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- 1 Awaken the Dragon for Somerset/West Country
- 2 Diolch
- 3 Wikipedia:Peer review/Eega/archive1
- 4 Disambiguation link notification for May 1
- 5 St Michael's Church, Cilycwm
- 6 Proposed deletion of Safed Khoon
- 7 "This user has reduced his workload on Wikipedia"
- 8 Proposed deletion of Kekasih rembulan
- 9 Re: stubs
- 10 Hi
- 11 Happy 😊 Birthday!!
- 12 Penblwydd Hapus!
- 13 Happy Birthday!
- 14 Orphaned non-free image File:5 Fingers of Death.jpg
Awaken the Dragon for Somerset/West Country
Nice idea but I'm not sure there are enough active editors & I don't have any time to work on it at present.— Rod talk 17:26, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: People had the same worries about Wales, we've made it happen! You'd need time to work on it of course which if you haven't got it then it can't be done. But I'm sure we could get people interested in doing one for the West County or southern England. When do you think you might have more time to contribute?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I will have more time after I've marked 13 dissertations & approx 70 other essays - so June ish ( but going to Glastonbury Festival end of June). I would suggest floating the idea on the relevant wikiprojects listed on the talk pages of South West England or West Country (but we can't even agree on definitions of the area).— Rod talk 17:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps User:Hassocks5489 and User:Jaguar would be interested in a WP:Atdrag for southern England?I'm not going to have time to judge every one but if I had the support could certainly set up a few new ones and somebody else be given the responsibility of running it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:32, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: I still have some others in mind, including a regional one in Wales so nothing would be immediate but we could consider doing one in the summer if we can get support for it. I'm particularly fond of the West Country and think it would be great fun to do one for that area, but if we have some interest from southern England it could cover the south of England. I will keep it in mind anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:43, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I would be interested in putting together the "core list" & have been trying to work on more "vital articles" but wonder what the criteria for these would be? I could do some subjective lists of what I think is most important, starting with county articles etc, but perhaps the better measure would be popular pages (eg Somerset, Bristol, Devon, Cornwall etc which are often headed by biographies - not the sort of thing I normally work on.— Rod talk 17:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Rodw: A core list like Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Core articles would be extremely valuable I think as it can be referred to even after a contest and during the year and long term. It does take a while to generate but if you roughly base it on that achievable in a few months, and things can go from there. If you see the article improvements and creations for this at the bottom of the main WP:Atdrag page this has been quite extraordinary, I don't think we've ever seen something like this happen on here before. It stands out a mile from other contests as so many core and stale articles have been improved. And it's something which I'm sure could be replicated for the South West if given a chance. A few dedicated editors on board and you can get the ball rolling. The core list for now is something to keep in mind amidst your hectic schedule!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:05, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Starting on the core list, roughly create some main topics like Architecture, Culture, Geography, History, Politicis/Law, Sciences, Sport, Transport etc. Imagine an Ark for the West Country and what would go in it. Roughly 200-250 articles for each if possible, Start with Top/high importance assessed topics and sort them into subjects. Obviously Grade I listed buildings are the start for architecture, major towns, rivers and counties a start for Geography, major train stations/lines and roads for Transport etc it'll start to take shape. Doesn't have to be perfect, but roughly something which captures some of the important articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've made a start at User:Rodw/sandbox2 feel free to edit.— Rod talk 20:15, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
@Rodw: A good start, remember to embolden ones though you consider the most important, Level I core in bold and Level II normal. The ones you'd give more points to people for editing. Virtually all of the ones you've added to date I'd have thought. Can't commit time to this yet but might be able to look more at it next week.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:18, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I would love to help start an English county contest, but unfortunately Hampshire isn't in the West Country - it's in the south east. I've been wanting an excuse to build a lot of villages to GA for months, but I wouldn't feel motivated to do that outside of a competition. JAGUAR 11:42, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- ... you never know - Jaguars in the West Country?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Haha, yes, that's true!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:26, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- ... you never know - Jaguars in the West Country?? Martinevans123 (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
I'd suggest consolidating all of the military base articles into a general military section and add any Army or RAF units that have strong associations with one of the counties. I'd recommend against adding any ships that were built in the West Country, however defined, unless they have a strong association with the area because of their name, etc. Forex, the various HMS Cornwalls would qualify, but not HMS Aurora (1913) because she was just Devonport Dockyard-built. Might be worth adding in all the various castles as well.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Give me a nudge if it happens, I'm Westcountry born and bred :) WormTT(talk) 18:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Diolch
You've worked incredibly hard on this. I hope you get some kind of reward in heaven. Deb (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
LOL! Thanks Deb. I wish I had more time for article creations but running and planning the contest I'm afraid takes a lot of time! When I see others working hard and putting in the effort I reflect that. It creates a positive environment for everybody, as opposed to the usual sort of grumpy atmosphere many editors face on here! What I love about this most of all is how beautiful Wales looks. The articles and photographs often looking stunning. It makes us proud to be Welsh and that this is all part of our heritage! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:58, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ah Blowers, you're so grounded. And besides, you'd soon get bored, as "nothing ever happans". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not the most patriotic of people but Wales does have a lot of scenic places and buildings!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- And wonderful Wikipedia editors, of course Martinevans123 (talk) 12:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not the most patriotic of people but Wales does have a lot of scenic places and buildings!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Peer review/Eega/archive1
Dr. Blofeld, i do understand the burden you have on your head with the dragon edit-a-thon. When you are really free, can you please leave your comments there? I wish to make Eega a FA and i opine that your suggestions would help me improve it. Regards, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Won't be until later next week that I can look at this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:52, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- There is no time limit for this. You can leave your suggestions any day before it gets archived, as per your interest and convenience. Cheers! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 09:56, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
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St Michael's Church, Cilycwm
This one seems to have been created a little while ago at Church of St Michael, Cilycwm. —Xezbeth (talk) 13:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Xezbeth. Be on the lookout for some doubles over the next day or two coming in as a lot weren't linked earlier. Shows you how damaging it can be sometimes when people shut off red links! Can you spot any doubles in the red links in Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Missing article hotlist?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:36, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think there are any more, though some of the articles use different subdivisions so it's hard to be certain. —Xezbeth (talk) 14:22, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- OK, thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:25, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Safed Khoon
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"This user has reduced his workload on Wikipedia"
Yet you still shepherded the "Awaken the Dragon" editing contest? I should be so inactive. (Maybe I could have entered & achieved a few points.) In any case, congrats on a successful editing campaign, & hope it was fun for you! -- llywrch (talk) 17:05, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Well, yes, this month quite the opposite haha. It depends on whether WMUK will continue to support this or not on whether you enter another one. I think it would be good to do one for Anglesey/Gwynedd in a few weeks, perhaps a 10 day-2 week destubbing one. Rodw has also expressed an interest in doing this for the West Country. We'll see how WMUK respond to this one first!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:19, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
- Can't believe I got to 1000! You've done a brilliant job, even though the complexities of the scoring were sometimes a little beyond me! Deb (talk) 21:13, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Deb. That's what made it more challenging I think, but at times yeah a little complex for comfort. Just blue linked all the remaining Grade I buildings in Vale. Can you flesh a few out? Especially St Cadoc's Church, Llancarfan, I've been meaning to start that for almost ten years! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:38, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
- Outstanding work, Dr. B. That was a massive effort on your part. Well worth it, for what it produced and as a template for others. Thank you. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:12, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Tagishsimon. I really think you could cleanup most of the encyclopedia eventually if you scaled this sort of thing!♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Sadly it turns out it's fractal in nature, and has self-similarity when magnified. All of those articles which got pushed up from stub to start and start to c, etc, got replaced by a new wave of stubs. And, what's worse, new male biogs outnumbered new women biogs by a ratio of about 20:1. Upshot: the mess is now bigger than it was. Still, err, well done. I think. --Tagishsimon (talk) 07:09, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
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- No, the mess is not now bigger than it was, that's incorrect and offensive to the people who contributed. More important articles were destubbed and cleaned up over this and more than the number of footballer stubs created. Yes, I know on those footballer stubs, I've expressed similar concerns offwiki on both those drilled stubs and the Women in Red cause. I didn't want to upset the creator of them, but it was never about article count, it was about quality/core improvements. If we host anonther one there could be points for improvement those footballer stubs. I suspect a lot of them are permastubs and should probably be redirected.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:39, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Something like Wikipedia:The British Isles De-stub-athon would work I think. Destubbing articles I think needs to have more focus on here...♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:49, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Here's a diff of the WP:Wales article quality table, 3 April - today (presuming that all articles got a WP:Wales template - and that's certainly not the case, though I've added a few hundred over the last couple of day, and presuming the Wikiworks engine is up-to-date ...). Even with partial counting, it broadly supports the de-messification thesis. (And I agree, facetiousness aside, that the mess is improved and that the undertaking was well worth it - don't get me wrong.) Perhaps going forwards, creation of a stub should get the minimum - 1 point, but creation of a Start or better gets a more substantial score. Awarding negative points for creating a stub too severe, I guess. And female biog improvements might get *20 points or some startling multiplication factor to reflect the lamentable gender imbalance. --Tagishsimon (talk) 09:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Class | Change |
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FA | 1 |
FL | 1 |
FM | 0 |
GA | 50 |
B | 1 |
C | 44 |
Start | 345 |
Stub | -81 |
List | 14 |
Assessed | 392 |
Unassessed | -58 |
Total | 334 |
That's interesting, but there's still a ton of articles not assessed during this. You've not accounted for the core/higher importance articles which got improved either. And not all stubs are bad. The ones on listed buildings in particular are mainly decent. I did a fair bit on the Grade I listed ones which were priority to create. I'll be fleshing out the Vale ones I started today. Remember that stubs were largely prohibited during the whole month. There was no points for anything less than a start class. I relaxed it for a few days. Perhaps in future ones the minimum 1.5 kb of readable prose should remain constant.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:31, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Just goes to prove all the aphorisms about statistics! Seriously though, the table shows a serious improvement in the coverage of Wales on Wikipedia (and also the gaps in how we assess the importance and quality of articles). I would love to see the figures on male/female biographies but with the autogenerated footballers removed since you could regard them as a statistical aberration... I've no idea what tagging/tools are available but a query on new welsh articles (start or higher) split by female biog/male biog/gender neutral articles would be interesting.
- The other outcome of the competition is a number of lists of articles that need creating or improving. These will be a great help in possible future editathons, eg focusing on say, a preserved county or a principal area.
- I'd also like to see a list of, for example, 500 welsh articles that should be GAs. No competition, just a list that people can work on collaboratively for a year or so. Before the contest I had Lady Llanover and Grace Williams in mind as articles that could be seriously improved but realised I needed to do a lot of background reading and searching for sources that are not readily available to do justice to both topics in the time frame of a month's contest.
- Finally, it's been a fun month of virtual touring round Wales! Robevans123 (talk) 11:14, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Kekasih rembulan
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Re: stubs
Will see what I can find for them. We hope (talk) 21:49, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Cheers. I'll flesh a few out tomorrow, but knackered now! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:53, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi
Hi there, I've been wandering if you could have a look at THIS article that I've been working on recently and review it. My main focus would be the grammar, punctuation etc as English is not my first language, so mistakes could have been made easily. Thanks in advance. Regards. ArturSik (talk) 10:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Happy 😊 Birthday!!
Wseef (talk) 10:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
@Wseef: Cheers! Isn't it your birthday too as well today? If so happy birthday too! Audrey Hepburn is a May 4th er too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Seconded. Happy birthday! Hope you've had a good day away from Wikipedia! JAGUAR 21:03, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
OMG, it's today?? Well, it's just about 9pm in LV, so I'm getting these wishes in in the nick of time! Happy Birthday, Dr. B. Hope it's a really wonderful year. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:57, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Thankyou Jaguar/Rosie!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Penblwydd Hapus!
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A belated, albeit a day late, happy birthday wishes to you, Dr. Blofeld. God bless you and all the best for your future endeavours! — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:32, 5 May 2016 (UTC) |
- Chiming in a with belated birthday greeting. I hope that the day was glorious. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 01:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Haha, thanks both, not that late wishing me in UK time, jsut an hour or so!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!
Belated Happy Birthday Dr. Blofeld. You inspire so many people here and me. I hope you did well on your day. Wishing you all the happiness in life and more.....Krish | Talk 05:07, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Krish.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
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