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Categories for discussion (CfD) is where the renaming, merging or deletion of categories – i.e. pages in the Category namespace – is discussed and action decided. Stub types templates are also discussed here.
Categories are used to organize pages and aid the browsing of related articles. For instructions as to how to use this page, perform cleanup maintenance or request speedy deletions or renamings, see "How to use CfD" below. The policies meant to guide category renaming may be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories).
Unless a change to a category is non-controversial – e.g. prompted by vandalism or duplication – please do not amend or remove the category from pages before a decision has been made.
Categories that have been listed for more than seven days are eligible for deletion, renaming or merging when a rough consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to the nomination have been raised.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, it is usually helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Contents
Scope
CfD is only intended for discussions where an editor already has a clear action proposal in mind. For general brainstorming on how to improve the category system, good places for discussion include Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and the talk pages of any WikiProjects relevant to the content covered by the categories in question.
Current discussions
Discussions awaiting closure
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 5 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 4 (1 open – 2009 in British Rally Championship)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 3 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 2 (1 open – Lebanese people of Maronite Christian descent)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 30 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 29 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 28 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 27 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 26 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 25 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 24 (1 open – Royal Prussia)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 22 (1 open – Merchants)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 21 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 20 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 18 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 16 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 15 (1 open – Nuclear companies of Russia)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 14 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 13 (1 open – Hillary Clinton controversies)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 12 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 11 (1 open – Linguists of Coptic)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 9 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 8 (1 open – Blue-eyed soul singers)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 7 (13 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 5 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 November 1 (1 open – Public domain images inelgible for copyright in the US but not in their source countries)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 30 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 27 (1 open – Unassessed-Class articles)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 25 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 24 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 19 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 18 (1 open – Descendants of Eber)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 17 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 16 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 15 (1 open) – Asian diaspora in France
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 14 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 13 (1 open – Mandarin-language categories)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 September 24 (1 open – European Parliament constituencies)
How to use CfD
Procedure
To list a category manually for deletion, merging or renaming, follow this process:
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Preliminary steps.
Determine whether the category needs deleting, merging, or renaming.
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Edit the category.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the category text of every category to be discussed. (The tags belong on the categories' main pages rather than their talk/discussion pages.)
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Create the CFD section.
Follow the instructions in the comments (visible during edit), to copy and paste the template shown. All categories are specified without the
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Once you have previewed your entry, please make sure to add your signature after your proposal. If nominating a list of entries as a batch mentioned after your rationale, it is somewhat neater to place these after the signature (rather than leave the signature dangling at the end of the list, apparently unrelated to your reasons).
Once you have submitted a category here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is supported, helpful administrators and editors will log the result and ensure that the change is implemented to all affected pages.
Also, consider adding to your watchlist any categories you nominate. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.
Twinkle
The use of Wikipedia:Twinkle greatly facilitates CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to "my preferences", the "Gadgets" tab, the "Browsing" section and check "Twinkle ...". Use the now-installed "XfD" (Nominate for deletion) tab while viewing the page to be deleted or renamed.
Users without accounts and users with new accounts
Users without accounts (unregistered users) may nominate and comment on proceedings, just as in Articles for Deletion (AfD).
Redirecting categories
It is our general policy to delete categories that do not have articles in them. (Rationale: Unlike articles, categories are mostly for internal use only. If they don't have any articles, they shouldn't have any links from any articles or any other categories, because they are not useful for navigation and sorting.)
However, some categories frequently have articles assigned to them accidentally, or are otherwise re-created over and over. But categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects: #REDIRECT[[target]]. (See Wikipedia:Redirect#category for the technical details.)
Instead, we use a form of "soft redirects" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets. Notice that it's not a redirect at all as a wiki page; it's bots that virtually make them redirects.
In particular, we set up category redirects at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up redirects from forms with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
You can see a list of redirected categories in Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Closing
When closing CfDs, document their results (e.g. with links to CfD page history) on the talk pages of the affected categories, if not deleted. If deleted, document the deletion decision in the deletion edit summary. See {{cfd top}}.
Special notes
When nominating a category, it's helpful to add a notice on the talk page of the most-closely related article. Doing so would not only extend an additional courtesy, but possibly also bring in editors who know more about the subject at hand. You can use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Categories that should exist but are missing articles or subcategories should be added to Category:Underpopulated categories using {{Popcat}}.
If a category is only used as generated by a template (e.g. Category:Foo Stubs to correspond with Template:Foo-stub), and that template is deleted by a regular WP:TFD process, then the category can be deleted as well as long as it was nominated along with the template, or mentioned early in the discussion.
Speedy renaming and merging
Categories may be listed for speedy renaming or speedy merging if they meet one or more of the criteria specified below. They must be tagged with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal. A request may be processed 48 hours after it was listed if there are no objections. This delay allows other editors to review the request to ensure that it meets the criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", categories that have been empty for four days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}, and no delay is required to process these. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed, after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, they need to submit the request as a regular CfD in accordance with the instructions here.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C1. Unpopulated categories
- That have been unpopulated for at least four days. This does not apply to disambiguation categories, category redirects, featured topics categories, categories under discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion (or other such discussions), or project categories that by their nature may become empty on occasion (e.g. Category:Wikipedians looking for help). Place {{Empty category}} at the top of the page to prevent such categories from being deleted.
- Tag category with {{Db-c1}}.
C2. Renaming or merging
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- C2A. Typographic and spelling fixes.
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
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- C2B. Enforcing established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices.
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
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- C2C. Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names.
- This should only be used where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should only be applied when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
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- C2D. Facilitating concordance between a particular category's name and a related article's name.
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous article (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related article's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous, and uncontroversial – either because of longstanding stability at that particular name or immediately following a page move discussion which had explicit consensus to rename. If the page names are controversial or ambiguous in any way, then this criterion does not apply.
- This criterion also does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or if there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages which resulted in a no consensus result.
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- C2E. Author request.
- This criterion only applies if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within 28 days of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
- For C2A to C2E, tag category with {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}} and list on WP:CFDS. Administrators may implement C2E cases without delay.
For any categories that are not speedy candidates, use Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here,
- And no objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:{old name here}]] to [[:Category:{new name here}]] – {reason for rename here} ~~~~
This will sign and datestamp an entry automatically.
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 19:02, 11 December 2015 (UTC). Currently, there are 41 open requests (. )
Current nominations
- Category:Afghan women musicians to Category:Afghan female musicians - C2C; established WP:NC in this tree is "female" rather than "women" (and don't get me started on the seven or eight categories I just had to categoryredirect where the same editor created "women" categories for countries that already had "female" categories.) Note that if anybody wants to object on the grounds that it should be "women" instead, that will require a massive batch nom on Category:Female musicians and several dozen established subcategories which are at "female" — there's no legitimate case that these should be alone in standing at "women". Bearcat (talk) 01:00, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Danish women musicians to Category:Danish female musicians
- Category:Greek women musicians to Category:Greek female musicians
- Category:Iranian women musicians to Category:Iranian female musicians
- Category:New Zealand women musicians to Category:New Zealand female musicians
- Category:Ugandan women musicians to Category:Ugandan female musicians
- Category:Vietnamese women musicians to Category:Vietnamese female musicians
Opposed nominations
- Category:Sheffield Council elections to Category:Sheffield City Council elections – WP:C2D per Sheffield City Council elections. Number 57 21:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- But the category contains Municipal elections as well as City Council elections. are you ignoring this or are you proposing to split the category. This probably applies to others in this raft of changes as well. Keith D (talk) 23:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Keith D: The council was renamed in 1973, so the category name should reflect the current name. It's the same as Category:West Lancashire Borough Council elections, (or at another level Category:Elections in Myanmar) where the current name is used for the category. Category:Preston City Council elections is an example where the council name has changed twice. Number 57 23:20, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- Rather than rename the category it is probably better to restore the top level summary article back to where it was. Rather than mentioning the council type and just use the "<place> council elections" to avoid the problems which are confusing and clearly wrong for all of the articles in the set, thus the Preston one would be just "Preston council elections". This as was originally set up covers both City Council elections and Municipal Borough elections. Keith D (talk) 18:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- I completely disagree; the article names are appropriately named, and were renamed a while ago in order to better reflect their content ("Footown local elections" is not an accurate description of the article contents as the articles are specifically about the district council elections and do not cover other forms of local elections in the area - e.g. county or parish councils). There is no need to rename them to account for past names of the councils (just as we wouldn't rename Elections in Myanmar to ensure the title covered the period when the country was called Burma). Number 57 23:24, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- Rather than rename the category it is probably better to restore the top level summary article back to where it was. Rather than mentioning the council type and just use the "<place> council elections" to avoid the problems which are confusing and clearly wrong for all of the articles in the set, thus the Preston one would be just "Preston council elections". This as was originally set up covers both City Council elections and Municipal Borough elections. Keith D (talk) 18:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Keith D: The council was renamed in 1973, so the category name should reflect the current name. It's the same as Category:West Lancashire Borough Council elections, (or at another level Category:Elections in Myanmar) where the current name is used for the category. Category:Preston City Council elections is an example where the council name has changed twice. Number 57 23:20, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- But the category contains Municipal elections as well as City Council elections. are you ignoring this or are you proposing to split the category. This probably applies to others in this raft of changes as well. Keith D (talk) 23:14, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Wolverhampton Council elections to Category:Wolverhampton City Council elections – WP:C2D per Wolverhampton City Council elections. Number 57 21:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- None currently
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Academic pressure in East Asian cultures to Category:Academic pressure in East, South and Southeast Asian cultures – {The use of the word East Asian only is incorrect because the pages listed in this category such as Tiger mother, Study mama, Cram school, I Not Stupid and Rote learning for example, relate to concepts that are also and sometimes only found in South Asia and Southeast Asia. } 137.147.55.166 (talk) 02:24, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as this does not meet any of the above criteria; take it to a full CFD discussion. – Fayenatic London 07:57, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion by proposer. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:30, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy as this does not meet any of the above criteria; take it to a full CFD discussion. – Fayenatic London 07:57, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Luxembourgish people to Category:Luxembourgian people – Undo out-of-process category move by User:Kaihsu that broke consistency. SFB 15:52, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Luxembourgish sportspeople to Category:Luxembourgian sportspeople
- @Sillyfolkboy: He has moved many other categories in the same way, see there. Armbrust The Homunculus 16:05, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Luxembourgish sportspeople to Category:Luxembourgian sportspeople
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- Sorry if I missed something. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Luxembourg#Spelling_and_usage: “'Luxembourg' is to be used for the adjective of Luxembourg (e.g. Luxembourg elections, Luxembourg government). 'Luxembourgian' has unfortunately become widely used on Wikipedia, however this is incorrect and should be changed when encountered. 'Luxembourgish' is the name of the language, whilst 'Luxembourger' is the demonym.” – Kaihsu (talk) 17:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Kaihsu: Can you start a full nomination of Category:Luxembourgian people on that basis? As there are so many categories to align, this is best done through a group discussion then let a bot make the changes if required. SFB 18:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- I left a note at Category talk:Luxembourgish people, but I would rather someone else formally nominate the whole bunch of categories for moving. – Kaihsu (talk) 17:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Kaihsu: If you go to your preferences and enable Twinkle in "Browsing" then you'll get the option to nominate the rename through the "CFD" Twinkle drop down. The tool makes it quite simple to do. I don't feel confident to advocate the request on your behalf, as I do not agree with it, largely on the basis that it conflates ethnicity with a legal nationality. SFB 20:16, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- I left a note at Category talk:Luxembourgish people, but I would rather someone else formally nominate the whole bunch of categories for moving. – Kaihsu (talk) 17:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- A similar rename was proposed in 2012, but the CFD closed as "no consensus". Based on that, I'm going to reverse these category moves. However, this is not to say that a new proposal to rename would not be successful. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Kaihsu: Can you start a full nomination of Category:Luxembourgian people on that basis? As there are so many categories to align, this is best done through a group discussion then let a bot make the changes if required. SFB 18:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Sillyfolkboy: Thanks for the tip. It is good to distinguish citizenship and ethnicity, but that does not justify making up the new word ‘Luxembourgian’. – Kaihsu (talk) 04:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's a good argument for a CFD discussion and you might get a consensus around that view. Since we had a previous discussion and there was no consensus, we stick with the status quo until there is a consensus to change it. The best way to establish what the consensus is would be to start a CFD, providing the evidence of WP consensus (eg, the wikiproject guidelines) and usage outside WP that you might have access to. BTW, I don't think anyone on WP made up the term "Luxembourgian"—a casual search of old books has the word turning up with surprising frequency in reference to the people of Luxembourg. Good Ol’factory (talk)
- A full discussion has been started here to rename Category:Luxembourgian people to Category:Luxembourgish people. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:55, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry if I missed something. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Luxembourg#Spelling_and_usage: “'Luxembourg' is to be used for the adjective of Luxembourg (e.g. Luxembourg elections, Luxembourg government). 'Luxembourgian' has unfortunately become widely used on Wikipedia, however this is incorrect and should be changed when encountered. 'Luxembourgish' is the name of the language, whilst 'Luxembourger' is the demonym.” – Kaihsu (talk) 17:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Mandarin-language films to Category:Mandarin Chinese-language films C2D. — ξxplicit 19:14, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Mandarin-language singers to Category:Mandarin Chinese-language singers
- Category:Mandarin-language singers of South Korea to Category:Mandarin Chinese-language singers of South Korea
- Category:Mandarin-language singers of China to Category:Mandarin Chinese-language singers of China
- Category:Mandarin-language television stations to Category:Mandarin Chinese-language television stations
- Category:Mandarin songs to Category:Mandarin Chinese-language songs (also C2C)
- Inclined to oppose the above group: @Explicit: it seems a strange result to rename "Mandarin-language" categories to "Mandarin Chinese-language" while allowing "Cantonese-language" below. Although your proposals matches the names of the lead articles "Mandarin Chinese" and "Cantonese", "Mandarin Chinese" is disambiguation whereas "Mandarin-language" is already unambiguous. – Fayenatic London 15:54, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've taken the categories to a full discussion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 13#Mandarin-language categories. — ξxplicit 04:40, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Inclined to oppose the above group: @Explicit: it seems a strange result to rename "Mandarin-language" categories to "Mandarin Chinese-language" while allowing "Cantonese-language" below. Although your proposals matches the names of the lead articles "Mandarin Chinese" and "Cantonese", "Mandarin Chinese" is disambiguation whereas "Mandarin-language" is already unambiguous. – Fayenatic London 15:54, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Ready for deletion
Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.
Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.
Categories possibly emptied out of process
Note. Categories listed here will be automatically moved to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion after 96 hours.
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