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Contents
- 1 New Page Patrol survey
- 2 Holiday Cheer
- 3 Editing glitch
- 4 Happy Holidays!
- 5 A barnstar for you!
- 6 Your draft article, Draft:Craig Miller (writer)
- 7 Disambiguation link notification for February 26
- 8 Speedy deletion nomination of Transnational child protection portal to-do list
- 9 Speedy deletion nomination of Come Out Swingin'
- 10 Wik-Ed Women Session #5
- 11 history
- 12 Deletion nomination of Bryan Caforio
- 13 Joshua Copp: Random third-party thanks
- 14 Glenn Marine Group and Fat Leonard scandal
- 15 Peter Buschang Deletion
- 16 Thanks!
- 17 About Home's sequel
- 18 Dr. Yaw Ansong Jnr
- 19 Tan Sri Low Yat listed at Redirects for discussion
- 20 Chelsea Manning
- 21 Thanks and possible request for help.
New Page Patrol survey
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Holiday Cheer
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Editing glitch
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Happy Holidays!
I hope you have a great holiday!
01:38, December 1, 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
for a neutral pov, thanks Actua718 (talk) 17:13, 31 January 2016 (UTC) |
Your draft article, Draft:Craig Miller (writer)
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Hello, NatGertler. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Craig Miller".
In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Onel5969 TT me 15:12, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for February 26
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Speedy deletion nomination of Transnational child protection portal to-do list
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A tag has been placed on Transnational child protection portal to-do list requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 16:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Come Out Swingin'
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A tag has been placed on Come Out Swingin' requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Stefan2 (talk) 16:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Wik-Ed Women Session #5
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, I would like to personally invite you to the March edition of the Wik-Ed Women meetup, which will take place on March 15, from 6-10 in the evening. It will occur at Los Angeles Contemporary Archive, 2245 E Washington Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90021 (downtown LA -- map). The building has a pink top with old signage for American Accessories, Inc. dba Princess Accessories (Photos [PDF]). There is on-site parking in the back, which also has an entrance. If you cannot attend in person, you are more than willing to work remotely, as we appreciate all help that you can provide. Finally, here is a link to the Facebook event, in case you want to invite friends, as we are always looking for new editors to help expand coverage of women on Wikipedia! I hope to see you there! Cosmicphantom (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
history
[1] shows one editor's "concept" of the importance of WP:BLP alas. And far from the only such edit. Explaining some of the vitriol spewed at BLP/N, I think. Collect (talk) 00:08, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Deletion nomination of Bryan Caforio
FYI: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bryan Caforio. Champaign Supernova (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Joshua Copp: Random third-party thanks
I have this article on my watchlist and I appreciate your eviscerating intervention. The contributors' remarkably congruent usernames give me a sense that something fishy is going on in the City of London. For what it's worth, I'm well and truly middle-aged and secure as an XX-chromosome-equipped human being in pretty much all respects, but as an "out" female on WP, something about that article made me feel like I would be grandly abused, in a manner I don't have time for during this particular calendar quarter of my real life, if I tried to do that myself. I hate that you ended up doing it when I could have, for a jillion reasons but now REALLY, because I count Peanuts as one of the most formative influences in JDL history—and I'm absolutely not worthy (in the Wayne's World melodramatically genuflecting sense!) of bowing out of a content dispute because of a stench of malignant laddism and ending up being "rescued" by Nat Gertler! Thank you. I will keep an eye on this fertilizer heap myself and jump in if necessary now. All the best. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:49, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Julietdeltalima:Given that the two editors of similar names have only ever edited that article, and each only one volley apiece, I think we can presume that it is one person with a mission.... and so they may well return to their folly and you will get your chance! (Although I've flagged the page for attention at WP:BLPN, so there may be other eyes competing with yours on there.) While it probably should've been speedied when first posted as a clear attack page, it will probably just fade out of existence due to the WP:BLPROD. And you shouldn't be that impressed by being "rescued" by Nat Gertler; I put on my super-powered titanium exoskeleton one leg at a time, just like anyone else, JDL! --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:35, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- awww!! YOU, sir, DESERVE an extraneous Ti exoskeleton! Seriously, I'm not a young undergrad fanchild in any respect (my 25th college reunion is in June) but your userpage/kindness collectively motivated me to write "24-hour comix challenge!!" on a Post-It Note for the wall above my work desk, and maybe in the next few weeks I will take ~6 hours to draw one inept frame of that and send it to you as a genuine token of nearly tearful artistic appreciation!
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- But back to mainstream-colleague-idiot-parsing-land: This is a really intriguing gender-differential thing. I never in a jillion years thought that was an "attack page" outside Mr. Copp's control at all. The gold-Lamborghini thing may, for the love of all that is good and holy, ACTUALLY BE TRUE per semi-"mainstream" (and almost definitely non-Copp-controlled) media, heaven help us all, and so I took it as an unmitigated vanity thing, which is why I think we'll see this thing resurge once time zones are in alignment. (I went to law school with an equally laddish guy who now has a NASDAQ company, and he was not unintelligent and even he would have known better than to have pulled this kind of horsemanure... and, yet, one learns not to leave anything to the "oh, nobody would possibly be THAT moronic...' factor. To that guy's credit his WP mention isn't even redlinked.) I'm just happy not to be the only person looking at this. Onward and upward, mon copain! Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Julietdeltalima: Ah, but I think we may be seeing less a gender differential and more an experience differential, and the pilpul that may be used. One can certainly see the laddish claims there to be a boast ("He seduces lots of women, spends generously, and drinks like Hemmingway!") or a condemnation ("He's a drunken man-slut with no control on his spending.") It was POV writing, but which POV is dependent on one's point of view, curiously enough. But if it were flagged for being "promo", one could easily argue that it doesn't promote him, and shouldn't be deleted on that basis. To flag it for being an attack page, however, one merely needs to argue that it deliberately paints a picture that could reasonably be seen as negative, which makes it a BLP problem, and more likely to be deleted on that basis. Which one was the intent? I'm really not sure, and part of that is due to him being in the financial professions; the lifestyle that is given vast respect in the rock-and-or-roll world has traditionally been seen as far more suspect in a financier.... but that may be a dated view, for I am actually beyond my 25th reunion.
- As for making comics - go, do it. Do it not for any making comics is important reason, do it because it is good to do a thing. There is value, I feel, in setting a goal, focusing on the goal, and possibly achieving the goal, even if the goal itself is not of value. This is the nobility of touting at the windmill. It enriches the soul, educates the spirit, and does something else good to some other ethereal part of you, I'm sure. (This is about as deep philosophy as you can expect from a middle-aged guy with over 1000 Snoopy books.) --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:38, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- But back to mainstream-colleague-idiot-parsing-land: This is a really intriguing gender-differential thing. I never in a jillion years thought that was an "attack page" outside Mr. Copp's control at all. The gold-Lamborghini thing may, for the love of all that is good and holy, ACTUALLY BE TRUE per semi-"mainstream" (and almost definitely non-Copp-controlled) media, heaven help us all, and so I took it as an unmitigated vanity thing, which is why I think we'll see this thing resurge once time zones are in alignment. (I went to law school with an equally laddish guy who now has a NASDAQ company, and he was not unintelligent and even he would have known better than to have pulled this kind of horsemanure... and, yet, one learns not to leave anything to the "oh, nobody would possibly be THAT moronic...' factor. To that guy's credit his WP mention isn't even redlinked.) I'm just happy not to be the only person looking at this. Onward and upward, mon copain! Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:08, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Glenn Marine Group and Fat Leonard scandal
I have left the first paragraph relating to the Fat Leonard scandal in the Glenn Marine Group article and have deleted the remainder of the content. This is a HUGE scandal and frankly should have had its own article a year ago or more. The Glenn Marine Group article is about that company, not about the scandal, so mention of the scandal should not violate WP:UNDUE. One paragraph should be enough to sufficiently summarize that scandal in the Glenn Marine Group article, without violating WP:UNDUE. Folks looking for information on the scandal can find it in its appropriate location. Safiel (talk) 02:23, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Peter Buschang Deletion
Dude you gotta give me 10 minutes to finish writing the article. I just hit submit and was going to add everything. You can't just go on a deleting spree without giving someone a chance. All the sourcing and links are done
Thanks!
Thanks! Typo fixed. Neutralitytalk 20:22, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
About Home's sequel
This may be a true sequel
Dr. Yaw Ansong Jnr
I am not the creator of that page; I moved the page that was created there. Flaw in the patrol system, no worries. —swpbT 14:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Tan Sri Low Yat listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tan Sri Low Yat. Since you had some involvement with the Tan Sri Low Yat redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 05:16, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Chelsea Manning
Hi NatGertler. I am a relatively new editor. Can you help me learn what it is I did that caused you to revert my edit? Thanks! sheridanford (talk) 18:48, 27 April 2016 (UTC)kyraocity
- Let's see... your addition basically said "Following an article in The Guardian about the Wikipedia debate over gender labeling, one Wikipedia editor said thus-and-such." The problems with this as an addition are:
- Your reference is the article that supposedly caused this person to say this thing. As such, it is not evidence that the person said this thing, a claim which is unsourced. (Sourcing is important when making statements about folks who are still alive, particularly when placing them in a controversy.)
- This is not an article on how Wikipedia refers to Manning, this is an article on Manning. What you added didn't really tell us anything new about Manning. It's not particularly relevant to this article.
- There are literally millions of registered Wikipedians, and I would say that the number who have voiced opinions regarding the name and pronouns to be used when referring to Manning numbers at least in the hundreds. Given that, there was no visible reason why the opinion of this one editor should be given particular attention in article space.
- Any one of those three concerns was enough to undo the addition.
- I appreciate your putting your effort in to try to improve this encyclopedia, and hope this is a useful learning experience for you toward that goal! --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks and possible request for help.
Dear Nat,
Thanks for your edit to the Inner Worlds, Outer Worlds page. I'm very much a beginner to this community.
I replaced and would if possible like to keep the section and content you removed. I did remove the contested word 'Notable' from the section heading.
If there is anything else I left behind that fails to meet standards, I would greatly appreciate your kind assistance.
Many thanks.
With Gratitude, Bodhiji Bodhiji (talk) 22:36, 28 April 2016 (UTC)