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Contents
- 1 Green watchlist bullets do not turn blue
- 2 Typing consecutive spaces in the Wikipedia iOS app editor causes NBSPs, which can break templates
- 3 Generating a page log
- 4 Editing Wikipedia pages with vi
- 5 Tech News: 2019-13
- 6 Template Hadith-usc is broken because the source website is defunct
- 7 How to move to the new Debian Stretch job grid?
- 8 Almaty
- 9 Broken infobox
- 10 User interaction analyzer not working
- 11 Category:Wikipedians by language
- 12 Strange Memory Behavior on Toolforge with Java
- 13 Yet another bug in the Visual Editor
- 14 The thing that makes things look like a paper letter
- 15 Clickable button on SK Wikipedia
- 16 AFD STATS down
- 17 Pageviews error
- 18 A little technical problem
- 19 Is there a string template/module that 'counts' the number of times a specific character/combination of characters in a string?
- 20 Page move fail
- 21 Template:More citations needed section is a talk page?
- 22 Is there a way to automatically collapse a table on mobile?
- 23 Broken clickable map
- 24 Importing an image from the Icelandic Wikipedia
- 25 Authority control issue
- 26 Talk page button on Kindle gone
- 27 email
- 28 Alignment issue at the signpost
- 29 Noprint and metadata classes
- 30 Template banner illegible
- 31 Template:Percentage bar and Template:Notice interactions
- 32 Workarounds for a glitch in {{#time}}
- 33 Content model help: CSS
- 34 Image size setting
- 35 LUA help needed at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Article list maker
- 36 Capitalisation of modules
- 37 Wikimedia toolforge
- 38 deleted '.css'
- 39 Assessment and tagging bot
- 40 Tech News: 2019-14
- 41 Analytics "pagecounts-ez" not generating
- 42 JS loads are insanely slow
- 43 WikiProject notifications for sister-site activity
Green watchlist bullets do not turn blue
Today is Thursday. And now when I visit a link from my watchlist, and then go back to the watchlist, the green bullet stays green instead of turning blue. This problem occurs even for deleted redlinked pages. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, you just beat me here by like 3 minutes. I've noticed this a couple times today, but in both cases, my watchlist had green bullets for articles in which I had made the most recent edit. If I actually go back to the article, the bullet will go back to blue. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- (Well, now that I say that, a couple of them are now insisting on staying green, even though some have gone back to blue, so I dunno). –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:46, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- They look OK to me in monobook and in vector. Do you have "Use non-JavaScript interface" set in your prefs? — xaosflux Talk 01:24, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- (e/c) GeoffreyT2000, there have been some changes in the watchlist logic this week. Can it be that they work, but are not updated as quickly as you are used to ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm a monobook user and have "unseen changes" set as a filter and "expand watchlist to show all changes" set in preferences. Until recently, if I viewed a change and returned to the watchlist, that change would no longer be showing. Now the item remains stuck in the watchlist. This would seem to be the same problem as above. I think they might clear on browser restart, but I'm not sure on that point – I'll try that in a moment and report.SpinningSpark 13:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm finding that on all the WMF wikis where I'm active, pages are only inconsistently marked as read after I look at the changes. I'm pretty sure this problem started less than 48 hours ago. It's really frustrating and makes my watchlist hard to use. —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
@TheDJ: If this is a timing issue, then it is persistent for an extraordinarily long time. Yesterday, I had items in my watchlist that hadn't cleared after several hours. I eventually dealt with it by "mark all pages visited" nuclear option. There does seem to be some inconsistency - I was looking at the possibility that it was connected with the number of unseen edits on an individual page or whether one viewed the page or the diff, but for the last couple of hours it been somewhat better behaved and I didn't get anywhere with that. SpinningSpark 14:41, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- I now think the way it works is this: if there are multiple unseen edits on a page and the one you look at is not the first one made, then that edit will get stuck on your watchlist, even if you then go back and view the first one, which will also stay stuck. Those who don't have their watchlist expanded to show all edits don't have a choice; they are going to view the last edit and it will stick on the watchlist unless it was the only one made. If you actually make an edit to the page it's taken off the watchlist. SpinningSpark 19:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- To me it seems much more random and inconsistent than that. Sometimes editing the page doesn't even solve the problem—I just edited wikivoyage:Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub, and my own edit (along with the other recent edits to the page) is still displaying on my watchlist as if I haven't yet visited it. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm seeing my own edits that I've just made show up on my watchlist too, whereas previously they hadn't. I often can't clear those pages from the watchlist, even if I visit the current incarnation of the page or view the last diff. Has been happening since 10am Pacific for me. —Joeyconnick (talk) 03:26, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- To me it seems much more random and inconsistent than that. Sometimes editing the page doesn't even solve the problem—I just edited wikivoyage:Wikivoyage:Travellers' pub, and my own edit (along with the other recent edits to the page) is still displaying on my watchlist as if I haven't yet visited it. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Can anything be done about this? Who can I contact to fix this problem? It is still extremely frustrating. —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Mx. Granger: see mw:How_to_report_a_bug. Please share the bug number here for other's benefit after creating. — xaosflux Talk 14:14, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
I suspect this might be fixed with this change. It is a followup change that is part of phab:T188801. Hopefully it can be deployed asap. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:36, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
I'm having the same problem. If I visit a page any way other than by clicking on it on my watchlist, it's not marked as read. TheDJ, Neither of those links are working for me. Is that broken too? Natureium (talk) 18:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- There's an issue at the moment with, among other things, phabricator. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 19:09, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Also an issue: if there's a long list of unseen changes, and I compare the oldest unseen and the subsequent, say, 3 changes (but there are more than 3 changes unseen after that), then return to the article History, it lists all revisions as seen. Definitely not what should be happening, because I haven't seen those other revisions. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:41, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've noticed this issue too. It doesn't interfere with my workflow, so I haven't brought it up, but I can imagine it might bother other editors. —Granger (talk · contribs) 13:53, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
It seems they overfixed this, as I now have the opposite: a page which is marked as "visited" now stays marked as "visited" even after new edits have been made to it (I don't use the green and blue, I use the blue circle / filled blue circle version, FWIW). Fram (talk) 14:58, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- Looking at this further, it seems as if a page stays "read" until a new section is posted, while in the past it changed to unread as soon as anything was posted. I don't know if this change was deliberate or not, but I prefered the old way, certainly since there is no per section watchlisting. Fram (talk) 16:21, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
For me this issue seems to be solved. I haven't encountered the new problem Fram describes. —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:23, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Seems over for me too, thank goodness!!! —Joeyconnick (talk) 18:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I have the opposite problem: after refreshing my watchlist, there are new diffs marked as having being visited, even though I have not. If I go to the history page then they are correctly marked as unread. Has anyone seen this problem? isaacl (talk) 21:21, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- And I spoke too soon: it's back. *sigh* —Joeyconnick (talk) 20:31, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Typing consecutive spaces in the Wikipedia iOS app editor causes NBSPs, which can break templates
What happened here? Some spaces seem to be replaced by spaces of a different kind. After this edit, the items type and fatalities are no longer displayed in the infobox. --FredTC (talk) 07:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Those were "raw" (meaning not encoded like
or 
) non-breaking spaces (NBSP), and those don't work as separators in template parameter assignments like regular spaces do, hence the disappearing items – same thing happens if you replace those spaces with
. --Pipetricker (talk) 10:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)- But how did such spaces get there? I have no way to detect that they are there. When I edit the version I mentioned, and select/copy (ctrl-C) the code for the infobox, then paste it to a notepad.exe file, I cannot see a difference. Can I produce it by accident? How? --FredTC (talk) 11:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Per the tag of the edit you linked to, in this case the culprit was the official Wikipedia iOS app.
- If you want to report this as a bug in the iOS app, go to mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Bug reporting.
- Some text editors highlight NBSPs (for example LibreOffice Writer) or have an option to do so (the Show all formatting marks, ¶, option in Microsoft Word). There are feature requests for MediaWiki at Phabricator:
- --Pipetricker (talk) 15:10, 15 March (UTC), 23:26, 09:38, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- But how did such spaces get there? I have no way to detect that they are there. When I edit the version I mentioned, and select/copy (ctrl-C) the code for the infobox, then paste it to a notepad.exe file, I cannot see a difference. Can I produce it by accident? How? --FredTC (talk) 11:13, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- I found another occurrence of this (another iOS app edit) and have submitted a bug report:
- --Pipetricker (talk) 14:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- I replied to "Can I produce it by accident? How?" at WP:VPM. --Pipetricker (talk) 16:48, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- The translation tool also inserts the 160 nbsp character which I have removed several times while cleaning another of its bizarre habits, most recently at diff. Johnuniq (talk) 23:01, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Generating a page log
What mechanism is responsible for generating a log entry for a given page or action? In particular: why does this command show an entry for the adding of an {{unreferenced}} tag whereas this command does not, even though both articles are tagged with an unreferenced template? More specifically, what would need to happen in order to cause the action of adding a {{PROD}} tag to an article to also generate a log entry for said action? Thank you.--John Cline (talk) 07:19, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @John Cline: the logging of adding maintenance tags, deletion tags, etc is a part of the page curation system (see WP:NPR for more) while just adding the template manually (or semi automatically using twinkle) does not. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:29, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Those log entries are created by new page reviewers (and admins) using mw:Page Curation (Special:Log/pagetriage-curation, Special:Log/pagetriage-deletion). — JJMC89 (T·C) 07:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @John Cline: See [1] for the code that actually adds the log entry --DannyS712 (talk) 07:33, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you both for this information. I am not sure how to use it to reach the end I desire which is an effective method of ascertaining whether or not an article has ever survived the proposed deletion process, effectively retiring that process for the given topic. Right now the determination is entirely too cumbersome to glean yet there are situations where policy stipulations mandate that it must be considered in concert with other pending or contemplated actions. I would like to see this problem solved. Can it be resolved? Thanks again.--John Cline (talk) 09:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Addition of PROD probably should tag the edit as attempted proposed deletion, which is possible with an edit filter I believe. You will need to leave a request at WP:EFN to see. --Izno (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Personally, I would find it very helpful if there was a way of finding out a page's entire move history. Special:Log/move is tied to the title rather than the page itself, so it would only show moves that originated at the current title. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:56, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree. As it stands, an idea to incorperate a bot to assist with this is being pursued here. I recall seeing it mentioned that it would be helpful if evaluating iterations of the page being discussed, where it may have existed under a different title, was part of the bot tasking. King of Hearts it would be great if you look in on that discussion to help ensure that we endeavor a best effort in this regard; I know you have a surplus of insight regarding XfD. Anyone else interested in seeing this done right is not only welcome, as well, they are entreated to help, if they so kindly will. Sincerely.--John Cline (talk) 02:26, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @King of Hearts: Regarding a true move log, it is unclear to me if Mediawiki even retains the information you would need. When researching all previous names, I usually have to do detective work. Diffs in the history don't even seem to remember what article name they were originally diffs of. They proudly announce they are diffs of the current article name, whatever if happens to be at the moment. EdJohnston (talk) 16:03, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Editing Wikipedia pages with vi
What is the keystroke sequence to initiate editing a Wikipedia page with vi? Michael Hardy (talk) 19:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael Hardy: vi as in the *nix text editor? We don't have a 'edit in vi' mediawiki hotkey. You could install text editor extensions in to your browser. What browser are you using? — xaosflux Talk 20:08, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: You're mistaken. It exists. I know it exists because I've entered it accidentally several times. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael Hardy: lately? There used to be an option in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing for "use external editor", but that was removed 5+ years ago. See mw:Manual:External editors. This still required you to configure such an editor (such as vi) in your browser it didn't force a specific application on your computer to launch. You certainly could still have a browser extension for something similar. If anyone else has an idea, hopefully they will chime in and add or correct this below! — xaosflux Talk 21:15, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Within the past couple of days. And a bunch of other times within the past couple of years. One was maybe about a month ago. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- See also Help:Text editor support (though again, these all look like they are on your browser client). — xaosflux Talk 21:40, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: I'm using Google Chrome. I can't say I've ever thought about browser extensions. Is there a quick way to tell whether I have such a thing? Michael Hardy (talk) 21:47, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- See also Help:Text editor support (though again, these all look like they are on your browser client). — xaosflux Talk 21:40, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Within the past couple of days. And a bunch of other times within the past couple of years. One was maybe about a month ago. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael Hardy: lately? There used to be an option in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing for "use external editor", but that was removed 5+ years ago. See mw:Manual:External editors. This still required you to configure such an editor (such as vi) in your browser it didn't force a specific application on your computer to launch. You certainly could still have a browser extension for something similar. If anyone else has an idea, hopefully they will chime in and add or correct this below! — xaosflux Talk 21:15, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: You're mistaken. It exists. I know it exists because I've entered it accidentally several times. Michael Hardy (talk) 21:07, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've never seen it but there is a browser extension known as "it's all text" which I believe can be configured to use whatever editor you like when normally a browser edit window would open. Google that phrase for information. I just copy from the browser edit window to my editor, then copy back if I want to post what I edited. Johnuniq (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) (multiple) This feature was at Preferences → Editing, under the "Advanced options" heading, and was titled "Use external editor by default (for experts only, needs special settings on your computer)". It was always disabled for new and logged-out users, I'm guessing that Michael Hardy must have enabled it at some point after registering. It was removed from Preferences with the deployment of MediaWiki 1.22/wmf2 to English Wikipedia on 22 April 2013; AFAIK the removal of this preference also disabled it for all users who had previously enabled it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:52, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
@Redrose64: @Johnuniq: I'm using a laptop that I bought in 2016. I've never configured it for anything like this nor enable any such features. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:51, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- To see whether any extensions are installed in Chrome: Click the three vertical dots at the top right, then "More tools" and "Extensions". PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: ok, I've done that, and I see no such extension. But the fact remains: I've accidentally stumble into editing a page with vi several times. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Michael Hardy: so just for reference, how do you launch vi normally? (Are you on a *nix variant machine)? Is it pure vi, or vim? — xaosflux Talk 01:34, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: This laptop runs MS Windows, and I've installed vim. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've been using https://github.com/aquach/vim-mediawiki-editor lately; seems to work fine for this purpose. Enterprisey (talk!) 15:39, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: This laptop runs MS Windows, and I've installed vim. Michael Hardy (talk) 01:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have played around with a few external editors tied to browsers, but -- at least to me -- cutting and pasting the source into an external editor, editing (and saving a copy -- occasionally having a copy comes in handy) and pasting it back works really well. Getting off-topic here, but for anyone using Vi or Vim, I highly recommend NeoVim.[2] (In particular. read the section "The Codebase".) [3][4] --Guy Macon (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Tech News: 2019-13
18:04, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Template Hadith-usc is broken because the source website is defunct
Template Hadith-usc generates a URL pointing to a website at USC, but the USC website is permanently defunct since at least Oct. 2018. archive.org seems to have a complete archive of the USC website, and I suggest to modify the template to generate a URL based on archive.org, unless there are better sources. --Happyseeu (talk) 19:50, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Happyseeu: Following up at Template_talk:Hadith-usc#It's_time_to_modify_the_defunct_USC_website_with_a_functional_website -- GreenC 06:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
How to move to the new Debian Stretch job grid?
Greetings - On 23 March,I posted a notice here about enwp10 tool being down. Wondering if anyone here knows how to do this move? It's totally beyond my knowledge. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 00:29, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Documentation is at wikitech:News/Toolforge Trusty deprecation, but migrating tools requires maintainer intervention. Pinging Kelson. The other maintainer listed is "tmoney" but I'm not sure what their username is here.
- Just FYI, there are a LOT of tools that were not migrated to Stretch and probably broke today. Maintainers should have received numerous emails about this over the past two months. — MusikAnimal talk 02:53, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thx JoeHebda, things are under control on our side. Let us know if not. Kelson (talk) 05:04, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Today is the day (for the first time since the toolserver migration 5 years ago), where we will find out how many tools are not being used (broken but no complaints) and how many are not being maintained (complaints but no one to fix them)... —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:13, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Almaty
![](https://web.archive.org/web/20190402045128im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
Please see Talk:Bids for the 2022 Winter Olympics#Map issue. 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:1426:377C:72E2:A4B6 (talk) 07:59, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Broken infobox
Hi! I see in the infobox of this article erroneous text "include" and "back to article". I can't figure it out, can you? 2001:14BA:980E:7700:0:0:0:8EA (talk) 12:48, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
User interaction analyzer not working
"503 Service Unavailable" Amaury (talk | contribs) 15:19, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Probably because Toolforge moved to new servers. User:Σ is this yours by any chance? GreenC 15:28, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- In the more general, why does toolslab have to be so slow and/or crap? Every other day it's giving 404s and 501s etc. Can't the WMF spend just a percentage of its hard-earned (read: given), and provide us with the tools we need to actually improve the encyclopedia? I assume that's what the donations are given towards, rather than merely allowing various unnamed yet by no means unknown characters pissing about in Lear Jets Transatlantic Stylee [/RANT] ——SerialNumber54129 15:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, because we editors do crazy stuff ;) Seriously though, what people don't realise is that keeping things working requires investment by people. All maintainers of these tools received several emails over the last 4 months that they needed to do something because their software was running on 5 year old operating systems that had been deprecated for 3 years. And really in most cases the maintainers didn't have to do much, other than follow several instructions. They did nothing at all however and thus those tools are now down. I don't see how to fix that problem. If anything, this is a result of WMF continuously giving maintainers of tools maximum liberty, while they should have been more forceful 3 years ago to get people to put in the work of upgrading their software. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not to say there isn't a lot wrong with toollabs that can be improved, there most definitely is (but this is also happening, and if you are a toolcmaintainer it is
notablenoticeable). At the same time, there are many tools that haven't seen their official maintainer log in for several years, yet being used by thousands of people. The WMF is not an adoption agency for that code just because it runs on their servers. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:22, 26 March 2019 (UTC)- I'm glad to hear that you appreciate my work. I'm sorry if you feel that I have been shirking my duties, but I must clarify that I am not tech support at the WMF's beck and call.
- The WMF is not an adoption agency for code, but the flip side of that coin is that we editors and tool maintainers have no obligation to do any more work than we want to. Personally, I'll keep doing what I've been doing. But as it is right now, priorities list wise, this will always sit comfortably below doing what it takes to put a roof over my head and keep the lights on. Which should give you one hint to "fix the problem", in my case at least. I hope this helps. →Σσς. (Sigma) 17:32, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Σ, oh don't get me wrong, that wasn't a value judgement of your work, far from it, it is an observation of how this works. This is exactly why often when Wikipedians say "we need more time", "you should give better announcements" etc etc. I note that it is pointless to do so, because volunteers won't do 'low prio' things until stuff starts breaking. Most volunteers just don't have the bandwidth to handle much of this and neither do I personally as a fellow volunteer expect them to (my hiatuses often stretch for months). Within the tech circles of Wikimedia this is also pretty much universally recognized. But that's also what makes these services completely different from the production level services. Having these tools unavailable once in a while is a sacrifice that needs to be made simply because WMF can't go and hire every tool developer fulltime to turn it into a production level service (although they have hired a sizeable portion of them through the years). Simply respecting things for what they are and then working from there to see how to improve them within those constraints is probably more fruitful than passing around blame. The fact is that our tools can virtually grow infinite in number, but our maintainers of them are not, nor usually have access to the tools of those who left. And after 5 years there is now a moment where that became unavoidably visible. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- +1 to TheDJ. The 404s/502s/whatevers are usually because of maintainer neglect. WMF Cloud Services merely provides the infrastructure for volunteers to host their tools. They are not and should not be responsible for maintaining code they didn't write. Yes the platform has problems, many of them, but all things considered it is in my opinion a pretty phenomenal service for being free. From my data, actual percentage uptime (at least on VPS) is somewhere between 3 to 4 nines. Many for-profit websites don't come close to that.
- @Amaury: There is also toolforge:interaction-timeline which provides similar functionality. — MusikAnimal talk 17:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Another one three. -- GreenC 18:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for all the answers, and apologies if it sounded like I was digging anyone out or being particularly unappreciative :) I was not. If anything, it's the WMF I am unappreciative of, as although WP:VOLUNTEER is a sound enough principle for crowd-sourcing an encyclopaedia, it sounds like they could start putting some bloody money into what yous all do. If not by direct payments (although I don't see why not, since the tools directly affect WMF income) then at least with support. Imagine an employee of Google getting 404 when they need to check a copyright status! We might be smaller, but the principle applies, as many of these tools are fundamental to the structure we operate within. Buy the bloody techies a drink for X's-sake! ——SerialNumber54129 19:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Serial Number 54129, I note that several tools services over the last years have been upgraded to production services over the last year based on prioritization by the Community wishlist surveys. From advanced search, to xtools, maps, page view stats etc etc. Please contribute again next year in those surveys to continue that effort and celebrate the goals they are achieving. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for all the answers, and apologies if it sounded like I was digging anyone out or being particularly unappreciative :) I was not. If anything, it's the WMF I am unappreciative of, as although WP:VOLUNTEER is a sound enough principle for crowd-sourcing an encyclopaedia, it sounds like they could start putting some bloody money into what yous all do. If not by direct payments (although I don't see why not, since the tools directly affect WMF income) then at least with support. Imagine an employee of Google getting 404 when they need to check a copyright status! We might be smaller, but the principle applies, as many of these tools are fundamental to the structure we operate within. Buy the bloody techies a drink for X's-sake! ——SerialNumber54129 19:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Another one three. -- GreenC 18:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not to say there isn't a lot wrong with toollabs that can be improved, there most definitely is (but this is also happening, and if you are a toolcmaintainer it is
- Serial Number 54129, because we editors do crazy stuff ;) Seriously though, what people don't realise is that keeping things working requires investment by people. All maintainers of these tools received several emails over the last 4 months that they needed to do something because their software was running on 5 year old operating systems that had been deprecated for 3 years. And really in most cases the maintainers didn't have to do much, other than follow several instructions. They did nothing at all however and thus those tools are now down. I don't see how to fix that problem. If anything, this is a result of WMF continuously giving maintainers of tools maximum liberty, while they should have been more forceful 3 years ago to get people to put in the work of upgrading their software. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- In the more general, why does toolslab have to be so slow and/or crap? Every other day it's giving 404s and 501s etc. Can't the WMF spend just a percentage of its hard-earned (read: given), and provide us with the tools we need to actually improve the encyclopedia? I assume that's what the donations are given towards, rather than merely allowing various unnamed yet by no means unknown characters pissing about in Lear Jets Transatlantic Stylee [/RANT] ——SerialNumber54129 15:37, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for all the answers - no harm at all. Things should be back up now. →Σσς. (Sigma) 21:18, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
While you are here; prep for database changes!
While many tool developers/maintainers are paying attention.. Because of the size of Wikimedia websites and in prepping for future development, several major changes to the core of MediaWiki have been made over the past two years and will be made in the upcoming year.
If your tool talks to the database replicas and does things with editsummaries or log files, usernames, and/or revisions (yes that is a like 90% of what you use that database access for most likely), you should check out the new comment table, the actor table and probably the Slots table if you do a lot with the contents of revisions. At some point in the future, some of the columns that you rely on right now will likely have moved their contents into these new tables and their backwards compatible view will at some point disappear.
For that reason, you should definitely subscribe to the cloud-announce@ mailinglist to keep up to date about the deadlines for such eventual changes.. The one for comments just happened for instance, and since new services on jessie were just made impossible, if you currently run on jessie, now is the time to think about when in the next 1,5 year you are updating your tool, so that when the time comes in 2020, you won't have the same problem as the tools that broke today. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- All of the database reports (except for lists of edit counts) generated by the Bernstein Bot haven't updated in five days when they are typically updated daily. TheDJ, are you saying that it is likely they won't be updated ever again in the future? Because they are necessary for maintenance of the project. I've contacted the bot operator but a fellow editor said on his talk page that this was a WMF issue of deprecation. Liz Read! Talk! 18:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Is PetScan affected by this? I've tried to run some queries today, but they all spin for several minutes before throwing a "502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.13.6" error. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedians by language
It's not possible to easly check which user in these categories was recentlty active. Is there list with users speaking certain language by activity? Eurohunter (talk) 18:47, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Strange Memory Behavior on Toolforge with Java
Hi all, when I run the following command on toolforge:
jsub -once -mem 2g -quiet -j y -o a.txt java -Xmx1G -version
And view the log file:
$ cat a.txt Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not allocate metaspace: 1073741824 bytes
I see an error related to (lack of) memory. Changing the memory values to something crazy seems to yield the desired output.
For example:
$ jsub -once -mem 8g -quiet -j y -o a.txt java -Xmx4G -version
$ cat a.txt
results in the desired output
openjdk version "11.0.2" 2019-01-15 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 11.0.2+9-Debian-3bpo91) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.0.2+9-Debian-3bpo91, mixed mode, sharing)
That leaves me with the following questions
- Is this a bug or the expected behavior?
- Is the latter example the best practice on toolforge these days (i.e. set crazy memory values)?
Thanks in advance. -FASTILY 00:23, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Fastily: I have created phab:T219351 to investigate this issue.
- Thank you to TheDJ for pointing this question out on irc. Broadly speaking bug reports and technical questions about Toolforge should be made via the cloud mailing list, the #wikimedia-cloud connect channel on Freenode, or Phabricator. The various wiki village pumps are not monitored for such reports because of lack of staff to watch pages in 800+ Wikimedia wikis. --BDavis (WMF) (talk) 01:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds good, thanks! -FASTILY 03:38, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Yet another bug in the Visual Editor
There seems to be another bug in the Visual Editor (people tell me there are so many bugs in it). If you have an inline citation you cannot set the insertion point to edit any text to the right of the citation. Has anyone else noticed this? 81.139.163.204 (talk) 11:01, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- works in my browser.. Which browser and version of that browser do you use ? If you know how to, maybe make a screen recording that shows your problem ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:00, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
The thing that makes things look like a paper letter
I remember fairly recently seeing Wikipedia newsletters with a background that looked like a page with a folder corner on the top left. I'm trying to find them again, and I've been searching for half an hour without much luck. Does someone know the CSS class that makes this happen, or failing that, an example of such a newsletter? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:10, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Headbomb: Are you looking for {{Letterhead start}}, {{Letterhead end}}, and Template:Letterhead start/styles.css? --DannyS712 (talk) 15:22, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Clickable button on SK Wikipedia
Hi, can you please look at this? Thanks a lot, --Luky001 (talk) 18:59, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
AFD STATS down
Hey, https://tools.wmflabs.org/afdstats/ fails now, has failed for a day or two at least. Is there something wrong with wmflabs? I am totally out of it, tech-wise, but I like to check on my wp:AFDSTATS. --Doncram (talk) 01:09, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Explained above in #User interaction analyzer not working by the ever-excellent TheDJ. Basically, a thing that tools were running on changed and not everybody running tools changed yet. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 01:19, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Seems fixed. (Thanks, Sigma!) Enterprisey (talk!) 05:45, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Pageviews error
The current featured article is William Matthews (priest). Clicking Pageviews on its history goes here. That displays "Error querying Pageviews API - Unknown". I don't recall using this tool before. Is that a known issue which clears up in due course, or should I hassle its devs? Johnuniq (talk) 02:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq: It works for me. Do you by chance have a privacy or adblock browser extension, such as Privacy Badger? That is a common cause for this tool failing. Otherwise, please share which browser and version you are using. Better, follow the steps at WP:JSERROR, which will give us even more debugging info. Best, — MusikAnimal talk 02:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
A little technical problem
You know those drop down templates found at the bottoms of articles, such as Template:Xiamen? Also know how there are three buttons at the top left on all of them that say "V", "T", and "E", for "view", "talk", and "edit"? I'm on Chrome on a Huawei phone, and none of the buttons work at all. Pressing them only brings up descriptions of the buttons, "edit this template", etc. I can still edit them of course, but it's kind of inconvenient. How do I fix this? Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC) (Originally asked at the Teahouse but later moved here)
- @Woshiyiweizhongguoren: You cannot personally fix this. If anyone can, it will be at Template talk:Navbar. --Izno (talk) 13:02, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Is there a string template/module that 'counts' the number of times a specific character/combination of characters in a string?
For example, if there something that could check
{{character count|\*| Lorem ipsum * ABC * DEF * HIJ }}
{{character count|e| Lorem ipsum * ABC * DEF * HIJ }}
{{character count|G| Lorem ipsum * ABC * DEF * HIJ }}
and return 3 in the first instance, 1 in the second instance, and 0 in the third instance? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
{{#invoke:Text count|main|text=|pattern=}}
where pattern is a Lua pattern, not regex- → 3
{{#invoke:Text count|main|text=Lorem ipsum * ABC * DEF * HIJ|pattern=%*}}
- → 1
{{#invoke:Text count|main|text=Lorem ipsum * ABC * DEF * HIJ|pattern=e}}
- → 0
{{#invoke:Text count|main|text=Lorem ipsum * ABC * DEF * HIJ|pattern=G}}
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:03, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Page move fail
I tried to move Template:Civil Rights Movement-stub to Template:Civil-Rights-Movement-stub in order to correct a format issue. However, none of the contents of the old page was moved to the new page. Not sure what happened. Mitchumch (talk) 17:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: may have been caching or job lag, it appears to be done now - are you still seeing a problem? — xaosflux Talk 17:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch:
fixed the content moved, but the stub template ({{asbox}}) has some special rules - Special:Diff/889896029 solved it. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Template:More citations needed section is a talk page?
Am I going crazy? Why is Template:More citations needed section a talk page? It's transcluded in a bunch of pages. Eman235/talk 17:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC) On a closer look I think it's because Anthony Appleyard messed up a page move. Eman235/talk 17:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Eman235: Because of a page move by @Anthony Appleyard - I reverted the move, but now the prior template needs to be undeleted. I blanked the page, so for now it shouldn't show up on pages when it is transcluded. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch, DannyS712, and Eman235: Sorry. Thanks. (Template:Refimprove section has 3 old deleted edits, but they are all redirects.}} Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:54, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Is there a way to automatically collapse a table on mobile?
WP:CRAPWATCH displays fine on the desktop view, but loading up the mobile website seems to lose the collapsible tables (class="mw-collapsible mw-collapse"). One of the big reasons to make these tables collapsible is to make the mobile view more manageable, so it's a bit annoying that this doesn't work. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- If you are referring to the navbox, which is the only collapsible thing that I see on the page and which is not a table, the navbox class is not displayed on mobile. See WP:NAVBOX. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: do you not see "All 106 MDPI-related entries" in the very first row of the table (Rank 1, MDPI) ? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I suppose I should have searched the page for "show" and "hide" like a smart person. Sorry about that. Anyway, I think your question will need an answer by someone more familiar with the interface configuration files like MediaWiki:Common.js and the other files listed at Template:CSS and JS MediaWiki messages. My guess is that the collapsible show/hide stuff is not rendered on mobile for some reason. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's mostly to display automatically collapsible article content in articles for phones that have old browsers / browsers without javascripts. Wondering if there's a way to bypass that, and support collapsible tables for modern mobile browsers, which do support collapsible tables. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I suppose I should have searched the page for "show" and "hide" like a smart person. Sorry about that. Anyway, I think your question will need an answer by someone more familiar with the interface configuration files like MediaWiki:Common.js and the other files listed at Template:CSS and JS MediaWiki messages. My guess is that the collapsible show/hide stuff is not rendered on mobile for some reason. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: do you not see "All 106 MDPI-related entries" in the very first row of the table (Rank 1, MDPI) ? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Broken clickable map
Something appears to have broken the {{Indian states and territories image map}} clickable map, and a quick check shows that this 2011 edit now throws up a "Invalid coordinate at line 61, must be a number." and subsequent versions don't render (prior versions still work; example). I am assuming this is a recent issue unrelated to an edit made to the particular template, since the error otherwise would surely have been spotted sooner. Anyone have an idea what the issue could be and how to resolve it?
Pinging @Begoon and RaviC: who have been involved with the template and are currently active. Abecedare (talk) 22:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly I'm not too sure. The last time I edited the template was back in 2014, and it was working well back then. Looking at the revision history in 2011, the map was edited to add the shapes of states as polygons as opposed to before, when just a rectangle for a link was present for each state. That could be where the problem lies. I recall adding more polygons to the map using ImageMapEdit. --RaviC (talk) 22:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ok. It was the "
x.y
" coordinate format that was causing the problem (don't ask me why!). Changing it to "x y
" seems to have resolved the issue. Abecedare (talk) 22:54, 28 March 2019 (UTC)- Is it working properly, even after that change? Hovering my mouse over various parts displays two different pointers - an arrowhead for non-sensitive areas, and a finger for sensitive areas. The sensitive areas do not cover the whole map, missing out the southern portions. Clicking on a sensitive area displays a criss-cross tangle of blue lines covering a roughly rectangular shape, before going to the article for the relevant state. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think it is working "as written". The issue you point to is due to the fact that not all states have a clickable area defined by their polygonal boundary corresponding to their borders. Many states (eg, 7, 15 etc) have a clickable area defined by a much smaller rectangle that covers only (approx) the numerical index in the image. The way to resolve this would be for someone to trace the boundaries of the latter group of states and update the template code. The current version is non-ideal but functional. Abecedare (talk) 23:37, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem to be working properly for me as it used to before. I'm not sure why, but the polygons for some states (e.g. Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu) aren't there any more. Clicking near Gujarat brings up a hyperlink for the Siachen Glacier. Something has happened to the template and it probably needs to be rewritten now. --RaviC (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- You are right! What I was interpreting as "
x.y
" coordinates, seems to be just the x- or y-coordinate to two or three decimal places. My converting them to "x y
" made the result acceptable syntactically, but completely mucked up the location of the polygons. So undoing that edit. - It's possible that for some reason 'poly' now accepts only integer parameters; but would be good to know that defnitively before someone puts in the effort to repair or rewrite the template. Abecedare (talk) 02:13, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think your guess was correct. It wasn't much effort to round all the poly co-ordinates to integers using a perl command on a text file of the wikitext -
perl -i -pe 's/(\d*\.\d*)/int($1+0.5)/ge' filename
, so I've done that. There's this recent gerrit commit that's probably related. -- Begoon 02:56, 29 March 2019 (UTC)- @Begoon: Thanks for nailing down the diagnosis and the quick fix. Abecedare (talk) 03:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Abecedare, See also phab:T217087. A change in the behaviour of the php parser, caused these numbers to throw errors. Because of this, the sanitisation was changed to become more strict and instead of implicitly ignoring the floating part, it now creates errors. This also makes our image maps aligned with HTML behaviour of image maps. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:19, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Fwiw, I agree with your comment there that the rounding/typecasting should ideally happen after the scaling. Abecedare (talk) 14:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that loss of precision was my concern with rounding the co-ordinates to integers as I did - but since that was all the extension currently accepts I didn't have much option if we wanted the template to work at all. I've added those thoughts to the phab ticket. -- Begoon 01:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Begoon: You clearly chose the right and only available option, and the extra decimal places most likely represented false-precision in this instance. My comment was more of a pedantic quibble over 'poly' (unlike 'rect') accepting only integer parameters, which makes the graphics less scalable in theory. Of course this would matter only for scale values >> 1 and I'd be hard-pressed to find examples on wikipedia where it makes a practical difference. Abecedare (talk) 01:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- PS: Read Begoon's comment at phabricator and realized that we here are already on the same page and just preaching to the choir :-). Abecedare (talk) 01:44, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, that loss of precision was my concern with rounding the co-ordinates to integers as I did - but since that was all the extension currently accepts I didn't have much option if we wanted the template to work at all. I've added those thoughts to the phab ticket. -- Begoon 01:27, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Fwiw, I agree with your comment there that the rounding/typecasting should ideally happen after the scaling. Abecedare (talk) 14:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Abecedare, See also phab:T217087. A change in the behaviour of the php parser, caused these numbers to throw errors. Because of this, the sanitisation was changed to become more strict and instead of implicitly ignoring the floating part, it now creates errors. This also makes our image maps aligned with HTML behaviour of image maps. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:19, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Begoon: Thanks for nailing down the diagnosis and the quick fix. Abecedare (talk) 03:36, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think your guess was correct. It wasn't much effort to round all the poly co-ordinates to integers using a perl command on a text file of the wikitext -
- You are right! What I was interpreting as "
- It doesn't seem to be working properly for me as it used to before. I'm not sure why, but the polygons for some states (e.g. Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu) aren't there any more. Clicking near Gujarat brings up a hyperlink for the Siachen Glacier. Something has happened to the template and it probably needs to be rewritten now. --RaviC (talk) 00:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think it is working "as written". The issue you point to is due to the fact that not all states have a clickable area defined by their polygonal boundary corresponding to their borders. Many states (eg, 7, 15 etc) have a clickable area defined by a much smaller rectangle that covers only (approx) the numerical index in the image. The way to resolve this would be for someone to trace the boundaries of the latter group of states and update the template code. The current version is non-ideal but functional. Abecedare (talk) 23:37, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Is it working properly, even after that change? Hovering my mouse over various parts displays two different pointers - an arrowhead for non-sensitive areas, and a finger for sensitive areas. The sensitive areas do not cover the whole map, missing out the southern portions. Clicking on a sensitive area displays a criss-cross tangle of blue lines covering a roughly rectangular shape, before going to the article for the relevant state. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ok. It was the "
- Note that, per the phabricator ticket, floating point co-ordinates now work again, so I've reverted to the version before any changes concerning this issue. -- Begoon 05:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Importing an image from the Icelandic Wikipedia
Hi, I'm trying to add this image [9] to this article Logi Már Einarsson. I searched the English Commons but it doesn't exist there. Is there a quick way to import the image to the English Commons? I can use google translate to transfer the Icelandic text to English. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Somedifferentstuff: There is no such thing as "Icelandic Commons", nor is there any such thing as "English Commons". The image is:Mynd:Logi Einarsson.jpg is hosted at Icelandic Wikipedia. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:11, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Looking at the original image, it's taken from the Alþingi website, and appears to be under copyright. Therefore, to use it on English Wikipedia, you need to satisfy all ten of the non-free content criteria; and straight off, I can say that it will fail criterion 1 since the subject is still alive, and so there is a reasonable chance that a free image may be created - perhaps when making a public speech. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redrose64, according to the copyright section on the photo, it says "Höfundaréttshafi hefur veitt leyfi fyrir að nota myndina - The copyright holder has granted permission to use the image." I assume that is because the person in the picture is an active politician and the Alphing is the Iceland government website. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- That being in the template is:Snið:Leyfi-rétthafa. Have they granted permission to Icelandic Wikipedia alone, or to all Wikimedia projects? If the former, they also need to grant permission here (see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials) before we can use it. If the latter, where may the permission be examined?
- It's not "Alphing", it's "Alþingi". The letter "þ", known as "thorn", is pronounced like "th" as in "thing". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:41, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- From Google translate: The copyright holder has granted permission to use the image. It may not be used for marketing or reproduction unless otherwise stated. To the person who uploaded the image: Specify the type of use allowed. All images that can be used for marketing purposes and make reproductions transfer to the Commons. Explanation of fair use. Downloaded wikipedia with informed consent of editor althingi.is; "Portrait photographs of members of the Althingi taken in 2016 and later marked as photographers and with the following text on their permission for re-publishing: The re-use of this photograph is free, provided that the name of the photographer appears where it can be found. In addition, the copyright rights of the author must be respected so that re-use does not improve or alter the author's work to impair his or her authorship or identity." --- Is there a way to tell if this is only for Icelandic Wikipedia? -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 00:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- The files from Althingi where discussed awhile ago at the Icelandic Village pump. One of the users there emailed Althingi, which along with the rights organization of photographers in Iceland decided that the pictures of the congressmen where under an Non-Commercial licence. Their response is quoted in the linked discussion in a comment on November 11 2009, at 23:20 by Jabbi. There is no Icelandic Wikipedia specific restriction on those files, but obviously the Non-Commercial clause does stop them from being transferred to Wikimedia Commons.--Snaevar (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Snaevar, so a government photo can be used on the Icelandic Wikipedia but not the English Wikipedia? I am not well versed on Commons, copyright, etc., but I find that strange. Is it to protect the rights of the photographers? -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- What? No. It is perfectly fine to use the image on the English Wikipedia, given that it passes the rules here. Maybe I did not make that clear enough.--Snaevar (talk) 14:11, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks. So how do I import it? I'm new to working with images in this way. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 13:13, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Snaevar: You claim
it is perfectly fine to use the image on the English Wikipedia, given that it passes the rules here
- in what way does it pass all of the WP:NFCC criteria, particularly criterion 1 No free equivalent? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Snaevar: You claim
- Ok, thanks. So how do I import it? I'm new to working with images in this way. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 13:13, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- What? No. It is perfectly fine to use the image on the English Wikipedia, given that it passes the rules here. Maybe I did not make that clear enough.--Snaevar (talk) 14:11, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Snaevar, so a government photo can be used on the Icelandic Wikipedia but not the English Wikipedia? I am not well versed on Commons, copyright, etc., but I find that strange. Is it to protect the rights of the photographers? -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Redrose64, according to the copyright section on the photo, it says "Höfundaréttshafi hefur veitt leyfi fyrir að nota myndina - The copyright holder has granted permission to use the image." I assume that is because the person in the picture is an active politician and the Alphing is the Iceland government website. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Looking at the original image, it's taken from the Alþingi website, and appears to be under copyright. Therefore, to use it on English Wikipedia, you need to satisfy all ten of the non-free content criteria; and straight off, I can say that it will fail criterion 1 since the subject is still alive, and so there is a reasonable chance that a free image may be created - perhaps when making a public speech. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- So, this isn't a "technical issue". @Somedifferentstuff: there is no "import" process for media from iswiki, assuming it is available under a non-free exemption, you can just download it, then upload it here - and credit the source. If it was actually a free image, you could move it to commons and use it anywhere. Keep in mind, we take image use seriously here (see the comments above) and if the upload violates our rules it will be deleted. — xaosflux Talk 19:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Authority control issue
While editing the article Henry Moskowitz (activist), a "Warning: Page using Template:Authority control with "VIAF", please move this to Wikidata if possible (this message is shown only in preview)." displayed on the screen. Also, there are two Template:Authority control assigned to this article and both have this warning message. I don't know how to fix this issue. Mitchumch (talk) 22:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- This might be better asked at Template talk:Authority control. However, the issue is that the article contains
{{Authority control|VIAF=190653772}}
(and a second) and the warning is saying it should just be{{Authority control}}
and the VIAF value should be placed at Wikidata. To do that, click "Wikidata item" in the toolbox on the left and play around with the VIAF setting. Problem: Wikidata already has VIAF=21135876 with a claim that it was imported from enwiki. Some checking of the VIAF values needs to take place to determine what's going on. There should be only one VIAF, and it should be at Wikidata. Johnuniq (talk) 22:57, 28 March 2019 (UTC)- Both VIAFs are unfortunately valid. VIAF needs to be contacted. --Izno (talk) 03:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, Mitchumch can also be documented at Wikipedia:VIAF/errors —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:47, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- I added entry on Wikipedia:VIAF/errors to section "Two or more VIAF identities for the same article". The two VAIFs were added to article by blocked User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) on 18:56, 28 January 2015. Mitchumch (talk) 11:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- It looks like the bot that maintained that page no longer runs and stopped right around the time Wikidata started, but I don't see if a similar automated process was set up on Wikidata. --Izno (talk) 13:01, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- That would be d:Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P214 - the equivalent exists for every Wikidata property. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- The page exists, but it does not indicate any automatic provision of duplicate IDs to VIAF. --Izno (talk) 13:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Both VIAF and ISNI are federated databases. A close look at the two VIAF records or at the corresponding two ISNI records shows that they originate from different national libraries. One identity [10][11] comes from US and Israel, while [12][13] comes from the Netherlands, Ireland, and France. Each attributes a different birth year (1878 vs. 1880), which may have delayed ISNI in recognizing and resolving the duplication. A simple heuristic of referring to the lowest-numbered VIAFid (the former) will avoid having a duplicate Q number in such cases, and when the VIAF and ISNI deduplicates are eventually done, that lowest number will either be used or redirected. A more challenging problem arises when the VIAF or ISNI records conflate identities, as is almost unavoidable for common names, but this too is well understood by librarians.LeadSongDog come howl! 16:43, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- The page exists, but it does not indicate any automatic provision of duplicate IDs to VIAF. --Izno (talk) 13:50, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- That would be d:Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P214 - the equivalent exists for every Wikidata property. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:06, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, Mitchumch can also be documented at Wikipedia:VIAF/errors —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:47, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Both VIAFs are unfortunately valid. VIAF needs to be contacted. --Izno (talk) 03:30, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Talk page button on Kindle gone
I often browse WP from my Kindle eBook reader, including Talk pages. Up until a few days ago, at the bottom of each article page there was a button to link to the Talk page (it does not appear on my desktop in Chrome). The Kindle browser does not display the usual WP top-of-page menu (talk history &c) so this was very handy. Now the <Talk> button no longer appears. Was this a recent WP change, or do I assume it was a Kindle update? --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 12:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- D A Patriarche, are you still logged in ? The button only shows if you are logged in. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- D A Patriarche I also happen to do that sometimes. Best solution could be to use desktop view by going to the very bottom in mobile view (I think it uses that by default) and pressing "Desktop". SemiHypercube 15:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Aha, that's it! For some reason I've been getting logged out recently despite checking "Keep me logged in". Thanks. --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 18:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
I forgot the password for my account and there's no email attatched, is it possible to put an email onto my account?Muur (talk) 18:28, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Muur as described here: Help:Logging_in#What_if_I_forget_the_password? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:02, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Alignment issue at the signpost
If you write something like
{{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Signpost-block-start-v2}} {{Signpost series|type=sidebar|tag=openaccess|seriestitle=Open Access}} {{Lorem ipsum|2}} {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Filler image-v2|image=File:Circle.svg|size=300px|caption=An image!}} {{Lorem ipsum|3}} {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Signpost-block-end-v2}}
This gives the very crooked/bad looking/misaligned (and how bad it is depends on the zoom level)
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.
Curabitur pretium tincidunt lacus. Nulla gravida orci a odio. Nullam varius, turpis et commodo pharetra, est eros bibendum elit, nec luctus magna felis sollicitudin mauris. Integer in mauris eu nibh euismod gravida. Duis ac tellus et risus vulputate vehicula. Donec lobortis risus a elit. Etiam tempor. Ut ullamcorper, ligula eu tempor congue, eros est euismod turpis, id tincidunt sapien risus a quam. Maecenas fermentum consequat mi. Donec fermentum. Pellentesque malesuada nulla a mi. Duis sapien sem, aliquet nec, commodo eget, consequat quis, neque. Aliquam faucibus, elit ut dictum aliquet, felis nisl adipiscing sapien, sed malesuada diam lacus eget erat. Cras mollis scelerisque nunc. Nullam arcu. Aliquam consequat. Curabitur augue lorem, dapibus quis, laoreet et, pretium ac, nisi. Aenean magna nisl, mollis quis, molestie eu, feugiat in, orci. In hac habitasse platea dictumst.
Fusce convallis, mauris imperdiet gravida bibendum, nisl turpis suscipit mauris, sed placerat ipsum urna sed risus. In convallis tellus a mauris. Curabitur non elit ut libero tristique sodales. Mauris a lacus. Donec mattis semper leo. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Vivamus facilisis diam at odio. Mauris dictum, nisi eget consequat elementum, lacus ligula molestie metus, non feugiat orci magna ac sem. Donec turpis. Donec vitae metus. Morbi tristique neque eu mauris. Quisque gravida ipsum non sapien. Proin turpis lacus, scelerisque vitae, elementum at, lobortis ac, quam. Aliquam dictum eleifend risus. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Etiam sit amet diam. Suspendisse odio. Suspendisse nunc. In semper bibendum libero.
Could someone take at a look at {{Signpost series}} and tell it to behave nicely with Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Filler image-v2 and other v2 templates? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- If you're talking about openaccess sidebar adding padding-left:5em to Lorem, then use
sidebar-v2
as a type. Too bad that it isn't mentioned in template documentation (or maybe it is in some other place?). --MarMi wiki (talk) 23:47, 30 March 2019 (UTC)- @MarMi wiki: fantastic, that works! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Noprint and metadata classes
I noticed that amboxes have the "metadata" class in their code, so I'm trying to find out the differences between that class and the "noprint" class. Also, where can I find the CSS rules for those classes? --CaiusSPQR (talk) 01:05, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- noprint is do not print, metadata means not part of the main content and what happens with such blocks can depend on the medium, the usecase and the transformation or the user. 14:05, 30 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDJ (talk • contribs)
- noprint is in Mediawiki:mobile.css (curiously--I would expect it in print.css :]) and metadata is in Mediawiki:print.css. Example search. --Izno (talk) 14:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, there are many more places where they are listed. Our CSS is generally not 'defined in a single location' as our usecases tend to be very complex. CSS targets classnames, it does not define classnames. Our CSS rules are then delivered when needed. noprint doesn't have to be in MediaWiki:print.css, because it is defined by the core 'print only' CSS style rules, which are only downloaded and activated when you actually print. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:31, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- @TheDJ: I chose deliberately not to comment on the use versus definition--only where it was currently used. Naturally, yes, there must be other locations targeting these classes given that their uses in the above are not sufficient to get us to a print-worthy state. In that regard, .metadata is not used in core and .noprint is used in mediawiki.legacy/commonPrint.css. --Izno (talk) 15:51, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Izno, there are many more places where they are listed. Our CSS is generally not 'defined in a single location' as our usecases tend to be very complex. CSS targets classnames, it does not define classnames. Our CSS rules are then delivered when needed. noprint doesn't have to be in MediaWiki:print.css, because it is defined by the core 'print only' CSS style rules, which are only downloaded and activated when you actually print. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:31, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Template banner illegible
Hi, Can someone amend Template:Assyrian Democratic Movement to make the banner at the top legible (or is it just my eyes/browser/weather conditions)... Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 08:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- ✓ Done ‑ Iridescent 08:30, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Template:Percentage bar and Template:Notice interactions
![](https://web.archive.org/web/20190402045128im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
The percentage bar, on its own, displays fine
However, if you put it in a notice box/mbox, it doesn't
If works fine if you don't use a relative value for width however
Can someone help? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:04, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Wrap bar in div (
<div style="position:relative">{{Percentage bar...}}</div>
- inspiration): - --MarMi wiki (talk) 01:20, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- MarMi wiki, Headbomb like this —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:26, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Workarounds for a glitch in {{#time}}
Template:XFD backlog uses {{#time}} to derive the names of preceding months.
This has worked fine since I created the template two weeks ago, but now it is miscalculating the previous month.
{{#time: M Y |now}}
→ Apr 2019{{#time: M Y |now - 1 month}}
→ Mar 2019{{#time: M Y |now - 2 months}}
→ Feb 2019{{#time: M Y |now - 3 months}}
→ Jan 2019
The second result, for now - 1 month
, is wrong: it should be Feb 2019.
This looks to me like a bug in {{#time}}, probably connected to March being longer than February. If so, similarly glitches will occur at the end of several other months?
Please can someone suggest an elegant workaround? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:21, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: so yes its a bug, but its not really a mediawiki bug, its a php bug, but it's also not really a "bug" but a "feature". Month math only operates on the "month value" so in this case it takes 2019-03-30 and sets it to 2019-02-30, then the php date fixer comes and "fixes" that to 2019-03-02. If you want to do month math, you have to program for it. — xaosflux Talk 17:40, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- You might try this to lower the precision:
{{#time: M Y |{{#time:M Y|now}} - 1 month}}
→ Mar 2019
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 17:44, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks, @Xaosflux and Trappist the monk. That quick and elegant workaround does the job nicely. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
![](https://web.archive.org/web/20190402045128im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
Here's the fix implemented: [14].
And thanks to @Pipetricker: for fixing my typos above. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:59, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Content model help: CSS
Could someone mark Template:Wikipedia Signpost/Research quote/styles.css as a CSS page? I'm not really sure how to do that, or if it's even possible for mortals to do that. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Until phab:T85847 is resolved only admins can do that. – Ammarpad (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Well, hopefully an admin is around. @Anomie: maybe? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:55, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- TemplateStyles gave a new option "Sanitized CSS". mw:Content handlers says "For sanitized CSS intended for use with TemplateStyles". I'm not sure of the difference from the normal CSS setting but it's a template page so I set it to Sanitized CSS. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- The normal CSS type is for use with e.g. MediaWiki:Common.css or user common.css. It doesn't do any validation, just syntax highlighting. The "Sanitized CSS" type validates that the content is valid, known-safe CSS, which means it's safe to be edited by all editors and can be loaded via wikitext with
<templatestyles />
. Anomie⚔ 13:26, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- The normal CSS type is for use with e.g. MediaWiki:Common.css or user common.css. It doesn't do any validation, just syntax highlighting. The "Sanitized CSS" type validates that the content is valid, known-safe CSS, which means it's safe to be edited by all editors and can be loaded via wikitext with
- TemplateStyles gave a new option "Sanitized CSS". mw:Content handlers says "For sanitized CSS intended for use with TemplateStyles". I'm not sure of the difference from the normal CSS setting but it's a template page so I set it to Sanitized CSS. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- There has also been some chatter about giving the permission to template editors, which resulted in a testwiki task at phab:T217499. --Izno (talk) 22:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Well, hopefully an admin is around. @Anomie: maybe? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:55, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Image size setting
Is there a magic word or similar for a user's image size setting? What I'd like to do is set the size of the images in a gallery to the user's default. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:25, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- No, because content cannot vary on potentially 'infinite' things (sizes), it's bad for caching. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:36, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
LUA help needed at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Templates/Article list maker
This is a template that invokes Module:Signpost.
You can make it do fun things, like
Extended content
|
---|
with |sortdir=descending
|start_date=2014-01-01
Extended content
|
---|
with |sortdir=ascending
|breakdate_date=2014-01-01
The issue is that as stories get added, the cutoff date doesn't change. So I'm looking at a way that you can, instead of specifying a cutoff date, you can specify the number of articles to keep in the sidebar. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Capitalisation of modules
I am currently working on creating required modules and templates in Wikipedia Incubator. I would like to know the mechanism through which the name of a module is being converted into uppercase. Take for example, the template Template:View. In that template, the code actually invokes the module navbar. But when checking the list of modules being used from the option 'Templates used', I am able to see the module with the name 'Navbar'. When I checked the redirects present on the 'Page Information' of the module Module:Navbar, I didn't find anything. If anybody know that mechanism, please comment. Adithyak1997 (talk) 10:26, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- MediaWiki automatically converts the first character to upper case in wikis where mw:Manual:$wgCapitalLinks is true, except if mw:Manual:$wgCapitalLinkOverrides overrides it for the namespace.
[[example]]
produces example which links directly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example with no redirect. It's the same with transclusions and module invokations. It isn't even possible to create a redirect at the lowercase title because page names cannot start with a lowercase letter. There is a related feature where https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/example automatically redirects to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example but such redirects are not the same as wiki redirects and they are not used by wikilinks and transclusions. https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php sets wgCapitalLinks to true for all Wikimedia wikis except jbowiki (Lojban Wikipedia) and Wiktionary. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 31 March 2019 (UTC)- But will that work for those projects in Incubator as well? Adithyak1997 (talk) 10:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- It only works for the first character in the whole page name. Incubator uses subpages like incubator:Template:Wp/khw/Navbar for the Navbar template in the khw (Khowar) Wikipedia. At Incubator it can be called with
{{Wp/khw/Navbar}}
or{{wp/khw/Navbar}}
, but not{{Wp/khw/navbar}}
unless a redirect exists like at incubator:Template:Wp/khw/navbar. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:06, 31 March 2019 (UTC)- Thanks a lot. Adithyak1997 (talk) 12:11, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- It only works for the first character in the whole page name. Incubator uses subpages like incubator:Template:Wp/khw/Navbar for the Navbar template in the khw (Khowar) Wikipedia. At Incubator it can be called with
- But will that work for those projects in Incubator as well? Adithyak1997 (talk) 10:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikimedia toolforge
Seems {{Squad maintenance}} in not working. See Template:Real Madrid CF squad "Check completeness of transclusions" and it says "404 Not Found". Pelmeen10 (talk) 12:13, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Pelmeen10, the maintainer of this tool is Chameleon222 a user who seems to have stopped editing in 2015. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:55, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- The source code of the tool is available at [Github]. If anybody is interested, they can adopt that tool and thus become a maintainer of that tool. Adithyak1997 (talk) 13:43, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
deleted '.css'
I get a strange error message now I have deleted a .css in my Bot's userspace, and try to see the history of said deleted page through https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=User%3ACOIBot%2FWhiteList.css:
Permission error
You do not have permission to view a page's deleted history, for the following reason:
The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, Oversighters, Researchers, Checkusers.
I am sure that this has to do with me not being an interface administrator (though my limitation here is not that I am not administrator ..). However, I do object to the fact that I am not allowed to see the deleted history/content, but I am allowed to see the history and current content when the page exists, and allowed to delete it (though it is fully understandable and correct that I am not allowed to restore the file). --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- This is a known issue; phab:T202989. The permission message itself has a problem due to some hardcoding and assumptions about
administrators
group; phab:T203083. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:46, 31 March 2019 (UTC)- @Beetstra: for what it's worth that isn't rally a .css page, it contained one line
# placeholder for list
. If you would like it restored drop a note at WP:IANB. — xaosflux Talk 19:16, 31 March 2019 (UTC) - @Xaosflux: nah, I don't need it, thanks. I was merely interested whether there was a history which I was blocked from and resulted in above sentiment. I agree with the phab ticket that we should be able to investigate history, and that real abuse should be handled by oversight. --Dirk Beetstra T C 19:34, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Beetstra: for what it's worth that isn't rally a .css page, it contained one line
Assessment and tagging bot
I'm trying to set-up a bot to perform assessment and tagging work for Wikipedia:WikiProject Civil Rights Movement, but I'm not sure how to get this started. Mitchumch (talk) 02:44, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: What specifically do you want tagged and assessed? I may be able to help - Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 21 is an open brfa that would assess pages that are already tagged as stubs as stub class, and I previously did a bot run to tag pages for another wikiproject. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:55, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- The project needs a bot to detect and alert the project of any article, draft, etc. that may be related to the WikiProject. The articles or draft may not have a project stub on it. The project already has Inception bot running, but we need a bot that can review older stuff on Wikipedia. Mitchumch (talk) 04:21, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: oh, thats a lot harder. I can generate lists from categories and tag the articles in those, but I don't think I'm the right user to help you out with the rest. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I tried looking at "Article tagging tools" listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide#Use_bots_to_save_work, but I don't posses enough experience to determine which one would be useful. Mitchumch (talk) 04:37, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: If you want to discuss more how I can (try to) help, feel free to post on my talk page, because I ~may~ be able to help, but I don't really know what you are asking for. --DannyS712 (talk) 05:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- You shouldn't need to choose a bot yourself. A number of bots are already approved for this kind of task, and a request at WP:BOTREQ will draw the attention of their operators; one who is willing to take the task will usually step forward fairly soon. What they will want to know are the criteria for tagging - "pages in categories X and Y but excluding pages already tagged for WikiProject Z" is the kind of thing. Please be specific about the categories - avoid saying "... and all their subcategories", since in the past this has led to a lot of mistagging and a great deal of work to undo again. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:25, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I added a request on Wikipedia:Bot requests § WikiProject Civil Rights Movement. Mitchumch (talk) 18:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- You shouldn't need to choose a bot yourself. A number of bots are already approved for this kind of task, and a request at WP:BOTREQ will draw the attention of their operators; one who is willing to take the task will usually step forward fairly soon. What they will want to know are the criteria for tagging - "pages in categories X and Y but excluding pages already tagged for WikiProject Z" is the kind of thing. Please be specific about the categories - avoid saying "... and all their subcategories", since in the past this has led to a lot of mistagging and a great deal of work to undo again. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:25, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: If you want to discuss more how I can (try to) help, feel free to post on my talk page, because I ~may~ be able to help, but I don't really know what you are asking for. --DannyS712 (talk) 05:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I tried looking at "Article tagging tools" listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Guide#Use_bots_to_save_work, but I don't posses enough experience to determine which one would be useful. Mitchumch (talk) 04:37, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: oh, thats a lot harder. I can generate lists from categories and tag the articles in those, but I don't think I'm the right user to help you out with the rest. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- The project needs a bot to detect and alert the project of any article, draft, etc. that may be related to the WikiProject. The articles or draft may not have a project stub on it. The project already has Inception bot running, but we need a bot that can review older stuff on Wikipedia. Mitchumch (talk) 04:21, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Tech News: 2019-14
16:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Analytics "pagecounts-ez" not generating
Talking on the behalf of data master West.andrew.g: The article viewership data source hasn't been updated since the 25th. This is the data source that powers the WP:5000 and from which the WP:Top25Report is derived, and we're already behind one of the weekly reports. igordebraga ≠ 22:39, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I would guess this is a victim of the operating system change on Tools labs. MusikAnimal? --Izno (talk) 23:57, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think dumps.wikimedia.org (production) would be affected by the Debian Stretch upgrade on Toolforge. phab:T219718 comes to mind, which also happened around the 25th, but that is about metrics.wmflabs.org and not dumps.wikimedia.org. So, I'm not sure :( I would contact the Analytics team. — MusikAnimal talk 00:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
JS loads are insanely slow
Am I the only one suffering from painfully slow JS load times? This started today out of nowhere. Everything is slow to load.Cp678 (T•C•G•E) 23:23, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
WikiProject notifications for sister-site activity
If a WikiProject wanted to monitor activity on sister-sites, is there a way to do that through a bot? For example, the Community bot posted a message on Talk:Chicago Freedom Movement stating an image has been nominated for deletion. Is there a bot or some other way for Wikipedia:WikiProject Civil Rights Movement to be notified? Mitchumch (talk) 02:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)