Contents
- 1 WikiProject Motorcycle racing
- 2 Question about article deletion
- 3 Template Cite isbn
- 4 re How good is your memory
- 5 Thanks
- 6 Thanks!
- 7 Many thanks for the reference
- 8 Help with a Disruptive Editor
- 9 Draft:New York Red Riders (American Basketball Association)
- 10 Your submission at Articles for creation: 2002 McDonald's All-American Boys Game (March 12)
- 11 User Lewisthejayhawk again
- 12 Request edits
- 13 A cup of coffee for you!
- 14 RAN
- 15 Mentor Me
- 16 unknown subject
- 17 CPD
- 18 List of Vaishya Hindu saints
- 19 Environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement
- 20 FYI
- 21 Deletion of our company
- 22 Talkback
- 23 Undeletion of Draft: Blue Oyster Art Project Space
- 24 User:Athomeeditor/sandbox
- 25 Thank you!
- 26 Re: image
- 27 Thanks for deleting my tests
- 28 Alza got moved to Talk:ALZA instead of ALZA?
- 29 Private(ish) explanation to keep the conversation simple at the tech pump
- 30 Reference errors on 11 April
- 31 Khergarh
- 32 Standard Media Index page
- 33 150th FW and SOW
- 34 Endless Summer tracks
- 35 Books & Bytes - Issue 16
- 36 Draft:Khushbu Thakkar
WikiProject Motorcycle racing
Page deleted, most likely before Wikipedia Editor @Jodi.a.schneider: Jodi A. Schneider had a chance to see it--after she had specifically asked twice for me to request help there.
...I'm far from an expert in this field; I think you'd get better advice by asking for editors or advice on a talk page at WikiProject Motorcycle racing. Does that make sense? Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 16:16, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
...Hi again, @JTCasimir: Did you ask at WikiProject Motorcycle racing? Wikipedians (rather than journalists) will be really helpful in this case. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 21:47, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Any chance of it being undeleted, at least long enough for me to send the text directly to her?
Thanks,
John JTCasimir (talk) 18:00, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Question about article deletion
Hi. You recently deleted my article on Coconuts Media. After re-reading the guidelines you sourced, I understand that perhaps some of the references might not have been deemed significant or notable enough, but some surly were, like the SCMP one. It surprised me that the article was tagged for speedy deletion rather than a cleanup. Were all the references really unusable? Crystal Wilde (talk) 07:59, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Template Cite isbn
I'm not disputing the deletion, I'm just interested to know why this template was deleted. I found it useful when I had a book I was regularly using. If I made a mistake in the citation, I could just correct it once and it would update on all pages. Peaky76 (talk) 16:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
re How good is your memory
The subject of an article:: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mike_Pachelli is requesting a restoration of the article.
I see that there was a version in 2007 which was deleted as a G 12. I have no problem explaining why that one cannot be restored. However, it appears you deleted this article in 2010, and the AFD page is rather short on details. I fully realize how long ago this was but is there any chance you could tell me something more so I can explain to the subjecty it cannot be restored?--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- No idea, sorry, I'll just respectfully defer to community consensus and standard processes here. Good luck, — Cirt (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks
for all the deletions. I was at a loss as to what to do with them until someone suggest the DELETE ME tag, which worked very, very fast. Life is good, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:54, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- Happy to help.--S Philbrick(Talk) 02:11, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!
Thank you very much. I condensed things to go by year rather than by month. For example, see here. Previously, that (and the other year pages) just contained a table with links to each month—that had discussions—page, the ones that I requested deletion on. Amaury (talk) 03:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- Makes sense.--S Philbrick(Talk) 03:14, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Many thanks for the reference
No, I hadn't heard. I'll follow up. Best, Beebuk 23:22, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
- Good, glad to see that you got my note.--S Philbrick(Talk) 23:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
Help with a Disruptive Editor
Hi Sphilbrick!
I am having an issue with User:Lewisthejayhawk over some minor disruptive edits. On the standings templates for collegiate basketball conferences, instead of setting it as the date that the most recent game was played (and the standings changed) he/she instead sets it to the date of the next game to be played. Aside from being incorrect, it also makes it difficult for me (and other editors and readers) to tell when the standings actually were last updated. After many comments where I fixed or reverted their edits, and through multiple messages on their talk page, the user is still making these incorrect edits, while failing to acknowledge my outreach to them. I saw on Lewisthejayhawk's talk page that you recently had a very similar situation with the same user. Would you be able to help me sort this issue out, or point me in the right direction so it can be properly handled? Thank you! --Zach Pepsin (talk) 16:12, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Please be aware that we have far too few editors helping with wbb articles, and Lewis is doing a tremendous amount of work, so I want to make sure Lewis continues.--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:20, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Sphilbrick:I absolutely understand and agree 100%, there is plenty of work to be done as far as wbb articles are concerned, and I am grateful that Lewisthejayhawk is contributing so much. However I don't think that would constitute for continuing to make the incorrect edits, even after I reached out. I want to make sure I'm doing my part too in seeing that the articles are edited correctly.--Zach Pepsin (talk) 16:49, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. I posted a comment, let's see how it plays out.--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:56, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Sphilbrick:I absolutely understand and agree 100%, there is plenty of work to be done as far as wbb articles are concerned, and I am grateful that Lewisthejayhawk is contributing so much. However I don't think that would constitute for continuing to make the incorrect edits, even after I reached out. I want to make sure I'm doing my part too in seeing that the articles are edited correctly.--Zach Pepsin (talk) 16:49, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
No, no, no. I'm doing the right thing. So, no worries
Draft:New York Red Riders (American Basketball Association)
I was wondering if you could evaluate this and see if it's notable. Considering it's part of the American Basketball Association, it may be notable but I also mentioned to the user to add further available sources for solidity. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 07:22, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- @SwisterTwister: Thanks for thinking of me. I left a note at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Basketball#Semi-pro_team--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:47, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: 2002 McDonald's All-American Boys Game (March 12)
- If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:2002 McDonald's All-American Boys Game and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
- If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the or on the .
- You can also use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.
Hello! Sphilbrick, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! LaMona (talk) 03:33, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
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User Lewisthejayhawk again
He is still creating articles with links to categories that don't exist. Here[1] and here[2] are just two examples. The first of which was done after I wrote his talk page and got this reply[3] Maybe you can have a word with him again....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:45, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- @WilliamJE: To add to this, Lewisthejayhawk has continued to incorrectly editing the dates in cbb standings templates, even after me and Sphilbrick notified him multiple times to stop doing this. Ex: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
- On another note, I have seen similar edits from 206.188.36.202 and 71.217.119.25 recently, but not since I left a message on their talk pages. Not sure if it is related to Lewisthejayhawk, but wanted to publicly note it.--Zach Pepsin (talk) 19:15, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- Edit: In addition, I will hold off on correcting the edits I listed as examples, per Sphilbrick's prior request.--Zach Pepsin (talk) 19:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
- SP, I mentioned you in this ANI thread[4] started by Zachlp....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 02:20, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
- I've been away all day (enjoying the extraordinary weather) and just now home. I responded at the ANI page.--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:55, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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- Here is one that I don't understand: I keep putting the seeds of teams in conference tournaments into the schedules for teams, and Lewisthejayhawk promptly keeps removing them. That's not even a matter of doing his own convention/style, it's removing information for no reason at all.--Zach Pepsin (talk) 02:34, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
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Request edits
Was wondering if you had a minute to take a look at a couple[5][6] David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) (Talk) 20:49, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- @CorporateM: One done, but you are bumping up against Selection Monday, so I cannot look at the other one now.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:11, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- Selection Monday? Is that fantasy football picks? David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) (Talk) 18:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- NCAA Basketball.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:21, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Selection Monday? Is that fantasy football picks? David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) (Talk) 18:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Hey Sphilbrick. Do you have time now to take a look? CorporateM (Talk) 21:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- Not a chance. Just drove from CT to Dayton, on my way to Final Four. Will have limited online time, and that will be for basketball or maybe some mindless deletions. Next week, ask again. Season will be over.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:23, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
I saw you mention an OTRS ticket elsewhere without linking to it. I am not sure if you are aware, but you can write [[:ticket:12345]] to make a link to any ticket. Only people with access can read, but still, the link makes people more likely to read.
I still want to meet you with you sometime and hear your talk on checking OTRS permissions requests. I handle lots of tickets but not permissions checks. Hope you are well. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:48, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
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RAN
I moved his draft article to mainspace and the redirect is now of no use. Besides that, it is under my name.--The Traditionalist (talk) 14:06, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
- @The Traditionalist: Sorry, I missed that it was created by you. Thanks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:08, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Mentor Me
Hey, 6 years ago one of my articles RedSpotGames was nominated for deletion. You were one of the voices of reason in the discussion. The article is marked for deletion again. Redspotgames is a Dreamcast publisher, the creator of the company created a Dreamcast website before creating Redspotgames. It's called Dreamcast-Scene. I am a writer for Dreamcast scene because of that, an admin thinks I have conflict of interest where as I feel I am a subject matter expert. It is also something I have declared on my profile page for years.
I wrote this article to the best of my ability, I used references from primary and secondary sources to archive everything notable about the company. I don't think I showed any biases. Please help me write that page. If an admin works with me and we write an awesome article, it will help me write better articles.
What do you say?--Cube b3 (talk) 23:02, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Cube b3: It is always nice to be referred to as a voice of reason : )
- I am a strong supporter of the concept of mentoring. However, I don’t believe that the optimal pairing is an admin and a new editor. It ought to be an experienced editor and a new editor. While admin’s tend to be experienced, they may or may not have the right qualities to be a mentor.
- We already have a program: Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area.
- I’ve actually offered to mentor several editors, and I’m likely to make the offer again but in my particular case, I prefer to work on an article in which I have some interest. Please take no offense but I have zero interest in video games, so would not be a good candidate as a mentor.--S Philbrick(Talk) 23:15, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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- It is great hearing from you. I am actually just a slow learner as I've been on Wikipedia since day 1. I am a professional journalist as well. Not a full time professional type, but I do have a degree in Media and I've had a number of published articles in news papers. Therefore, I can call myself a pro :p. That said, whenever I work on something less known my work ends up on deletion.
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- Thanks for sharing the adoption area with me though I don't think I want to put myself on a list though. Maybe once I save my current batch of articles we can work on a subject that we are mutually interested in... I waited 6 years to contact you so who knows maybe a few years down the road I can approach you with help on a subject that might interest you.
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- Since you have already participated in the RedSpotGames talk, I don't think it would be canvasing if I asked you to participate in the current AfD? Best Regards--Cube b3 (talk) 02:41, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Bad timing, which is not your fault. My name area of interest is women's basketball, and we are in the middle of the postseason tournament, so most of my on wiki activity will be related to basketball for the next three weeks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Random question. Why are most female sports not as popular as male sports. I've only seen Woman Basketball once and have never seen male basketball at length so can't comment. But, my home country is all about Cricket. Several years ago... I was watching the World Cup with a few friends and we flipped channels and the female World Cup was on. These were like really good athletes. They were knocking the ball to the boundary line, they were running fast and everything you'd expect from a good Cricket game. Now I am not into cricket, but it is a cultural phenomenon. Everyone watches it, but it was the Woman's World Cup and even the stadium was half empty. My friend informed me they were playing in a slightly smaller stadium so it is easier for them to hit the boundary. I also have a cousin who was phenomenal at Cricket. Like when my family played on the weekends or summer holidays. She was always in the top 3 players. Just something random. Totally unrelated to Wikipedia, but it's been on my mind as of late.--Cube b3 (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- In basketball, the games played by men and women have very similar rules, but some people feel the games are played very differently. Men’s games are more physical, have taller and stronger players, a more apt to have dunks and more apt to have one-on-one drives to the basket, while the women’s game is mostly played below the rim, and when well played, involves more passing, more assists and more team play. It is also true, at least at the moment in the US, that the lesser ranked teams on the men’s side a closer inability to the top drank teams is so on the women’s side. I’m a big fan of the women’s game but some of the teams play game that is almost unwatchable. I hope that changes over time as more and more females become interested in the game and the general level of ability improves.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:10, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- So basically women's basketball looks different which is why it is less popular. Female cricket however looks identical to male cricket. Yet , doesn't perform anywhere near that level. Moving towards other sport cause it's on the news right now; Tennis players are paid roughly the same across gender. In terms of popularity women exceed male players based on Google searches, however on the court, male players attract higher rating and more sponsors. Overall, both genders are pretty close to being evenly tied. I haven't looked into UFC but the woman's division seems to be as popular as the male division. Just sharing random information. :) Cube b3 (talk) 04:16, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
- In basketball, the games played by men and women have very similar rules, but some people feel the games are played very differently. Men’s games are more physical, have taller and stronger players, a more apt to have dunks and more apt to have one-on-one drives to the basket, while the women’s game is mostly played below the rim, and when well played, involves more passing, more assists and more team play. It is also true, at least at the moment in the US, that the lesser ranked teams on the men’s side a closer inability to the top drank teams is so on the women’s side. I’m a big fan of the women’s game but some of the teams play game that is almost unwatchable. I hope that changes over time as more and more females become interested in the game and the general level of ability improves.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:10, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- Random question. Why are most female sports not as popular as male sports. I've only seen Woman Basketball once and have never seen male basketball at length so can't comment. But, my home country is all about Cricket. Several years ago... I was watching the World Cup with a few friends and we flipped channels and the female World Cup was on. These were like really good athletes. They were knocking the ball to the boundary line, they were running fast and everything you'd expect from a good Cricket game. Now I am not into cricket, but it is a cultural phenomenon. Everyone watches it, but it was the Woman's World Cup and even the stadium was half empty. My friend informed me they were playing in a slightly smaller stadium so it is easier for them to hit the boundary. I also have a cousin who was phenomenal at Cricket. Like when my family played on the weekends or summer holidays. She was always in the top 3 players. Just something random. Totally unrelated to Wikipedia, but it's been on my mind as of late.--Cube b3 (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Bad timing, which is not your fault. My name area of interest is women's basketball, and we are in the middle of the postseason tournament, so most of my on wiki activity will be related to basketball for the next three weeks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
- Since you have already participated in the RedSpotGames talk, I don't think it would be canvasing if I asked you to participate in the current AfD? Best Regards--Cube b3 (talk) 02:41, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
unknown subject
Dear Mr: Admin user,
Peoples has bored through the kaptan kılbıyık. Let it delete !
Best regard,
--85.102.119.171 (talk) 14:56, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- I do not know what you are talking about.--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
There is available in wikia of the kaptan kılbıyık.Look at this ! you take care ! All you delete ! İs All right !--85.102.119.171 (talk) 15:12, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have no interest in Wikia.--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:54, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
CPD
I am greatly saddened by this news. My relationship with the user was as co-editor/collaborator on a number of WP articles. We have not always seen eye to eye and our initial interactions were considerably fractious on both our parts. Later we mended fences and had developed a more positive wp relationship. I have read his user page and, while on WP, he revealed some of his personal life, including his health problems. I have never received nor sent a direct email from/to him: I don't know his "real name". My sympathies go to his family and friends; this is a significant loss to the wp community.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:34, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
List of Vaishya Hindu saints
Hi, you deleted List of Vaishya Hindu saints about a year ago. FYI, it is now back at List of Vaisya Hindu saints along with a bunch of other similar pages (Adivasi Hindu Saints, Hindu Dalit Saints, etc.). There appear to be two users at work here. I'm not sure of the history behind this, but @Doug Weller: has deleted this page before as well. Thanks.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 16:02, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- Cpt.a.haddock good catch. Blocked as a sock and will add to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Buddhakahika/Archive, But who is the other editor you mention? Doug Weller talk 17:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: Thanks for sorting that out. It was a different user who created many of those pages and Red Daredevil edited them later. I'm afraid I can't recall the other username. Something like "sun_spider" is all I can (mis)remember. Sorry :( --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 18:13, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work, looks like I don't have anything to add :) --S Philbrick(Talk) 18:17, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- Cpt.a.haddock I also blocked Sun Warrior and Caped Comeet. Doug Weller talk 18:52, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work, looks like I don't have anything to add :) --S Philbrick(Talk) 18:17, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Doug Weller: Thanks for sorting that out. It was a different user who created many of those pages and Red Daredevil edited them later. I'm afraid I can't recall the other username. Something like "sun_spider" is all I can (mis)remember. Sorry :( --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 18:13, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement
Hi Sphilbrick, I created an essay regarding the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement on Meta and I am now looking for ideas regarding the project. I saw that you're interested in sustainability, so I'd love to hear your comments and maybe even have your support! Thanks, --Gnom (talk) 21:41, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have seen that essay, but thanks for reminding me about it. --S Philbrick(Talk) 21:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- Great, I'd love to hear your opinion. Thanks, --Gnom (talk) 22:00, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you would. I've actually spent the last half hour formulating it, but I'm not sure I'm ready to share it - today is the middle of basketball post-season, and that's what I want to emphasize for the next two weeks. Then I'll get back to saving the world.--S Philbrick(Talk) 22:07, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- Great, I'd love to hear your opinion. Thanks, --Gnom (talk) 22:00, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
FYI
Since you were the admin who deleted it over a month ago when it was A9, I thought I'd let you know that I went ahead and re-created Something Beautiful (Jordan Smith album) rather than take it to AfC because it clearly passes muster now. Cheers! 🖖ATinySliver/ATalkPage 20:53, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up.--S Philbrick(Talk) 11:49, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Deletion of our company
Since you were the admin who deleted it near a year ago when it was A7, but we do not understand why. Our company is the same quality and in the number of people such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciklum,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxoft, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPAM_Systems and they are presented on Wikipedia. Can you please allow our company to create a profile. --AntWSP (talk) 13:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Please read Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:53, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 14:03, 30 March 2016 (UTC). You can at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Aleenf1 14:03, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Undeletion of Draft: Blue Oyster Art Project Space
Hi Sphilbrick,
We would like to have the page Blue Oyster Art Project Space undeleted (deleted one month ago), so that we can resubmit another draft with more verifiable citations and sources. We have taken measures to change our name in order to correctly follow the best practices of Wikipedia's requirements. We will endeavour to keep this draft active by reviewing it weekly as it is a high priority for us. Please can you advise us on what is our next step to take in order to revive the draft. This is a link to the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:The_Blue_Oyster_Art_Project_Space&action=edit&redlink=1
Thank you, Dowling — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dowling at Blue Oyster (talk • contribs) 02:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- Done @Dowling at Blue Oyster: but read wp:coi--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you!! We will have a very thorough read!
User:Athomeeditor/sandbox
Hi. Can you undelete the above page, please? The editor has left a message on my talk page asking that it be restored, and that he does intend to now work on the article. Thanks.Onel5969 TT me 17:47, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- I see that it exists, I'm guessing a TPS restored it while I was driving from Indianapolis to Connecticut--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you!
Thank you very much, S Philbrick, for deleting the Polychrotinae page and going ahead with the page move! Embrace neutralisms! Paine 17:05, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Re: image
Sphilbrick - I loaded another image for Gary Kendall, the one that is preferred. This image was first loaded in may 2015, and had to be removed it would take me 10 months (until recent) to locate the photographer. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gary_Kendall.jpg. I asked the photographer to forward the response email that would be sent to him from wiki, once I have it I will provide the number. Ths. T Heart (talk) 23:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Once settled, I will require the procedure of how to have the other photo deleted permanently from the file. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gary-Kendall.jpg T Heart (talk) 23:41, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting my tests
Hi. Just a quick thanks for deleting my user page tests ('cause without a history, there's no thanks link/button).
Incidentally, I was attempting to reproduce a possible one off glitch; ever seen a page creation that succeeds, result in a return to the pre creation state? I have.
I created User:Fred Gandt/test "test" test (which I'll keep for future tests), and instead of being given the expected result (as it is), I was shown the default this page doesn't exist etc. AFTER creating it. I refreshed and got the expected result.
Since I'd never seen this happen before, I wondered if it was a repeatable bug (possibly to do with the quotes); it wasn't. Any ideas; one off glitch? fredgandt 12:54, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure why it happened. WP:VPT is the best place to ask.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:00, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yep. I'll post later. Probably nothing. Have a great day. fredgandt 13:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Alza got moved to Talk:ALZA instead of ALZA?
Hey, sorry for not putting the template on the article page instead of the talk page, I think that's why it got moved like that... Could you please move Talk:ALZA to ALZA, and Talk:Alza to Talk:ALZA (in that order)? I'm sorry about the confusion, I really should have put that template on the main page but I was worried that it'd screw something up. Thanks! Garzfoth (talk) 18:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done @Garzfoth: I vaguely wondered why only the talk page was being moved, and just guess that the article had been moved without the talk - probably should have checked.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:24, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry to bug you again, but the pages don't seem to have been moved? I tried purging the cache several times, accessing it from another browser, etc. Garzfoth (talk) 19:09, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- I was initally surprised you said move Talk:ALZA to ALZA, I expected you to say Talk:ALZA to Alaza, but then I decided you were trying to back up to the way it was, then ask for the proper move. I thought I did what you asked, but I may have done it wrong. Can you repeat what you want? --S Philbrick(Talk) 19:19, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Actually, I should not have said "repeat what you want" because I can reread what you asked. However, I did make two moves, but your response suggests they did not end up where you want. Can you identify now what should go where, and I'll try to do it?--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have to go out, will address in the morning--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll reexplain in more detail, I know it's confusing.
- The four pages are ALZA, Talk:ALZA, Alza, and Talk:Alza
- Originally, the page content was present at Alza, and the page talk was present at Talk:Alza
- Originally, ALZA redirected to Alza
- I wanted to move the Alza pages (Alza, Talk:Alza) to their ALZA counterparts (ALZA, Talk:ALZA)
- This would mean:
- After reading Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests, I checked Category:Candidates for uncontroversial speedy deletion (which won't work as a wikilink apparently, so here's a direct link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_uncontroversial_speedy_deletion)
- From what I remember (which may be wrong), at the time, a substantial portion of the pages listed in that category had the template on their talk page, which led me to conclude that the template was supposed to be on the talk page.
- This, along with the ALZA page having an active redirect on it (making me even more unsure if I should put the template on the page instead of the talk page), is why I put the db-move template on Talk:ALZA instead of ALZA.
- After posting the template, I remember editing it to specify that I wanted Alza moved to ALZA, not Talk:ALZA, but this was at the end, in parenthesis, and I don't think I remembered to distinguish it with bold/italics.
- You then moved Alza to Talk:ALZA
- As of now:
- To fix everything, do the following, in this order:
- Once again, sorry about the confusion. Garzfoth (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Garzfoth: I think it is now done. My apologies for contributing to the conclusion. For some reason, I thought the goal was to get the article at the title without the CAPS, but it appears the goal was the opposite. Please check to see if I've made things better. If not don't hesitate to let me know what needs to be done.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:02, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll reexplain in more detail, I know it's confusing.
Private(ish) explanation to keep the conversation simple at the tech pump
Hiya.
So the way it works is roughly this:
- When you visit any wiki page, your browser gets some resources that make it work.
- One of those resources is the code from MediaWiki:Common.css which lists all the ways certain content is displayed.
- If we add a new class to that page which defines this numbering system, everyone will see the numbers in any table that names the class (like naming
wikitable
orsortable
).
The little example in my sandbox uses a class that your browser currently has no information about, unless you add the code somehow, like to your common.css (not the site's). That way, you can see the example working, but you're right, nobody else (without the code) will. So, it needs to be added to the site's common.css file/resource in order to be deployable as an option across the wiki.
I hope that wasn't too patronizing. That is never my intention. If you're still not understanding, I can explain again with different words (I have taught many people to code). fredgandt 20:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- I understood that adding the code to my CSS would make it work for me but not for anyone else. (I did miss one minor detail but it’s minor.) I’m half tempted to add the code because it would help me, but it could have unintended negative consequences. For example, if I understand correctly (and I may not), if I had the CSS code, I will see a table which has numbering on the left column, but most readers will see something else — I think blank entries. That will lead others to think there is an error and perhaps attempt to fix it. Even if they don’t, it will mean a mainspace article looks like it is poorly created. I don’t think it’s appropriate to do this in a mainspace article. If I were talking about something in my user sub pages, it would be one thing, but I don’t think this is appropriate in mainspace. As a related problem, I am likely to forget that I have special code. I might be explaining to someone how to count the number of coaches in the current year, and my explanation will make no sense because they will see the page differently than I see it. That’s a problem.
- As you have probably seen, the problem has been solved and it is been implemented in the Polish version of Wikipedia. I’m now trying to figure out what needs to be done to enable it in the English Wikipedia. I much prefer a solution that works for everyone rather than just me. I do appreciate the time you talk to create some code to solve the problem.
- I also appreciate the fact that you posted here rather than cluttering up the village pump with a discussion that's tangential to the main point. I wish people did that more often.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
-
- It seems my explanation was not good enough; here's a hopefully clearer explanation:
- The table class
wikitable
that we add to table markup to define the way it looks, works by feeding the browser of every Wikipedia user code obtained from MediaWiki:Common.css. - If we add the CSS I provided to MediaWiki:Common.css, then every Wikipedia user will see the numbers by any table that defines its class e.g.
numbered
, just like every Wikipedia user currently sees wikitables the same way. - The example in my sandbox requires a CSS class that is currently not defined, which is why you'd need to add the class definition to your own common.css file to see it work.
- Regarding the JavaScript solution:
- In order for the solution to be visible to all Wikipedia users, the required code would need to be added to the source of the table sorting methods applied by calling the CSS class
sortable
on any wiki table.
- My personal feelings on the JS vs. CSS solutions:
- Since the line numbering is only a visual indication of the rather arbitrary row numbers, the CSS solution is more appropriate, as it is itself only a visual indicator.
- The JavaScript solution requires that every table where the row numbering is desired, must physically contain a column of semantically redundant numbers with no baring on the content subject.
- The CSS solution would require only that the table class be defined, and no extra unrelated data would need to be added to the table(s).
- The CSS solution can also be applied to tables that are not sortable if desired, and also without adding any semantically nonsensical extra data to the table contents.
- I hope this is a clearer explanation. fredgandt 20:58, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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- I see that this is already been fixed by @Jonesey95: thanks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:00, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Khergarh
Hi Sphilbrick,
Just bringing to your attention the re-creation of this page, after you deleted it [7], by the same editor that copied it from Khed, Rajasthan. Discussion on the editors talk-page here, may be of interest. 220 of Borg 14:09, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Just noticed they also copied the same page as Khergadh. I have nominated both pages for speedy deletion as WP:CSD A10. --220 of Borg 14:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Standard Media Index page
Hi, we would like to recreate the Standard Media Index page that has been deleted. Can it be undeleted as We have edited it based on feedback and would like to re-submit? We have new sources. Can you please advise further on this and next steps? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BreeSutton (talk • contribs) 18:07, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- @BreeSutton: I haven't found it, can you help me? (and what do you mean by "we"?)--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:20, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
150th FW and SOW
Would you be able to undelete those pages, as I will go ahead and clean them up since I was unaware that those had issues on them. Thanks! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 12:45, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Ktr101: I restored all but 150th Special Operations Wing, which I did not delete. I see that it was deleted as part of a copyright investigation, so you’ll have to take that up with the admin who deleted it. I did not remove the templates from the restored articles, see may have to act quickly.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- if it takes some time to sort out SOW and the dependent pages are deleted again, ping me back after you get SOW sorted out, and I'll restore the others which I presume a redirects.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:55, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- That works, as I have been clearing up these based on the fact that it is so ingrained in the articles, that it is easier to chop down everything to just the infobox, and start anew. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 13:02, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Endless Summer tracks
Could you explain why you deleted Template:Endless Summer tracks? My closure of this TfD was delete all except Endless Summer tracks and one other because of a misunderstanding among the delete rationales. Every person who favored deletion stated they favored it because navboxes already contained this info, but as someone pointed out in the discussion, navboxes did not exist for these two track lists. ~ RobTalk 13:12, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- I saw a list of templates to be deleted which specifically identified this one is an exception. I went through and deleted the others and make sure to save this one. Sometime later, I was looking at some list, and thought this was one ahead simply missed and forgot it was the exception. My mistake, I restored it.--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:34, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Books & Bytes - Issue 16
Books & Bytes
Issue 16, February-March 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs)
- New donations - science, humanities, and video resources
- Using hashtags in edit summaries - a great way to track a project
- A new cite archive template, a new coordinator, plus conference and Visiting Scholar updates
- Metrics for the Wikipedia Library's last three months
The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Draft:Khushbu Thakkar
hi Would you be able to undelete those pages, as I will go ahead and clean them up since I was unaware of msgs that were sent to me on it. Thanks! SuryaDhakray (talk) 16:50, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done @Sdhakray: --S Philbrick(Talk) 16:56, 14 April 2016 (UTC)