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- 1 Notice
- 2 Season Greetings
- 3 Proposed deletion of File:The Jazz Café Logo.png
- 4 Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg
- 5 File:Combate Americas' Fighters on a Beach.jpg
- 6 Portal:Bible/Featured chapter/By date
- 7 Liz Mair Photo
- 8 Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
- 9 Screenshot reduce
- 10 Nomination for merging of Template:OP
- 11 Incorrect message was left on my talk page. I uploaded the image even though there already was a link the bot isn't picking up.
- 12 Orphaned non-free image File:The 35th Annual National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences Suncoast Chapter Emmy Award Winners.pdf
Notice
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman/Evidence. Please add your evidence by December 31, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GiantSnowman/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Bradv🍁 21:46, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Season Greetings
Proposed deletion of File:The Jazz Café Logo.png
The file File:The Jazz Café Logo.png has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Unused logo with no article used, it's also can't move to commons because of an unused logo will be deleted as of out of project scope.
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.
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notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.
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will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Willy1018 (talk) 14:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Willy1018: This was the former logo for The Jazz Café and I have moved it to Commons and added it to Commons:Category:Jazz Cafe (London). --B (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg
I don't believe there was a consensus to delete File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg [1]. The portrait has been released by the National Portrait Gallery under a non-commercial use license, demonstrating to a reasonable degree that it does — in fact — also own the copyright to the portrait it commissioned and owns. The fact it is released as non-commercial use is, itself, irrelevant as we know the USG routinely mislabels or applies erroneously restrictive licensing terms to images it makes available online and we (WP) routinely ignore those when applied. The mere demonstration of any form of release, however, as I mentioned, demonstrates ownership of IP. Can you reopen the discussion? Chetsford (talk) 21:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Chetsford: I don't see any evidence of a license at [2] and even if there were a non-commercial license, that wouldn't demonstrate ownership of the copyright - it could just mean that they had a license from the painter to redistribute non-commercially. The National Portrait Gallery may own the physical portrait itself, but there is no basis for believing that they own the copyright to it. Though this is not "the" official Presidential portrait of Bush, it may be worth reading the note at the bottom of Portraits_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States#Gallery_of_presidential_portraits - portraits of Presidents that came after Carter (plus Ford for some reason) are all copyrighted. There is simply no evidence that the copyright to this portrait was transferred. A "consensus" to delete at IFD is not required if there is a copyright violation. --B (talk) 21:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- No prob (Just in point of clarification, it is incorrect to say "portraits of Presidents that came after Carter (plus Ford for some reason) are all copyrighted" - if I paint a portrait of Reagan tomorrow I am free to release the copyright as I see fit. The portraits commonly referred to as "official White House portraits" are, indeed, all copyrighted post-Carter; however, not any portrait anyone happens to paint of any post-Carter president is suddenly enveloped by a super-secret copyright corollary. To your confusion as to why these portraits are copyrighted, it's because — beginning with Reagan — the series was commissioned by the WHHA instead of the EOP, though this is an irrelevant digression in this instance as the portrait in question is an entirely separate image commissioned by the Smithsonian.) Anyway, I'm tied down with some other things right now so I may not have a chance to take this to deletion review for a couple weeks but will ping you once I get around to it. Thanks for your fast reply! Chetsford (talk) 21:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
May I suggest you clarify the sentence If you are a "contractor", then
? I've read it a few times and still can't parse it. Either I'm missing something or it's got a surplus or deficit of a word or two. It's useful education, I think. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:02, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
unless you are actually self-employed and you own the copyright to anything you create, unless you specifically have a contract that assigns the copyright to the company/entity that engaged your services.
- It is a confusing construction. I believe what they meant was that a contract employee of the USG can't be treated as a regular employee of the USG. While that may or may not be true, when visual art is done on the basis of "work for hire" the copyright transfers with the physical object. The artist's only residual rights are in prevention of its alteration or destruction, and correct crediting. However, a commissioned portrait (which applies in this case) is not a "work for hire" under U.S. Copyright Law unless it is otherwise designated as such by the contracting and contracted parties. In this case, the portrait was otherwise designated, however, before I could proceed to offer further evidence of that point the file was deleted (which is ultimately my fault as I was offline for the last few days). I'll take this back up in a couple weeks when I have more time. Chetsford (talk) 00:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- @AlanM1: remove the first "unless" (which I have struck) - that was a typo. "Contract employees" are not employees. @Chetsford: unless you have a FOIA request for a copy of the contract, I'm not sure how you could demonstrate that. One further annoyance is that, though the federal government cannot CREATE a copyrighted work, it can own copyrights that are transferred to it. So if I (an independent contractor) create a creative work and my contract uses the magic words that we agree my work is a "work for hire", then it's public domain, but if my contract uses the magic words that I agree to "assign my copyright to the government", then it is copyrighted. For a company, that's probably a distinction without difference (it would be the difference between the copyright lasting 95 years vs my lifetime plus 70 years I guess?), but for the federal government, it's the difference between public domain and copyrighted. Of course, in the case of this particular picture, if the copyright was transferred to the government, then that would be good enough for us - because we're only trying to use the government's own derivative work. So basically we're good with that in any case other than the artist still retaining the copyright. Unfortunately, however, there is no evidence that the artist did not retain the copyright. --B (talk) 03:08, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Correct, and since the file has been deleted, no evidence that the artist did not retain the copyright can be presented. Chetsford (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Chetsford: well, no, it can be presented at any time, but in any event, by the time you typed that, I had already undeleted it and relisted it at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 December 29 ;). --B (talk) 03:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Correct, and since the file has been deleted, no evidence that the artist did not retain the copyright can be presented. Chetsford (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- @AlanM1: remove the first "unless" (which I have struck) - that was a typo. "Contract employees" are not employees. @Chetsford: unless you have a FOIA request for a copy of the contract, I'm not sure how you could demonstrate that. One further annoyance is that, though the federal government cannot CREATE a copyrighted work, it can own copyrights that are transferred to it. So if I (an independent contractor) create a creative work and my contract uses the magic words that we agree my work is a "work for hire", then it's public domain, but if my contract uses the magic words that I agree to "assign my copyright to the government", then it is copyrighted. For a company, that's probably a distinction without difference (it would be the difference between the copyright lasting 95 years vs my lifetime plus 70 years I guess?), but for the federal government, it's the difference between public domain and copyrighted. Of course, in the case of this particular picture, if the copyright was transferred to the government, then that would be good enough for us - because we're only trying to use the government's own derivative work. So basically we're good with that in any case other than the artist still retaining the copyright. Unfortunately, however, there is no evidence that the artist did not retain the copyright. --B (talk) 03:08, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
File:Combate Americas' Fighters on a Beach.jpg
You overwrote this with a different picture. Does the ticket apply to both pictures?
Also, seems that someone managed to get {{split media}} deleted, so the only way to handle overwritten files may be to list them at FFD and request splitting there. Sigh... --Stefan2 (talk) 01:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Stefan2: I didn't even notice they were different. I will delete the old one. --B (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Portal:Bible/Featured chapter/By date
Hello, I believe you created this page or worked on it at some point. I've been maintaining it without any real knowledge of the code there. I've managed to keep it working until I tried to add 2019, and I don't know what I did wrong but I can't get it to work. If you can, please help. Thank you. Donnie Love (talk) 20:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Donnie Love: Fixed. It was a broken curly brace. ;) This is amazing work you are doing - I hadn't looked back at it in a while. --B (talk) 01:50, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. Donnie Love (talk) 03:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Liz Mair Photo
Hello. Please tell me how to resolve any issues with the Liz Mair photo. If the photo size is too large, will that be resolved by Wikipedia or do I need to submit a new one? When I uploaded the photo, I had never done this before, so I do not believe I correctly filled in all the required information about its use I (about "non-free use"). I found the information to be somewhat confusing, so I sort of guessed on how to fill it out. This photo is the sole property of Liz Mair. This is a "selfie" portrait, so there is no issue of copyright issues with an outside photographer. Liz Mair has given her permission for this photo from her Twitter account to be used on her Wiki page. Should another photo that is not in use elsewhere be substituted? My volunteer involvement on the Mair page is limited to formatting it. I have not, in any way, written, edited, or contributed to the content, and do not have any affiliation to any person or organization listed within it other than a casual acquaintance through another person with the subject (and I am a Democrat). I want to comply with all Wiki policies. A non-technical explanation would be appreciated. Thank you!PNW Raven (talk) 14:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- @PNW Raven: I'm going to use my psychic powers and assume you are referring to File:Liz Mair photo from Twitter.jpeg ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs). In order to accept this photo, we would need permission to be on file from the photographer. Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries has a form that you can ask the copyright holder (photographer) to email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission has more information for you and explains the process. (Though Wikipedia will use certain photos under a claim of fair use, this is never permitted for photos of living people.) --B (talk) 22:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that is indeed the file I'm referring to. I so appreciate your speedy and understandable explanation. I can contact Liz Mair, who is the subject and the photographer of the photo, and ask her to email this form to Wikipedia. I have certainly learned a lot by working on this page. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! PNW Raven (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- @PNW Raven: Please note that if the person claiming to be the copyright holder is depicted in the photo, then they will get a reply asking them HOW they are the copyright holder. From looking at this image, I think it's a selfie? So in this case, when she sends the email to permissions-en, she should note in there that she is the photographer and that the image is a selfie. (A lot of people who - in good faith - submit statements of permission for an image aren't actually the photographer and the photographer is usually the person we need to hear from. If you hire a professional photographer to take photos at, say, your wedding, your contract usually stipulates that they retain the copyright and so they - not you - are the copyright holder. But in this case, it looks like a selfie, so she just needs to point that out.) --B (talk) 01:16, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that is indeed the file I'm referring to. I so appreciate your speedy and understandable explanation. I can contact Liz Mair, who is the subject and the photographer of the photo, and ask her to email this form to Wikipedia. I have certainly learned a lot by working on this page. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! PNW Raven (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- It is indeed a selfie from her official Twitter account and is the one she requested be used. I will make sure she knows to indicate in the form that she is the both the subject and the photographer. Again, thanks for all your help.PNW Raven (talk) 10:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
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Happy 2019! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Screenshot reduce
Thanks so much for reducing the image size!, You reducing the size of this image absolutely helps thiis project in every single way!, Thanks to your help the image is so much more readable than what it was before!. Thanks again for your valued edit here. –Davey2010Talk 20:30, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Davey2010: The change was made pursuant to my close of Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2018_December_8#File:BBC_iPlayer_Screenshot.png and should not be unilaterally reverted. If you think that this image should be an exception to our guidelines, you should be able to convince at least one uninvolved administrator of that. --B (talk) 17:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- Immediately undo your actions please, You've now your bit to essentially "win" this dispute which should not be done as per WP:ADMINABUSE, The original size was 1,364 × 5,065 which is what Ron had an issue with - I cropped the image as well as reduced it and no one as far as I know had an issue with this, If you have an issue with the image then you should've started another FFD,
- You were BOLD by further reducing the size however your edits have been reverted so as such your next step should be FFD not' instantly reducing the file and then hiding all revisions,
- My changes were done as a middle ground - It meets fair but also the image can be seen sufficiently - If others disagree with me (and agree with your changes) then I'll leave the file alone but that FFD was inregards to the large file size and not my changes.
- Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- I hadn't realised you were the closer so as such ignore the above reply, It's a shame that you prefer following policies letter by letter over following (or atleast having) some common sense .... In the grand scheme of things all's you've done is rendered an image useless and for what ? ... to satisfy the other admin who's hell bent on everything being at 100 x 100 because "why not" apparently ....
- Your edits have not improved this project nor have they helped our readers .... which is what we're all here for and which is why I enlarged the image ever so slightly, Shame. –Davey2010Talk 23:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Nomination for merging of Template:OP
Template:OP has been nominated for merging with Template:OTRS pending. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 23:47, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
Incorrect message was left on my talk page. I uploaded the image even though there already was a link the bot isn't picking up.
Orphaned non-free image File:The 35th Annual National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences Suncoast Chapter Emmy Award Winners.pdf
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- A link to the list of winners is Suncoast_Chapter#Historical_Emmy_award_winners and has been here.--Wyn.junior (talk) 19:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)