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Contents
- 1 Request for comments re Kutchi language
- 2 Watch for this
- 3 Consolidation of task forces and sub projects
- 4 A merger discussion
- 5 RfC: Should the Indian population pages report the latest genetics research?
- 6 Draft:Gayghat
- 7 [Event] Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest December New Delhi
- 8 Radio Mirchi
- 9 Move request at Talk:List of colleges affiliated with Delhi University
- 10 Birth year of Brahma Kumaris' Lekhraj
- 11 South West India
Request for comments re Kutchi language
- What spelling should be used for Kutchi language#Spelling of language name?
- Also, the article has a list of speakers of Katchi, but most articles do not say that they are speakers of Katchi. Would someone take a look at this?
- The article seems to have been spammed. I removed some, perhaps too much. Some of the other links seem to have a lot of advertising.
Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 18:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- The current spelling seems to be just fine: replied at Talk:Kutchi language#Spelling_of_language_name. The anon is being unnecessarily pesky. utcursch | talk 21:36, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Watch for this
You can keep 2014–15 India–Pakistan border skirmishes on your watchlist. Factual errors and POV pushing are common problems. --Human3015TALK 04:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Consolidation of task forces and sub projects
We now have so many defunct task forces and sub projects that the problems outweigh the benefits, especially when new editors are interested in something and go to a dead talk page. I think we need to do the following:
- List out all task forces and sub projects
- Identify the ones that have the potential to have some tangible benefit
- Consolidate duplicates and those with far too similar scope
- Redirect all talk pages to this noticeboard so that questions, suggestions etc aren't left languishing in dead or dormant areas
- Also, update
{{WP India}}
to reflect the list of consolidated projects and task forces
Thoughts? —SpacemanSpiff 07:56, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Another in-house maintenance work... Good! We need to start by hunting down all the sub-projects and taskforces. Please add as and when you find. Feel free to format for compactness. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:50, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Like the idea. Now we need to start checking them. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Starting from the first Wikipedia:WikiProject Andaman and Nicobar Islands, it doesn't have any talk discussion beyond the normal notifications. Members is two. Most of the pages are redlinks. The page doesn't seem to be developed beyond its draft stage. Shall I mark ones like these as fully inactive? ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 18:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- For such defunct wikiprojects we can mark them as fully inactive and in turn edit all related templates to redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject Regions of India which should be a common house for all regions. Are North-Eastern state's and UT's WPs active? I doubt. Also, I have not listed all subgroups of main India project; some listed are "Academia task force", "Photography" etc. I am not sure if they are also going to be pruned over here. There are plenty of these. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 06:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think listing cross-project collaboration would be useful. e.g. In the case of the Cinema task force, a lot of the guidelines are essentially developed by WP Film, not here. The way that is handled is also good, while it lists the stuff under the WP India banner, the talk page etc are under WP Film. I believe the same is the case with football. I think something similar should be done for Cricket etc etc as those are the projects that are subject matter experts in the respective areas. I would suggest we hold off on doing this one by one (like just AN) and do it in bulk for all states or UTs in one go so that we have a reasonable view of the positives and negatives. —SpacemanSpiff 07:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
States and UTs
I've checked the first ten now and all seem to have to same level of inactivity as the Wikipedia:WikiProject Andaman and Nicobar Islands I mentioned above. One already has its talk redirected here. Should I do the same for the rest which come up? Shall I add "|inactive" to their main page? ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:11, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think we should tag the inactive ones as inactive and direct them to join WP India directly and use this talk page, so perhaps a modified version of the tag should be used? This way we could gather enough people to reactivate when there's enough interest...—SpacemanSpiff 15:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, will do. I'll leave out and post what I think has some potential here for further investigation. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've redirected the talk here and added this notice to the project page. Good enough I hope. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 13:15, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, will do. I'll leave out and post what I think has some potential here for further investigation. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Andhra Pradesh has at least one active member who wants to help. I have undone my tag and redirection; we'll have to see how to proceed with this. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'll create a modified tag for this so that the "inactive" isn't the conventional inactive but more of a "reactivate" tag; that might address some of the issues. BTW, these are all really taskforces, not wikiprojects on their own...or am I incorrect in that? —SpacemanSpiff 16:22, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Yes, you're right. They're taskforces/subprojects, not main WikiProjects. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe that would be the first thing to do, move them under Wikipedia:WikiProject India/XYZ taskforce? I'd prefer to hear from others before doing that, but this would be a lot cleaner and also avoid duplication of efforts. This is how we set up the Women's task force in Cricket --Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Women's cricket task force. —SpacemanSpiff 14:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right. They're taskforces/subprojects, not main WikiProjects. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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A merger discussion
A merger discussion regarding Mrs Funnybones and Twinkle Khanna is going on here. A detailed discussion is required. Thanks,--Skr15081997 (talk) 13:36, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
RfC: Should the Indian population pages report the latest genetics research?
I am proposing that (i) the reporting of the latest genetics research of Indian populations be limited to the page on Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia and that (ii) this page be indefinitely semi-protected. No other page on Indian populations should use primary sources on genetic research.
Rationale: The research into the genetic analysis of Indian populations is moving at a rapid pace and many new results are becoming available. However, the field is fluid, the available literature is mostly primary, and its interpretation and verification is difficult. WP:NOR advises us that Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. WP:USEPRIMARY further clarifies that In science, data is primary, and the first publication of any idea or experimental result is always a primary source. At present, we have had such primary sources being used in Indo-Aryan peoples, Dravidian peoples, Adivasi and perhaps other pages. Often the same text is copied from one page to another. A number of unregistered users with dynamic IP addresses have been involved in the creation of this content, and they have left no reasonable edit summaries and showed no participation in talk page discussions. Limiting this content to Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia will ensure that it will be reviewed by editors knowledgeable about the subject and we do not have questionable claims being propagated throughout Indian population pages. - Kautilya3 (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Draft:Gayghat
Dear India experts: Here's another village draft article that could use some attention. I found some census information and a couple of other references. It seems the Gaighat spelling is more common.—Anne Delong (talk) 02:57, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello! @Anne Delong: Gayghat have several alternative spelling which includes Gayghat, Gaighat, Gāya Ghāṭa etc. The most suitable is the Gayghat which mean Cow pier. — Sanskari Hangout 18:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
[Event] Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest December New Delhi
Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest 2015 is going to be conducted between 15 - 17 December in Delhi. There is one open slot from Indian English Wikipedians. Please nominate yourself there if you think that you are eligible. I don't think I'll go, if you want me to nominate your name, feel free to ask me.
Page: meta:CIS-A2K/Events/2015/Global Congress on Intellectual Property and the Public Interest
PS. (As I found it a common question, when I was inviting others for other events): Yes, travel and accommodation will be arranged. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:27, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Radio Mirchi
There's currently an AfD discussion for the song Khamoshiyan (song) going on here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khamoshiyan (song). According to WP:NSONG, a song qualifies as notable if it charts on a qualifying WP:CHART, and the song has charted on a Radio Mirchi chart. Unfortunately no Indian charts are listed on the page, either positively or negatively. When I search Google for Indian music charts, Radio Mirchi Top 20 is one of the first results, which leads me to believe it is considered important (not a perfect metric though). However, I can't seem to find information on whether Radio Mirchi should qualify under WP:CHART. Does anyone know more about it, and whether it's comparable to the American Billboard chart, for example? mikeman67 (talk) 14:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Mikeman67: There is no Billboard kind chart for Indian music. Radio Mirchi is one of leading FM Radio channel and famous in metros of India. Radio Mirchi chart can be considered as standard for Bollywood songs. --Human3015TALK 18:03, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Actually no. It fails #2 of the criteria as it is a single network airplay chart. —SpacemanSpiff 18:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- So in short we can't make articles on Indian songs. This must be discussed here. There should be some criteria for making articles on Indian songs. We can get numerous articles on non-award winning Indian songs, and most of Filmfare award and National award winning songs does not have articles. --Human3015TALK 19:05, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Move request at Talk:List of colleges affiliated with Delhi University
I had reverted an undiscussed move and suggested taking to RM (assuming that people would be interested in it), it's now been listed at RM and received no comment and relisted again. If you're interested in Category:Lists of colleges affiliated to universities in India, please do comment there, sadly our Education task force is inactive :) —SpacemanSpiff 14:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Birth year of Brahma Kumaris' Lekhraj
Appreciate any inputs at Talk:Dada Lekhraj#Birth_year. utcursch | talk 15:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
South West India
Can anyone have a look at the article South West India? Sure the term can be found in several books, but most of them use it to cover Coastal South West India and neighbouring areas. On the other hand, the article South West India states that the term covers all the South Indian states + Maharashtra + Goa. utcursch | talk 00:16, 23 October 2015 (UTC)