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- 1 IF needed
- 2 User:Stand up comedian
- 3 Sarps 95
- 4 Case Western Reserve University - American history
- 5 Wiki project Women in Warfare with Dr. Phelps
- 6 Reply to your message
- 7 Amyaph article problems
- 8 Would you mind looking over my article?
- 9 Help needed
- 10 Proposal sent
- 11 History merge?
- 12 Sandbox article
- 13 Student participant on Wikipedia
- 14 Student Help
- 15 Permission help and sandbox help
- 16 Sandbox
IF needed
Hey Adam, per [1], I think you know I live in this community and can help this bunch if needed. I emailed the course instructor a while back, he knows who I am IRL if needed. Montanabw(talk) 06:27, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- I didn't, actually! The locations of private liberal arts colleges tend to be hard for me to pin down (c.f. The Onion on the matter). @Street.alex: What are your thoughts on this? Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:09, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help guys. We could be anywhere. Street.alex (talk) 14:21, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
User:Stand up comedian
Hi, I don't know if User:Stand up comedian needs more of your help. He's been trying, rather unsuccessfully, to make fairly minor additions to Alethea Arnaquq-Baril. I'm trying to steer him in the right direction, in as non-BITEy a way as possible. My sense is he's having trouble figuring this all out. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:23, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Shawn in Montreal: Thanks for the pointer. I'd love to help more and I tried to point them in the right direction before they moved the article into the mainspace (or the instructor did), but they haven't responded to my comments/questions. I'm out of the office for the next few days but I'll try and get in touch with the professor to remind the student they're getting feedback. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
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- Oh I see. Yes, the article was created by him (or her) in January. Funny, that he seems to be having trouble with fairly minor things, now, months later. Either a very gradual learning curve or the account is being shared with someone else? Anyway, it's nothing major. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:35, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Sarps 95
Hello Adam,
I just got warned about having my article taken done because of the improper citation. Can you help figure out? Citations are completed now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Frijters — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarps95 (talk • contribs)
- @Sarps95: your article Anna Frijters now has no problem templates at the top because User:MontanaBW did not think that the problem templates were appropriate or helpful. You can see the full history of the article by clicking "View history" at the top of it, which would give you something like this. Adding more sources is always good if there are any more.
- Separately, there was a warning on your talk page about your article originally being in Wikipedia: space, but you correctly moved it out of Wikipedia space into article space, so that is nothing to worry about.
- Also, again thanks to MontanaBW, your article also has a nice talk page, which you can see at Talk:Anna Frijters. MPS1992 (talk) 04:51, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
Case Western Reserve University - American history
Hi Adam, is this something you can help with? User talk:Materialscientist#Blocked students from making accounts.
I don't know if the professor is using the resources available for education or is working with Wiki Ed, and I also don't know if the IP address mentioned is still blocked or not. But at the time of writing they don't seem to have a reply to their query. MPS1992 (talk) 08:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, MPS1992. I was out on vacation yesterday (I never used the vacation templates on my volunteer account, now I'm thinking I ought to use them here), but I don't believe that is one of our professors. Thanks for the heads up. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Wiki project Women in Warfare with Dr. Phelps
Hi Adam, this is Hannah Long again from Dr. Phelps' class. I have a pretty tricky question for you - part of our final research projects in the class include a wikipedia page for our subjects...we have all chosen women figures somehow involved in warfare and are doing extensive research in order to present research posters at an event at our school. However, my subject is Asma al-Assad, and although my research is obviously original, she already has a pretty hefty wikipedia page. I'm writing to ask you what angles I can approach this with--will I be able to extensively edit her page? I have a lot of research, most of it scholarly, and I'm sure I could add. However, the page already has some sort of sanction flag on it, so I'm worried my options will be limited. Thank you! Hannahelong (talk) 22:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
- Adam, can you instruct how to interact with a page that is locked/sanctioned? Bellicist (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Hannahelong and Bellicist. We normally recommend students steer clear of those areas, as the restrictions themselves can get students in trouble and they are restricted because they tend to be characterized by sharp and sometimes intractable discussion, not heavy editing on the article page. You'll end up, if you're successful, still writing less than most of your peers though if you're careful and diligent I think you'll be pretty proud of what makes it in. Here are some things to know:
- That particular article hasn't had much talk page discussion since 2013, but it is currently being actively edited; see the revision history of the page. So there aren't any major active controversies on the page--if there were I'd steer you away regardless, but you should consider that each sentence in the article may have a reason for being there or have been the subject of discussion or editing by multiple people.
- If at any point someone reverts your change in the article, don't restore it. Even if it seems like a mistake. Even if what you wrote looks obviously correct. Even if what they reverted to looks obviously wrong. Instead, discuss your change on the article's talk page. Explain why you made the change you did and try to find out what they found objectionable about. it. You may not be reverted, or if you are the person doing it may explain their reasoning on the talk page, beginning the discussion. But you will have to use the talk page at some point.
- Try to think about small changes to multiple parts of the page, rather than in a new section you might write entirely or a major organization. If you want to do either of the latter, you should propose the change on the talk page before you make it. That is to say, you should write the exact text you want to add in a sandbox, then make a post on the article talk page explaining why you want to make a change like that.
- You may run into some idiosyncratic opposition or at least that is how it may feel. You can always leave me a note asking about the feedback you get.
- If you do start editing that page or the talk page, an administrator may visit your talk page and leave you a harmless note that looks like a summons to court. The note will remind you that you are 'aware' of the sanctions on the page. It's a formality for these topic areas so afterwards an editor can't violate the rules and claim ignorance. It's not an indictment of anything you've done or an indication you're in any trouble at all.
- I hope this helps. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:59, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Reply to your message
Hi Adam Thanks for the message, I appreciate your help. I will definitely use the tips you left on my page. Thanks a lot Sy1744a (talk) 21:10, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- Happy to help, Sy1744a. I added some sources to Walter Ellison. If you have access to those texts (you should for them and others in your library), you can improve that article even further. Thanks for your work so far. :) Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Amyaph article problems
Hi , I have difficulties with my article. It keeps stating that [hide]This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. This article may be in need of reorganization to comply with Wikipedia's layout guidelines. (March 2016) This article or section contains close paraphrasing of one or more non-free copyrighted sources. Ideas in this article should be expressed in an original manner. (March 2016) This article's use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. (March 2016)
I have already edited the article into my own. I cited my sources too. Do please assist me on this.
thanks!
Amyaph (talk) 16:38, 1 April 2016 (UTC)Amyaph
- Hi Amyaph. Those tags were added by another editor who saw those individual problems. Any other editor (including you) can remove those tags once the problems have been fixed. I'll take a look at the article and see what feedback I can give you. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:07, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Would you mind looking over my article?
Would you mind looking over my article on my sandbox? Its Atb17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atb17 (talk • contribs)
- sure thing, Atb17. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 12:36, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Help needed
Hi Adam , thank you for supervising me on my article Mee Jawa . I did some changes to it and I do not think it looks plagarized anymore. However , in my reference section , I am not sure why the numbering is not following what I want. I tried to retype it but it still comes out like this . Please do assist me on this, thank you.
Amyaph (talk)Amyaph (talk) 2:21,5th April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Amyaph. I've updated that article somewhat. The reference issues may be coming from the fact that the numbering is auto-generated. Add references in the text itself and the reference section will be written in the order you used the reference. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 10:35, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Proposal sent
Hi Adam! Thanks for your help. I proceeded with the help of Dr. Phelps and have posted a hefty proposal for changes on Asma al-Assad's talk page. Wanted to let you know so you might take a look! Thank you so much. Hannahelong (talk) 20:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi, Hannahelong. I've adjusted the indentation to your comments a bit. Wikipedia talk pages still use wiki-code (the system that works under the hood on VisualEditor and was for most of Wikipedia's existence, the only editing option), so there are some conventions for formatting posts which may not be immediately apparent.
- I'm replying by prepending an asterisk "*" to the start of my lines to you. This will add bulleted replies at one level of indentation.
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- Less useful on talk pages are ordered lists: These are lines that start with a hashmark "#". They aren't numbered manually. Each new line starting with "#" will add another element.
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- Start a line with a different type of indentation to break the list. I hope this helps. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
History merge?
Hi Adam, and @Guettarda:, I don't really know much about history merges etc, but the result of Guettarda's edits made after yours are that the Tatiana de la tierra article now shows as being created by Guiselac in January, rather than by Lowandhigh in March. This seems unfair on the latter. Is this the correct situation? PamD 11:38, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- I also don't know much about them. They didn't exist for most of when I was an admin. I asked Guettarda to perform the merge because it seemed like the student's primary difficulty was getting their work onto the page itself, so I added the content, but I wanted the changes made by the student to be reflected in the history. We could ask Lowandhigh. I'm also not familiar enough w/ revision deletion to know if deleting history prior to Lowandhigh's creation (which is nominal apart from this edit) counts as housekeeping. If it does, I'd say we could do that, keeping the history and their creation at that editathon. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 11:45, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Sandbox article
Dear Adam,
I just received you feedback on my article on Frances Erksine Inglis. The source you mentioned that is a Phd Disseration is a critical source, however, I believe there is a published version, and I actually requested it from the library, so I can see if it has the same information.
Sincerely, Charlotte Mann Cmartlover (talk) 3:36, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cmartlover. Let me know if you need a hand with anything. Also if there is not a published version the dissertation can still be used, you'll just have to be more cautious about drawing wide ranging interpretations from it. That's a somewhat fuzzy area so I'll be happy to talk with you more specifically about it if that's the case. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:42, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Student participant on Wikipedia
Hi Adam. I've encountered an article being edited by User:Mpadilla123 who is participating in Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/California Maritime Academy/Information Fluency in the Digital World - 2 (Spring 2016). The user restored content that had two issues.
The first issue was content I removed due to not being sourced from the book the article relies upon. The article in question is 100 Greatest African Americans. The edit I performed was is here. The edit Mpadilla123 performed to undo my edit is here. Michael Jordon is not listed in the book. See Google books for verification.
The second issue is the proper formatting of references. My edit formatted weblinks in the article using the basic reference format. The student restored the sources in an incorrect format and placement. See diff to observe the placement of weblinks throughout article before I encountered it.
There are other issues, but these are the most egregious and I realize this person is learning. I figured you had more experience dealing with students. Thanks. Mitchumch (talk) 21:00, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note and thanks for being understanding. I've left a message for the student asking them to stop reverting you. I don't know how conversant they'll be on talk pages (ironically, talk pages are much harder for new editors since we switched to the VisualEditor, because it's a second set of competencies to learn), but I've also invited them to talk about it here. I'll check back with the student tomorrow morning and see if I can't get them to address these issues. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:30, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Mitchumch: I reverted them again, for slightly different reasons. Left a note suggesting they add to the book as a book. If they continue to add the content to the article I'll let the professor know so I can make sure I'm able to communicate the issues to the student. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Student Help
Hi Adam! I am a student and I just completed my first article. ( Eskimeaux ) I was wondering if you could take a look at it and make any corrections/leave me feedback on my talk page. Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peemags (talk • contribs)
- Replied on your talk page. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:24, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Permission help and sandbox help
Good afternoon Adam,
I have encountered a few problems with moving my sandbox article to the main page. I have been working to add to the article "Nostos" so when I finished a section in my sandbox, I accidentally moved it to wikipedia:Nostos and not the original Nostos article, because I selected wikipedia instead of article. I tried to move it back and then I tried to move the wikipedia:nostos that I created to the main Nostos article but it said I needed permission to do both of those. I also added more to my sandbox that I would like to add to the main Nostos article but it said I needed permission for that as well. I know I'm not supposed to copy and paste so I am unsure of what to do in this case. I would like to add the section that is no longer in my sandbox and the section that is in my sandbox to the main Nostos page.
Thank you, Tiffani
- Hi, TiffaniHunter. I've moved your page to User:TiffaniHunter/Nostos so you can work on it. The reason you were unable to move your work to Nostos is because an article exists there. Improvements to that article can be added via the editing process, as your sandbox and mainspace training module will show. Don't copy your work as it is now over the existing article, either. The current article is short and needs some improvement, but you should take a look at other, more well developed articles to see what those improvements ought to look like. I'll suggest some improvements to your draft in a bit. Sorry about the confusion on the move. Adam (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Sandbox
Hello Adam, would you mind looking over my sandbox? I was wondering how it looks. Thanks.- from Ryan in Black Women in America