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Marisha Ray Article
Hi, Clarityfiend! You have rejected the draft for Marisha Ray's wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Marisha_Ray) last year because it didn't contain enough independent, secondary sources. I (and others) have added a couple of sources since then, and I wanted to ask if you could have a look and tell me if it would probably pass muster now or if it needs more still - I just don't want to risk it being deleted entirely. Thank you! Fajority — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fajority (talk • contribs) 14:56, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Please see link below to discussion of notability which also applies to Gerald Starr entry which you declined
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Herbert_Strongeagle#notability_of_Herbert_Strongeagle
I will duplicate this on my talk page since I am a newbie and do not believe I have figured out the process around "watch"ing pages. Thank-you. Squirrel2017 (talk) 14:29, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
You response actually makes my argument for me. The newspaper etc coverage is slim to none even for important indigenous figures. Thank-you. Squirrel2017 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:18, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Edit of Dark Matter TV series page
My edit of 'is' to 'was', is due to currency. It's not a currently aired TV show. I came to wiki first to see if it was still aired, and reading 'is' right off the top lead me to believe it was still aired, I closed the page thinking I missed something or couldn't find it through Syfy. I had to come back to read it was canceled. I believe 'was' is appropriate and correct. --Panoptican (talk) 05:08, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Look at other TV series articles, e.g. I Love Lucy, Bonanza, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, etc. They all say "is", no matter how long it's been since they last aired. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:11, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Panoptican: See MOS:TVLEAD: "References to the show, and its characters and locations, should always be in the present tense, as the show will still exist even after it is no longer airing new episodes". Clarityfiend (talk) 05:26, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Kora disamb page
Hi, you have been removing entries from the Kora disamb page. However
(1) Many places in India have changed their English names from old "British Empire" spellings to new spellings that are more consistent with local pronuncation, e.g. Bombay --> Mumbay. The Koda/Kora case is one such pair. The disamb entry "Koda" should have said "formerly spelled 'Kora'" ro vice-versa; I just missed it.
(2) I have read the WP style guids section that you referenced and I don't see why it applies to the other entries that you deleted. Some multi-word place names are often abbreviated (check "United States", "Britain", "Rio"), and that is explicitly the case of at least one of the towns whose pages I created yesterday. In case of doubt, it is better for the readers to list the entry than omit it.
(And, besides, everything in the WP style guides is only the opinion of some editor like me. You cannot expect that editors will read all the 1,234,567 pages of the style guide, much less that they agree to them...)
All the best,--Jorge Stolfi (talk) 20:15, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Jorge Stolfi: I see nothing in the partial match articles that demonstrates that they are abbreviated "Kora". Nor do I see how WP:PTM applies here. It states, "Place names are often divided between a specific and generic part: "North Carolina" (where "Carolina" is the specific, and "North" the generic part). ... It is entirely proper to include such place names in disambiguation pages with the specific title" (which I don't particularly agree with, but that's beside the point). None of the entries satisfies the "generic part" requirement. As for Koda, other than Madhu Koda and Koda language, there are no other Indian entries. WP:SURPRISE seems to me to apply here. The average reader is not going to know what the connection between Koda and Kora is. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:13, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- I still disagree... For one thing, I am assuming that the primary goal of Wikipedia is to be helpful to readers who come to it in search of information. It seems to me that they would be better served if those entries are included, than if they are omitted. Would you be too upset if I add them to the "See also" section?
Besides, while some of those pairs may not fall under the generic+specific case, it is quite possible that others do. Take for example Kora Amanikere, Tumakuru. There are many towns in India called "Xxx Amanikere"; and indeed there is a separate village called simply "Kora", just 1 km north of "Kora Amanikere". Thus "Amanikere" (ಅಮಾನಿಕೆರೆ) seems to be a Kannada adjective (that presumably comes after the noun). I found one Kannada dictionary online that defines it as "(ಯಾವ ಗ್ರಾಮದ ದಾಖಲೆಗೂ ಸೇರದೆ ಇರುವ) ಸರಕಾರದ ವಶದಲ್ಲಿರುವ ಕೆರೆ" and Google translates that into something like "government-owned lake[? = ಕೆರೆ, kere] (that is not officially part of the village)".
And, again, the Manual of Style is not an official Wikipedia Foundation document, nor approved or monitored by it. Every rule in there is just the opinion of some editor. Referencing "WP:MOSxxx" may scare novice editors; but it will not convince the old ents that have seen those rules being made, and share Bismarck's opinion about laws and sausages...
All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 00:44, 19 March 2019 (UTC)- I have no objection to adding the villages to See also. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 17:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have no objection to adding the villages to See also. Clarityfiend (talk) 18:21, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- I still disagree... For one thing, I am assuming that the primary goal of Wikipedia is to be helpful to readers who come to it in search of information. It seems to me that they would be better served if those entries are included, than if they are omitted. Would you be too upset if I add them to the "See also" section?
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Phillip Marlowe = Philip Marlowe?
82.50.204.17 (talk) 10:16, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Never mind, the answer was in the talk page. Should have checked earlier. 82.50.204.17 (talk) 16:49, 26 March 2019 (UTC)