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- 1 Suggestion & Request
- 2 A latest Scientific report on Indus valley civilization published in 'Nature'( in May 2016) concudes IVC is much older and place IVC at 6000 BCE.
- 3 True meaning of the word 'Bharat'
- 4 Please comment on Talk:Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2016
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- 6 June 2016
- 7 Please comment on Talk:Falklands War
- 8 Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
- 9 Please comment on Talk:Common law
- 10 TWL Questia check-in
- 11 Look at Sher Shah's coin. His name is written in Sanskrit.
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Suggestion & Request
Revolving around Akshant Kautilya Sharma, this story[1] is an alarm for the Indian nation's authorities to rise before two major problems, namely misoriented youth and the caste-based reservation system take India to the depths of darkness. I also request that an article about the same be written if you consider it fit. It is somewhat popular on Facebook with a cult following for itself on its Facebook page.[2]. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aks23121990 (talk • contribs)
A latest Scientific report on Indus valley civilization published in 'Nature'( in May 2016) concudes IVC is much older and place IVC at 6000 BCE.
Recently published research paper( May 2016) in the 'Nature' journal concludes that IVC is 2500 years older than presently accepted which places the civilisation in the 6,000 BC. Institutions involved in the research study: 1. Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur, 2. Institute of Archaeology, Deccan College, Pune, 3. Physical Research Laboratory and; 4. Archaeological Survey of India
Research paper name: Oxygen isotope in archaeological bioapatites from India: Implications to climate change and decline of Bronze Age Harappan civilization Anindya Sarkar, Arati Deshpande Mukherjee, M. K. Bera, B. Das, Navin Juyal, P. Morthekai, R. D. Deshpande, V. S. Shinde & L. S. Rao Scientific Reports 6, Article number: 26555 (2016) doi:10.1038/srep26555 Palaeoclimate Received: 05 November 2015 Accepted: 29 April 2016 Published online: 25 May 2016 Their links: 1. http://www.nature.com/articles/srep26555 2. https://iitkgp.org/content/iit-kgp-researchers-say-indus-valley-civilization-india-older-thought 3. http://thediplomat.com/2016/06/revealed-the-truth-behind-the-indus-valley-civilizations-collapse/
I request you to please analyse this research study and add this info into the IVC wikipedia page. I'm asking you b/c if I edit, it will be reverted even after I provide genuine and reliable reference. So, please take it up if you can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BodduLokesh (talk • contribs) 08:46, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Ok, I will check. Even if the paper claims it, I think it is still a primary source, and can't be treated as representing scholarly consensus. But I will check. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:50, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- The paper is a single paper, and their main conclusion is not about the actual origin of Harappan civilization, it is about the causes of its collapse, and its relationship to climate. This is not sufficient basis to change the article. Vanamonde93 (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Then, can this research paper be helpful in adding new research data about climate change aspects of IVC, b/c the parties involved in the research are in the top rated ones in the Indian subcontinent. BodduLokesh (talk) 05:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- All good quality WP:PRIMARY sources can be reported in articles with in-line attribution. You can see, for example how genetics research is covered in Indo-Aryan migration theory. But their contents should not stated as a fact. Only when it is widely accepted by the scholarly community will it become a "fact." -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
True meaning of the word 'Bharat'
I'm breifing you about this just to let you know.
Recently, I read this explanation given by an 95 year old ancient yoga and sanskrit teacher in one of his written records. He mentioned every sound in sanskrit is attributed a particular meaning. While explaining an important concept related to yoga, he mentioned the reason why right from pre-vedic times(the period when sanskrit is developed) most of the tribes/communities(in vedas) and in later period kings and kingdoms of Indian sub-continent always tried to affiliate themselves to the term 'Bharat' in one way or the other. He said we have to understand the meaning affiliated to sounds in sanskrit.
For example guru = gu+ru => gu=ignorance, ru=remover, guru=remover of ignorance.
Similarly, Bharat = Bha+rat/rati => bha=self-luminous, rat/rati=intense desire,love,attraction,interest.
So, Bharata is the one who has intense desire towards the self-luminous state. This in yogic terms means to attain Samadhi(real existence state). Acc to Patanjali's yogasutras, 8th and the final stage of yoga. This is the reason why even in vedas, where ever the word Bharata occurs it is given extreme importance and the same is followed till today, but the only difference now and then is that the ancient meaning behind the word is forgotten in present India.
So, Acc to the yogic explanation, any person who has intense desire to attain samadhi (real state of existence), is termed as Bharata/Bharat. This is the main reason why the word 'Bharat' is given extreme importance right from ancient times, through mythological stories either puranas or Ithihasas or even vedas for that matter.
I just wanted to inform you some good knowledge. BodduLokesh (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- That is nice. All true Bharatiyas must be yogis, like Gandhi. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
I doesn't require to become a great person like Gandhi to be called Bharata, what I require is having intense desire to know about myself. Rat in Bharat comes from rati which means intense desire. Here rati is towards 'bha'.
BodduLokesh (talk) 04:56, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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Look at Sher Shah's coin. His name is written in Sanskrit.
My prof told me that Sher Shah issued coins with inscription both in Persian and Sanskrit. It was a unique thing in the Medieval Period. But, I could not get material in its support. Suddenly, I looked into the wiki article of Sher Shah. Just look at the bottom of the first coin. His name is written. --Ghatus (talk) 05:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Really cool. I can see the Devnagari "clothes line" at the bottom clearly. As to what is written, I have to squint a lot to read "Sher Shah." I also remember from my high school history that Sher Shah was an administrative genius, and he vastly improved the administrative systems many of whose elements are still in use today. Akbar was lucky to have had him as a predecessor.
- Asher and Talbot say that the exclusion of Afghanistan from Indian history is a colonial hangover. A truly modern history of India should regard Afghanistan as an integral part of historical "India." -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:00, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not quite "unique" in medieval times. You have seen Mahmud of Ghazni's coins of course? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:05, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I am also beginning to think that the so-called "insularity" of Indians was propaganda by Al Beruni and later by the British, both of whom hung out a lot with chauvinist Brahmins and imagined that they represented all of India. The trade routes had always been open, despite Islam, until the British closed them as part of their imperialist policies. The Chabahar route might be the greatest legacy that Modi is likely to leave behind. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Hari Singh Nalwa closed the Khyber pass and the Britishers cemented it.Ghatus (talk) 12:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- BTW, I do not think that Al Beruni was propagandist. He talked about the 11th century Hindus specifically and observed that their ancestors were not so narrow minded. The Muslim rulers of N. India in the medieval period were very cosmopolitan and maintained relations with the Central and West Asia. Ghatus (talk) 12:31, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hari Singh Nalwa closed the Khyber pass and the Britishers cemented it.Ghatus (talk) 12:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
- Swami Vivekananda:- "I am thoroughly convinced that no individual or nation can live by holding itself apart from the community of others, and wherever such an attempt has been made under false ideas of greatness, policy or holiness-the result has always been disastrous to the secluding one.... The fact of our isolation from all the other nations of the world is the cause of our degeneration and its only remedy is getting back into the current of the rest of the world. Motion is the sign of life." --Ghatus (talk) 12:38, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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- An interesting fact - the commander-in-Chief of the army of Sher shah was a Hindu (Brahmajit Gaur). He was really a unique ruler. We still use his land revenue system, GT Road. He was also the pioneer in introducing civilian postal system in India. We use the term Sarkar (Government) invented by him.--Ghatus (talk) 12:49, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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