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- 1 May 8
- 1.1 Vertical bar in URL causing error
- 1.2 Update on CLARE TURLAY NEWBERRY
- 1.3 Problem with GeoHack
- 1.4 Spurious reversion of my own edit after I saved another edit
- 1.5 Tool for comparing intersection of pages edited by users?
- 1.6 Untitled
- 1.7 Referencing errors on Beyonce discography
- 1.8 Substituting a Better Image
- 1.9 Moving AFC Draft to Mainspace by Non-Reviewer
- 1.10 Request edit status
- 1.11 "Subtitle" in search results
- 1.12 User's sandbox listed on MOS page
- 2 May 9
- 2.1 Edward IV
- 2.2 Guidelines
- 2.3 Saving without edit summary
- 2.4 New COI Paid editor
- 2.5 I want to write how write this comments in Wikipedia.
- 2.6 speedy deletion of rambir singh sangwan
- 2.7 Indian Map correction
- 2.8 Morocco Map
- 2.9 Looking for very simple step by step instructions for the system for copying text from CC-BY-SA licensed sources into Wikipedia articles.
- 2.10 Toto Cup
- 2.11 America's Missing,Abducted and Lost Persons aka A.M.A.L.P MINISTRY
- 2.12 Change TRO Jung Brannen Wikipedia Name to TRO
- 3 May 10
- 3.1 Referencing errors on Whig Party (United States)
- 3.2 Lupton family
- 3.3 Barotseland Music
- 3.4 A user breaks the civility code
- 3.5 David Cameron
- 3.6 Starting/Editing a Wikipedia Page
- 3.7 New bracket template
- 3.8 How do I edit the main entry on a name
- 3.9 Article Content Question
- 3.10 Change of Supervisor
- 3.11 Youtube personalities and notability
- 3.12 difficulty creating an account
- 3.13 Wasiu Adelani
- 3.14 Poster upload
- 3.15 An Autobiography Page
- 4 May 11
May 8
Vertical bar in URL causing error
I'm trying to put this ref into an article: [1]
However, the vertical bar in the URL seem to be what is producing this error in the ref: Unknown parameter |oclc;query= ignored (help)
Is there a way to include this URL in a ref without generating the error? NewtonCourt (talk) 21:00, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- @NewtonCourt: You have to use the escape pipe {{|}}. I have fixed the link and it looks like it is working. --Majora (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Majora: Thanks very much! NewtonCourt (talk) 09:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @NewtonCourt: unfortunately, that is not the right type of escaping. {{|}} is a form of wikicode escaping, but that doesn't actually work inside refs (yes wikicode is TERRIBLE). What you need here is percent-encoding. The encoded value of | is %7C. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Majora: Thanks very much! NewtonCourt (talk) 09:37, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ Massachusetts Turnpike Authority. "Boston Central Artery Corridor Master Plan". C/W MARS. Retrieved 6 May 2016.
Update on CLARE TURLAY NEWBERRY
Her daughter, Felicia N. Trujillo, just released a biography that includes full color covers of all 20 of her books (not 17) and 2 portfolios: THE CAT ARTIST~The Story of Clare Turlay Newberry. <redacted per WP:EL> Also see: www.NewberryCats.com a portfolio site featuring most of Newberry's books. WP:COPYVIO book ad removed Felicia Newberry Trujillo (talk) 05:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)Clare T. Newberry PHOTOS AVAILABLE--DON'T KNOW HOW TO UPLOAD
- Presumably this is intended to refer to Clare Turlay Newberry? --David Biddulph (talk) 05:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)@Felicia Newberry Trujillo: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not post ads for books, especially when the text plagiarizes another source. As you have a conflict of interest, I recommend that you do not directly edit the article on Clare Turlay Newberry. However, your book would be a useful source, so you are welcome to mention it on the article's talk page (Talk:Clare Turlay Newberry). The message will stay there longer than it will here, and volunteers who work on that article are more likely to find it there. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- As for the photos, Felicia Newberry Trujillo: one or two of them may be welcome additions to the article, but only if they are released under a suitable licence. One aim of Wikipedia is to make all its information freely reusable, and that includes images. With some narrow exceptions (which I don't believe will be relevant in this case) all images are freely reusable by anybody for any purpose, including commercial, as long as they are properly attributed. This means that in order to upload any of the images to Wikipedia (or, better, to Wikimedia Commons), the holder of the copyright in them must explicitly follow the procedure in Donating copyright materials - which, as I say, will grant an irrevocable licence to reuse them. If the copyright holder wishes to do so, and follows that procedure, then you can upload them using the upload wizard. Adding suitable licensed pictures is something that people with a conflict of interest are usually OK in doing, as long as they accept the consensus if other editors do not feel that the pictures are appropriate for some reason. --ColinFine (talk) 10:14, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Problem with GeoHack
See this article: IIT Kanpur Airport. In the Infobox on the right, the coordinates are given for the location of the topic. When we click on the coordinates, it opens a new page on GeoHack. On that page, the WGS84 shows the correct coordinates which are same as that on Infobox of the Wikipedia article, whereas just one line below Geo URI show incorrect coordinates. Because of the incorrect Geo URI coordinates, the links to maps such as Bing Maps or Google Maps lands the user on an incorrect location. I don't know how to change these Geo URI coordinates :( . Please Help. Iamvaibhavkumar (talk) 07:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- The coordinates in the infobox were wrong, GeoHack did what it was told and pointed to the location it received from the page. I think I've fixed the problem by looking up the airstrip in google maps and correcting the coordinates in the article. Jarkeld (talk) 08:22, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Right. The infobox uses degrees, minutes, seconds. It says 26°31′14″N 080°13′51″E after the fix by Jarkeld. @Iamvaibhavkumar: Somewhere you found degrees as decimal numbers 26.5202N 80.2330E and tried to enter it in [1]. But to get minutes and seconds you would have to say 0.5202×60×60 = 1873 = 31×60 + 13, so it becomes 26°31′13″N with your measurement. Similarly, 0.2330×60×60 = 839 = 13×60 + 59, so it becomes 080°13′59″E. That's very close to Jarkeld's coordinates. Your measurement would give https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=IIT_Kanpur_Airport¶ms=26_31_13_N_080_13_59_E_type:airport_region:IN. That actually hits the landing strip while Jarkeld is 10m north of it. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, I see my mistake. I should have seen it. Thank you @PrimeHunter: and @Jarkeld:. I'm very sorry for all this trouble. Apologies. Iamvaibhavkumar (talk) 08:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Right. The infobox uses degrees, minutes, seconds. It says 26°31′14″N 080°13′51″E after the fix by Jarkeld. @Iamvaibhavkumar: Somewhere you found degrees as decimal numbers 26.5202N 80.2330E and tried to enter it in [1]. But to get minutes and seconds you would have to say 0.5202×60×60 = 1873 = 31×60 + 13, so it becomes 26°31′13″N with your measurement. Similarly, 0.2330×60×60 = 839 = 13×60 + 59, so it becomes 080°13′59″E. That's very close to Jarkeld's coordinates. Your measurement would give https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=IIT_Kanpur_Airport¶ms=26_31_13_N_080_13_59_E_type:airport_region:IN. That actually hits the landing strip while Jarkeld is 10m north of it. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Spurious reversion of my own edit after I saved another edit
On May 1, 2016, I removed some linkspam from A Girl like Me (film). Today I made a minor edit to Generic Access Network. Then I looked at my contribution history and discovered that I had supposedly reverted my own edit to "A Girl like Me (film)". But I did not! I haven't even looked at that page since May 1. Any ideas? Peter Chastain [¡habla!] 09:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I once achieved a similar result, by accidentally editing not the current version of an article but an old version. Maproom (talk) 10:19, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Peter Chastain: Could this have been an accidental click on a "rollback" link in your watchlist? -- John of Reading (talk) 12:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @John of Reading: That is quite plausible, not in the watchlist but on my User Contributions page. After I edit a page, I often go there to make sure it really got saved properly. Thanks! Peter Chastain [¡habla!] 21:33, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Tool for comparing intersection of pages edited by users?
I can't find it - I want to see why pages are both edited by two specific users - it gets used in SPIs. Legacypac (talk) 11:58, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Untitled
Sir, i m a good writer & hv written many articles in diffrent topic so i hv earn by those articles, so the PDF of those in which address i should send. Please clarify it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.185.66.184 (talk) 15:06, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you need. There is no address to send things. You just write, but to contribute at this English Wikipedia you need a good grasp of English. Two suggestions:
- Ask your question at the Wikipedia for your native language.
- Further clarify what you are asking. Try again. Ask your question in different ways. Herostratus (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Referencing errors on Beyonce discography
Reference help requested. Hello. I was editing Beyoncé discography, adding certification with correct and valid references from official sites where the certifications are stated. The next day my edit was gone ( same as Adel's and Lady Gaga edit). I just wanna ask why is that and what am I doing wrong? Thank you very much, Jacob. Thanks, Jakubik.v (talk) 15:55, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, I haven't gone into the various edits, but it seems that your additions were changed by another editor who left various comments in the edit summaries as can be seen in the page history here. Music bios and discographies sometimes seem to attract referencing anomalies. It might be an idea if you raised any queries you may have with the editor who made the changes. Eagleash (talk) 16:03, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Substituting a Better Image
I'm trying to understand when I can substitute an image for the lead/first/representative image in an article.
A day or so ago I substituted this image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prairie-nymph----Herbertia.jpg for the lead image in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbertia_%28plant%29 . It stayed for a while, but when I came back to the article today the original lead picture had reappeared and my substitute was gone. I understand that better is in the eye of the beholder, but I've asked before what, if any, are the rules for substituting a better image for another in an article but got no response. (talk) 16:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) :Hello, I don't think there's a problem with the image you substituted. However, your edit broke the taxonomy box as can be seen here. I expect the editor who corrected it just 'undid' the entire edit which would have removed the replacement image. I think both images might be considered OK and you can always try adding it again without causing formatting errors. If it is reverted again then it is best to discuss with the editor who does so. Eagleash (talk) 16:46, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I definitely prefer the previous image, which has the background in focus and a natural-looking flower. The one you substituted has a kind of ghostly shimmer around the edges of the petals, which is quite off-putting and makes it look faked. Maproom (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not aware if we have written rules but I have participated in a few such discussions, so I'll share how it was handled.
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- In some cases, a proposed replacement may be so obviously superior to the image replaces that an editor are to just go ahead and make the replacement. If it is a close call, or even if you don't think it's a close call but could imagine someone else might hold a different opinion, one approach is to post the alternatives on the talk page and ask for a consensus of editors.
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- I have participated in several of these and generally ends up being amicable, even in cases where the individual starting the discussion and having a particular interest in one image does not prevail.
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- In this particular instance it sounds like something else is going on—not a debate over the desirability of a particular image but the fact that the replacement ended up creating an error unrelated to the image quality.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:32, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Moving AFC Draft to Mainspace by Non-Reviewer
I would like to know, first, whether there are any actual guidelines about moving a draft article to mainspace by a non-reviewer, and, second, how reviewers and other experienced editors should deal with such an action. I can't find another specific forum to ask this two-part question.
First, I am not aware of any guidelines. In general, often an enthusiastic inexperienced editor asks, either at the Teahouse or here, whether they should move their declined draft into mainspace and what will happen then. They may do this because they find AFC to be a frustrating process (which it is if the author either has a non-notable topic, isn't good with English, or just finds referencing difficult (which it is)). They are usually advised that submission to mainspace will subject the article to nomination for deletion, a more painful process than being declined. Most authors heed the advice. A few do it anyway.
Second, do reviewers and other experienced editors have specific ideas about how to deal with an author moving a draft to mainspace? I have seen two different approaches, both of which make sense. The first is to nominate the article for deletion (or, if it is hopeless, tag it for speedy deletion). The second is to move it back to draft space.
It is true that a particular article that was moved back from mainspace to draft space has prompted my question, but my question isn't really about it, but a general question. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:24, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I know that requesting the conflict of interest disclosure and possibly the paid editing disclosure may be in order. I did that in the case in point. But my question really has to do with what is the general thinking of other experienced editors about inexperienced editors who move a draft to mainspace because they are tired of AFC. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:27, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know of any policy on the reviewing of AFCs by a non-reviewer, except that the general idea is that non-reviewers should not review unless they are suitably familiar with content policies (and ready to have their actions reviewed by a more experienced community member). If the article is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, I would move it back to the draft space, unless I can tell that:
- There are no references at at all (whether in the article or not);
- The subject is hopelessly not notable;
- The subject is clearly a hoax/vandalism;
- The current article contains BLP/CVIO issues and the material should not be publicly visible;
- The creator is a sock (G5).
- These would probably result in deletions. (Although, depending on the situation for the first two, I might move back; I would not CSD these instances). However, if there are no issues that require immediate deletion, after moving back to the draft space, I would leave a clear and thought out message explaining why the article should not be moved from the draft space yet. Also, if the mover is not the creator (and not a sock of the creator), I would explain how the reviewing process should work, and why/what mistakes they made. -- The Voidwalker Discuss 17:52, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- The moves that I had in mind were either by the author or by another contributor. If an editor who is not a known reviewer moves a draft to article space, my assumption would be that they are a new reviewer. .Robert McClenon (talk) 02:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- Of course, when User:The Voidwalker says that serious BLP or copyvio that should not be visible should not be moved back from mainspace into draft space, I agree, but with the understanding that they should have been speedied in draft space. There are a few reasons to speedy in draft space, and they do include serious BLP violations and copyright violations. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- How can a draft page be vandalism, anyway? It can be a hoax. Vandalism is malicious damage to the encyclopedia. How can something new be vandalism? (I don't consider patent nonsense to be vandalism, for instance, but a different type of stuff that should be deleted, except that overwriting encyclopedic text with patent nonsense is a common form of vandalism.) Robert McClenon (talk) 02:35, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not expecting to see vandalism (or even the other serious issues) moved from the draft space, and certainly not expecting another good-faith user to make that move. It seems unlikely that a vandal would create pages in the draft space so that they could move it out later. Not to mention, patrolling users would probably find it first. (I only worded it like that because I was thinking of WP:CSD#G3 at the time.) All I stated was what I believe I might see. It could be a good page, that would be kept. It could be a bad page, which would be moved. Or it could be so bad that it needs to be deleted. -- The Voidwalker Discuss 19:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know of any policy on the reviewing of AFCs by a non-reviewer, except that the general idea is that non-reviewers should not review unless they are suitably familiar with content policies (and ready to have their actions reviewed by a more experienced community member). If the article is not suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, I would move it back to the draft space, unless I can tell that:
Request edit status
Does there exist a system for monitoring the state of the Category:Requested edits backlog, like {{AFC status}} for AFC? I ask because there is a fairly significant backlog right now and I wouldn't mind making such a template, but I don't want to duplicate existing functionality. — crh 23 (Talk) 19:36, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- The open count is shown in the {{admin dashboard}}. While clearing a requested edit does not require one to be an admin, it is a task that should not be undertaken by newbies (in my opinion). There may be a valid need for such a template but I'd be interested in knowing where you thought it should be placed. We need more experienced editor's working on this backlog. As a community, we tell editors with the COI not to edit certain articles but to request an edit then we promptly ignore the request. We need to do better. If this template helps I'm in favor of it but the key is getting the volunteers to help out.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:20, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Clearing REs is a tricky task requiring familiarity with policy and guidelines, but so is AFC reviewing. I am basically thinking of putting a notice in {{request edit}} informing users of the degree of backlog, much like that on Template:AFC submission/pending. Overall, I'm interested in getting around to formalising the process, to make it easier to get into for experienced editors unfamiliar with that specific task, similar to all the information that can be found at WikiProject Articles for creation. The wording on Template:AFC submission/pending is based on the number found at Template:AFC status/level, hence my enquiring about a similar system for REs. — crh 23 (Talk) 20:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Make sure to check out Request Edit Wizard, a stalled attempt to improve the precess.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:48, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I expected there might have been something like this lying around. Did it just fizzle out, or was there something specific that stopped progress? — crh 23 (Talk) 21:02, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- In my case, fizzle. I am unaware of anything specific, but it is a great question to ask.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:09, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I expected there might have been something like this lying around. Did it just fizzle out, or was there something specific that stopped progress? — crh 23 (Talk) 21:02, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Make sure to check out Request Edit Wizard, a stalled attempt to improve the precess.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:48, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- Clearing REs is a tricky task requiring familiarity with policy and guidelines, but so is AFC reviewing. I am basically thinking of putting a notice in {{request edit}} informing users of the degree of backlog, much like that on Template:AFC submission/pending. Overall, I'm interested in getting around to formalising the process, to make it easier to get into for experienced editors unfamiliar with that specific task, similar to all the information that can be found at WikiProject Articles for creation. The wording on Template:AFC submission/pending is based on the number found at Template:AFC status/level, hence my enquiring about a similar system for REs. — crh 23 (Talk) 20:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
"Subtitle" in search results
I'm currently editing Turkmenistan. When I search for Abadan, a city, the appropriate hit says
- Abadan, Turkmenistan
- district of Ashgabat, former city
(Ashgabat, "Așgabat" in Turkmen, is the national capital.)
The first sentence of Abadan, Turkmenistan is
- Abadan is a town located near Aşgabat in the Ahal Province of Turkmenistan.
The article says nothing about its having been incorporated into the capital city. Where did that note come from? I don't see anything like it in the page's source code. Please {{ping}} me for discussion.
--Thnidu (talk) 20:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
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- @NQ: I see the text there, but no source for it. If the source is one of those five "statements" or three "identifiers", it's far from obvious - in fact, it's totally opaque. Doesn't Wikidata require sources?? I certainly wouldn't put it into the article here with no source.--Thnidu (talk) 01:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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- @Thnidu: The entry was added by ru:User:Ahonc, so I'm assuming it was sourced to the Russian language wikipedia. As far as Wikidata is concerned that statement is unsourced. - NQ (talk) 21:11, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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Note for readers: User:Thnidu has already added sources (original, web archive) for the information about expanding the capital's borders. --CiaPan (talk) 09:51, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
There are also some comments in English, related to the fact of joining on the Turkmenistan government site:
- President of Turkmenistan conducts a meeting on the expansion of the Turkmen capital http://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=2313
- The President also noted that the decision to join some settlements in Ruhabat Etrap in Ahal Etrap and Abadan town to Ashgabat was adopted with the view to integrating the plans for the development of Ashgabat and adjacent territories into the urban planning programme, ...
- President of Turkmenistan conducts a meeting on Ashgabat development http://www.turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=2301
- ...the commission established in accordance with the Order of the President of Turkmenistan carried out the work to form new districts by joining the territories of Abadan town and Ruhabat Etrap in Ahal Velayat to the territory of Ashgabat and identify their boundaries.
but there's no direct info (or I could not find it) specifically about the joining, although there is one in Russian:
- Ашхабад прирос новыми территориями (Ashgabat has grown by new territories) http://turkmenistan.gov.tm/?id=4117
- ...Меджлис Туркменистана постановил:
- Земли территории города Абадан (...) включить в пределы территории земель города Ашхабада, исключив эти земли из состава территории Ахалского велаята.
- (Mejlis of Turkmenistan decided:)
- (to include grounds of the Abadan town (...) into an area of the Ashgabat town while excluding those grounds from the Ahal Province territories.)
CiaPan (talk) 10:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- @CiaPan: Thanks for the Russian source and the official Turkmen ones. I will add at least one of these to the article.--Thnidu (talk) 15:14, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
User's sandbox listed on MOS page
A user's (Dumboldboy) sandbox is erroneously being listed on Category: content policies CAT:CONTENT because he copied the MOS no original research page. I did not think this was possible even with the category code copied. I am a bit anxious about editing the fellow's sandbox but I don't think he is here frequently nor understands the issue. — Box73 (talk) 23:52, 8 May 2016 (UTC) ce topic heading Box73 (talk) 23:53, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- I have removed the categorization by only linking to the category pages.[2] I routinely do this in userspace without discussing with or informing the user. The usual freedom in your own userspace doesn't apply when you affect a category page. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:09, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
May 9
Edward IV
Please help. Is ref number 1 on this page a valid citation? - The Peerage - (self-published) - is often tagged as such and/or tagged "unreliable" in many other royal /aristocratic pages. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 00:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Srbernadette: I can't help with your question, but are you aware that you posted it twice? Scroll up a bit. --Thnidu (talk) 00:47, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Sorry - I thought that someone might be able to ascertain if the tag "unreliable source" was required in the ref notes for reference number one on Edward IV page. I cannot make that decision myself as I am not an expert. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 01:14, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- From a quick scan of the WP:RS/N Archives, it looks like the complaints over ThePeerage.com revolve around WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT. Because ThePeerage cites its sources, their source should be cited here on Wikipedia instead of citing ThePeerage. Also, a problem that I see is the first source that ThePeerage lists is an email that they received. That strikes me as a self-published source. Dismas|(talk) 02:02, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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- The information and help above is really appreciated but, even after reading your information, I am still not sure as to whether or not to place a tag saying "unreliable source" beside ref number 1 on this page. I am unable to place the tag beside the ref. myself - should you all decide to put it there. I await your advice. thanks so much Srbernadette (talk) 04:09, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Going by WP:RS#Self-published sources (online and paper), I'd say that you shouldn't use that source at all. Any information on ThePeerage.com (or anywhere else, for that matter) that cites only an email is not reliable, being (as Dismas says) a self-published source}}. ThePeerage.com itself looks pretty safe as long as its sources are reliable ones.
- A couple of procedural notes; please read them:
- I have moved your most recent comment into the section where the discussion is going on. This is how we manage discussions on talk pages; if every comment were in a section of its own, it would be impossible to follow the threads on a multi-topic page like this. Please read Help:Using talk pages#Talk page use and follow its advice.
- When replying to a comment on a talk page, unless it's the talk page of the person you're answering you can't count on their knowing you've done so unless you notify them; "Dear So-and-so" won't do it. Use Template: Reply to or one of its other names, e.g. {{r|So-and-so}} or {{ping|So-and-so}}.
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Guidelines
Is there a guideline that says something along to lines of, it's against the rules to bring up a past and/or unrelated situation in a discretionary discussion which distracts from the actual topic at hand? Something along the lines of WP:NOTTHEM, which is aimed specifically at people filing an appeal. --Oatitonimly (talk) 01:59, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Also, is this an example of canvassing? Everyone I pinged already had their edits and warnings mentioned in the topic, so I felt that they all deserved a notification. Was I correct to do this? Did it violate WP:Canvass? --Oatitonimly (talk) 04:42, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Saving without edit summary
I accidentally saved a page without filling in the edit summary. I knew there used to be a setting in your preferences page that will not allow the page to be saved if you leave the edit summary blank, but I can't find it. Can someone help me with this? Thank you. Charlotte Allison (Morriswa) (talk) 06:12, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Morriswa: I belive it's in your Preferences, Editing tab, Editor section, option 'Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary' just below editing area parameters. --CiaPan (talk) 06:51, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
New COI Paid editor
Please see User:Seoul Seonbi/sandbox/Seoul Seonbi, this user is clearly confused about their role here as their COI declaration contains an indication of WP:OWN. I'm firmly opposed to paid editing so I do not feel capable of assisting this editor, I fear I might bite rather than help. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:28, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- His user page is blank. He has disclosed on a subpage of his user page that he's a paid editor for Sungkyunkwan University. He has made a few edits to that article, which I see as only mildly promotional, and probably acceptable. I guess there's some tag that applies, but I don't know what it is. Maproom (talk) 08:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- The declaration should not be "hidden" in a sandbox. Some rewording would also be in order to eliminate the OWNership claim. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- I have added a further message to his talk page. But I doubt I am any better at avoiding making him feel bitten. Maproom (talk) 10:46, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- He has changed his statement, but it is still not a proper conflict of interest declaration. As to what needs to be said, I am not prepared at this time to answer. For one thing, my first impulse is indeed that COI editors should be bitten very hard. My second impulse is that they not only don't know any better, but have been put in an impossible situation, because they may have been instructed to exercise article ownership. The difficult question is how to explain that their employer has told them to edit Wikipedia in a way that violates Wikipedia's guidelines, and I don't have an answer at this time, but further thought is needed. In this case, since he is no longer stating article ownership and hasn't actually engaged in article ownership or in COI editing, what needs to be done may be to wait and see. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- I have added a further message to his talk page. But I doubt I am any better at avoiding making him feel bitten. Maproom (talk) 10:46, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- The declaration should not be "hidden" in a sandbox. Some rewording would also be in order to eliminate the OWNership claim. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:08, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
I want to write how write this comments in Wikipedia.
Dears,
I want to write how write this comments in Wikipedia. Can I reach or can I know who write this comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.154.17.55 (talk) 09:02, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- I am sorry but I find your question incomprehensible. You may wish to be more specific as to your requirements. Britmax (talk) 09:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) If the comment you wish to find the origin of is on a talk page, it should be signed by the right. To find the origin of content on articles, you need to look in the revision history of a page. This can be found by going onto the page and clicking the "View history" tab at the top right, and finding which revision the content was inserted in. Clicking "Revision history search" when on that page will allow you to search the history for addition of some specific content. — crh 23 (Talk) 09:23, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
speedy deletion of rambir singh sangwan
hello, i had added reference of page Rambir singh sangwan but still it is showing issue please take a look at reference http://bsf.nic.in/en/sports.html and remove the speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sangwansunny (talk • contribs) 09:45, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- You have added references to two sources, but neither of them even mentions the subject of the article. Maproom (talk) 10:30, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
oh like that...so what if i will make a change the title from rambir singh sangwan to rambir singh only. and in the third source i have requested to correct the name from ram mehar singh to rambir singh,hoping it'll be resolved soon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sangwansunny (talk • contribs) 12:18, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- The title of a Wikipedia article should be what its subject is usually called. If the man is not usually called "Rambir Singh Sangwan", that name should not be used for an article about him. In any case, you still haven't provided convincing evidence that he is notable. Maproom (talk) 13:30, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
[1] this address is clearl showing his name and achievments..what else convincing evidence wiki needs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sangwansunny (talk • contribs) 21:25, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
References
Indian Map correction
Jammu&Kashmir , Arunachal Pradesh are whole part of INDIA. In the map you are showing are separated one. Please correct them ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.220.78.18 (talk) 13:27, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- (Copied from the FAQ on the talk page of India) The map shows the official (de jure) borders in undisputed territory and the de facto borders and all related claims where there's a dispute; it cannot exclusively present the official views of India, Pakistan, or China. See WP:NPOV. CaptRik (talk) 14:48, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Morocco Map
Hi there, Please, I would appreciate it if you would let me asking you to change the real map of the kingdom of Morocco. I invite you to come in our country and visit all the cities and villages in southern areas including the Sahara and see with your own eyes that the map given on your website is an illusion. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.154.151.115 (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- The article Kingdom of Morocco has several maps, I'm not exactly sure which one you're referring to, but I suspect it might be connected to this - Political Status of Western Sahara. If so, I don't see that any changes will be made without extremely robust reliable sourcing. You can request an edit on the articles talk page, if you can provide some. CaptRik (talk) 14:45, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Looking for very simple step by step instructions for the system for copying text from CC-BY-SA licensed sources into Wikipedia articles.
Hi all
I'm completely stuck trying to copy text from a CC-BY-SA licensed source to English Wikipedia, I found some instructions on Wikipedia:Plagiarism but I don't understand them. Are there any really basic step by step instructions that explain exactly what to do when importing CC-BY-SA content from external sources. I'm looking for something like:
- Copy text into Wikipedia article
- Save
- Put {{Template:something|Source URL}} onto talk page
(assuming that is roughly how its done)
Thanks
John Cummings (talk) 15:21, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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- I don't have a guideline to point you to, but I'd add a few point to your otherwise great instructions: Besides copying the text into the Wikipedia article, also include the source as an inline reference. And, besides putting the note on the talk page, also include a notice in your edit summary: "Copied text from source by author (CC-BY-SA x.x.)." – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:45, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Toto Cup
Hi,
I tried to fix something in the winning table in the article "Toto Cup". I made a little mess. Can anyone help me please? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KobiNew (talk • contribs) 18:23, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- @KobiNew: I think it's ok now ? Toto Cup#Winnings table —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:53, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
America's Missing,Abducted and Lost Persons aka A.M.A.L.P MINISTRY
<self-advertisement redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8374:5830:2808:C354:1A2A:AB3C (talk) 20:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm assuming you want to write an autobiography, which is not what Wikipedia is for. Wikipedia only has articles omn notable things covered in multiple, independent, reliable sources- if you believe this applies to you, then you can request an article to be written about you here. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:55, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
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- And note that Wikipedia does not care how admirable you are: we have articles on wonderful philanthropic and creative people, and also on mass murderers. All that matters is whether you have been written about, as Joseph2302 says. One thing that Wikipedia is not for is telling the world about your cause. --ColinFine (talk) 22:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Change TRO Jung Brannen Wikipedia Name to TRO
Hello!
TRO Jung Brannen recently, legally became TRO. (See www.tro-design.com for reference) and I was wondering how I could change the Wikipedia page name from TRO Jung Brannen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRO_Jung_Brannen) to TRO.
Thanks! Lindsay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lopper22 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
May 10
Referencing errors on Whig Party (United States)
Reference help requested. I received an automated message from Referencebot. I'm not familiar with this bot, and am unsure how to correct an error that it states I made. Thanks, Jack Sebastian (talk) 00:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hello, In reference No.16. a book has been cited using the template 'cite web' and referring to google books. However in the url parameter it merely repeats the book title rather than providing the url of the google books page you wished to cite. Inserting the correct url in the field will correct the error. Eagleash (talk) 00:48, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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As the error was still showing 24 hours later, I found the URL and inserted it. Eagleash (talk) 22:46, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Resolved
Lupton family
Refs 42 and 45 are wrong. Please fix Thanks 00:52, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
![](https://web.archive.org/web/20160511040737im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fb/Yes_check.svg/20px-Yes_check.svg.png)
. This (10 52016) is not a date!! Eagleash (talk) 01:02, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Barotseland Music
Trinket Rec |
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(TheRecLabel-Recording Label) Trinket Rec is the small group of small musicians (Artists and Producers) from Barotseland or Mongu(Zambia); it was first formed in 2013 by the group founder Hendrix Tiddy. Before he form this group he first approached the Jive-Beat studios which was also a small business company in Mongu (Zambia). He worked with the artists and producers at The Jive-Beat after the contract finished he wouldn’t stop. And he went to the Redox which was also a small recording label by Mr. Redox A.K.A (JJ Junior)Lozi . We are not sure if these other recording label mentioned are still available or they no longer available, but what we know is that The Trinket Rec is still running in Mongu. Hendrix released so many track from Trinket Rec though they aren’t country wide but sometimes people may find music instruments playing on cell phones from other provinces. Starting from 16th November 2015 it has been noticed that this label was growing up, Some provincial musician came to do the work with it. A musician Skwiz A.K.A Sikwibele Wasilota had a conversation with #TheRecLabel music group that in 2017 he will release a full new Album with the cooperation with Trinket Rec. Artists in Mongu(Zambia) Who worked with #TheRecLabel Music Group are; >Hendrix Tiddy Lozi (Founder), RaynZ Luvale Blacc (Co-Founder) Tizzy Nyanja(Co-Founder) , Flake Lozi(Joined 2013), Gin Mike(Joined 2015), Muyor (Joined 2015), M-Prince (Joined 2015)etc Original Musicians Who Talked About Trinket Rec Mark 2 Said ‘’You guys are just good, you may lack some studio instruments but keep working hard one day you maybe one at the top’’ He said this when he was at the consent in Mongu. T-Sean I may not know what brought you guys here, to come-up with this idea but I respect your opinion, keep trying and working hard. These are the only two celebrities talked about this music group, the guys took the chance to take their beats and song to them in-order to get some inspiration and advises. You may not know about this but you can get Hendrix Tiddy's mix-tapes on Mongu Black market. Trinket Rec 2016 © |
A user breaks the civility code
What exactly do I do and what are the steps I must take to report a user who breaks the civility code? Wikiwillkane (talk) 01:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- On the one hand, to answer your question briefly, you can report civility violations at WP:ANI. On the other hand, a reference to breaking the civility code is vague. Do you mean that an editor used language that should not be used around children, or that an editor has engaged in repeated blatant personal attacks? If you will identify the specific dispute, you might get a specific opinion. In general, use common sense and be patient, and only go to WP:ANI in extreme cases. Before reporting anything to ANI, follow ANI for a while, knowing that it isn't pleasant reading, to get a general idea of what is and isn't tolerated. Maybe that sort of answers your question. Maybe it sort of doesn't. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:54, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- I observe that the editor about whom you wish to complain was not the only person who considered some of your edits as excessive. Perhaps the advice could have been put more gently to avoid hurting your feelings, but I haven't seen any criticism of you that was seriously uncivil (maybe I missed it?) I'd recommend that you just give controversial issues a rest for a while, and work to improve some less controversial articles. Dbfirs 07:47, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
David Cameron
Ref number 2 is wrong Please fix if you can Srbernadette (talk) 02:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Starting/Editing a Wikipedia Page
How do you start and edit a wiki page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kieraneaston12 (talk • contribs) 05:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Kieraneaston12: You possibly have read Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia already? Then look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Tips. :) Happy editing. --CiaPan (talk) 06:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
New bracket template
Hello. Is it possible that someone could create a template like Template:3RoundBracket-Byesnoseeds but with 5 rounds (like Template:5RoundBracket-Byes with the no seed option)? Thanks ---- Supreme Sports Statistician (talk) 09:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Template:32TeamBracket-NoSeeds? Maproom (talk) 10:20, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Maproom: Template:32TeamBracket-NoSeeds does not have the "bye" ability that Template:3RoundBracket-Byesnoseeds has as well as the noseeds - Supreme Sports Statistician (talk) 10:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
How do I edit the main entry on a name
On this page
The info above the Storyline says the actress was Miranda Wilson. However, her name at the time was Cheryl-Ann Wilson. How do I edit this to show the name of the actress as 'Cheryl-Ann Wilson aka Miranda Wilson'?
The page also says there are no sources, yet there is a link to the actresses IMDb page, another link to soapoperacentral.com and a link to the actresses personal website. In this case, what is a reliable source.
Can anyone create a page for this actress? Or must the actress do it herself?
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.67.169.126 (talk) 11:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- I've fixed her name in the article. Yes, someone could create an article about her - she has significant roles in three soaps, and won Best Villainess - but it's frowned upon for someone connected to her to do it, for WP:conflict of interest issues. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:52, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, anybody can create an article about her if she does in fact meet the criteria for WP:notability, but she is discouraged from doing so herself. IMDB is not a reliable source (much of it is fan-edited). There has been some discussion of soapcentral.com on the WP:reliable sources/noticeboard in the past, and the consensus seems to be that it is reliable for news, but not for character bios. Here own website cannot contribute to notabililty, which is all about what other people, unconnected with her, have published about her. Please see Your first article if you're considering trying to write an article. --ColinFine (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Article Content Question
I stumbled over to the article "Carl Hewitt" because I'd been dealing (butting heads with a little) the editor of the same name/same person...looked at the talk page there...it has a thread titled "article is very out of date" wherein some editors are giving Hewitt a hard time about including reference to his recent work..their reasoning makes absolutely no sense to me...they are arguing that his recent work "IR" is itself not notable enough for inclusion. But this would only be an argument for not having a Wikipedia article about "IR"...It has been determined that Carl Hewitt is himself notable enough to have a Wikipedia article..therefore, what he has been predominately working on over the past several years is relevant for the article about him even if what he has been working on isn't itself notable enough for an article of its own....this guy has had a long history of misadventures with Wikipedia...but he is again able to edit on a limited basis...so it's unfortunate some are giving him problems that make little sense... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Carl_Hewitt (note: I can't edit that talk page as an IP)68.48.241.158 (talk) 15:28, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- IP has posted on User talk:Arthur Rubin and they are discussing. Sam Sailor Talk! 16:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- yeah, it's best for the talk page there, for the most part. But I was wondering if my logic makes sense in regards to the general policies/practices of content inclusion(I would assume it does but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something)..68.48.241.158 (talk) 17:18, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Change of Supervisor
The Supervisor of St. Anne Township is Karie L. Witvoet
- Does this relate to St. Anne Township, Kankakee County, Illinois? If so, please provide a reliable source for the information, which will be necessary for the change to be made. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:50, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Youtube personalities and notability
Did we not have a (recent?) centralized discussion inre slacking notability requirements for Youtube personalities that was closed with no consensus to slack? Can anybody remember where it was? Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 16:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Sam Sailor:, the best I've been able to find is this Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(web)#RfC:_Notability_of_YouTubers but it's probably not what you're thinking of as it's from 2014. CaptRik (talk) 19:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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- That was exactly the one I was thinking about, many thanks, CaptRik. --Sam Sailor Talk! 19:44, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
difficulty creating an account
I cannot create an account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:C301:2073:7D63:8BD3:E96F:2640 (talk) 19:01, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Could you explain what problem you're having? Try this page - Special:Userlogin/signup. CaptRik (talk) 19:27, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- If you don't explain what problem you're having, we can't help very well. It's like saying to your auto mechanic that you're hearing a noise but don't describe what it sounds like, where it's coming from, etc. So tell us what you can and we can help you better. Dismas|(talk) 20:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Wasiu Adelani
Z — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wasiu Adelani (talk • contribs) 19:28, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Wasiu Adelani: What is your question about editing Wikipedia? If you don't ask a question, we can't help. -- The Voidwalker Discuss 19:31, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Poster upload
Hi! I'm trying to upload the poster of a movie, Salad Days (film), but the image isn't available after several minutes. I've followed the wizard with all the correct information, including the author. The image is available on the movie's website (http://saladdaysdc.com/screenings) and it should the at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Salad_Days_(2014).jpg - Riotbr (talk) 20:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Riotbr: Your account has made no uploads since 2010. Try again. It should be visible immediately. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, you never uploaded it. Anyway, do you have reason to think that image is not protected by copyright? Maproom (talk) 21:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: I tryed again and... nothing. I reduced the size of the image, so it have less than 100,000 pixels (0.1 megapixels) now. That's weird... Riotbr (talk) 21:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Maproom: I think that isn't protected because it's used in many related websites (IMDB, for example) and the author don't express nothing on the website of the movie. Riotbr (talk) 21:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
An Autobiography Page
As it is against Wikipedia terms and conditions, I cannot write my own page as it has the potential to be biased. I am a seventeen-year-old author named Amanda L. Rautio and I don’t know how to go about getting a page done up as I can’t write it myself. I am all over google, and there are factual things up in many places. How do I contact someone to write this for me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MandaSixx99 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- I checked you out briefly...I'd bet you wouldn't be considered notable enough for an article quite yet...you'll have to look at the notability guidelines...congrats on your book though; and being so precocious you might very well be notable enough sometime soon!68.48.241.158 (talk) 22:37, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability68.48.241.158 (talk) 22:38, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- You can request that another Wikipedian consider taking on the assignment here: Wikipedia:Requested articles. General Ization Talk 22:41, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I was not sure how to go about doing anything here as this is definitely not my area of specialty! I don’t think I’m quite there yet either, but very soon I shall be and I though I’d get a head start. Thanks again :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:7564:500:3442:A47D:CDB0:31F0 (talk) 23:43, 10 May 2016 (UTC)