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Consensus
Hello. I don't see a clear consensus here. Might you reconsider your close? --Epeefleche (talk) 17:14, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #159
Gantiadi move decision
Hi! Why have you moved the Gantiadi article even though there was no consensus? You haven't commented on the validity of the opposing arguments, that both names are equally (rarely) used and that nothing changed since the previous move request. Alæxis¿question? 11:28, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #160
Asia/Oceania
Is there any discusssion anywhere in what you are doing to projects and their 'fit' into other projects? The issue of what fits into asia and oceania and the boundary has been a contentious one in the past, so if you didnt know or appreciate that, was curious as to why australia is not in oceania etc User:JarrahTree 23:48, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- JarrahTree: Not specifically regarding the categorization of Asia and Oceania projects. I tried to steer away from Oceania-related stuff, since it's loaded with ambiguity, but I may have forgotten to do so in some instances. In sorting Asia projects, I believe I only sorted things as Asia-related projects if there was no ambiguity. I am happy to have things sorted as both Asia and Oceania, or only one of the two, or neither, depending on what makes the most sense. My goal overall is to not have projects in parent categories when there are more specific sub-categories to sort them in. Harej (talk) 00:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
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- The way you emphasized I believe automatically made me think of jim carey. The thing about when asia and oceania were created as container 'projects' was that they were umbrella projects to be a central point under which any hair brained ideas could be 'contained' (projects for specific components - southeast asia for asia, by taking australia out of oceania you have sort of created a 'sense' problem - as the planet has umbrella projects of the 'continents' even when they werent, and now we have australia out of its umbrella project .... I am not happy with any playing on the oceania and asia border - as too often people take that ambiguity and run with it.. So here we are... I would strongly suggest re-inserting australia back into oceania. I would suggest we keep talking about the rest. if that is ok with you. User:JarrahTree 00:46, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- JarrahTree, I believe you are referring to this edit. I didn't remove it from the Oceania category because I (or others) don't consider Australia to be Oceania, but because it's already in the more precise Category:Australia-related WikiProjects, which in turn is in Category:Oceania WikiProjects. As all Australia projects are Oceania projects (or at least could be considered as such), it didn't make sense to redundantly categorize it. Does that clarify my edits? Harej (talk) 00:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- my sincerest apology - yup - my bad and ooops! thanks for taking the time to explain - must have a longer on or off wiki chat about projects some time - after 10 years of seeing people either dissavow of them (the radiator cleaners - they build up 100,000 k + edit histories playing with categories, and not once in their edit histories do they touch talk pages and projects - whereas the oil dip=stick checkers (project and talk page attention to detail) are few and far between - so few seem to understand to check both the water, and the oil... User:JarrahTree 01:00, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
- The way you emphasized I believe automatically made me think of jim carey. The thing about when asia and oceania were created as container 'projects' was that they were umbrella projects to be a central point under which any hair brained ideas could be 'contained' (projects for specific components - southeast asia for asia, by taking australia out of oceania you have sort of created a 'sense' problem - as the planet has umbrella projects of the 'continents' even when they werent, and now we have australia out of its umbrella project .... I am not happy with any playing on the oceania and asia border - as too often people take that ambiguity and run with it.. So here we are... I would strongly suggest re-inserting australia back into oceania. I would suggest we keep talking about the rest. if that is ok with you. User:JarrahTree 00:46, 2 June 2015 (UTC)