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Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Batman in film which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 10:14, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
James Bond in film 'plagiarism' mention in Thunderball (1965) section
I inserted an internal link to the 'plagiarism' word in the Thunderball(1965), which editor SchroCat understandably reverted. However, I do have a couple of problems with this article concerning the topic. I think that the word 'plagiarism' is a both bit too strong and confusing here. Because it is essentially accusing Ian Fleming of plagiarism when he in fact was the one that created the character, and his ideas were also part of the screenplay as per the (apparent) negotiated settlement of the court case. As such I have changed it to 'breach of copyright' which reflects an earlier statement and then link to the other internal Wikipedia article on Thunderball(novel). That way, a reader can at least search on one of those terms and find it in the article. But if he searches on 'plagiarism' he finds no mention let alone link about 'plagiarism' in the article. It is also confusing, as the reader is left asking "what plagiarism case" and "who is involved." Not that Fleming was involved with a court case with one his screenwriters. Nodekeeper (talk) 13:02, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
- Except that 1. It was plagiarism, and 2. Fleming was involved in a court case. - SchroCat (talk) 13:11, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
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- I find it rather shocking that good faith contributions to this page are consistently reverted with very little comment, and discussion is so often dismissed with not much more. I would hope that if one is going to insist that something is plagiarism he or she would take a few lines to explain why. Simply putting "it was" as your explanation does little to illuminate anything for anybody. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TuringsTest (talk • contribs) 09:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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- Thanks for not AGF. If you had bothered to look at the article you would have seen that Nodekeeper's comment is present on the page, unsullied, untouched and unreverted. I have replied to his comment here, pointing out inaccuracies, but his edit still stands. You wish to add anything else? - SchroCat (talk) 12:27, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
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- It his hard to assume good faith when one's comments are consistently impolite. The article was read, the comments were seen. My constructive criticism is to add more to illuminate your point of view. You say it was plagiarism, you must have some sort of reference or insight. Present it and inform, as others can benefit. It isn't you against the world here...consider reading your changes and your responses and determine whether others might consider the lot antagonistic. If not, before you consider dismissing my comments again, try to determine what "You wish to add anything else" does to help the situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TuringsTest2 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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- I find little constructive in your comments, and even less good faith, being as snarky and pointy as they are. You accused me of reverting when I had done nothing of the sort, so don't throw round unfounded and idiotically wrong accusations; if you do, you will normally get a rather pithy response, and that will be down to your comment, not the person relying. I also lose my good faith when I see two single purpose accounts (obviously linked) coming along with the sole purpose of attacking me; the same drive-by newbie twice, or an already-registered editor trying to hide their "real" identity, I wonder.
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- As to the substantive point in hand, the plagiarism connection is in the already cited sources. If you could try and think about it properly (or, perhaps, try looking into it before leaving another pointy message) plagiarism is using the work of another and passing it off as your own to enhance your own reputation, which is what Fleming did. In addition to that, he also simultaneously breached the UK's copyright legislation, as there is a certain amount of overlap between the two. Now, you wish to add anything else? (And try and keep it les snarky and pointy this time ...) - SchroCat (talk) 06:34, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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Universal Exports
Universal Exports redirects here. Many times in the novels (ahnd films) Bond's globe trotting cover story or "legend" is that he is traveling as a representative of Universal Exports. Yet there is no mention of Universal Exports in the article. I believe this is a serious oversight. -- Naaman Brown (talk) 13:35, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're looking at, but Universal Exports redirects to Motifs in the James Bond film series#Receiving assignment from M. There certainly shouldn't be any mentioon of it in this article, as it concerns the history of the production of the films. - SchroCat (talk) 14:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Linking
I've tried to provide a link to the film Never Say Never Again in the section of Never Say Never Again, as it seems obviously helpful. When you have an entire section on a subject, it's nice to be able to click straight to that subject without scrolling back to the lead (especially in an article as long as this) or, worse, having to look through the entire article for the one other time that link appears. This is why we have hyperlinks. Yes, I get we don't want to overlink, but I don't think this is in danger of being a problem in this case. Basically every other section about one of the films has a link to that film within that section (and any that don't really should). It's common sense. Can we please let this helpful link stand without it being reverted? -R. fiend (talk) 21:16, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Removing the ToC limit
Similar to my request in List of James Bond films, the ToC as it currently is, makes finding a specific film entry incredbily difficult. It assumes the reader knows what producers produced the film or what year the film came out. As most readers come to search for a film, without them knowing this, limiting the ToC with {{TOC limit}} is completely unhelpful.
If there isn't any objection, I'd like to remove this template as it currently ruins a GA article readability. --Gonnym (talk) 07:57, 19 May 2015 (UTC)