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If process guidelines are met, move templates to the appropriate subsection here to prepare to delete. Before deleting a template, ensure that it is not in use on any pages (other than talk pages where eliminating the link would change the meaning of a prior discussion), by checking Special:Whatlinkshere for '(transclusion)'. Consider placing {{Being deleted}} on the template page.
Closing discussions
The closing procedures are outlined at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Administrator instructions.
To review
Templates for which each transclusion requires individual attention and analysis before the template is deleted.
- 2018 September 10 – Fb_cl_footer ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 September 10 – Fb_cl_break ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 22 – Fb_cl3_qr ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 28 – Fb_r2_header ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 28 – Fb_r2_team ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 28 – Fb_r_footer ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 28 – Fb_r ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 19 – Fb_cl2_team ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 19 – Fb_cl2_header_navbar ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2018 April 19 – Fb_cl_header ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Would it be possible for a bot to convert the transclusions of these templates to Module:Sports table? S.A. Julio (talk) 23:50, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- Should be doable, yes. Primefac (talk) 00:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- I could probably do something while I am converting all the
{{Fb team}}
templates. But, I will have to see how complicated the code is. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)- @Plastikspork and Primefac: Can your bots using Module:Sports table instead in this case, such as [1]? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 04:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hhhhhkohhhhh, sure. That particular template only had one use, and that use was in userspace, and the title of the page was "concept", so I didn't bother to fully convert it. But in general, the plan is to convert the various table/cl header/cl footer/cl team templates to use sports table. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 12:41, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Plastikspork and Primefac: Can your bots using Module:Sports table instead in this case, such as [1]? Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 04:14, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- I could probably do something while I am converting all the
- Should be doable, yes. Primefac (talk) 00:22, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
- Would it be possible for a bot to convert the transclusions of these templates to Module:Sports table? S.A. Julio (talk) 23:50, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
- 2019 February 11 – PH_16_cities ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- @Izno: as the original nominator of this template, could I get you to tackle it? I'm not too familiar with the topic... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: It looks like Nigej actually read the
screedcontent; perhaps he can get together a sentence or two to subst into the articles of interest. --Izno (talk) 03:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)- @Izno:, @Zackmann08: The issue relates to a controversial decision to grant city status to 15 municipalities in the Philippines, which was eventually accepted - so they are cities now. Currently most of the 15 articles have this long section in their articles. League of Cities of the Philippines vs. COMELEC has all the details anyone could possibly want, Cities of the Philippines#"League of 16" and legal battles has less detail, Cities of the Philippines#Motivations for cityhood (last paragraph) is meant to be a summary, but misses out the final important decision. The last paragraph of Cities of the Philippines#Motivations for cityhood could be used (after being updated) to replace the excessively long and detailed stuff that is currently in most of the 15 city articles. Happy to give it a go if everyones happy. Nigej (talk) 08:52, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: It looks like Nigej actually read the
- @Izno: as the original nominator of this template, could I get you to tackle it? I'm not too familiar with the topic... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- 2019 March 7 – Largest_cities_of_Gabon ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Could anyone explain why this was the only one kept? --Gonnym (talk) 20:31, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Gonnym: my guess is that it is the only one with multiple uses? This one is transcluded on 4 pages. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:37, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Could anyone explain why this was the only one kept? --Gonnym (talk) 20:31, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
****It might be my fault Gonnym. I might have missed it when I was switching from the "being discussed" template to the "speedy delete" template. That was a long list and it seems to have slipped by. As I could find no transclusions for it so I've switched to the correct template now. MarnetteD|Talk 20:41, 20 March 2019 (UTC) Ack - it was a redirected so I removed the template. MarnetteD|Talk 21:21, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- 2019 March 11 – Metadata_South_Africa ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 11 – Metadata_South_Africa/muni/area ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 11 – Metadata_South_Africa/muni/population ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 11 – Metadata_South_Africa/muni/race ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 11 – Metadata_South_Africa/muni/langs ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
To merge
Templates to be merged into another template.
Arts
- 2018 December 5 – Infobox_comics_genre ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 5 – Aeiou ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) merge to {{Austriaforum}}
- 2019 February 20 – Infobox_online_music_service ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 20 – Infobox_online_service ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 16 – Three_Men_in_a_Boat ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 16 – Jerome_K._Jerome ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
Geography, politics and governance
- 2018 April 13 – Infobox_historic_subdivision ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) – merge to {{Infobox former subdivision}}
- On hold pending outcome of this tfd --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 04:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- 2019 January 29 – S-fam ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) to be merged into {{Ahnentafel}}
- If this merge is to take place then considerable work will need to be done so that
{{Ahnentafel}}
can present ancestry trees from right to left (currently it can only display left to right). -- PBS (talk) 10:11, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- If this merge is to take place then considerable work will need to be done so that
Religion
- None currently
Sports
- None currently
Transport
- None currently
Other
- 2018 December 14 – Decimals ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 4 – When_in_sandbox ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 March 4 – Sandbox_other ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
Meta
- Merge with Template:Infobox Chinese
- 2017 April 7 – Infobox name module ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2017 May 26 – Infobox East Asian name ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Merge with Module:TableTools
- 2018 May 13 – Module:Table ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 20 – Module:Array_length ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 January 14 – Mlx ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 January 14 – Mlix ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases ) - move to Template:Mlx
- Merge with Module:String
- 2019 February 18 – Module:Str_endswith ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 18 – Module:Text_count ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 23 – Module:PatternCount ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Merged module written in sandbox. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 20:28, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- 2019 March 7 – Module:Vandal-m ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Merged module written in sandbox (although much of the coded I added to Module:UserLinks should probably be in Module:UserLinks/extra instead. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
To convert
Templates for which the consensus is that they ought to be converted to categories, lists or portals are put here until the conversion is completed.
- 2019 February 18 – Module:String_count ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- This should wait until the other merges involving Module:String are done. Pppery, the demodulator 01:50, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- 2019 February 18 – FCC_history_cards ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 12 – New_Hampshire_Union_Leader_Institutional_Pedigree_Chart ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- 2019 February 22 – Infobox_Finnish_municipality ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- @Apalsola, Pigsonthewing, and Pppery: point of clarification on this one... Are we also eliminating all the subtemplates? {{Infobox Finnish municipality/population count}}, {{Infobox Finnish municipality/sea area}} etc. I would assume so but I just want to double check before I start my work. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:36, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- If this information can be fetched from Wikidata, then these templates may be deleted. However, keeping this information up-to-date manually on each and every page is not an option. ––Apalsola t • c 13:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: actually that is an option... That is how 99% of settlement pages work... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, and that is the exact reason the data is often obsolete and inaccurate which is not the case for the articles about the municipalities of Finland. Until now. ––Apalsola t • c 16:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: updating one convoluted array of data in a template doesn't help. Update the pages that the data is associated with. Anyway, this discussion has already been had at the tfd. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: "updating one convoluted array of data in a template doesn't help"? Well, it took me about 30 minutes to fetch the up-to-date (2019-01-31) population data from Statistics Finland, to convert it to the format used in {{Infobox Finnish municipality/population count}} and to update the template. And I even did not have a script or bot to do it, so there was still some manual work. Good luck in updating each individual page in that time. About the tfd, for me the consensus seems to be that a replacement is needed. That means something to replace the functionality of the template, such as fetching the data from Wikidata, not going back to manual editing of each and every pages. I am happy to open a new tfd if that is needed for not going back to the 1990s when all web pages were updated manually without any automation. ––Apalsola t • c 19:12, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: updating one convoluted array of data in a template doesn't help. Update the pages that the data is associated with. Anyway, this discussion has already been had at the tfd. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, and that is the exact reason the data is often obsolete and inaccurate which is not the case for the articles about the municipalities of Finland. Until now. ––Apalsola t • c 16:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: actually that is an option... That is how 99% of settlement pages work... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 16:21, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, when the data can be fetched from wikidata it is ok to switch to it and I am actually waiting for that. However this is not currently possible as only coordinates, photos and webpage comes from wikidata. Also there were no rationale why it would be good idea for going back to to edit manually every single page in tfd or here. Would be nice to hear why it would be a good idea or needed.--Zache (talk) 19:31, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: It seems that you just decided to do the change in middle of the discussion? If i undestand correcly you volunteered make wikidata integration with same speed. --Zache (talk) 19:55, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zache: I am performing the change that was already discussed and closed at TFD. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: as I already stated in my previous comment, that tfd required us to have a replacement with similar functionality. Manual updating of statistical data in individual articles does not count as similar functionality. ––Apalsola t • c 20:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: It is the same functionality performed by any other settlement page on here. To come in AFTER the tfd has been closed as delete and try to rehash the argument is not how this works. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: those same arguments were stated in the tfd by me and other users. Completely ignoring them is not how this works either. ––Apalsola t • c 20:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: It is the same functionality performed by any other settlement page on here. To come in AFTER the tfd has been closed as delete and try to rehash the argument is not how this works. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: as I already stated in my previous comment, that tfd required us to have a replacement with similar functionality. Manual updating of statistical data in individual articles does not count as similar functionality. ––Apalsola t • c 20:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zache: I am performing the change that was already discussed and closed at TFD. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Zackmann08: It seems that you just decided to do the change in middle of the discussion? If i undestand correcly you volunteered make wikidata integration with same speed. --Zache (talk) 19:55, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- If this information can be fetched from Wikidata, then these templates may be deleted. However, keeping this information up-to-date manually on each and every page is not an option. ––Apalsola t • c 13:14, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola, Pigsonthewing, and Pppery: point of clarification on this one... Are we also eliminating all the subtemplates? {{Infobox Finnish municipality/population count}}, {{Infobox Finnish municipality/sea area}} etc. I would assume so but I just want to double check before I start my work. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:36, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Apalsola: that is a fair point. Upon further review I have reverted my changes. Personally I feel that there was a clear consensus, but your objections show that things may not have been so clear. At the very least it warrants further discussion before any action is taken (at least any action by me). --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:50, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
To substitute
Templates for which the consensus is that all instances should be substituted (i.e. the template should be merged with the article) are put here until the substitutions are completed. After this is done, the template is deleted from template space.
- 2019 March 9 – PBB_Summary ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
- Please note the TFD Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 9#Template:PBB Controls states that these PBB templates are to be deleted not substituted. Does anyone know how they are to be merged with the article? MarnetteD|Talk 16:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: in this case I think subst is basically deletion... See this diff for example. The template was just a wrapper for a bunch of information so that the bot could work with it. The content is still important to keep on the page, it just doesn't require these templates to show it. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:45, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation Zackmann08. If I understand your point we just remove the PBB wrappers (for want of a better word) and leave the information contained therein. MarnetteD|Talk 21:14, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: that is my understanding, yes. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- MarnetteD and Zackmann08, are you sure you want to manually do over 3k instances of these instead of asking for a bot to do it? --Gonnym (talk) 19:17, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- Gonnym thanks for asking. Both of these are a bit tricky - especially the summary one. There is info contained in the template that has to be left in the article. I'm sure you know more about bots than I do so if one can be programmed to do this that is fine. Otherwise, I don't mind plugging away at them. As a wikignome that is what I am good at :-) MarnetteD|Talk 19:33, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- MarnetteD and Zackmann08, are you sure you want to manually do over 3k instances of these instead of asking for a bot to do it? --Gonnym (talk) 19:17, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: that is my understanding, yes. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation Zackmann08. If I understand your point we just remove the PBB wrappers (for want of a better word) and leave the information contained therein. MarnetteD|Talk 21:14, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: in this case I think subst is basically deletion... See this diff for example. The template was just a wrapper for a bunch of information so that the bot could work with it. The content is still important to keep on the page, it just doesn't require these templates to show it. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:45, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- Please note the TFD Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 March 9#Template:PBB Controls states that these PBB templates are to be deleted not substituted. Does anyone know how they are to be merged with the article? MarnetteD|Talk 16:13, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
To orphan
These templates are to be deleted, but may still be in use on some pages. Somebody (it doesn't need to be an administrator, anyone can do it) should fix and/or remove significant usages from pages so that the templates can be deleted. Note that simple references to them from Talk: pages should not be removed. Add on bottom and remove from top of list (oldest is on top).
- None currently
Ready for deletion
Templates for which consensus to delete has been reached, and for which orphaning has been completed, can be listed here for an administrator to delete. Remove from this list when an item has been deleted. If these are to be candidates for speedy deletion, please give a specific reason. See also {{Deleted template}}, an option to delete templates while retaining them for displaying old page revisions.
- None currently