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How many featured articles are there on English Wikipedia?
I thought this would be a simple question to answer, but so far I've come up with 5 different answers:
- 4,785: Category:Featured articles
- 4,834: Wikipedia:Featured articles
- 4,844: Category:FA-Class articles
- 4,937: Featured article badges in Wikidata
- 5,823: Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Statistics
Any idea which of those (if any) is the correct answer? Kaldari (talk) 22:49, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- 4,834 is the right answer. You can verify this by dumping the wikitext of WP:FA into a text editor or something like Excel, getting rid of the header material, and sorting it to separate the section headings. I just did that and the answer agrees with the number on that page. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:56, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- I should add that the reason that that's the right answer is that an article becomes an FA when it is added to that page, and stops being an FA when it is removed, so whatever the number is on that page is by definition the right answer. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:58, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Mike Christie: Thanks for the reply. I'll see about syncing some of those other sources with the canonical number. Kaldari (talk) 23:03, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'd be curious to see what you find out. Perhaps you could drop a note with the results at WT:FAC? I'm sure a few other regulars there would be interested to know what you come up with. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:06, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Mike Christie: Thanks for the reply. I'll see about syncing some of those other sources with the canonical number. Kaldari (talk) 23:03, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- I should add that the reason that that's the right answer is that an article becomes an FA when it is added to that page, and stops being an FA when it is removed, so whatever the number is on that page is by definition the right answer. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:58, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- 4,834 is indeed the right answer, as Mike says, since the list at WP:FA is definitive. I have run the category and the "links on page" through AutoWikiBrowser, and fixed some dablinks/redirects on WP:FA in the process (and also removed one non-FA from the category). Don't trust the displayed figure of "pages in category" of 4,785, or whatever it may be, since the category has the usual lag (as explained on every category page). The category actually has 4,826 articles. WP:FA has 4,834 FAs. The "missing" 8 are very recent promotions where the bot has yet to add the FA star and close the nomination. I wouldn't trust any Wikidata figure, particularly as it can't distinguish between the FA star and the Featured Portal star (e.g. that query includes Portal:Anglicanism as having a "featured article" star, when it doesn't use that template), and the Version 1.0 statistics are obviously faulty. (If an FA is assessed as high importance for one project and low importance for another, I guess that it is counted twice). BencherliteTalk 23:33, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- The FA-Class categories are bloated because (a) some WikiProjects use FA-class for featured lists e.g. see Talk:List of Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross recipients (A), which is a featured list but in Category:FA-Class Nazi Germany articles; and (b) sometimes the categories are inaccurate e.g. Talk:Sperm whale is a GA but until I fixed it it was in a FA-class for a WikiProject. BencherliteTalk 23:42, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
- (update) FACBot has run, and added FA stars to the newest 8 FAs. There are now 4,834 articles in the category and 4,834 listed at WP:FA. There are now no more GAs or lower wrongly hiding in a FA-class assessment category, as far as I can see; I've fixed some but not all of the FLs listed as FAs, too. BencherliteTalk 00:28, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
A suggestion. Since this appears to be a question that is destined to be asked again, perhaps the fact of where the canonical list/number of Featured Articles can be found ought to be recorded on one of the related pages. (I didn't know that answer until now, & wouldn't know where to look to find it.) -- llywrch (talk) 16:29, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
RfC on Violence against men.
Category talk:Violence against men#Which version is better?. jps (talk) 18:14, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
Wiki loves monument banner links to a Spanish web site
Why is "Wiki loves monument" banner displayed on top of every page links to a Spanish web site http://www.wikilm.es/?pk_campaign=Centralnotice ? I don't speak this language Mascarponette (talk) 10:23, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Mascarponette: The banner is geotargeted and has different versions. Are you accessing Wikipedia from Spain or a Spanish IP address? Each participating country organizes its own photo contest which is advertised at wikis in different languages. See commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2016 for general information in English. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: Thanks for your answer, I was using web client in New York city, it seems geolocalization isn't reliable. after investigation it seems the ip address belongs to my company based in France but when I use various geolocalization services found on the web, one says I'm in Italy, another one in Spain... Why not using language of the wiki server instead ? Mascarponette (talk) 17:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Mascarponette: There are some obsolete links around but I think we currently use geolocation software whose result can be seen at https://freegeoip.net/xml/XXX where XXX is the IP address. We don't actually use freegeoip.net. They just provide an interface to the same software as we (possibly) use.
- Wiki Loves Monuments is not language based but country based. You take photos of monuments in a country and submit them to a photo contest for that country. If you are believed to be in Spain then you presumably have acccess to monuments in Spain. Spanish is the main language for the contest in Spain. Many countries have no contest (for example mine so I get no banner), while several English speaking countries have separate contests. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:22, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: Thanks for your answer, I was using web client in New York city, it seems geolocalization isn't reliable. after investigation it seems the ip address belongs to my company based in France but when I use various geolocalization services found on the web, one says I'm in Italy, another one in Spain... Why not using language of the wiki server instead ? Mascarponette (talk) 17:47, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Repetition of Welsh place names: disambiguation pages or content pages?
I'm new to this section so please redirect me if it's the wrong place for this query. I've been puzzling over the fact that Welsh isn't as varied as English in terms of place names so a disambiguation page seems to meld into becoming a content page. See, for example, Llanarmon. This is a village name that refers to a prominent local feature, the church. It literally means St Garmon's Church. There are lots of Llanarmons, all meaning the same thing, just in different places. Similarly, Pentre means village, though Wikipedia currently only seems to refer to one of the numerous places with that name. It is possible to repeat the origin of a name on every single page that is an instance of that name, but it seems to make more sense to have a single source of truth on a central page, especially if it is slightly controversial. (An example of such a controversy might be where an early saint went on a stomp around Wales founding churches, but nobody documented exactly who he was so there are two or three candidates.) But is that then a disambiguation page or a content page? Or does it not matter! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tessthepuppy (talk • contribs) 19:06, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
- A list of entries which share a nmae is appropriate for a disambiguation page, since such a page is explicitly tere as a navigational aid and not part of encyclopedic content; however, merely sharing a nmae is usually not encyclopedic enough to justify a content page. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:44, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, that works for English place names, but I'm wondering if a Welsh place name like Llanarmon should be a content page rather than a disambiguation page, in the same way as 'felidae' contains a range of sub-cats and 'dog' contains different dogs. There is no Llanarmon that isn't named after a church of St Garmon, I don't think, so ?perhaps it makes sense to explain what the name means and discuss debates over that then link to examples of it. Or does anyone disagree? I wouldn't say the same for an English place name, because English doesn't generally have multiple repetitions of such generic place names as 'homestead' or 'village'. The alternative is to repeat identical (hopefully!) information on multiple pages so that each instance of a village with the same name contains details of the origins of the name.Tessthepuppy (talk) 16:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Manual of Style: best practice for linking to page sections
A discussion had been started at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking § Linking to sections of articles about whether to use the link formats [[Article#Section]]
or [[Article#Section|name of link]]
in articles, as opposed to a separate redirect page to the desired section. —Coconutporkpie (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)