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- High-Inquisitor → Ministry of Magic#Dolores Umbridge (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Common title in fiction not limited to Harry Potter, not to mention real-world uses like the head of the Portuguese Inquisition (e.g., José of Braganza, High Inquisitor of Portugal). My gut says this isn't a good candidate for disambiguation, but someone else could try a draft. --BDD (talk) 19:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: See also Grand Inquisitor. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 20:08, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
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Echinops (genus)
- Echinops (genus) → Echinops (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
There are two genera called Echinops. Echinops is a plant, and there is also Echinops (mammal)./Echinops (tenrec) which redirect to Lesser hedgehog tenrec. Echinops (genus) previously pointed to the mammal, but it ambiguous. I've retargeted it to the plant, as that is the article at the base title. I'd prefer to just have it deleted. The only other option that really seems reasonable is to create a disambiguation page and have the (genus) redirect point there, but I don't think a two entry dab page is really warranted in this case. Plantdrew (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep While you know I highly respect your opinions on taxonomy, I don't see a problem with this one. I agree that a WP:TWODAB situation isn't desirable, but you've already solved the problem! As things stand now, the plant genus is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the term "Echinops", and the plant genus is, of course, a genus. The existing hatnote will be just as useful to the reader who searches "Echinops (genus)" as the one who searches "Echinops". --BDD (talk) 18:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete The standard addition for disambiguating genera is now "(KIND)", e.g. "(plant)", "(mammal)", "(frog)". We should strongly discourage use of the ambiguous "(genus)". (I wouldn't object to the strictly superfluous, but perhaps very occasionally useful, Echinops (plant).) Peter coxhead (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per BDD. Searching for "(genus)" is and will remain a very plausible search term for people looking for information on a genus - we don't require people to know our naming conventions in order to find the article they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 21:10, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. My preference is to delete because of ambiguity. If it is kept, the question then becomes what does it link to, or does it become a disambig page?....Pvmoutside (talk) 01:26, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Per BDD the plant genus is primary topic, and there is a hatnote to the mammal genus. It's a standard {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} to a primary topic, of which there are countless other examples. Thryduulf (talk) 09:47, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- so I have a question, I looked at pageviews for the plant and the animal. The animal has roughly 10 more looks per day than the plant. Should Echinops then become a redirect for Echinops (plant) and Echinops (mammal) or Echinops (tenrec)?.....Pvmoutside (talk) 11:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- If you think that either there is no primary topic for "Echinops", or that the mammal article should remain where it is but that "Echinops" should redirect there then you need to start a requested move for the plant genus article. If you think the mammal article should be at "Echinops" you need to start a requested move for that article. However while there is an article about a genus at "Echniops" this redirect should point to it, regardless of what genus that is. If "Echinops" were to become a disambiguation page then this redirect should point to that disambiguation page. If "Echinops" becomes a redirect to an article about a genus at some other title then this redirect should point to that same article. If "Echinops" becomes (a redirect to) an article about something other than a genus, then "Echinops (genus)" should either be a disambiguation page or point to whichever genus is primary between the two. In no circumstances should "Echinops" and "Echinops (genus)" lead to articles about different genera. Thryduulf (talk) 12:10, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- so I have a question, I looked at pageviews for the plant and the animal. The animal has roughly 10 more looks per day than the plant. Should Echinops then become a redirect for Echinops (plant) and Echinops (mammal) or Echinops (tenrec)?.....Pvmoutside (talk) 11:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Per BDD the plant genus is primary topic, and there is a hatnote to the mammal genus. It's a standard {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} to a primary topic, of which there are countless other examples. Thryduulf (talk) 09:47, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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Bandari music
- Bandari music → Bandari dance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Re-targeting "Bandari dance" to a new article for the subject matter Bandari dance, a draft of this stub article has already been created. Jooojay (talk) 03:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
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Sydneians
Not a word. According to the article, the correct demonym for Sydney is Sydneysider. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 03:31, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to
List of Old Sydneians, which is by far the primary topic for "Sydneians". Thryduulf (talk) 11:58, 30 March 2019 (UTC)- Retarget to Sydney Grammar School per Tavix below. Thryduulf (talk) 09:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget Sydneians and Sydneian to Sydney Grammar School where you would find usage like the publication The Sydneian. "Old Sydneians" are a term for the alumni, and would be a bit strange for the term to directly link there since "Sydneians" without the "old" would simply be someone currently attending the school. -- Tavix (talk) 20:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Retarget Sydneians and Sydneian to Sydney Grammar School per Tavix. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:48, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I was about to close this as retarget to Sydney Grammar School, as I am convinced by Tavix's comment (which I've just seen) and there would be little point in leaving it open longer when all three commenters agree on the best solution. I then noticed that Sydnian (singular) had not been tagged so I've now done that and listed it above, so this does need to be left open for the full week. Thryduulf (talk) 09:27, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- WP:NOTBURO comes to mind; do you think many editors have Sydneian on their watchlist? It would be an WP:INVOLVED close, though, so that's a much better reason to defer. :) --BDD (talk) 18:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Notburo isn't a reason to just completely ignore process for the sake of it, and something like this doesn't come close to justifying letting people who watch and/or use a redirect that it will fundamentally change. As for the involved nature, if I'd spotted Tavix's comment before the relisting I don't imagine that even Bdash (who seems to be the fondest of relisting) would close that as anything other than retarget as everyone suggested. Thryduulf (talk) 19:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- WP:NOTBURO comes to mind; do you think many editors have Sydneian on their watchlist? It would be an WP:INVOLVED close, though, so that's a much better reason to defer. :) --BDD (talk) 18:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
April 5
Youtoob
Implausible redirect. CycloneYoris talk! 21:41, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
CommentKeep There is an entry for it in Urban Dictionary - [12] (added 2008), therefore probably not implausible. Hzh (talk) 10:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC) Changed to keep after consideration as the rationale for deletion is incorrect. Hzh (talk) 12:38, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Hzh: Urban Dictionary has a ton of entries, most of them are not even listed here on Wikipedia. CycloneYoris talk! 07:23, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's not about whether it's listed in Urban Dictionary or not, but whether it is a implausible search item (therefore implausible redirect) or not. It appears to be something that has been used before (its entry in Urban Dictionary is an indication of that), therefore it cannot be implausible. Hzh (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Hzh: You're the one that brought up the fact that it's listed in Urban Dictionary. By the way, since when is Urban Dictionary a reliable source? User-generated sites are not considered reliable sources in my opinion, and per Wikipedia also, see: WP:UGC. CycloneYoris talk! 00:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- You are missing the point entirely. Your rationale is that it is an implausible redirect, the fact that such a word has been used before indicates that it is not implausible. Whether it is given in Urban Dictionary or elsewhere is irrelevant, as is whether they are reliable sources or not. Just a little search and you'd see it used elsewhere - [13], and apparently used in South Park - [14]. The word is mentioned in these articles - Canada on Strike and What What (In the Butt), therefore you can wikilink the word there it becomes straight away a valid redirect. Hzh (talk) 01:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's not about whether it's listed in Urban Dictionary or not, but whether it is a implausible search item (therefore implausible redirect) or not. It appears to be something that has been used before (its entry in Urban Dictionary is an indication of that), therefore it cannot be implausible. Hzh (talk) 09:24, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Weak keep as phonetically plausible in some varieties of English. – Uanfala (talk) 22:19, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Molecular magnets
- Molecular magnets → Molecular magnet (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
More of a housekeeping thing - someone sensibly combined Molecular magnet and Molecular magnets, which redirected to different articles, into one disamb under the former name. I don't believe this plural version is needed? -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
DeleteKeep per Purposes of redirects because it redirects to a disambiguation page that does not contain (disambiguation) in the title. RockMagnetist(talk) 21:04, 5 April 2019 (UTC)- Keep This is standard practise. older ≠ wiser 10:13, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Bkonrad: Standard if it redirects to an article, but this redirects to a disambiguation page. RockMagnetist(talk) 01:21, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- @RockMagnetist: Why should that make any difference? Category:Redirects from plurals contain many such redirects. older ≠ wiser
- Oops - I was looking at the purposes of redirects, not the reasons for deletion! I have changed my vote accordingly. RockMagnetist(talk) 02:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep per standard practice. {{R from plural}} redirects to dab pages are somewhat useful as search terms, and their existence guards against recreation as redirects to different targets. – Uanfala (talk) 22:25, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
CPU (heart…
- CPU (heart… → Central processing unit (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- CPU (heart... → Central processing unit (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete. The former was apparently created as a newbie test but the use of an elipsis makes it pretty much useless as a redirect. The latter is just a bot created duplicate. PC78 (talk) 11:04, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete both as malformed and misleading. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Before being redirected this could have been speedily deleted as a test page (G2), but not after the following good-faith edits. Regardless, it's not a useful redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 11:57, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Master Bate
- Master Bate → Channel Awesome#Blistered Thumbs (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Serves no discernible purpose Shantavira|feed me 09:32, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Not mentioned at target. I was quite surprised to find that Master Bates doesn't redirect to Captain Pugwash, but that's another story. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Arayan
- Arayan → Caste system in Kerala (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
History is ripe with copyright violations. Some have been revdelled, but every meaningful revision is a copyvio. I recommend deleting, re-creating as redirect, and protecting. wumbolo ^^^ 08:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
P:Freedom
- P:Freedom → Portal:Freedom of speech (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete as misleading, since there are many other possible freedoms that could have Portals. UnitedStatesian (talk) 11:50, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete redirects to portals are pretty useless because portals are not wikilinked in the text of articles Legacypac (talk) 12:24, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment redirects, including P: and other pseudo-namespace redirects are intended for searching as much as for linking. Lack of links is explicitly not a reason on its own to delete a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 00:47, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. There are no other portals with "Freedom" in the title, and (potential) ambiguity is not normally an issue with shortcut redirects like this one, and the stats show it does get some use. All in all I'm not seeing that there is any reason to delete this. Thryduulf (talk) 09:52, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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Xero (U.S.A. band)
- Xero (U.S.A. band) → Linkin Park (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Xero (U.S. band) → Linkin Park (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Xero (USA band) → Linkin Park (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Xero (US band) → Linkin Park (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Xero (American band) → Linkin Park (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
One of many implausible redirects to the Linkin Park Wikipedia article. Goveganplease (talk) 02:09, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. They were named Xero, and there is no other band in the US named Xero, so while these redirects may not have high usage, they are accurate and harmless. feminist (talk) 15:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete "Xero (U.S.A. band)", "Xero (U.S. band)", and "Xero (USA band)", keep "Xero (US band)" and "Xero (American band)" - sufficient. — Scott • talk 14:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Keep. It seems a little excessive given that they never released anything under this name, but none of the redirects are malformed so I don't see any specific problem with them. I would perhaps target them to Linkin Park#1996–2000: Early years though, which is the relevant section of the article. PC78 (talk) 23:13, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Missing brackets with other typos
- Barry Mills(Aryan BrotherHood → Barry Mills (Aryan Brotherhood) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- C(programming language → C (programming language) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- C21(album → C21 (album) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Chiropteran(anime → Blood: The Last Vampire (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Cromwell high school (cromewell → Cromwell High School (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Dr: Mohamed Said Samatar (Gacaliye → Mohamed Gacaliye (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Delete. Combination of missing brackets and other typos (missing space, capitalisation, spelling, colon, etc.) make these rather implausable and highly unlikely search terms. PC78 (talk) 01:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete all as costly. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
April 4
Lexit
- Lexit → Withdrawal from the European Union (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Not mentioned in the target, or in the body of any other articles with the exception of Communist Party of Britain (Marxist–Leninist) and Issues in anarchism, neither of which would be an appropriate target. A soft redirect to wikt:Lexit might be a possibility. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:34, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete – Never heard that word in umpteen hours of reporting on Brexit. Made up by some editor? — JFG talk 06:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep – it is very much a real word that was used during the referendum campaign by left wing Eurosceptics. A Google search proves as much. --RaviC (talk) 10:23, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, the word was fairly widely used in 2016 and, as I said above, is mentioned in two articles. That doesn't however mean that redirecting it to an article that doesn't use or mention it is helpful: if a reader searches for this term then they're most likely to be looking for a definition and/or encyclopaedic information about it, neither of which is provided by the current target. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 11:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Armorial of the United States
- Armorial of the United States → Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I have been largely inactive on Wikipedia for the past year or two. I recently discovered that Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876, a list article that I started, developed, and brought through the FLC process to Featured List, was redirected to Armorial of the United States. The substance of the FL Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876 was copied and pasted into Armorial, along with the FL tag. Since this merge the content that was Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876 has been hacked to pieces. I think this was an inappropriate redirect and destruction of a FL that was on a very specific aspect (engraving) of coats of arms based on a 1876 publication by engraver Louis Prang.--Godot13 (talk) 21:39, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Godot13: That page has been moved a lot of times. But, it looks like the merge was undone a few hours ago[15], and the FA article is located at Historical armorial of U.S. states from 1876. Christian75 (talk) 10:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- redirect Historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876 to Historical armorial of U.S. states from 1876, or whatever, the title should be - could be the other way - no opinion. Christian75 (talk) 10:41, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Annals of the carnegie museum
- Annals of the carnegie museum → Annals of Carnegie Museum (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Annals of the Carnegie Museum exists as a redirect, but so does Annals of the carnegie museum (lower case) - when you type in "Annals of the c"... or even "Annals of the C..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted. Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine {{R from other capitalisation}}, search suggestions are only shown to a subset of people who use a subset of ways to find content on Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 17:20, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
→ Carnegie Museum is a proper name that should always be capitalised. Also there is no redirect for "Annals of carnegie museum" (lc, no article) so why do we need one for "Annals of the carnegie museum" (lc with article)? Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Merge: please see discussion here. Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine use of {{R from miscaps}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Annals of joseon dynasty
- Annals of joseon dynasty → Veritable Records of the Joseon Dynasty (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Annals of Joseon Dynasty exists as a redirect, but so does Annals of joseon dynasty (lower case) - when you type in "Annals of j"... or even "Annals of J..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted. Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:08, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine {{R from other capitalisation}}, search suggestions are only shown to a subset of people who use a subset of ways to find content on Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 17:20, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
→ Not so sure about this one. I would say that "Joseon Dynasty" is a proper name that should always be capitalised, but if you look at the Joseon article, they don't seem to agree! Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep: redirects don't have to be grammatically or syntactically correct. That's the point. They are, amongst others, deliberately incorrect titles that redirect readers to the correct one. Lithopsian (talk) 19:25, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Merge: please see discussion here. Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine use of {{R from miscaps}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Annals of xanten
- Annals of xanten → Annales Xantenses (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Annals of Xanten exists as a redirect, but so does Annals of xanten (lower case) - when you type in "Annals of x"... or even "Annals of X..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted. Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine {{R from other capitalisation}}, search suggestions are only shown to a subset of people who use a subset of ways to find content on Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
→ Xanten is the name of a town, therefore a proper noun that should always be capitalised. Without the lower case redirect, auto-correct will produce the upper case version anyway, so I simply don't see the need for the lc redirect. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Merge: please see discussion here. Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine use of {{R from miscaps}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:55, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Annals of wales
- Annals of wales → Annales Cambriae (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Annals of Wales exists as a redirect, but so does Annals of wales (lower case 'w') - when you type in "Annals of w"... or even "Annals of W..." in the Wiki searchbox, the lower case version automatically pops up in the list. It seems to be over-riding the capitalised version, which is not showing up at all. Therefore, I suggest the lower case version of the redirect needs to be deleted. Rodney Baggins (talk) 14:01, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine {{R from other capitalisation}}, search suggestions are only shown to a subset of people who use a subset of ways to find content on Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 17:21, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
→Wales is the name of a country, therefore it is a proper noun which should always be capitalised, and for that reason alone I don't see why we even need to entertain the idea of a lower case version. Cf: If I incorrectly type "wales" into the Wiki searchbox, it is auto-corrected to "Wales" in the list that pops up, because "wales" does not exist as a redirect (and rightly so). For this same reason, I don't think "Annals of wales" should exist as a redirect. It should just get auto-corrected to Annals of Wales in exactly the same way. Rodney Baggins (talk) 18:04, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, I should have said {{R from miscapitalisation}} but the same reasoning I gave holds. That it is grammatically incorrect is not relevant, not everybody searches using correct grammar. Regarding Wales, the first character of a page title on Wikipedia is case insensitive and canonically uppercase. This means that wales and Wales are exactly the same page, it is not possible for one to be a redirect to the other. For a better example, New york, Bill clinton, New delhi, Margaret thatcher, College of arms, and literally thousands of similar ones all exist as redirects (Category:Redirects from miscapitalisations has 4,303 members and not all such redirects are tagged). Thryduulf (talk) 01:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Thryduulf I understand that now. The lower case 'w' in "Annals of wales" is not the opening letter of the redirect so my Wales/wales analogy was not equivalent. But I'm still concerned that this redirect is unnecessary. I notice that numerous other Annals articles have no such lower case redirect, e.g. "Annals of essenbæk", "Annals of lund", "Annals of medicine", "Annals of probability", the list goes on... So I think the problem I have is a matter of consistency. When you bring up the article list in the Wiki searchbox, all the suggestions come up with caps except the erroneous one, i.e. type in "Annals of w" and you get "Annals of Winchester", "Annals of Waverley" and "Annals of wales" and the reason you don't get the capitalised "Annals of Wales" in the list (which would look more correct and consistent) is because the lower case version exists and therefore over-rides the uc version, and that's the very reason for my objection to it :) Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:02, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: this is one of multiple discussions started by the same author for the same reason. I think they were all on the same day, but I might be wrong about that. It might make sense to lump them to avoid having the same (rather simple, technical) discussion repeatedly. Lithopsian (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, feel free to merge. Thryduulf (talk) 01:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yes they can be merged and continue discussion here under the Annals of Wales entry. Rodney Baggins (talk) 07:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep perfectly fine use of {{R from miscaps}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:53, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- According to {{R from miscaps}}, the redirect exists as a temporary measure (hence it's in the Temporary maintenance holdings category) purely to maintain links, and pages that link to this redirect should be updated to link directly to the correct form. Logically, this implies that the redirect can be removed once it's served its purpose and its temporary function is no longer required. According to the list of links to this redirect, there's nothing there that wasn't created as a direct consequence of the discussion we're having now, so I don't see why this redirect can't be deleted as it appears to serve no purpose, other than to over-ride the correct capitalised form in the searchbox list (the "slightly irritating" thing that alerted me to it in the first place). (Assuming this argument also applies to xanten, joseon dynasty & carnegie museum above). Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- I think you might have gotten turned around, the addition to Category:Temporary maintenance holdings is done by the {{rfd}} template. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 09:54, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- According to {{R from miscaps}}, the redirect exists as a temporary measure (hence it's in the Temporary maintenance holdings category) purely to maintain links, and pages that link to this redirect should be updated to link directly to the correct form. Logically, this implies that the redirect can be removed once it's served its purpose and its temporary function is no longer required. According to the list of links to this redirect, there's nothing there that wasn't created as a direct consequence of the discussion we're having now, so I don't see why this redirect can't be deleted as it appears to serve no purpose, other than to over-ride the correct capitalised form in the searchbox list (the "slightly irritating" thing that alerted me to it in the first place). (Assuming this argument also applies to xanten, joseon dynasty & carnegie museum above). Rodney Baggins (talk) 08:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- What Amorymeltzer said. This is related to the rfd, not {{R from miscaps}}Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Leia the slave
- Leia the slave → Princess Leia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Not a valid name or title. It was originally an article fork that should have simply been deleted at the time. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:09, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. I'm not very familiar with Star Wars, but it seems that Leia being a slave is an important plot point. If so, this should redirect to where that is most thoroughly discussed. Thryduulf (talk) 12:39, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to either Princess Leia#Return of the Jedi (my preference) or Princess Leia's bikini (distant second) would be OK. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Brussels bombing
- Brussels bombing → 2016 Brussels bombings (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
- Brussels bombings → 2016 Brussels bombings (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
More than one bombings occurred in Brussels B dash (talk) 12:34, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Terrorist activity in Belgium; all notable Brussels bombings are/should be listed there. ComplexRational (talk) 12:57, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Brussels bombing can be changed to a disambiguation page or redirected to Terrorist activity in Belgium if 2016 Brussels bombings is not its primary topic. --Neo-Jay (talk) 15:43, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 February 26#Attack in Brussels. Pinging the participants to that discussion who haven't commented here: @Ivanvector and BDD:. Thryduulf (talk) 15:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- (responding to ping) I'm of two minds with this one. It points to the most recent event, which you'd think would be the most likely event readers would be searching for, and has hatnotes pointing to the other topics which match this query. On the other hand I don't know if it's WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and so retargeting to the dab page would also work, but would be an extra click for readers looking for this topic who aren't aware of prior incidents. I guess I'm neutral. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:33, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Disambiguate, do not retarget to Terrorist activity in Belgium. When our readers type in "Brussels bombing," they are likely to be looking for a specific incident, and it's going to be hard to find on a whole article on terrorist attacks in Belgium, many of which are not bombings and/or did not occur in Brussels. Brussels bombings should be the disambiguation page and Brussels bombing the redirect to it. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:10, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 13:24, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Not convinced either way, some more discussion on the merits of dab vs retarget (vs keep?) should be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:08, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Romantic relationships in Peanuts
- Romantic relationships in Peanuts → Peanuts (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
The article doesn't discuss any romantic relationships except for one mentioning of Peppermint Patty's infatuation for Charlie Brown early on in the strip. Implausible search term. Goveganplease (talk) 14:45, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - certainly a valid thing to search for, but we don't seem to have much information compiled in one place: the characters' romantic (and platonic) relationships are discussed mostly within the articles for each character. The main article is as good a place as any for readers to start. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:55, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. "Romantic relationships" is nonexistent as a prefix outside of this redirect; there exist no other articles or redirects starting with "Romantic relationships". Given that Peanuts isn't even a romance-focused work, I see no reason to have this around when "Romantic relationships in X" doesn't exist for anything else. (An important clarification to WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS/DOESNTEXIST is that most of the time, things exist or don't exist for a good reason. Now it's not valid to argue for the existence of something just because others exist when you cannot justify the existence of the other things, and vice versa, but here I can say very well that having thousands of "Romantic relationships in" redirects for every entry in Category:Romantic fiction would be completely pointless.) -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:44, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B dash (talk) 04:17, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amory (u • t • c) 11:07, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Implausible search term, no one is ever going to search for it. Peanuts does include romantic relationships, but that's not the main point of the strip. Charlie Brown's interest in the little red-haired girl, Sally's interest in Linus and Lucy's interest in Schroeder can be covered on the respective character pages as an aside. JIP | Talk 22:15, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Mauricie
- Portal:Mauricie → Mauricie (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
I had redirected the portal page but then the other regions of Quebec pages were all deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Saguenay–Lac-Saint-Jean. So as a housekeeping matter we should delete the cross namespace redirect based on the MfD result. Legacypac (talk) 04:41, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget to Portal:Quebec which would seem to be more useful for anyone searching for this sub-topic. I would also apply this to the other regions of Quebec too (this was not discussed in the MfD). Thryduulf (talk) 12:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per the result of the MfD. A retarget to Portal:Quebec would be misleading because it does not specifically cover Mauricie. -- Tavix (talk) 13:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
April 3
The Past is a Foreign Country
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Captive audience meetings
- Captive audience meetings → Union busting (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
This union-busting tactic doesn't seem to be discussed at the target article, at least by name. Since the phrase could describe any sort of mandatory meeting, it's not a helpful redirect right now. --BDD (talk) 19:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Atatuerk
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Hamburder
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 11#Hamburder
Cliveden Glade
- Cliveden Glade → Canadian Red Cross Memorial Hospital (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
No mention in target article - no indication whether it's a name for location, or the hospital, or the new retirement village: not a useful redirect. No helpful ghits. PamD 16:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Fair point. Even after this short time since my edit, I can't quite work out where I got the Glade from. I won't oppose deleting the redirect. Gerbis (talk) 17:03, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. "Cliveden Glade" is not mentioned in the source. Nor is "Cliveden Village", now removed. Sam Sailor 07:38, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Sam Sailor: Have found a good source for "Cliveden Village" and will add when not on phone. PamD 15:04, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Philippine Bausch
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Template:RE
- Template:RE → Template:Reflist (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
This is barely used redirect for {{reflist}} (about 136 times, although this is not always used for reflists) compared to {{reflist}}'s 4708565 times. However, I believe it would make a lot more sense to use as a redirect for {{Re}}.
{{Re}} is short for reply, much like you have in emails. And in emails, this is very, very, very often capitalized as RE:... and when people forget that {{RE}} ≠ {{Re}}, then what happens is that the person they intended to notify, doesn't get notified. Non-mainspace use reveal this is not uncommon. I know I made that mistake at least a dozen of times this year alone, before having to go back and fixing my pings.
Henre, I propose we retarget Template:RE to redirect to Template:Reply to (after taking care of existing uses). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: I support retargeting (after substing existing uses as appropriate), but note that {{re}} itself is a redirect, so {{RE}} should redirect to {{Reply to}} instead, to avoid the dreaded double redirect. I created this redirect 11 years ago, before pinging was a thing here. — Jeff G. ツ 16:38, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget The current target simply makes no sense to me. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Keep - This redirect has been in place since 2008 and has probably been replaced thousands of times by {{reflist}}, therefore, the time for changing this redirect without confusion has long passed. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Jax 0677:, there's already confusion out there (e.g. search for
{{RE|User: Only}}
in for example. Retargeting to {{Reply to}} will minimize that confusion, and stop pings from being lost / not being sent. I also note that {{re}} used to redirect to reflist as well. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:42, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Jax 0677:, there's already confusion out there (e.g. search for
- Retargeting as suggested makes sense to me. The current target {{reflist}} does not. Sam Sailor 09:09, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Retarget per nomination and consistency with the RfD Headbomb dug out from 2013. — Scott • talk 09:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
KFMASH
- KFMASH → Pelite#KFMASH (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
Section heading was added Feb 28th, but no content. Unhelpful redirect until there's some content in the article. PamD 16:13, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- RockingGeo: Could some content about K2O–FeO–MgO–Al2O3–SiO2–H2O be added to the target? Sam Sailor 09:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Mister Bone Saw
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 11#Mister Bone Saw
Greivous Bodyguard
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Dark lord of the sith Darth Revan
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Darth Revan's Force Ghost
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Lumpy's stuffed bantha
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Justice Medley
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June 18, 1976
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Delimar Vera
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Lambda Omega sorority Norroena
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 11#Lambda Omega sorority Norroena
Wikipedia:WEAK
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 April 11#Wikipedia:WEAK
Portal:Current events/Canada
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