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Contents
- 1 Unresolved issue is archived - How to "UN-Archive"?
- 2 Wikisky.org down?
- 3 Qualtrics survey on messages
- 4 Autopatrol protection
- 5 How to delete a page?
- 6 Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Stub Obliteration
- 7 Need expert help to fix: Huge amount of white space (from 2012 edit)
- 8 Possible improvement of {{afd2}}
- 9 Undo gives Error message on Talk page RfC
- 10 Strange burst of activity at Special:Log/rights
- 11 Non-empty disambiguation categories
- 12 Template:Service_award_progress
- 13 Captcha broken
- 14 Wma.wmflabs.org down
- 15 Automatic rcat for moves
- 16 Deleting module pages?
- 17 Interface editor
- 18 Format glitch
- 19 Add articles to watchlist from another user's contrib history?
- 20 Utilizing template: Globalize within template: Multiple issues
- 21 Can someone explain this edit summary
- 22 Cross-wiki login not happening
- 23 RfC: Preferred protocol for external links
- 24 IP addresses and spam blacklist
- 25 Wikilink in note
- 26 Date of the creating of Wikipedia
- 27 Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon
- 28 CSVLoader
Unresolved issue is archived - How to "UN-Archive"?
Greetings, A problem awaiting resolution is now archived here and tracked at phabricator:T126553.
If it's not possible to pull back from archive, does it need to be re-posted again?
Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 19:04, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
- @JoeHebda: Just post the new question, with a link back to the archived thread. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:39, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
- If I re-post again here, will it be archived again before the issue is solved? Just wondering... JoeHebda (talk) 02:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Possibly; archiving bots do not take any notice of whether a thread has been replied to or not. Threads on this page are archived if they've not been posted to for five days. So if nobody responds here before the next bot run that occurs after 10:30, 5 March 2016 (UTC), it will be archived. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Redrose64 – Thanks for the update. Yesterday I did repost the new VPT archive link to Wikipedia talk:User scripts#Fix needed: Gadget only works with Vector skin, script error which was orginally posted on Feb. 15th. Wondering if there might be a better place to post where the issue can be fixed? Without waiting for months for a resolution? If I knew anything about scripts (which I do not) I would attempt to fix myself. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 13:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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1) ω Awaiting a solution – also see: MediaWiki:Gadget-mobile-sidebar and Wikipedia:Gadget. JoeHebda (talk) 13:45, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
@JoeHebda: You can use {{DNAU}} to prevent archiving. nyuszika7h (talk) 21:26, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
2) ω Awaiting a solution — JoeHebda • (talk) 12:08, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
3) ω Awaiting a solution — JoeHebda • (talk) 18:12, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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- FWIW, i copied User:Brion VIBBER's script locally, and verified it works with "monobook" and "modern" after minor changes. i had to modify about 5 lines to use
mw.util.$content
instead of$('#content')
, and add a line to incease z-index specifically for monobook: for some reason the left edge of the mobile image was overshadowed by the right edge of the content in monobook (i'm sure there's more . you can try User:קיפודנחש/mobile-sidebarcopy.js to verify it indeed works with other skins (you'll probably want to disable the gadget, or you may get 2 of them...). peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- FWIW, i copied User:Brion VIBBER's script locally, and verified it works with "monobook" and "modern" after minor changes. i had to modify about 5 lines to use
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- קיפודנחש – Thanks for helping. I know about testing computer programs in other languages but nothing about js scripts. If you or anther editor could explain the steps to test, I would be willing to try testing. So far, I did un-check existing Gadgets option to disable Mobile sidebar preview option. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 21:36, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- to test the modified script, add to your personal script file the following line (if you copy from edit screen, *do not* include the "code" tags):
importScript('User:קיפודנחש/mobile-sidebarcopy.js');
- (if the file does not exist yet, create it, add the line, and save. more detailed instructions and explanations about personal scripts can be found in WP:JS). peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 22:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- קיפודנחש – Thanks for helping. I know about testing computer programs in other languages but nothing about js scripts. If you or anther editor could explain the steps to test, I would be willing to try testing. So far, I did un-check existing Gadgets option to disable Mobile sidebar preview option. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 21:36, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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קיפודנחש – Followed the test instructions & same results = Mobile sidebar preview works only with Vector skin & not the other skins. I did the Purge and logout for each; not seeing the little toolbar icon to activate preview. I know it is running the test version because I have the Gadgets one unchecked with Vector & icon shows & works correctly. — JoeHebda • (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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- you are correct. it turned out to be more elaborate than i thought - the code Brian wrote displayed the phone nicely, but placing the icon for turning it on/off on the menu turned out to be a bitch... anywhoo, i at least made it so that you can use it now, though it's not really pretty when you use a skin other than vector. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 00:10, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- @JoeHebda: update: could not get the mobile on/off icon to look acceptable on monobook, modern and cologne blue, so on these skins, the on/off switch is text only (top row for mo*, left-menu under "Edit" for cologne). peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- @קיפודנחש: – So far, it looks good and okay to me. For Cologn Blue, I am confused because I can not find any "Edit" anywhere on the page; not on top or left sidebar. I do see a "Mobile view" but that is just for switching the entire page between Mobile/Desktop views. Wondering where to look? — JoeHebda • (talk) 16:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- @JoeHebda: i practically never use cologne, and not aware of all its idiosyncrasies. for me, using this skin, when i am on a page i am allowed to edit, i see in the left-hand menu column "Edit". i verified that this is so even as anon (you can test any skin by appending to the address line "?useskin=<skinname>". this works for anons too. names are [ vector monobook modern cologneblue ]). i also verified that the script causes "Mobile" to appear there even for anons. there might be something in your prefs that causes it not to show, or maybe it *does* show and for some reason you missed it. HTH, peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 17:58, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- @קיפודנחש: – So far, it looks good and okay to me. For Cologn Blue, I am confused because I can not find any "Edit" anywhere on the page; not on top or left sidebar. I do see a "Mobile view" but that is just for switching the entire page between Mobile/Desktop views. Wondering where to look? — JoeHebda • (talk) 16:48, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- @JoeHebda: update: could not get the mobile on/off icon to look acceptable on monobook, modern and cologne blue, so on these skins, the on/off switch is text only (top row for mo*, left-menu under "Edit" for cologne). peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- you are correct. it turned out to be more elaborate than i thought - the code Brian wrote displayed the phone nicely, but placing the icon for turning it on/off on the menu turned out to be a bitch... anywhoo, i at least made it so that you can use it now, though it's not really pretty when you use a skin other than vector. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 00:10, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
קיפודנחש – Yes, I did find it now. I had to set my custom CSS font-size to 155 percent for Cologne Blue skin to help overcome a line-height issue making that skin very hard to read. And the Mobile preview sidebar works okay there as well. Just a FYI, I found a report of User skin preferences at Wikipedia:Database reports/User preferences#Skin. Thanks so much for getting Mobile to work correctly with these skins! IMO not seeing the little toolbar icon is a lesser (non-structural) issue.
Now in order to go live with this script, what needs to be done? Once it is out there I will check On in Gadgets. Then, could the Mobile sidebar preview line of Gadgets be moved out of the Testing and development section? Perhaps move into Appearance section? Cheers! — JoeHebda • (talk) 19:13, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- @JoeHebda: i saw this more as an experiment, to gauge the amount of change needed to make mobile-sidebar work with other skins. ideally, User:Brion VIBBER would patch the script on meta to work with all skins (TBH, Brion needs me to tell him how to do that exactly as much as i need my grandson to teach me to suck eggs). if, for any reason, Brion doesn't do it, enwiki can decide that limiting this gadget to vector is acceptable. the very last resort would be to change the gadget on enwiki to consume Brion's css file from meta, and the modified js file from my userspace (or some copy of it). this last option is both undesirable and unlikely. if none of those options is executed, people who do not use vector can consume my modified script privately, the same way i listed above and you tried. peace - קיפודנחש (aka kipod) (talk) 20:31, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Wikisky.org down?
I knew this site may not be affiliated with Wikipedia. But since it gets used a lot here, I think it's worth to mention. --fireattack (talk) 03:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Fireattack: Nothing to do with us: the first clue is that on visiting that site, it does not resemble any of ours (in terms of sidebars, menus, tabs, etc.) and so does not use MediaWiki software. Next clue is that it uses frames, which is a horrible obsolete way of making information inaccessible. Third clue is that none of their pages mention the Wikimedia Foundation anywhere (all of ours do, at the very bottom - whatever your skin). Fourth: if you follow their "contact us" link bottom right, the page you reach also doesn't mention Wikimedia anywhere, and the address is in Ontario.
- There are thousands of wikis, and by no means all are part of the Wikimedia Foundation. I suggest that you try http://server3.wikisky.org/contact_us.jsp --Redrose64 (talk) 08:25, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Redrose64:: Sorry I didn't make it clear. My point is not asking Wikipedia to fix that site. It's about if that site is dead for good, we should use other service for {{Sky}}.--fireattack (talk) 18:44, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- And I cannot visit that contact us link either. :D --fireattack (talk) 23:50, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Special:Linksearch only shows eight uses of http://wikisky.org/ but a lot of http://www.wikisky.org. Some of their pages were cached by Google 31 March: Google:cache:http://www.wikisky.org/starview?object=NGC+3109. So it worked four days ago. Maybe it's just a temporary problem. After writing that, a new test shows the site is working again! PrimeHunter (talk) 10:12, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: Yeah it's mainly used by {{Sky}}. And it's still down here :( --fireattack (talk) 18:46, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- It has also gone down for me again. Let's call it currently unstable, and not something to start changing links for. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yesterday, I tried http://wikisky.org/ twice at twelve-hour intervals, it worked both times. It now throws
Server not found Firefox can't find the server at server7.wikisky.org. Check the address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of www.example.com If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
- Yesterday, I tried http://wikisky.org/ twice at twelve-hour intervals, it worked both times. It now throws
- It has also gone down for me again. Let's call it currently unstable, and not something to start changing links for. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- @PrimeHunter: Yeah it's mainly used by {{Sky}}. And it's still down here :( --fireattack (talk) 18:46, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
- This site is still down here. --fireattack (talk) 06:29, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Qualtrics survey on messages
Posting here because no one reads the meta forum, and foundation wiki is read only.
The questions which require dragging don't work.
The first question about flow has a bad set of answers - they do not cover all cases.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:01, 4 April 2016 (UTC).
- Using the latest Firefox, worked fine. --QEDK (T ☕ C) 02:11, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Rich
- Which survey is it? The one concerning Notifications?
- Which browser do you use, and what is its version?
- Thanks, Trizek (WMF) (talk) 08:32, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes the notifications one. Palemoon Version: 26.1.1 (x86). All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:31, 5 April 2016 (UTC).
- Yes the notifications one. Palemoon Version: 26.1.1 (x86). All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:31, 5 April 2016 (UTC).
Autopatrol protection
Protection not assigned "editextendedsemiprotected" autopatrol and admin protection. --BasBibi (talk) 03:47, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @BasBibi: I'm not sure what you are asking for here. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @BasBibi and Redrose64: When an admin protects a page, the null edit is now marked as autopatrolled. For example, 1995–96 Chicago Bulls season was protected and revision 713794177 was autopatrolled. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Autopatrolled is nothing to do with individual revisions or protection. It's applied to the whole page from the moment that it's created by somebody with that right. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @BasBibi and Redrose64: When an admin protects a page, the null edit is now marked as autopatrolled. For example, 1995–96 Chicago Bulls season was protected and revision 713794177 was autopatrolled. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:06, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
How to delete a page?
Someone had posted an incorrect redirect from White-swelling to Seroma. White swelling can refer to any number of things, seroma being only one of these -- so the redirect was inappropriate and misleading. I did erase the redirect, but don't know how to delete the now empty redirect page. Milkunderwood (talk) 06:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- The term "white swelling" does not appear anywhere on the Seroma page. As suggested on that page, by analogy, it could as easily refer to a pus-filled abscess. A search on the term brings up mostly articles mentioning a swollen knee joint. It's also used to describe a tubercular infection of the bone, usually of the spine. Milkunderwood (talk) 07:00, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Milkunderwood: The redir was created 08:58, 27 May 2012 - if it was recent, you could have tagged it
{{db-redirmisnomer}}
, but as it was so long ago it's really a WP:RFD matter. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:04, 5 April 2016 (UTC)- Milkunderwood, you might post this at WT:MED; it sounds like it could be a reasonable WP:Disambiguation page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Milkunderwood: The redir was created 08:58, 27 May 2012 - if it was recent, you could have tagged it
Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Stub Obliteration
Hi, can somebody sort it out so that the articles listed by contestants have the bullet points and number centralised rather than spreading across the page when you add more text?♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:53, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- comme ça --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:03, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Need expert help to fix: Huge amount of white space (from 2012 edit)
Greetings, While viewing page Category:Wikipedia articles needing factual verification I noticed a huge amount of white space before the subcategory listings. This is way beyond anything I would be able to fix, so I'm asking for help here. At View history it looks like this revision caused the problem. Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 14:05, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- FWIW, I don't know exactly what's wrong but it is something from {{Parent monthly clean-up category}} that affects all category pages that use it. The white space is generated by the list of monthly entries before it is hidden, but the text doesn't move up to fill in the empty space as one would expect. --MASEM (t) 14:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- No idea either. If you preview the category it looks fine — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell in my browser (Opera), the {{Parent monthly clean-up category}} starts out expanded, forcing the category listings down; afterwards, the box contracts, butt the listings stay where they were originally. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Seems like a WebKit / Blink bug.
-- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}}
18:26, 5 April 2016 (UTC)- Yes, it's a browser inconsistency. The
{{Parent monthly clean up category}}
template encloses many links, one per line, making it very tall, so that in its uncollapsed state it forces page content downwards by a large distance. This template starts out uncollapsed, and collapses soon after all the JavaScript on the page starts to run. The actual problem is that upon collapsing, the content that previously it had forced down isn't moved up into the gap by all browsers. The most satisfactory solution would be to find sources for those unsourced claims - they go back to April 2007. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)- Thanks for the info. I see it renders correctly in IE-11 browser, but not on my "Chromium" browser. Recently I fixed a white-space issue at Wikipedia:Community portal by moving content template up into the base Community bulletin board template. Wonder if something like that might work here? Or is it just too complicate an issue? — JoeHebda • (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, it's a browser inconsistency. The
- Seems like a WebKit / Blink bug.
- As far as I can tell in my browser (Opera), the {{Parent monthly clean-up category}} starts out expanded, forcing the category listings down; afterwards, the box contracts, butt the listings stay where they were originally. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Redrose64 – After some more investigating, I wonder if that vertical template ({{Parent monthly clean up category}}
) could be replaced with a horizontal template of years. I did find {{Cat topic year}}
and asking if it could be used here? Regards, — JoeHebda • (talk) 19:58, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- The main problem there is that
{{Parent monthly clean up category}}
doesn't have one link per year, it's one per month. But altering the appearance of that cat will be controversial: the thing is, it's just one category out of a whole series, see Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month, which should basically be laid out in the same way. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Possible improvement of {{afd2}}
When the page name has a slash, this template wouldn't function properly [1], and led to deletions of many redirect pages to US [2]. --E8xE8 (talk) 14:28, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Unless the closing script below somehow calls upon {{afd2}} to identify the name of the page (and its redirects) to be deleted, I don't think this template was the problem. postdlf (talk) 16:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Bug in User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD
I'm crossposting this here as well as at User talk:Mr.Z-man, because the editor hasn't been active in months. This is a commonly used (and very useful) script that apparently gets confused when a page name has a forward slash in it ("/"). So when I closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Station not stream outside Canada/US as delete using this script, it ignored everything before the second forward slash in the page name and so deleted US and all other redirects to United States (it probably would have deleted that page as well if I had Steward rights to delete a page with so many edits). Quite a mess to clean up... Anyway, hopefully someone can take a look at the code at User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD2.js to see if this can be fixed. postdlf (talk) 14:34, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Who's good at Javascript regexes? Does
var patt = /\{\{la\|([^\}]+)\}\}/gim
mean what I think it does? It's right under the comment "get the articles involved", but I'm having a little trouble parsing this to understand if the[^\}]+
actually indicates any snippet of text after a /. Wnt (talk) 21:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC) ... Hmmm, this seems to be looking for the{{la|Station not stream outside Canada/US}}
in the article. Breaking it down I see / ... /gim around\{\{la\|([^\}]+)\}\}
. That matches {la| ... }}. Inside that I see([^\}]+)
, OK, that's anything NOT } inside the brackets... nay, as suspicious as it seemed that oughtn't be pushing the US separately on closeAFD.titles. There's another regex after thatCloseAFD.debate.replace(/ \(\w+ nomination\)/,
but unless it has CloseAFD.debate wrong it shouldn't ... hmmm... but that actually is set bymw.config.get('wgTitle').substr(mw.config.get('wgTitle').indexOf('/')+1)
... which also looks right, first slash. Acch, this is going to require real debugging, isn't it? Wnt (talk) 21:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- But this is an interesting edit. Apparently the title was glitched at the time of creation! Not sure how that would affect the page title you were actually viewing though. Wnt (talk) 21:40, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Postdlf: A fix on April 5 is what got rid of the {{la|US}} template call. A bug in Template:Afd2 is blamed. I should note though that the original listing by @Jeh: was on April 1, as was the fix that left the la template untouched. An obscure mechanism requiring a steward to delete United States was the only thing that stopped this from being a really notable April Fools' prank, but I have to say bravo for a bold effort. :) Perhaps though Template:la can be modified to put a CSS box or something equally noticeable around the actual la template output, so that future Fools have to be equally inventive. Wnt (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Wnt: I assure you, no "April Fools" (or other) joke was intended. I had no idea of this script issue. As the replies to that AFD indicated it was a completely righteous AFD. (I suppose next you're going to accuse me of being a sockmaster for the account that created that article, just to set this up?) I naively thought the script could be used without issue; I've opened one or two AFDs before. After using it to create the AFD entry I realized that some of what it had created, including the AFD entry's title and I don't remember exactly what else now - indeed referred to /US and not the whole article title, so I tried to fix it. I guess I didn't get everything, or maybe I couldn't have done anything that would fix what would happen when the article was actually deleted? Either way, I tried. You know, non-joke edits do occur on April 1 - maybe you should try a little AGF? Since it's a little late for that, I request a retraction and an apology. Jeh (talk) 18:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, the other alternative is that God or the universe wants the United States deleted, and you and afd2 and closeAFD were merely the instruments of one of its pranks. I'll peg the odds at, oh, sixty-forty, not sure which way. (I don't deny it was a righteous AfD ... but finding a righteously deletable article with the right text after the slash would have been necessary for the April Fools joke, since the admin has to really delete something) Wnt (talk) 18:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Articles containing slashes in their name should be avoided, in my opinion. While they can be created, there are various scripts that do funny things to them. Using the 'move subpages' admin function can misfire, for example. EdJohnston (talk) 19:05, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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The slash character is primarily a legal, legitimate title character for legal, legitimate titles.
— brion, Bugzilla, 2006
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- Articles containing slashes in their name should be avoided, in my opinion. While they can be created, there are various scripts that do funny things to them. Using the 'move subpages' admin function can misfire, for example. EdJohnston (talk) 19:05, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Well, the other alternative is that God or the universe wants the United States deleted, and you and afd2 and closeAFD were merely the instruments of one of its pranks. I'll peg the odds at, oh, sixty-forty, not sure which way. (I don't deny it was a righteous AfD ... but finding a righteously deletable article with the right text after the slash would have been necessary for the April Fools joke, since the admin has to really delete something) Wnt (talk) 18:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Wnt: I assure you, no "April Fools" (or other) joke was intended. I had no idea of this script issue. As the replies to that AFD indicated it was a completely righteous AFD. (I suppose next you're going to accuse me of being a sockmaster for the account that created that article, just to set this up?) I naively thought the script could be used without issue; I've opened one or two AFDs before. After using it to create the AFD entry I realized that some of what it had created, including the AFD entry's title and I don't remember exactly what else now - indeed referred to /US and not the whole article title, so I tried to fix it. I guess I didn't get everything, or maybe I couldn't have done anything that would fix what would happen when the article was actually deleted? Either way, I tried. You know, non-joke edits do occur on April 1 - maybe you should try a little AGF? Since it's a little late for that, I request a retraction and an apology. Jeh (talk) 18:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- When I think about it, if the afd2 script doesn't give you a good sense of what you're deleting, that is the bug. I mean, prank or no prank, other things like this could happen. I mean, any IP could add
<span style="display:none;">{{la|Main Page}}</span>
to an AfD he somehow guesses a steward will close, and my guess is... Wnt (talk) 02:53, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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- That regex is looking for a pattern of
{{la|...}}
, where "..." is one or more characters. The[^\}]+
means any characters that aren't a closing curly brace. The square brackets mean a set of characters, the carat (^) means negation--that is, match any character that's *not* in the set--and the \} is the curly brace; curly braces are a special character in regex, so they have to be escaped with a backslash. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 02:58, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- That regex is looking for a pattern of
Undo gives Error message on Talk page RfC
An editor has requested that a closed RfC be reopened after obtaining a second opinion to support his request. But when I try to undo the RfC closing edit there [3] it gives only an Error message. Since the request to reopen the RfC on Talk:English Democrats has been supported by a second opinion already then anyone can reopen it if someone can undo the linked close and not get the Error message. Could someone look at it. Fountains-of-Paris (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Fountains-of-Paris: Do you mean this message? It's because this edit has changed the situation. Try undoing that one first, then the one that you have trouble with. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Strange burst of activity at Special:Log/rights
- A large number of suddenly been "promoted" (the term used) with additional tools. Has a bot gone nuts or something? Irondome (talk) 23:29, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- It looks like autoconfirmed has been renamed to extendedconfirmed for some reason, which makes no sense.—cyberpowerChat:Online 23:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Apparently something to do with this and this. fredgandt 23:48, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- This is from phab:T126607, it's entirely expected. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 23:50, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- For some background on this, see WP:Extendedconfirmed, this updated section of the protection policy, and this village pump thread. In a nutshell, once an editor reaches 500 edits and 30 days tenure, they are automatically promoted into the "extendedconfirmed" user group, which allows them to edit pages protected by the new arbitration 30/500 article protection level. Mz7 (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- We ought to keep this out of the user rights log, it'll be a far too common event. Kharkiv07 (T) 00:12, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Agreed. Mz7 (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- It is a new autopromotion rule affecting the most active users, so the initial rate is probably going to be the peak, and over the course of the next week or so it should drop. We might be able to add a filter to the rights log like was done for the deletion log recently (I believe it reached the English Wikipedia last week). If such a feature were coded and merged into MediaWiki core now you might find the rate to be much better by the time it gets deployed. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 00:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. Mz7 (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Not sure what's going on but I've apparently gained "extendedconfirmed" rights..... –Davey2010Talk 00:34, 6 April 2016 (UTC)- Ah probably should've read the above first!, Would've been nice if we were all informed first seeing as I'm assuming most of us had no idea about this new rights thingy.... –Davey2010Talk 00:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes you have been "promoted". Exactly the language that the move was attempting to avoid, in the village pump discussion thread on it. Two issues. It will overload the log, as mentioned above, and such a term as promoted will give some newbies grounds for confusion, and probable behavioural issues based on flawed ideas of "promotion" if they edit in those areas and get into conflict.as this seems to be intimating. Irondome (talk) 00:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Did you raise these issues in that discussion thread? --Krenair (talk • contribs) 00:47, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- How could I when I was not even aware of the discussion? Irondome (talk) 00:51, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed, I too was unaware of this discussion until my watchlist became completely flooded with these promotions. I'm active on Wikipedia's meta parts every day.—cyberpowerChat:Online 00:57, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- A comment and a question:
- Comment: people can check to make sure this new protection level isn't being used in non-ArbCom-approved ways here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AProtectedPages&namespace=&type=edit&level=extendedconfirmed&sizetype=min&size=
- Question: Where is the MediaWiki page used in the admin's page protection form? It's calling it "Established Editors and Administrators" there. Also calls it "established editor protected" in the table in the link above.
- --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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- You can almost always add &uselang=qqx to the URL to find that info. In this case you are looking for MediaWiki:Protect-level-extendedconfirmed. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 01:09, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Odd, it isn't in [4]. But thanks, that's what I was looking for. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Pretty sure only existing local override pages are listed there. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 01:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
-
- Yeah, it said there was no local page, so I just created it, and now it's there. Thanks. My first MediaWiki-space edit ever, at least that I can recall. And the wiki appears not to have broken. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Floquenbeam: Special:PrefixIndex only lists pages that exist locally, but Special:AllMessages also shows those that are recognised but not yet created - go to this list and try the "Filter by customization state" radio button. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, it said there was no local page, so I just created it, and now it's there. Thanks. My first MediaWiki-space edit ever, at least that I can recall. And the wiki appears not to have broken. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- You might also be interested in MediaWiki:group-extendedconfirmed, MediaWiki:group-extendedconfirmed-member, MediaWiki:grouppage-extendedconfirmed, MediaWiki:right-extendedconfirmed, and MediaWiki:restriction-level-extendedconfirmed. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 01:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Eeesh. Well, it would've been better not to light up everyone's watchlists with "automatically promoted" after we deliberately used a nice neutral bland-sounding name for this thing... but it's good that this is moving forward. Does anyone know/can anyone check whether admins can remove the extendedconfirmed usergroup after it's been automatically assigned? I tested it on my sock, but it's short of 500 edits so I had to assign the right first. Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Special:ListGroupRights shows that admins are able to remove the right. Also the autopromote-once system should detect that they've done this and not automatically re-grant it on their next edit. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 01:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks Krenair; I can never remember where to find that stuff. Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:50, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- I've asked an editor who just got it and appears active if she minds being a guinea pig. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- OR, I just confirmed that removing the right from someone who got it automatically doesn't get overridden with their next edit. Thanks to Nikkimaria for volunteering to be the guinea pig. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:11, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Good to know, thank you both for testing! Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:07, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- OR, I just confirmed that removing the right from someone who got it automatically doesn't get overridden with their next edit. Thanks to Nikkimaria for volunteering to be the guinea pig. --Floquenbeam (talk) 02:11, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Special:ListGroupRights shows that admins are able to remove the right. Also the autopromote-once system should detect that they've done this and not automatically re-grant it on their next edit. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 01:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- We need to change the editnotice when people not meeting the level try to edit. Kharkiv07 (T) 01:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Poco a poco. The page hasn't even been protected with the new right yet. --Floquenbeam (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes sysops can manually add or revoke the permission. What hasn't been well tested is that if it stays revoked, the phab ticket suggested it would (as it uses a "promote once" type of scheme). — xaosflux Talk 01:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Can this new level of protection be added to Twinkle? I didn't see it listed right now. That tool is usually how I protect pages. Liz Read! Talk! 15:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Looks like that's possible by an admin editing MediaWiki:Gadget-twinkleprotect.js. Take a look at how the custom templateeditor protection is dealt with there. --Krenair (talk • contribs) 15:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Can this new level of protection be added to Twinkle? I didn't see it listed right now. That tool is usually how I protect pages. Liz Read! Talk! 15:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Moved from #New protection level:
- I don't know if this is the right thread/subthread, but why must every single user on my Watchlist show up with the extendedconfirmed confirmation? Is there a way to keep this off of watchlists? I can't read my watchlist for all of these extendedconfirmed confirmations. Softlavender (talk) 09:49, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know, but it's a good way of finding out whose talk pages you're still watching after having posted a message three years ago, long since actioned, replied and archived, so no need to watch any more. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- This is mentioned higher up - but the short answer is no this can't be suppressed - it only occurs on edit so expect the rate of it occurring to fall off rapidly. You may want to temporarily use the watchlist filters to check namespaces you are interested in if there are a lot on your list (e.g. article/wikipedia). — xaosflux Talk 11:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know, but it's a good way of finding out whose talk pages you're still watching after having posted a message three years ago, long since actioned, replied and archived, so no need to watch any more. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Promoted verbiage
I boldly changed the interface message from promoted to updated at MediaWiki:Rightslogentry-autopromote and MediaWiki:Logentry-rights-autopromote. — xaosflux Talk 02:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Wise edit! Irondome (talk) 02:25, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! This should finally dissociate the new user group from fancy styles like "promoted" and "established". Mz7 (talk) 02:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Statistics
Might be interesting to keep an eye on Special:Statistics - there are currently ~1650 users in this group - tracking this will be able to provide a real time count of how many registered established seasoned editors are around for a bit. — xaosflux Talk 03:38, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Xaosflux: Is this right only being given when eligible editors make an edit? Sam Walton (talk) 11:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
New protection level
A few things:
- I asked about updating {{pp}} at Template talk:Pp#Extended confirmed protection if anyone is interested. Currently we're using a cheaply written {{pp-30-500}} on pages with editing restrictions enforced by Special:AbuseFilter/698.
- See Killings and massacres during the 1948 Palestine war for an example of a page using this new level of protection. It adds a pink background to the source window, like it does for template and fully-protected pages. Do we really want that? It's true you should "edit with caution" on these controversial topics, but that's more regarding behaviour than some technical aspect like editing interface pages
I'm going to hold off on protecting more of the affected pages until we get this ironed out — MusikAnimal talk 05:02, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- No, we do not want this. Red background basically says "Do not edit!", whereas in this case we have just extended semi, when established editors are perfectly welcome to edit the article.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:40, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed with YMB regarding the pink background. --Izno (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Let's get rid of it, then. I see the
mw-textarea-protected
CSS class is being added, which leads me to believe it's a site configuration. I've asked at phab:T126607 — MusikAnimal talk 15:07, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Let's get rid of it, then. I see the
- Agreed with YMB regarding the pink background. --Izno (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
A question about the protection message
Is there any reason why the protection banner on the new extended confirmed protected pages say WARNING: This page has been protected so that only users with extended confirmed rights can make edits. See Wikipedia:Protection policy#Arbitration 30/500 protection. This seems offputting, especially with ALL CAPS and the WARNING on it.
Can we have a more friendly message, similar to the semi-protection message? Note: This page has been semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need any help getting started with editing, see the New contributors' help page. Except replace "semi" with "extended", "autoconfirmed" with "extended confirmed", and "New contributors' help page" with "Wikipedia:Protection policy#Arbitration 30/500 protection" (updating the links accordingly).
Right now, the WARNING!!! sign seems a little too scary for normal editing. epicgenius @ 14:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC) (talk) 14:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Extended confirmed uses MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning like all other protection levels except semi-protected which uses MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning. MediaWiki:Protectedpagewarning has said "WARNING" most of the time since 2003. It would be possible to write something else depending on the protection level. MediaWiki talk:Protectedpagewarning seems like the place to discuss it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
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- Ah, I see. Maybe if the wording is changed, MediaWiki:Semiprotectedpagewarning should also cover extended protection. epicgenius @ 15:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC) (talk) 15:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- I created discussion at MediaWiki talk:Protectedpagewarning. epicgenius @ 15:42, 6 April 2016 (UTC) (talk) 15:42, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Non-empty disambiguation categories
Category:Buildings and structures in Georgia is a disambiguation category, so it should be empty, but it currently has a subcategory. We already have a way of detecting non-empty categories; see the warning immediately below the template in this test diff. Is it possible to introduce a feature into {{Category disambiguation}} whereby it would use the same feature to study whether the category's empty, and when it's not, it would transclude a maintenance category comparable to Commons:Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories? Nyttend (talk) 01:42, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- It's certainly possible, as the following code does the same with {{category redirect}}:
{{#ifexpr:{{PAGESINCATEGORY:{{PAGENAME}}|R}}|[[Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories]]}}
- However, this won't categorize and decategorize the page in real time. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- What's the action that needs to be taken when a disambiguation category contains a subcategory? Just remove the disambiguation category from the subcategory? Sounds like a good task for a bot. I'll set up a tracking category for these in a few hours if no-one else gets to it. ~ RobTalk 15:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- More like figure out which category should be used, and replace it. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 15:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- What's the action that needs to be taken when a disambiguation category contains a subcategory? Just remove the disambiguation category from the subcategory? Sounds like a good task for a bot. I'll set up a tracking category for these in a few hours if no-one else gets to it. ~ RobTalk 15:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
See Category:Non-empty disambiguation categories. We'll have to wait a half hour or so to see if there's actually a backlog here. ~ RobTalk 15:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Template:Service_award_progress
Hi! I'm wondering if someone who is more familiar with template syntax than I am could take a look at Template:Service_award_progress to add a gender-neutral option and default to the genderoverride parameter? Currently, it defaults to "he or she", which excludes non-binary editors. Thanks! :) Goldenshimmer (talk) 02:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Our XX male syndrome, XXYY syndrome, XYY syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, and Turner syndrome articles all address the subjects as male or female, and XY sex-determination system doesn't address other disorders that produce individuals that are neither male nor female; unless these articles are missing something significant, there's no third option. Nyttend (talk) 03:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Our system prefs have gender neutral/he/she options that should be able to be leveraged. Though on things like this I'm usually just in favor of singular they. — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Goldenshimmer: I looked into it. The genderoverride parameter already allows any input. The documentation just sucks. I'm updating it now. ~ RobTalk 12:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @BU Rob13: Ah, sweet, thanks! :) Goldenshimmer (talk) 18:02, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Goldenshimmer: I looked into it. The genderoverride parameter already allows any input. The documentation just sucks. I'm updating it now. ~ RobTalk 12:33, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Our system prefs have gender neutral/he/she options that should be able to be leveraged. Though on things like this I'm usually just in favor of singular they. — xaosflux Talk 03:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Captcha broken
The captcha interface at ClueBot NG Report Interface is broken, it does not accept correctly entered strings. (It's also a different captcha from the one Wikipdia uses) Can it be switched to the SolveMedia system or something that actually works? Does this thing require Flash or something? (If it does, there should be a big warning about what should be installed/allowed to use the page)
-- 70.51.45.100 (talk) 04:13, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Wma.wmflabs.org down
Does anyone know why wma.wmflabs.org is down? It's responsible for every map in the dropdown maps that are on articles, so I assume someone has logged this somewhere else, since it is kind of relevant to this project. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- This was broken by a recent DNS upgrade on labs. It's a subcase of this bug: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131367 -- I've put in a one-off hack that will fix it in the meantime, but if/when someone tries to modify the proxy setup in Horizon the effects will be baffling :( Andrewbogott (talk) 19:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have filed a ticket here, but it appears as though Andrew has a better link above, to the issue. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Automatic rcat for moves
I've noticed that some older moves had {{redr|from move}}
automatically placed on them, but now it seems to use {{R from move}}
instead. I don't know when or why this was changed, but I think it should be restored to the previous behavior, as {{redr}}
is more robust, including automatically sensing protection levels. nyuszika7h (talk) 18:10, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Nyuszika7H: You may be interested in MediaWiki_talk:Move-redirect-text#Redr, because I suspect that (unclosed but 30-days-past) RFC is probably relevant to your comments. --Izno (talk) 18:22, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
{{R from move}}
is automatically added to redirects created when moving a page, this began at 08:44, 18 October 2013 when I created MediaWiki:Move-redirect-text; before that no template was added automatically. Template talk:R from move#Request for comment has background.- There was a short period (05:51, 6 October 2015 to 16:15, 11 November 2015) when
{{redr|from move}}
was used instead. I expect these "older moves" noticed by Nyuszika7H (talk · contribs) date from that five-week period last year. - As regards restoring that behaviour, see User talk:Mr. Stradivarius/Archive 23#Redirects from moves and User talk:Redrose64/unclassified 14#Move redirect text. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Deleting module pages?
How does one go about getting module pages deleted? I created Module:Sandbox/AlexTheWhovian/sandbox to create my own module sandbox, per the instructions at Module:Sandbox, but decided to move/change it to Module:Sandbox/AlexTheWhovian. How do I go about getting the former page deleted? Twinkle gives me an error when I try, stating "Tagging page: Failed to save edit: The modification you tried to make was aborted by an extension hook". Alex|The|Whovian? 07:38, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- @AlexTheWhovian: You poke an admin :) You can try tagging the talk page and hope the admin who deletes it is paying attention. Opabinia regalis (talk) 08:04, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Gotchya, thanks for that! Alex|The|Whovian? 08:06, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Interface editor
Rights not yet. --BasBibi (talk) 15:35, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- ?—cyberpowerChat:Online 15:36, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- You requested WP:Confirmed twice during your first four days here; you requested Rollback (on the wrong page) when your account was two days old[5], and you have several made requests about Sukhumi, including having it de-protected so that you could repeatedly add a link to a website that is being considered for the spam blacklist to it (User:Beetstra, do you want to take a look at that?), but I see no evidence that you have requested interface editor.
- Special:CentralAuth/BasBibi shows that your account has only 80 (eighty) edits across all wikis and is blocked as a sockpuppet at the Russian Wikipedia. Even if you had requested this userright, I would expect your request to be immediately rejected. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- Also, there's a request for extended-confirmed rights at Meta. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:54, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- @WhatamIdoing: The abuse seems to focus on one or two pages, of which at least one is semi-protected. If editors are only here to wait to become confirmed so they can continue the abuse, then that warrants, as happened here I think, an immediate block of the account (and might warrant temporary expansion to full protection). That being said, I get also inclined to add the site to the blacklist, but I am not convinced that that will stop the abuse more than the semi-protection (there is more being edited than only the external link, and the external link (well, nothing) can already not be added by unconfirmed and IP editors). --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Also, there's a request for extended-confirmed rights at Meta. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:54, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Format glitch
Right now, on Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard, {{archive top}} is at war with code found at the foot of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/Header, such that the closure message for Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Rory_Ridley-Duff is found at the foot of "Help answer requested edits" right-side table, and there's an acre of so of white space beneath #Rory_Ridley-Duff & Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Reward_Gateway. If this could be fettled, that would be appreciated. (All this on firefox on a mac, should it be a browser issue). thx. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:35, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- You've got two right-floated objects. They will always stack up like that, it's working as per the CSS specs. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:48, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- I trust you were sucking your teeth as you wrote that, RR. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:07, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Add articles to watchlist from another user's contrib history?
Hi all, gnome admin here. Was curious if anyone had any clever script-y solution to an idea I have. (I pitched it at the Idea lab, but I think my pitch is causing confusion.)
Scenario:
- Let's say I just discovered a dude who I suspect of being a sock operator. This guy, for example.
- He's edited a bunch of articles recently, and I want to add a bunch of them to my own watchlist, so that after I block him, if he were to come back and re-edit those articles, it would be on my watchlist, and sockpuppetry would be easily caught.
- Currently, I have to go to each article and click the little star, or go into my raw watchlist and copy/paste. That's time consuming.
- I would benefit from a tool that would allow me to see what pages in his contrib history I already have watchlisted, and that would allow me to add articles to my watchlist directly from his contrib history.
Can such madness be done?
I do, of course, see the possibility that this tool could be used for on-site harassment, so I'm thinking that it might best be created as an admin tool for now. Thoughts? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- It could be done by a tool but you could do it with minimal editing, by grabbing a list of the user's contributions, and then editing your raw watchlist using Special:EditWatchlist/raw - there's a link at the top of your watchist page. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:56, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hi. I would enjoy making a User script to make this easily possible for you. I can start right away, but might not get it done before I slip off the the land of Nod. I'm loathed to work on it if
- You wouldn't want it
- Someone else is gonna beat me to it
- Shall I go ahead? fredgandt 04:05, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
-
- You could use AWB. Make a list with user contribs as the source, copy the list and paste it into your raw watchlist. Melonkelon (talk) 04:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: - I've got most of the way done with watchUserContribs.js, which you can use by adding
mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Fred_Gandt/watchUserContribs.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' );
or simplyimportScript( 'User:Fred_Gandt/watchUserContribs.js' );
if you're a rebel, to your common JavaScript page. - All that's left to do is marking the listed contribs respectfully depending on if you're watching them, and do some tests, but the basics seem to work okay (use at own risk).
- It may not be a built in tool, but it at least gives an impression of whether such a feature can be useful, and thus is at least a place to start. fredgandt 05:24, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Fred Gandt, cool man, thanks! I'll install this in a bit and see how it goes! Many thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- No problem. It'll have some kind of marking for the pages that are currently on your watchlist either later or tomorrow (just got back from walking the dog, need food then sleep). Other than that, I don't have any alterations planned, but if there's anything specific you'd suggest changing (or it fails), message me. fredgandt 09:48, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Fred Gandt, cool man, thanks! I'll install this in a bit and see how it goes! Many thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
-
-
- As far as my limited testing reveals, it's good to go. It should be pretty efficient although can be tweaked to utilise sessionStorage if needed. The checkboxes will be outlined in blue if the page is on your watchlist. I didn't add a one click per page option as the extra code and HTML seems kinda pointless to save one click; if you want to un/watch just one page, check its box and click the appropriate option button (top and bottom of the list). The de/select all checkbox (top and bottom) works as expected. API calls are minimised by submitting only unique pages and by omitting talk titles, so don't worry about selecting multiple instances of the same page.
- Due to the great variety of Wikipedia, I wouldn't be surprised if you see things I haven't accounted for; if there are any problems, please let me know so I can fix them. If it fails outright, please check your browser's console ( Ctrl+⇧ Shift+i in Chrome ) for errors before messaging me. fredgandt 11:57, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
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Utilizing template: Globalize within template: Multiple issues
I'm wondering whether it's possible to add a discussion functionality to the template within a template as I tried to do here. I'm proposing something like this: (Discuss). Is it less useful then because of the possibility of discussion on the talk page already being linked at the top of the main template?
24.52.247.20 (talk) 05:23, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- There is currently an RfC in progress discussing the addition of talk links to child templates of {{Multiple issues}} (talk). I would suggest joining that. fredgandt 06:34, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Can someone explain this edit summary
And, no I did not copy that, no way. --QEDK (T ☕ C) 09:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Browsers can remember old edit summaries and suggest them if your current edit summary is a prefix of an old edit summary. In this edit the day before you had that edit summary. I guess your new edit at some point had a matching prefix (it would only require an initial slash) and you accidentally selected a suggested summary. It only requires a click or pressing enter. In case you don't know, the edit summary gets a linked arrow and grey text whenever it starts with
/* ... */
. Section edits automatically start with that prefilled in the box but it can also be entered manually. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:15, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Cross-wiki login not happening
For the last week or two, I've noticed that, If I log in on this Wikipedia, I'm not logged in on sister projects; and vice versa. I am logged in on other Wikipedias. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: When this happens, it might be because some servers have still got records for old logins that should have been invalidated. There are two things that you could try: (i) use your browser's "remove individual cookies" feature (if it has one) to delete any cookie whose site includes the strings "mediawiki", "wikimedia" or "wikipedia"; (ii) log in as normal, then explicitly log out again using the "log out" link top right - this should force all login cookies to be invalidated. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
RfC: Preferred protocol for external links
IP addresses and spam blacklist
If I understand the first regex of MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist, \b^\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\b
, it is supposed to prevent links by IP address. So why are users still able to insert a link like http://74.125.206.100/spam and the blacklist does not prevent it? Dalba 16:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- I tested this on a test wiki and after removing the
^
anchor the regex works as I expected. Dalba 16:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC) - This has been the case pretty much since the line was added to the blacklist. I agree: it can surely never match anything, because you can't have a word boundary (
\b
) before the beginning of a string (^
). I think the^
needs removing: indeed, the extension documentation suggests it's useless in every case. I think(?<=//)\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\b
is what is actually intended, but I'm by no means an expert. Relentlessly (talk) 17:37, 8 April 2016 (UTC) - Pinging Reaper Eternal and MER-C — JJMC89 (T·C) 17:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- The current documentation is from [6] which refers to phab:T66541. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:10, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Adjusted to (?<=//)\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\b. MER-C 06:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- @MER-C: I've reverted your change as it is preventing certain users (including me) IP addresses from being saved (see these edits for example [7] [8]). Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- It couldn't be saved because {{IPvandal}} calls {{User-multi}} with a
http
parameter. It causes Module:UserLinks to make a http:// link to the IP address in Module:UserLinks/extra. If we want IP addresses blacklisted then this must be changed. Maybe the module could add a dummy query parameter, and the blacklist regex be designed to allow IP links with such a parameter. I don't know whether IP adresses in external links is a widespread problem. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:21, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- It couldn't be saved because {{IPvandal}} calls {{User-multi}} with a
- @MER-C: I've reverted your change as it is preventing certain users (including me) IP addresses from being saved (see these edits for example [7] [8]). Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Adjusted to (?<=//)\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\b. MER-C 06:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikilink in note
Hi, I am trying to get the link to Gold (Rhodes novel) to work in note [a] in the infobox of my Sandbox, in the same way as it works in article So Long, See You Tomorrow, any ideas ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 18:36, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- I think it's the unused pipe in
[[Gold (Rhodes novel)|]]
. Remove it or add the alternative text and it should work. Nthep (talk) 18:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)- Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 18:58, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, this was a case of Help:Pipe trick#Where it doesn't work. Many things don't work inside ref tags. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:31, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Date of the creating of Wikipedia
Hi ever1. Where I can find a dates of the creating of Wikipedias? For exempl: http://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaGrowthSummary.htm - date of the creating of Kurdish Wikipedia is Jun 2002. In return , the Francais Wikipedia (fr:Wikipédia_en_kurde) and otherlang Wikipedias take 7 Jan 2004 (without links). So where is true? — Green Zero обг 15:44, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- They weren't all created the same date. History of Wikipedia has a Timeline section. But if you go to the English wikipedia page of whichever one you have in mind, it should tell you in the infobox. For instance, French Wikipedia says it launched 23 March 2001. Spanish Wikipedia launched May 11, 2001. The first link you provided does not say it's the date the different languages were launched. It says those are the first edits. — Maile (talk) 19:51, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'll add that the "first edit" is not actually the first edits. Many of the early edits were not saved by the software used in the early days of Wikipedia and are likely gone forever. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:24, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon
Hi, I was wondering if somebody here could generate a list of the 100 most visited articles on wikipedia for Wales, the most recent figure? I don't know if wikidata has that ability and you can autogenerate a list, but I need a list of the most visited as I'm considering placing new points on them. I was also wondering if somebody could create a list of articles listed within Wikipedia:WikiProject Wales/Awaken the Dragon/Core articles which have any tag slopped on them. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:36, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- "Answer" to first question: request it here. The result will be something like this. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 10:46, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- And to second: Petscan with such settings shows, that there are no clean-up tags in those articles. --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 10:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Cheers Edgar.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:41, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
CSVLoader
Hi, is there any why to create articles with Wikipedia:CSVLoader if article name contains a comma (,)?--ԱշոտՏՆՂ (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Putting article name in quotes doesn't help? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 14:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC)