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I plan to do a outreach workshop to introduce Wikipedia to journalism students, during which 10 participants who will registered users (I've asked them to create accounts before the workshop) are likely to edit from that IP address which is a dynamic one, I have done similar workshops at other places, and am aware that permission can be sought so that the said address may not be blocked, for the duration of the workshop, however this part was done by someone else, I wonder how to go about it? Yogesh Khandke (talk) 08:18, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have no idea how to go about this sort of thing. I've tried to figure out what the proper way is to organize group education, but I got nowhere (except a brief spat with an unfriendly trainer). From a CheckUser perspective, though, the most important thing a new account participating in your outreach can do is to declare on their userpage what they're doing, and for you to say on your userpage what your role is, who is participating, and the dates of the workshop. That way, if someone sees a bunch of new users suddenly editing in a similar fashion and perhaps not looking very competent, they won't suspect sock puppetry. Perhaps one of my talk page stalkers has more guideline/policy information on this, but it's pretty much opaque to me.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:52, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Yogesh Khandke: you may find some helpful advice here. This is where I direct inquiries from educators when they request IP unblocking at UTRS.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:59, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! Yogesh Khandke (talk) 02:40, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Yogesh Khandke: you may find some helpful advice here. This is where I direct inquiries from educators when they request IP unblocking at UTRS.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 17:59, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Would you mind...
I know you must be busy, but would you mind taking a look at this sock. It's becoming quite problematic and is leaking into the 3RR noticeboard, and I want to try and nip this in the bud. livelikemusic talk! 05:18, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for everything you did this morning! Was a bit concerned with how out of control things were getting! livelikemusic talk! 13:19, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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- You can say that again; given their edit history, it is clear they do not like me because I report them for socking. And I have a sneaking suspicion by the end of today there will be another account or three. livelikemusic talk! 13:37, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Ding ding ding. You were right livelikemusic. Here Soccerballs423 (talk · contribs) is the first one. MarnetteD|Talk 14:17, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- You can say that again; given their edit history, it is clear they do not like me because I report them for socking. And I have a sneaking suspicion by the end of today there will be another account or three. livelikemusic talk! 13:37, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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- @MarnetteD: Desperate and sad. That's all I've got to say. Can a CBAN or something be implemented? Or else we'll be sock-blocking every single day at this rate. livelikemusic talk! 14:22, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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I have a strong feeling Katty368 (talk · contribs) is another sock; mirrors one of their socks Katycat and follows the same number pattern. livelikemusic talk! 14:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Katty368 is older than the master, although the account has very few edits based on the account creation date. It's harder for me to justify a CU on the fly with such an account. Some evidence in the way of diffs would be needed, and it would probably be best to reopen the SPI to do that.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:21, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- It's probably more the case of coincidence. But, given the user's mass-sock history, one can only guess. Glad that the new account (Soccerballs) was caught in due-time before anything major happened. livelikemusic talk! 15:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- They are IP hopping now; is there something we can do about this? livelikemusic talk! 17:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for removing that tedious message from my talk page; I appreciate it! livelikemusic talk! 13:16, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- They are IP hopping now; is there something we can do about this? livelikemusic talk! 17:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- It's probably more the case of coincidence. But, given the user's mass-sock history, one can only guess. Glad that the new account (Soccerballs) was caught in due-time before anything major happened. livelikemusic talk! 15:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
They're back, and issuing insane personal attacks right now. livelikemusic talk! 22:48, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Livelikemusic: Bbb23 is away for a week or two. I've handled the SPI.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:10, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Ponyo: Again, Ponyo, you are excellent! livelikemusic talk! 23:11, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
IP hopping/avoiding scrutiny/socking
Hey Bbb23,
There's this user (Yossimgim) whom I believe is currently using IP's to avoid scrutiny, and therefore I thought this matter might interest you. The IP's in question for now are;
These remarkable trademark edits as made by these IPs are fully in line with the edits of Yossimgim, who has been blocked numerous times and was hanging on a thin rope, until he stopped editing very recently on 5 March 2016, and the IP's started editing just some days later. Main interests of all of them; religion charts, adding unrelated templates to articles.
Here are some examples that prove my point;
The IP's making the same edits;[1]-[2]-[3]-[4]-[5]-[6]-[7] (etc.)
Yossimgim making the same edits;[8]-[9]-[10]-[[11]-[12]-[13] (etc.)
There are many other behavioural matches such as the fact that Yossimgim has been blocked several times for edit-warring as well as making personal attacks,[14]-[15] which is, editorially, in line with the relatively small edit count the IP's have."You ruined the infobox you moron"-"Sundayclose su:)ck my balls".
This info might save the Checkusers some time. As well as those who patrol these articles of course, heh. Bests and take care - LouisAragon (talk) 00:57, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- There's an SPI on this user. I suggest you deal with this there. I rarely have much to do with the analysis of IP behavior directly.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:55, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
TBAN
I hope that you don't make it a habit of running around telling other editors they aren't allowed to do things which they are more than certainly allowed to do. Mind you, I do feel for you as I have helped maintain WP:EP for over a decade now, but we're always at least somewhat welcome to new ideas over there. I suspect that if you stopped and breathed a little you'd find my edit an improvement :) -- Kendrick7talk 04:39, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Kendrick7:, I did not think it improved the policy, because topic bans are supposed to be bans about certain topics, project-wide. Unless stipulated otherwise. One can be banned from an article, but encouraged to post on the Talk page, but that is not a topic ban. In any case, I am off to bed. The place to discuss this is probably on the policy Talk page, as I have seen other discussions there that have not achieved consensus. Which probably means we shouldn't change policy before there is. Thanks. Dave Dial (talk) 04:55, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Kendrick7:, you aren't allowed to change policy unilaterally. Policy is determined by consensus, and unless you can demonstrate that consensus then you can't change policy. You can try, but you may get reverted. You can revert right back but you will probably get reverted again. I suggest you start by creating a discussion on the talk page to check if people agree with your changes. HighInBC 17:19, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- You can try, but you may get reverted. Well of course, I know that @HighInBC:; I just thought the language used in the reversion[16] was rather impolitic (maybe late last night I took it too personally and was being a tad grumpy about it, but still). Policy pages are subject to the WP:BRD cycle, and the "R" part should, ideally, give reasoned explanation for the reversion, thus creating something for the "D" part to discuss. Unilaterally telling an editor that they are not allowed to do the "B" part isn't appropriate. (FWIW I really don't think my edit was all that far-ranging.)
- @Dave Dial: Well, there is no consensus, given the current language of the policy, that topic bans should be project wide. In point of fact, that would prevent an editor from even appealing their topic ban, in that mentioning the topic would be a violation. Which is absurd! But your theory does seem to be widespread among the administration, which is why I was trying to clarify things in the first place. I'll re-propose my diff on the policy's talk page soon. -- Kendrick7talk 01:49, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Kendrick7:, you aren't allowed to change policy unilaterally. Policy is determined by consensus, and unless you can demonstrate that consensus then you can't change policy. You can try, but you may get reverted. You can revert right back but you will probably get reverted again. I suggest you start by creating a discussion on the talk page to check if people agree with your changes. HighInBC 17:19, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you
I just wanted to post a note of appreciation for the rather tedious mopping-up job you are doing over at SPI, and for doing it quickly and efficiently. Thank you. --bonadea contributions talk 14:30, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words. It's hard on all of us, especially you. Probably not the way you want to see your username plastered all over. --Bbb23 (talk) 16:12, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
User:SocraticOath site-wide edit warring and possible harassment
Hi, I noticed you were an admin working on the Admin edit board warring page and I was wondering how to proceed, as a user - User:SocraticOath - who was reported by another user for edit warring - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:SocraticOath_reported_by_User:Winkelvi_.28Result:_.29 - on an article I edited (reverting my edits), is now going through my entire edit history and reverting edits I made to articles months ago, and said on the noticeboard that they are "I was trying to find more out about you [User:VoltaireEditor]". This is such strange behavior I really don't know how to proceed. VoltaireEditor2016 (talk) 22:31, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Breaking news
Enjoy your break! I hope you get to breathe some cool, clean air. Binksternet (talk) 02:00, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Possible sock puppetry?
Hi. I think Noneof yourbusiness48 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log) has possibly come back as the IPs 2601:983:8001:bc50:5580:8f86:e03a:90ba (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log) and 2601:983:8001:bc50:18f:fb84:43ff:7755 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • edit filter log • block user • block log). Both of these IPs geolocate to Harrisburg, PA and have the same interest in editing album articles. Can you please look into this? Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Sjones23 There is a note at the top of the page that Bbb23 will be off WikiP for a week or two. If you need quick action you might file an SPI or report this to someone else that you know. Bbb23 I hope that you have an enjoyable wikibreak. MarnetteD|Talk 04:50, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Understood. I've contacted Lapadite77 (talk · contribs) for his thoughts on the matter. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Sjones23: Blocks have been issued, including Itrytocleanup (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · SUL · CA · checkuser (log)). —DoRD (talk) 12:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
- Understood. I've contacted Lapadite77 (talk · contribs) for his thoughts on the matter. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Bbb23 and DoRD, might want to check Halestormeditor (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · SUL · CA · checkuser (log)) now. That's just comical. Lapadite (talk) 08:34, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- Blocked. —DoRD (talk) 13:07, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- You also might want to check 74.99.146.113 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · SUL · CA · checkuser (log)). Same city and interests as Noneof yourbusiness48. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:14, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Point of personal privilege
This has been reported at UAA, but that area is backlogged several days and I would like to request it be dealt with promptly. A new user has surfaced named User:MelanieN CLOWN, an obvious sockpuppet of David Adam Kess. They are making the same edits to Art Forgery,[17] and Wolfgang Beltracchi [18] as a previous sock that I encountered there. I would like to request that this username be promptly suppressed. Thanks in advance! From the real --MelanieN (talk) 21:09, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Said user has been blocked, and their user page has been deleted under CSD G10.
- @MelanieN: Do you want it suppressed, or do you just want it blocked? I didn't add it to the sockpuppet category to minimize the spread of the name. —C.Fred (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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- Wow, that was fast! Blocked is fine. Thank you, User:C.Fred! --MelanieN (talk) 21:16, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- P.S. I have to say, User:Bbb23 - you have the BEST page stalkers! --MelanieN (talk) 21:26, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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Ameris Bancorp
At some point this page was deleted. I'm requesting a reversal or at least the assurance that if a page is created it will not be deleted on the same grounds (A7) as it was previously. My argument is that the subject matter is of significance because the bank is publicly traded corporation which just closed on the purchase of another banking corporation which already has a wikipedia article, Jacksonville Bancorp. The company also recently added its signage to the Riverplace Tower in Jacksonville. Mathew Stilwell (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
User Johnsmith2116
You blocked him[19] a long time ago over this[20]. He's making personal attacks again not dissimilar to the first time in this edit[21] at the very end of which he threatens to be disruptive. To quote- "And even if it is to come down, it will only be a matter of hours before it is back up again, as there are a handful of editors who are equipped with the script for it who will have no qualms about putting it back up immediately at their first availability." He is also edit warring at 2017 WGC-Dell Match Play where both I and another editor told him something was both unreferenced and speculative. Could you please address this editor over all of this....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:07, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Just letting you know that I brought this to the attention of administrator MilborneOne who is handling it now. When I wrote my above post I hadn't seen the post about you being away. Sorry to have bothered you....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 02:04, 6 April 2016 (UTC)