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Hello, Sorry if I made mistakes, is my first time in a talk page and English is not my mother language. Said than I am beginner and I want to respect the rules, I would like to talk about the videos copyright and the fair use of copyright material. I would like to point that between the fair use, a clear factor is when the material has a educational purpose. In all the cases I put a link to a video, all of them are of a high educational nature.
There is a second question helping my opinion about the fair use nature of the videos we talk: There is not an effect upon work's value. In this factor (the 4th factor listed in the above link), the burden of proof here rests on the copyright owner, who must demonstrate the impact of the infringement on commercial use of the work. Some of the videos were aired for free in a public tv broadcasting.
As a matter of fact, some of the videos are improving the owner work's value because the close caption added and promoting the diffusion of the video, the main reason of making a video aired in a public broadcasting.
I think it is correct to review the video links posted, but not all cases they will be a infringement of the copyright laws. It had to be considered case by case, and in some of the video links I made, in my opinion there is a fair use for educational reasons and without an effect upon work's value.
Regards --Cnkcnkcnk (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Note: I am still waiting an answer about if I can make links to educational video files or not
--Cnkcnkcnk (talk) 20:02, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Cnkcnkcnk: Sorry for the delay. The key here is that we deal with fair use in a far more restrictive way on Wikipedia than actual law allows. Wikipedia has a rule for fair-use, which is that its use must be kept to an absolute minimum, with a preference to zero usage. For example, with articles dealing with biographies of living people (or BLPs for short), fair use is completely prohibited, since it is felt that in some way a freely licensed image or other media could be obtained of that living person. The idea of burden of proof or added value has no relevance on the use of non-free material on Wikipedia, and that extends to external links. Incidental use of videos in external links, such as being included in a news report or similar, is typically not an issue, but linking to a page that is nothing but video, such as YouTube or similar media site, just isn't okay, if the person who posted the video is not the copyright holder. I understand your desire to add educational value to articles, but please don't confuse what the law allows with what Wikipedia allows. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:50, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Arcade City
Hey Huntster. Would you please consider taking a look at the mess that has become off the article Arcade City.
I created that article, with a number of regular old reliable sources etc., on the day or two after one of the economists I follow on Twitter tweeted links to several of those media articles. I thought it deserved a Wikipedia article, and clearly met WP:GNG. I've created a number of initial stub articles in that way; many of which I've not done anything, or very little, with thereafter.
In this case, I happened to subsequently become involved with this company/mobile app. So now, it would of course, not be appropriate that I work on that article, and have not.
This article has become a complicated mess, and needs attention from experienced editors etc. I'll just leave it at that.
Cheers. N2e (talk) 18:47, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- @N2e:, to be honest, I'm not really sure what I can do here. It badly needs more reliable sources outside the niche BTC realm, and I'm very concerned about ArcadeCityJenny editing through COI, if she is indeed associated with the company. I know nothing about this particular topic, though; I've never even ridden in a cab, much less a...rideshare? Jenny removed that term, so I'm not even sure what this is. — Huntster (t @ c) 02:22, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
I noticed you recently protected Brittany Byrnes based upon the edits of 70.212.44.85 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and other non-registered users. 70.212.44.85 has also edited Heather O'Rourke, which has also seen recent IP vandalism/unhelpful edits. I compared the edits of other similar editors and found a list of IP accounts that have edited at least two (some more) of the following articles: Judith Barsi, Heather O'Rourke, Nancy Allen, Babe (film) and Mary Kay Bergman. In addition to the one linked above, here are the other IP users:
- 174.29.75.30 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
- 174.29.1.56 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
- 2600:100E:B109:F83F:F083:A26B:E4E6:162B (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
- 2600:100E:B10B:3EA0:90AE:D46C:A69A:D031 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
- 2600:100E:B142:4D07:3D37:FD6A:CA38:7635 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
There are multiple similar edits to Judith Barsi by other IP users beginning with the 2600 prefix, and several edits by other IPs with the 70 prefix are made on the other linked articles. I recently requested protection on Judith Barsi, but (at no fault of the closing admin) based upon evidence presented at that time during the request, no action was taken.
Can you please take a look at the edit histories of the linked IP users above as well as the articles? There is an uncanny coincidence of edit histories as well as styles of editing (adding days of week to dates, changing cause of death in infoboxes to "Complications from...", wikilinking common words, adding trivial details to infoboxes and article spaces, etc.). Also, since the IP users are editing at least two or more of the articles linked above with the same styles, they are likely the same person.
Not sure what appropriate next steps should be, but I would be interested in your feedback on these issues. Thanks—AldezD (talk) 04:07, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Even better, this editor—who must be one and the same—has several times changed Cause of death from "[X]" to "Complications from [X] causing death", and re-added "Cremated" to the parameter despite several reminders pointing to the RfC. On a few occasions, "[X] was born on [day], [date], [year], to [his/her] expecting parents ..." has been added. Jack Albertson, Mabel Albertson, Madge Sinclair and Christine Cavanaugh, among others, are also targets. 🖖ATinySliver/ATalkPage 04:25, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
- @AldezD and ATinySliver: Oh boy, I didn't realise it was this bad. Um, this is right at the end of my day, and I have work tomorrow, so I'll try to figure all this out tomorrow evening. What I'll probably do is just block these IPs for a while if they don't appear to be used by several people, as I'm concerned about trying to protect so many articles. I might have to consult with someone more experienced, as my realm of expertise is image copyright. If you notice any additional IPs acting similar, please add them to the list going forward. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:57, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Here are all the IP users I could find. For those who are only editing one of the articles listed, I included the IP because edits matched those of other similar IP addresses in the table below. The five in the bulleted list from my original comment are included in the table below.
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There are likely other articles involved and possibly more IPs. Let me know your thoughts. AldezD (talk) 17:03, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Add to the list at least two new attempts by 2600:100E:B122:1D33:41E6:D08F:E255:A105 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). It's as if this person is paid by the word ... 🖖ATinySliver/ATalkPage 02:07, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Added to the table above.
- What are your thoughts on next steps? I'm happy to initiate ARV with the above table and background on Brittany Byers as a start. AldezD (talk) 14:27, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- @AldezD: holy moly, that's an amazing list. If you have experience with the ARV tool and AIV procedures, please feel free to do so. You are obviously more knowledgeable about this situation than I am. I'll help out however I can. — Huntster (t @ c) 17:35, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- AldezD, I'm in agreement with Huntster—this appears to be a situation with which you're most familiar and I'd be happy to see you take the lead, with our assistance as needed. Additional articles as I've noted here should likely be included; I will be watching them in the meantime. 🖖ATinySliver/ATalkPage 19:35, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Based upon the structure of WP:AIV, do you think this should be posted at WP:SPI instead? Or stick with AIV? AldezD (talk) 20:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Personally, I'd go AIV; if this is as I suspect and it's one user who gets a new IP with each session, it would argue against the intentional use of multiple accounts to circumvent policy. 🖖ATinySliver/ATalkPage 20:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. Start with AIV, and it can escalate to SPI if needed. — Huntster (t @ c) 20:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Started AIV but another admin moved to ANI since that would get the best level of attention. If you're interested, here it is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Potentially connected IP editors (moved from AIV). Thanks for your feedback! AldezD (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for your efforts AldezD. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:57, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Started AIV but another admin moved to ANI since that would get the best level of attention. If you're interested, here it is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Potentially connected IP editors (moved from AIV). Thanks for your feedback! AldezD (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. Start with AIV, and it can escalate to SPI if needed. — Huntster (t @ c) 20:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Personally, I'd go AIV; if this is as I suspect and it's one user who gets a new IP with each session, it would argue against the intentional use of multiple accounts to circumvent policy. 🖖ATinySliver/ATalkPage 20:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Based upon the structure of WP:AIV, do you think this should be posted at WP:SPI instead? Or stick with AIV? AldezD (talk) 20:22, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Evanescence discography
Mind taking a look at it? Do you have any suggestions for improvement? I'm sure there should be some. I want to make it a featured list so I can make their studio albums a good topic. dannymusiceditor Speak up! 19:34, 24 May 2016 (UTC)