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Contents
- 1 Why??
- 2 Error in the iPad Pro display reference
- 3 Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2015
- 4 Technical Issues
- 5 Smaller iPad Pro
- 6 Capital i in the title
- 7 New Article?
- 8 iPad Air 2 as predecessor
- 9 Clock speed is 2.26 GHz not 2.24
- 10 Current software version is iOS 9.3.4, not 9.3.3
- 11 Missing reftags
- 12 Error in Known issues reference
- 13 See MacBook Pro for one way to handle the new iPad Pros
- 14 Wayback
- 15 Adding third generation reviews subheading
- 16 About listing successors (and in turn, predecessors)
Why??
Why isn't this considered part of the main line of the iPad devices?? Georgia guy (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- My guess is because the iPad Air, iPad Mini and iPad Pro are each considered different product lines. --Bomyne (talk) 06:08, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- My understanding is that this is not the latest model in the iPad Air series; this is a new product line. I believe that when this is released, you'll be able to purchase either an iPad Mini, iPad Air, or iPad Pro as they are three separate product lines. The iPad Pro isn't the latest model in the iPad Air series. --MrMoonshine (talk) 07:07, 17 September 2015 (CDT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrMoonshine (talk • contribs)
- Correct. —zziccardi (talk) 14:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- One important fact about this question is that contrary to what User:MrMoonshine is implying, I'm not talking about it being the third iPad Air; I'm talking about it being the seventh in the main iPad line, after the iPad, iPad 2, 3, 4, Air, and Air 2 (with Air and Air 2 being 5 and 6.) Georgia guy (talk) 14:22, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- As with the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and MacBook, the iPad Pro, iPad Air, and iPad Mini are all treated as distinct product lines by both Apple and reliable sources. Thus, it's a separate entity from the original iPad (or iPad Air) lineup, regardless of the numbering schemes. —zziccardi (talk) 15:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Also the differentiation in screen size as well as accessories made specifically for the iPad Pro (smart keyboard and pencil) clearly indicates that its primary use is different from the main iPad line. The iPad Air was put into the main iPad line because it retains the same screen size, as well as Apple clearly mentioning that they were renaming the iPad as iPad Air simply because of its smaller physical dimensions. — AYTK talk. 15:54, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- As with the MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, and MacBook, the iPad Pro, iPad Air, and iPad Mini are all treated as distinct product lines by both Apple and reliable sources. Thus, it's a separate entity from the original iPad (or iPad Air) lineup, regardless of the numbering schemes. —zziccardi (talk) 15:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- One important fact about this question is that contrary to what User:MrMoonshine is implying, I'm not talking about it being the third iPad Air; I'm talking about it being the seventh in the main iPad line, after the iPad, iPad 2, 3, 4, Air, and Air 2 (with Air and Air 2 being 5 and 6.) Georgia guy (talk) 14:22, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Correct. —zziccardi (talk) 14:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Error in the iPad Pro display reference
The article states " iPad Pro introduces a new display layer that detects force and reduces latency." The sources cited do not indicate that force detection has been introduced (it hasn't). The pencil detects force, not the display. The text should be replaced with "iPad Pro introduces a new display with increased responsiveness and precision over previous iPad displays with Apple Pencil support added.
Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2015
In the feature section
Improved face detection
is mentioned twice, the duplicate should be removed.
Craftit (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Technical Issues
iPad Pros are prone to becoming completely unresponsive while being charged needing a hard reset to get it working again. It has happened to me about 4 times in a week!
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2015/11/apple-confirms-ipad-pro-charging-problem-a-fix-is-on-the-way — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.154.116.195 (talk) 18:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Smaller iPad Pro
At the March 21 press conference, Apple said it is going to release a 9.7-inch version of the Pro. So how should this article be renamed to reflect that there are two models? Or should all the information be in this article, since the major difference is screen size and the smaller Pro has a better camera (12MP)? --Frmorrison (talk) 18:30, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Capital i in the title
The title should start with lowercase i. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.24.147.239 (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
- This is a technical limitation of the MediaWiki software. The article has the 'fix' template included. I just added it to this talk page as well. Ckoerner (talk) 19:48, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
New Article?
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page not split. --Frmorrison (talk) 18:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
I think the article is too mixed between the pro and pro 9.7 inch. Looks like a split is needed. WP:SPLIT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUSConservative (talk • contribs) 04:55, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
- How is this too mixed? Please elaborate. For the MacBook Pro there is no splitting into 13" and 15" (and I don't think it necessary) while they have vastly different hardware. 77.87.224.99 (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - Two articles would end up duplicating much information. The differences, as they stand, can be handled here. JbhTalk 14:12, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - ditto. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 15:42, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- I am also inlined to disagree. I’d rather see this article being treated as the articles for the iPhone 6(s)/- Plus. They were released within a short timespan after each other and cover the same information.–Totie (talk) 17:12, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - I agree with Jbhunley, but also because various other products that have two-size variations for the same product are also contained in a single page (the Nintendo DSi/DSi XL, for example). Too much info will be carried over from one page to another, because the only real discernible difference is the size. (Jeimii (talk) 20:14, 30 March 2016 (UTC))
- Oppose - Even though I don't have one (of either), I think a new article (iPad Pro 9.7) would make things less confusing in the long run, because if Apple does the same thing in November 2016 and/or March 2017, it would turn into a kind of iPad, making another new article, making twice as much sense (literally). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE12:E0C0:40DB:2785:3332:6798 (talk) 02:13, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
- If you think a new article would make things less confusing, aren't you supporting the split rather than opposing it? Guy Harris (talk) 23:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - Agree with Jbhunley and Totie. MacBook articles are not split based on size, and their size variations can have larger differences compared to the iPad Pros. – Nick Mitchell 98 talk 08:06, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - I can't see enough differences to justify a dedicated article. I think both are variants of the same line of models and the differences can be dealt with inside one single article. OceanO (talk) 09:47, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - They're mostly the same, I don't think it really makes sense to split the two types into different articles. Datbubblegumdoe[talk – contribs] 19:10, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - as 77.87.224.99 says, this is no different from the MacBook Pro, which also has two different sizes.
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
iPad Air 2 as predecessor
There have been several edits to designate the iPad Air as the predecessor. Based on the several reverts there is no concensus for this. As I understand the material from Apple the Pro line is different from the regular iPad line and was inagurated by the 12in Pro. Does anyone know of sources saying otherwise. JbhTalk 14:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support - as of this source: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.28.178 (talk) 04:11, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- That source says absolutely nothing, whatsoever, about the 9.7" iPad Pro being a successor to the 9.7" iPad Air. It compares them, but that doesn't mean one is a predecessor or successor to it, it merely means that, if you're looking for a tablet of that size, they're alternatives. Guy Harris (talk) 07:03, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Clock speed is 2.26 GHz not 2.24
One of the references links to http://www.anandtech.com/show/9780/taking-notes-with-ipad-pro/2
This webpage mentions 2.26 GHz. There are two occurrences in this article mentioning the number 2.24
84.173.192.62 (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Done. 84.173.218.160 (talk) 14:50, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
References
Current software version is iOS 9.3.4, not 9.3.3
The current version listed for the iPad Pro at the moment is still iOS 9.3.3, but today Apple released iOS 9.3.4 which is supported for the iPad Pro 12.9 and 9.7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommykackert (talk • contribs) 00:49, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
- So change it to 9.3.4. Guy Harris (talk) 02:27, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Missing reftags
The "History" and "Features" sections do not have any citations or reftags. Sources for that section of information need to be added as tags in that section. Alilykat (talk) 16:42, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Error in Known issues reference
Article states "The device was known to shut down randomly." Both sources cited do not mention that it was a random shut down. They mention that after being charged the device would completely freeze for a few seconds, then shut down. Should also be mentioned that this issue only happened to the 12.9 inch iPad Pro, not the 9.7 inch (had not been released yet). Alilykat (talk) 16:42, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
See MacBook Pro for one way to handle the new iPad Pros
MacBook Pro covers the entire history of laptops named "MacBook Pro", from the first ones to the current touch bar models.
If this page is to cover the entire history of tablets named "iPad Pro", from the first 12.7" one to the ones announced at WWDC 2017, it should probably do so in a similar fashion. If this page is to cover only the first generation, with the 12.7" and 9.7" models, it should be renamed "iPad Pro (first generation)" or something such as that. Guy Harris (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- I agree that it would be a good idea to organize this article by making this one cover all four Pro models, similar to iPad Mini, and then having iPad Pro (1st generation) and iPad Pro (2nd generation) articles created. --Frmorrison (talk) 21:24, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- I thought, starting with iPad (2017), we are inclining towards year-based naming: iPad Pro (2017). But this is problematic, as the previous iPad Pro 12.7" was released in 2015, and the iPad Pro 9.7" was released in 2016. — Peterwhy 23:10, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
- Exactly. The inclination may be to year-based naming when that works, but the first generation doesn't have a year associated with it. In addition, Apple haven't yet muddied the waters of naming the way they did with the new iPad; the whole mess of "so what generation is that iPad, anyway?" was the reason to give up and go for a year as the identifier. Guy Harris (talk) 04:36, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Just be careful when calling the 2017 iPad Pro devices as second generation. These are what the iPad Pro devices are called in full in the iOS 10 page:
- 12.9‑inch iPad Pro 2nd generation
- 12.9‑inch iPad Pro 1st generation
- 10.5‑inch iPad Pro
- 9.7‑inch iPad Pro
- And it is not clear what generation the 10.5-inch iPad Pro is. I know, only reliable sources matter, but this can cause trouble in the future.
- Also, in what way did Apple muddied the waters for iPad (2017 / 5th generation)? By reusing the generation number that media assumed what iPad Air was? — Peterwhy 09:39, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- Just be careful when calling the 2017 iPad Pro devices as second generation. These are what the iPad Pro devices are called in full in the iOS 10 page:
- So maybe there should be separate sections for "12.9‑inch iPad Pro 1st generation", "9.7‑inch iPad Pro", and "10.5‑inch iPad Pro and 12.9‑inch iPad Pro 2nd generation".
- "By reusing the generation number that media assumed what iPad Air was?" Yes. If they'd called it the 7th generation iPad, counting the iPad Air and iPad Air 2 as the 5th and 6th generations, we wouldn't have had edit wars over "5th generation" vs. "7th generation" (well, we might have, this being Wikipedia after all, but the pro-5th-generation people wouldn't have had as much of a leg to stand on). Guy Harris (talk) 19:36, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
- We should wait until next week to see how the media handles naming in product reviews before creating/naming more articles. We settled on iPad (2017) because that was the most commonly used name in the media. --Frmorrison (talk) 18:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Passer-by comment: Please excuse me for this somewhat off-topic comment, I just cannot let the opportunity pass by. Angela Ahrendts did an interview with CBS This Morning a while back, and said: "Everything at Apple has to be simple". I laughed at that sentiment following the iPad (2017) discussion, and now a new discussion probably comes into action. Company logic is in full play :P LocalNet (talk) 09:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
- Hey, it's simple! They're just following the same pattern as MacBook/MacBook Air/MacBook Pro, right? :-) Guy Harris (talk) 17:15, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Wayback
I have to Wayback Machine this link. How do you properly indicate that a site has been Wayback Machined? Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 02:04, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
- By using one of the {{cite XXX}} templates, and putting the Web archive URL in as archive-url= and the archiving date as archive-date=. See the change I made to that reference. Guy Harris (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Like Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 21:23, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Adding third generation reviews subheading
Now that the 2018 iPad Pro models have been released, perhaps it’s time to start adding this new subheading under the main article. However, I do not have the expertise to find proper sources, the least I can contribute to this subheading is by adding it under the main article. Adding the subheading is easy enough, but my only obstacle is risking the chances of being pegged as a vandal (a Wikipedia admin or mod might see it as “adding a subheading and leaving it empty?! really?”).
So what I’m trying to say is... does anyone want to take the initiative to add it and put in some substantial content along with it? Thanks for your input.
RayDeeUx (talk) 23:57, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
- EDIT: ISSUE HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. PLEASE IGNORE THIS SECTION. (RayDeeUx (talk) 00:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC))
About listing successors (and in turn, predecessors)
OK, this issue may have been addressed to SOME extent much, much earlier (around the time when the original article was first created). It's been agreed that users should NOT list the iPad Air as the iPad Pro's predecessor. However, just recently, a revision was made where the successor was listed as the 2017 iPad. I've made the edited line into a comment to preserve it just in case, and now I've brought this issue to everyone's attention so that all the Apple fanboys here in Wikipedia can address this issue whenever possible.
RayDeeUx (talk) 00:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC)