Contents
- 1 A technical group for dispute resolution
- 2 DYK for Larycia Hawkins
- 3 Merging
- 4 Vote for Muhammad
- 5 Nomination of Hadith of Jesus Praying Behind Mahdi for deletion
- 6 Disambiguation link notification for January 25
- 7 DYK for Kashf-e hijab
- 8 plz help us
- 9 DYK nomination of Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid
- 10 DYK nomination of Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare
- 11 Disambiguation link notification for February 6
- 12 Template:Did you know nominations/Auxiliary Nurse Midwife (ANM)
- 13 DYK for Disabled Iranian Veterans
- 14 DYK for Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid
- 15 Al-Shayk Al-Mufid
- 16 Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid
- 17 Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan
- 18 Merger discussion for Fajr decade
- 19 DYK for Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare
- 20 Assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists
- 21 Discretionary sanctions notice - American politics
- 22 ANI
- 23 A page you started (Saudi-led intervention in Bahrain) has been reviewed!
- 24 GOCE
- 25 Rollback granted
- 26 About this WP:ANI discussion
- 27 Autopatrolled granted
A technical group for dispute resolution
Salam Alaykum Eid al-Milad al-Nabi Mubarak.
There are many Islamic-related articles which may become controversial between Muslims and non-Muslims or different Islamic Madhabs. Following our succesful attempts to improve the lead of Ali and current effort in Taqiya, I suggest forming a "technical group for dispute resolution" in WP:Islam. I hope this effort pave the road to solve more severe controversies such as Islamic terrorism.--Seyyed(t-c) 07:28, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- Seyyed: I congratulate this great Eid, too. It's a smart scheme to solutions and I support that. I saw that you had also invited some other users, hence I'd like you to invite GregKaye Nannadeem and SheriffIsInTown. Mhhossein (talk) 08:00, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Seyyed plz ref our discussion at talk page of [1]. Kindly go through my sandbox here [2]. I intend the italic version could be incorporated appropriately. I will act per advice (however now a days delay on my part is beyond my control). Mhhossein Thanks for referring this inferior in your efforts. Nannadeem (talk) 16:36, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
DYK for Larycia Hawkins
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Merging
The content was merged here (see edit summary). The consensus to merge is here. Obviously, merging this content to Names of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant would also be fine. My very best wishes (talk) 14:52, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- My very best wishes: Thanks for your quick, comprehensive and civil response. Thanks for making creating the Rd. Mhhossein (talk) 17:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Vote for Muhammad
Talk:Muhammad#RFC for opening sentence in the lede Please vote. 92slim (talk) 03:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC) 92slim (talk) 03:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Nomination of Hadith of Jesus Praying Behind Mahdi for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hadith of Jesus Praying Behind Mahdi is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hadith of Jesus Praying Behind Mahdi (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 06:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
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DYK for Kashf-e hijab
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
plz help us
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List_of state visits to Iran#improve. Thanks. Shahin (talk) 19:51, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- plz add every heads of state u know who had traveled to Iran.tnxShahin (talk) 16:47, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid
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DYK nomination of Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare
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It looks like the nominator has made some attempt to resolve close paraphrasing (diff). An update on the nomination page would be very appreciated to reduce the backlog. Thanks, Jolly Ω Janner 04:08, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Janner: Thanks, but as usual the nominator would better ping me when he is finished. Mhhossein (talk) 04:37, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
DYK for Disabled Iranian Veterans
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DYK for Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid
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Al-Shayk Al-Mufid
Hello, Mhh. I can copy-edit this, but only slowly, as am still not very well, I'm afraid. Thanks for the new year greetings you sent, and my best wishes to you for the next year on the day that you celebrate the new year, which I think is your first day of spring, isn't it? ~ P-123 (talk) 18:54, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have finished most of the copy-editing, but further tidying up is needed, and I will have a few queries. ~ P-123 (talk) 23:56, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid
In response to a request for a copy-edit of the article on Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid posted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, I have pretty much finished copy-editing the article. There are just two things I have to ask you about:
1) In the section Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid#As a theologian is the following sentence:
- Al-Mufid tried to defend the role of reason – he described it as Al-Nazar – and also disputed for the truth and put away faults with the help of argument and proofs.
Both phrases, "disputed for the truth" and "put away faults", are not clear. I suppose dispute is used in the meaning of "debate" (see definition 2 in the linked Wiktionary entry); "debate" is not the most common definition, but even if you use it with that meaning, it is not usually followed by "for", so that's a bit puzzling. I'm thinking either
- disputed with other scholars in a quest for the truth,
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Regarding "put away faults", I'm not sure what you mean. Perhaps
- analyzed faults
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or something else.
2) In the section Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid#Prophecy, the last sentence is:
- Although he took care to make a distinction between an apostle and a prophet as the Quran does, he did not believe that there was a difference in their functions, which enabled him to the levels of the prophets and the apostles except in terms of their names.
The part after "which enabled him" is not clear. I have no idea what is meant, so I cannot fix it. Also, it's not really clear to what the relative pronoun "which" refers. What enabled him to [whatever]? Not believing that there was a difference? Or "their functions"? You've got to work on this sentence. I'll try to help you word the sentence once I understand what you want to say. Corinne (talk) 03:18, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you Corinne, but as you see above, P-123 a member of WP:GOCE had already started copy editing the article. I think P-123 can answer your first question better. Regarding your second question I should tell you that something was missing and I added it. Is it clear now? Mhhossein (talk) 05:32, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, that's better. But regarding the copy-edit, you posted a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, and no one had indicated he or she had accepted the assignment. When an editor accepts a copy-editing assignment, s/he is supposed to add the {{Working}} template after the request and post the {{Done}} template there when finished. I had no idea another editor had accepted the assignment. I didn't look on this page until I had finished the copy-edit. I'll let P-123 take over from this point. Corinne (talk) 04:04, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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- 1) I also am not sure what this sentence means: "Al-Mufid tried to defend the role of reason – he described it as Al-Nazar – and also disputed for the truth and put away faults with the help of argument and proofs." Can you put it in other words, the way we did before once with a Wiki article? Then I can copy-edit.
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- I think that is everything. I can finish copy-editing when I have your answers to those questions. ~ P-123 (talk) 20:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you P-123 for keeping on the job. Here's the response to your queries:
- I read the original context from which that vague sentence (Mufid defended...) was derived. As I understood, He believed that in debates one can use arguments and proofs (can use reason or al-Nazar), while some others restricted themselves to the words of the prophets and Imams as by default true statements (Al-mufid apparently believed in both reason and words of the Imams).
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- I think it's necessary, however you can take a look at the original source: "Denying any functional distinction enables him to put the Imams on a level with the prophets named in the Quran and also with the others who were called apostles, in every respect but in name."P84
- As you see here in Nass, "In Twelver Shi'ah Islam/Ismaili, nass refers to the nomination of an Imam or Da'i al-Mutlaq by a previous Imam or Dai," which fits the context.
- It should be Al-Mufid, when it comes at the beginning of the sentence.
- Major Occultation is a belief by Shia which simply is about the twelfth Imam, Muhammad al-Mahdi, being absent and hidden for an unknown period (using hadiths Quranic vesres they beleive that he and Jesus will reappear at the same time to reestablish justice and peace on the earth). Meanwhile, some people with high spiritual status could make contact with him occasionally throughout the history, an act which is desired much passionately by Shia muslims and is disclosed to have happened just few times.
- Could I answer your questions correctly? Mhhossein (talk) 06:47, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you P-123 for keeping on the job. Here's the response to your queries:
- I think that is everything. I can finish copy-editing when I have your answers to those questions. ~ P-123 (talk) 20:30, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
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Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan
Hello Mhhossein: The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan has been completed. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. You will notice that I archived one of the article's citations (#1) and I suggest that you archive the rest as time allows. This ensures that the article's references are available "forever" and doesn’t develop “dead links”. The site I use is https://archive.org/web/. Simply copy the url in your citation and paste it in the box on the archive.org site and click save. It creates a copy of the original page and provides you with a new url to add to your original citation. If you look at one of the url's I've archived you'll see the syntax. You add the new url to the end of the original citation like this: |archiveurl= http etc|archivedate=18 February 2015}}. Not all websites allow archiving - CBS TV news and the NY Times are two I've come across, so there's not much you can do about that unless there is an alternate citation you could use.
Kind regards, Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you Twofingered Typist for your nice job on the article Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan. I also thank you for the valueable archiving tip. It's very good that I can now save the links. Mhhossein (talk) 17:33, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Merger discussion for Fajr decade
An article that you have been involved in editing—Fajr decade —has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 03:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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DYK for Manufactured Crisis: The Untold Story of the Iran Nuclear Scare
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Assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists
- Thanks Baffle gab1978. Mhhossein (talk) 02:42, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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ANI
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Rollback granted
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About this WP:ANI discussion
Mhhossein: Lugnuts (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) does have something of a history of... well, let's just say, if Wikipedia was a game of soccer, he has a history of disputing the calls of the referee and the linesman. In my opinion, I think the both of you should disengage from interactions, and get on with writing encyclopedia articles. Pete AU aka--Shirt58 (talk) 12:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Shirt58: Thanks, I will of course act based on your tip and won't interact with him in future. But, my point is that if we just let him go without even a warning, he will make similar comments in response to other editors, as he had done in the past and will disrupt the atmosphere by his uncolleagial approach. However, as I said, I prefer to make use of other's experience. Mhhossein (talk) 12:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't condone incivility but, in this case, you were making edits to an article Lugnuts had just created. I think editing recently created articles, when they are created by an editor who has been around Wikipedia for 9+ years and made over 400,000 edits, will result in you getting some flack. It's not that longtime editors are given a pass and do not have to be polite but with that much experience comes confidence that they know what they are doing and the view that the edits you are making aren't improvements. Again, I'm not saying Lugnuts behaved in an optimum manner, it's just understandable in this situation. Not all editors will be upset when you start changing articles they just created, but, personally, I'd work on improving existing articles instead. Liz Read! Talk! 13:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- ِDear Liz: Please consider that the user does not know how to handle such issues even after +9 years. I think an experienced editor would not blank talk page of articles under such a circumstance. So, I don't think that there's necessarily a direct relationship between the length of editing period and experience. After two years of actively editing, I know some thing about the project, which is there are always more things to know. My only request here is to not "condone [his] incivility" and "personal attacks". If the admins think that he even does not need to be warned, so it means that I can also use terms such as what he used in my interactions with others (although I'm not willing to act so). This way, he will get even more confidence. Mhhossein (talk) 14:37, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't condone incivility but, in this case, you were making edits to an article Lugnuts had just created. I think editing recently created articles, when they are created by an editor who has been around Wikipedia for 9+ years and made over 400,000 edits, will result in you getting some flack. It's not that longtime editors are given a pass and do not have to be polite but with that much experience comes confidence that they know what they are doing and the view that the edits you are making aren't improvements. Again, I'm not saying Lugnuts behaved in an optimum manner, it's just understandable in this situation. Not all editors will be upset when you start changing articles they just created, but, personally, I'd work on improving existing articles instead. Liz Read! Talk! 13:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I've been editng as long as Lugnuts but I missed the part where we are not supposed to edit articles someone else created. Is there a standard waiting period? Where do I apply to become a designated editor allowed to OWN my creations? Legacypac (talk) 14:34, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
In my opinion, when you reverted FreeatlastChitchat on WP:ANI, you should not have removed his/her comment completely. Since you objected to his/her comment, I think you should have moved his comment to the bottom of the discussion in the section, and then posted a reply to him/her.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:57, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you Toddy1. It was an awkward and flawed archiving. Considering his background, he should not have archived this topic. Moreover, there was an ongoing discussion. He could have simply make his comment, if he only wanted to comment on the topic. Mhhossein (talk) 19:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Autopatrolled granted
Per request. If you don't want the flag anymore, just let me know. Widr (talk) 19:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)