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Categories for discussion (CfD) is where the renaming, merging or deletion of categories – i.e. pages in the Category namespace – is discussed and action decided. Stub types templates are also discussed here.
Categories are used to organize pages and aid the browsing of related articles. For instructions as to how to use this page, perform cleanup maintenance or request speedy deletions or renamings, see "How to use CfD" below. The policies meant to guide category renaming may be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories).
Unless a change to a category is non-controversial – e.g. prompted by vandalism or duplication – please do not amend or remove the category from pages before a decision has been made.
Categories that have been listed for more than seven days are eligible for deletion, renaming or merging when a rough consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to the nomination have been raised.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, it is usually helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Contents
- 1 Scope
- 2 Current discussions
- 3 How to use CfD
- 4 Categories possibly emptied out of process
Scope
CfD is only intended for discussions where an editor already has a clear action proposal in mind. For general brainstorming on how to improve the category system, good places for discussion include Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and the talk pages of any WikiProjects relevant to the content covered by the categories in question.
Current discussions
Discussions awaiting closure
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 March 2
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 March 1
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 29
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 28
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 27
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 26 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 25 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 24 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 23 (1 open - United States church state separation case law)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 22 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 21 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 20 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 19 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 18 (1 open - Concept automobiles)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 17 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 16 (2 open - Theatres in the Palestinian National Authority and Railway stations located underground)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 15 (1 open - Socialist Republic of Macedonia)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 14 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 13 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 12 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 11 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 10 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 9 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 8 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 7 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 6 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 5 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 4 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 3 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 2 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 1 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 31 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 29 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 28 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 27 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 26 (1 open – Semitic peoples)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 25 (1 open – Litigation by company)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 24 (1 open – People associated with cathedrals)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 23 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 21 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 20 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 18 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 17 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 16 (1 open – People from the City of Fairfield)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 15 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 14 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 13 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 11 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 10 (1 open – Small Carnolian categories)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 9 (1 open – Cultural depictions)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 7 (1 open – Saints of Byzantine Greece)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 5 (1 open – Simplified Chinese-language text)
How to use CfD
Procedure
To list a category manually for deletion, merging or renaming, follow this process:
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Preliminary steps.
Determine whether the category needs deleting, merging, or renaming.
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Edit the category.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the category text of every category to be discussed. (The tags belong on the categories' main pages rather than their talk/discussion pages.)
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Create the CFD section.
Follow the instructions in the comments (visible during edit), to copy and paste the template shown. All categories are specified without the
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Once you have previewed your entry, please make sure to add your signature after your proposal. If nominating a list of entries as a batch mentioned after your rationale, it is somewhat neater to place these after the signature (rather than leave the signature dangling at the end of the list, apparently unrelated to your reasons).
Once you have submitted a category here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is supported, helpful administrators and editors will log the result and ensure that the change is implemented to all affected pages.
Also, consider adding to your watchlist any categories you nominate. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.
Twinkle
The use of Wikipedia:Twinkle greatly facilitates CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to "my preferences", the "Gadgets" tab, the "Browsing" section and check "Twinkle ...". Use the now-installed "XfD" (Nominate for deletion) tab while viewing the page to be deleted or renamed.
Users without accounts and users with new accounts
Users without accounts (unregistered users) may nominate and comment on proceedings, just as in Articles for Deletion (AfD).
Redirecting categories
It is our general policy to delete categories that do not have articles in them. (Rationale: Unlike articles, categories are mostly for internal use only. If they don't have any articles, they shouldn't have any links from any articles or any other categories, because they are not useful for navigation and sorting.)
However, some categories frequently have articles assigned to them accidentally, or are otherwise re-created over and over. But categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects: #REDIRECT[[target]]. (See Wikipedia:Redirect#category for the technical details.)
Instead, we use a form of "soft redirects" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets. Notice that it's not a redirect at all as a wiki page; it's bots that virtually make them redirects.
In particular, we set up category redirects at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up redirects from forms with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
You can see a list of redirected categories in Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Closing
When closing CfDs, document their results (e.g. with links to CfD page history) on the talk pages of the affected categories, if not deleted. If deleted, document the deletion decision in the deletion edit summary. See {{cfd top}}.
Special notes
When nominating a category, it's helpful to add a notice on the talk page of the most-closely related article. Doing so would not only extend an additional courtesy, but possibly also bring in editors who know more about the subject at hand. You can use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
If a category is only used as generated by a template (e.g. Category:Foo Stubs to correspond with Template:Foo-stub), and that template is deleted by a regular WP:TFD process, then the category can be deleted as well as long as it was nominated along with the template, or mentioned early in the discussion. == Speedy renaming and merging ==
Categories may be listed for speedy renaming or speedy merging if they meet one or more of the criteria specified below. They must be tagged with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal. A request may be processed 48 hours after it was listed if there are no objections. This delay allows other editors to review the request to ensure that it meets the criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", categories that have been empty for four days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
, and no delay is required to process these. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed, after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to continue the process, they need to submit the request as a regular CfD in accordance with the instructions here.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C1. Unpopulated categories
- That have been unpopulated for at least four days. This does not apply to disambiguation categories, category redirects, featured topics categories, categories under discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion (or other such discussions), or project categories that by their nature may become empty on occasion (e.g. Category:Wikipedians looking for help). Place {{Empty category}} at the top of the page to prevent such categories from being deleted.
- Tag category with {{Db-c1}}.
C2. Renaming or merging
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- C2A. Typographic and spelling fixes.
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
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- C2B. Enforcing established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices.
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
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- C2C. Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names.
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
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- C2D. Facilitating concordance between a particular category's name and a related article's name.
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous article (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related article's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous, and uncontroversial – either because of longstanding stability at that particular name or immediately following a page move discussion that had explicit consensus to rename. If the page names are controversial or ambiguous in any way, then this criterion does not apply.
- This criterion also does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or if there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result.
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- C2E. Author request.
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within 28 days of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
- For C2A to C2E, tag category with {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}} and list on WP:CFDS. Administrators may implement C2E cases without delay.
For any categories that are not speedy candidates, use Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here,
- And no objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:{old name here}]] to [[:Category:{new name here}]] – {reason for rename here} ~~~~
This will sign and datestamp an entry automatically.
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 13:23, 8 March 2016 (UTC). Currently, there are 171 open requests (. )
Current nominations
- Category:Music (by genre and nationality) to Category:Music by genre and nationality – remove the brackets as they are against the syntax rules and not needed. CN1 (talk) 10:15, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Airport operators in Italy to Category:Airport operators of Italy – C2D per other entry in the parent Cat (Airport operators of XYZ). Matthew_hk tc 09:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Highlands and Islands Airports Limited to Category:Highlands and Islands Airports – C2D per Highlands and Islands Airports Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:47, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Sony Ericsson to Category:Sony Mobile – C2D per Sony Mobile Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:43, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Rover to Category:Rover Company – C2D per Rover Company Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:41, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:J. C. Bamford to Category:JCB (company) – C2D per JCB (company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Jaguar to Category:Jaguar Cars – C2D per Jaguar Cars Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Canonical Ltd. to Category:Canonical (company) – C2D per Canonical (company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:35, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Shin Corporation to Category:Intouch Holdings – C2D per Intouch Holdings Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Creative Technology to Category:Creative Technology Limited – C2D per Creative Technology Limited. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Tide ASA to Category:Tide (transportation company) – C2D per Tide (transportation company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Det Norske Veritas to Category:DNV GL – C2D per DNV GL Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:57, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:ZM to Category:ZM (New Zealand) – C2D per ZM (New Zealand). Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:31, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Seiko players to Category:Seiko SA players – per Seiko SA. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:23, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Inazuma Eleven to Category:Inazuma Eleven (series) – C2D per Inazuma Eleven (series). Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Level-5 to Category:Level-5 (company) –C2D per Level-5 (company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:19, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Chubu Electric Power Company to Category:Chubu Electric Power – C2D per Chubu Electric Power Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:17, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:ENRC to Category:Eurasian Natural Resources Corporation – C2D per Eurasian Natural Resources Corporation Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:14, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Piaggio Aero Industries to Category:Piaggio Aerospace – C2D per Piaggio Aerospace Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:39, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Ferrovie dello Stato to Category:Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane – C2D per Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:37, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Bertone to Category:Gruppo Bertone – C2D per Gruppo Bertone. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:32, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Bandini to Category:Bandini Automobili – C2D per Bandini Automobili. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:31, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Suzlon Energy to Category:Suzlon – C2D per Suzlon. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Steel Authority of India Limited to Category:Steel Authority of India – C2D per Steel Authority of India. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Indian Express Group to Category:Indian Express Limited – C2D per Indian Express Limited. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:22, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Max Braun to Category:Braun (company) – C2D per Braun (company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:18, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Dassault to Category:Dassault Group – C2D per Dassault Group. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Lagardère to Category:Lagardère Group – C2D per Lagardère Group Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:11, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Chemins de Fer du Nord to Category:French Northern Railway – C2D per French Northern Railway Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Chemins de Fer de l'État to Category:Chemins de fer de l'État – C2A/C2D per Chemins de fer de l'État. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Casino Group to Category:Groupe Casino – C2D per Groupe Casino. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:06, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Helsingin Energia to Category:Helen Oy – C2D per Helen Oy. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:04, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
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- Oppose. "Oy" is a company form and shall not be used in article (or category) names; see WP:NCCORP. --Gwafton (talk) 23:15, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Gwafton: It is being used in the article name of Helen Oy. These company forms may be used when disambiguation is needed. This is such a case, since "Helen" is ambiguous. What would be the rationale for using the former name of a presently existing company? Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:27, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Oy" is a company form and shall not be used in article (or category) names; see WP:NCCORP. --Gwafton (talk) 23:15, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Xiaomi Tech to Category:Xiaomi – C2D per Xiaomi Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:01, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:The Peninsula Hotel Group to Category:The Peninsula Hotels – C2D per The Peninsula Hotels. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Radio Television Hong Kong to Category:RTHK – C2D per RTHK. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:KMB to Category:Kowloon Motor Bus – C2D per Kowloon Motor Bus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:KCR to Category:Kowloon–Canton Railway – C2D per Kowloon–Canton Railway. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:KCRC to Category:Kowloon–Canton Railway Corporation – C2D per Kowloon–Canton Railway Corporation Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Chang'an Automobile Group to Category:Changan Automobile – C2D per Changan Automobile Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:16, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Entertainment Shanghai Limited to Category:Tangren Media – C2D per Tangren Media. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:14, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Transfield Services to Category:Broadspectrum – C2D per Broadspectrum Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Nbn to Category:Nbn (telecommunications company) – C2D per Nbn (telecommunications company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:01, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:M2 Telecommunications to Category:M2 Group – C2D per M2 Group Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:59, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Fosters Group to Category:Foster's Group – C2A/C2D per Foster's Group Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:58, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Clarín group to Category:Clarín Group – C2A/C2D per Clarín Group Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Bunge y Born to Category:Bunge & Born – C2D per Bunge & Born Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Lotte to Category:Lotte (conglomerate) (over redirect) – C2D per Lotte (conglomerate) (reversing an out-of-process move) Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Nexon Korea Corporation to Category:Nexon – C2D per Nexon Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:51, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:S.M. Entertainment Subsidiaries to Category:S.M. Entertainment subsidiaries – C2A. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:50, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:NHN Corporation to Category:Naver Corporation – C2D per Naver Corporation. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:National Register of Historic Vessels to Category:National Historic Ships – C2D: per National Historic Ships Tim! (talk) 19:26, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:United Kingdom Parliament-related lists to Category:Parliament of the United Kingdom-related lists – C2C: per parent Category:Parliament of the United Kingdom Tim! (talk) 19:16, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Educational organizations in Germany to Category:Educational organisations in Germany – C2C: per Category:Organisations based in Germany by subject Tim! (talk) 18:56, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Communications and media organizations based in Germany to Category:Communications and media organisations based in Germany
- Category:Transport organizations based in Germany to Category:Transport organisations based in Germany
- Category:Medical and health organizations based in Germany to Category:Medical and health organisations based in Germany
- Category:Cultural organizations in Germany to Category:Cultural organisations in Germany
- Category:Ethnic organizations based in Germany to Category:Ethnic organisations based in Germany
- Category:Jewish organizations based in Germany to Category:Jewish organisations based in Germany
- Category:Cities and towns in Mokokchung District to Category:Cities and towns in Mokokchung district – C2C per Category:Cities and towns in India by district and Category:Mokokchung district. Nocowardsoulismine (talk) 15:49, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Former subsidiaries of The Walt Disney Company to Category:Former The Walt Disney Company subsidiaries – C2C: per the convention in Category:Former corporate subsidiaries by company. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:57, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose as clunky. Moving back to the old name which omitted "The" it would be better. @Jedi94: on what grounds did you move it last year from Category:Former Walt Disney Company subsidiaries? – Fayenatic London 15:13, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Labor economics to Category:Labour economics – C2D. Article is Labour economics AusLondonder (talk) 09:00, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Unfree labor to Category:Unfree labour – C2D. Article is Unfree labour AusLondonder (talk) 07:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Labor movement to Category:Labour movement – C2D. Article is Labour movement AusLondonder (talk) 07:50, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Templates for Los Angeles County Metro lines to Category:Los Angeles County Metro lines templates – C2B/C2C per Category:Los Angeles County Metro templates Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Templates for New Jersey Transit lines to Category:New Jersey Transit lines templates – C2B/C2C per Category:New Jersey Transit templates. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Templates for PAT lines to Category:Port Authority of Allegheny County lines templates – C2B/C2C per Category:Port Authority of Allegheny County templates Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Templates for LIRR lines to Category:Long Island Rail Road lines templates – C2B/C2C per Category:Long Island Rail Road templates. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Templates for St. Louis MetroLink to Category:St. Louis MetroLink templates – C2C Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:51, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Templates for SEPTA lines to Category:SEPTA lines templates – C2C. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:49, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:NFTA templates to Category:Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority templates – C2B per Category:Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority/Niagara Frontier Transportation Authority Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:UPRR templates to Category:Union Pacific Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Union Pacific Railroad/Union Pacific Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Santa Fe templates to Category:Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway templates – C2B per Category:Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway/Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Denver Regional Transportation District templates to Category:Regional Transportation District templates – C2B per Category:Regional Transportation District/Regional Transportation District. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:44, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:PRR templates to Category:Pennsylvania Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Pennsylvania Railroad/Pennsylvania Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Illinois Central templates to Category:Illinois Central Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Illinois Central Railroad/Illinois Central Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Erie succession templates to Category:Erie Railroad succession templates – C2B per Category:Erie Railroad/Erie Railroad Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:40, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:DL&W templates to Category:Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad/Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:39, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:D&RGW templates to Category:Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad/Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:B&O templates to Category:Baltimore and Ohio Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Baltimore and Ohio Railroad/Baltimore and Ohio Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:37, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:CB&Q templates to Category:Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad templates – C2B per Category:Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad/Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Rutland Railway to Category:Rutland Railroad (over redirect) – C2D per Rutland Railroad. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Spin-offs of the Rutland Railway to Category:Spin-offs of the Rutland Railroad
- Category:Predecessors of the Rutland Railway to Category:Predecessors of the Rutland Railroad
- Category:Companies operating former Rutland Railway lines to Category:Companies operating former Rutland Railroad lines
- Category:Former railway companies of Switzerland to Category:Defunct railway companies of Switzerland – C2C per Category:Defunct railway companies. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:27, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:East African Railways to Category:East African Railways and Harbours Corporation – C2D per East African Railways and Harbours Corporation. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:23, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Yellow Cab to Category:Yellow Cab Company – C2D per Yellow Cab Company Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:16, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Imperial Tobacco to Category:Imperial Brands – C2D per Imperial Brands Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:12, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Izukyu to Category:Izukyū Corporation – C2D per Izukyū Corporation Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Grupo Pão de Açúcar to Category:GPA (company) – C2D per GPA (company) Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:04, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Samsung C&T to Category:Samsung C&T Corporation (over redirect) – C2D per Samsung C&T Corporation Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Sisu to Category:Sisu Auto – C2D per Sisu Auto. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:00, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Metropolitan Life Insurance Company to Category:MetLife – C2D per MetLife Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:57, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide to Category:Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide – C2A/C2D per Starwood Hotels and Resorts Worldwide. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:55, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Ritz-Carlton to Category:The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company – C2D per The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:54, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Gaylord Entertainment Company to Category:Ryman Hospitality Properties – C2D per Ryman Hospitality Properties Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:51, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Biltmore Hotels to Category:Bowman-Biltmore Hotels – C2D per Bowman-Biltmore Hotels Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:50, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Taj Hotels, Resorts and Palaces to Category:Taj Hotels Resorts and Palaces – C2A/C2D per Taj Hotels Resorts and Palaces Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:48, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Shangri-La Hotels to Category:Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts – C2D per Shangri-La Hotels and Resorts Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Intercontinental Hotels Group to Category:InterContinental Hotels Group – C2A/C2D per InterContinental Hotels Group Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:46, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Accor to Category:AccorHotels – C2D per AccorHotels Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:44, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:BlackBerry (company) to Category:BlackBerry Limited – C2D per BlackBerry Limited Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:42, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Dr Pepper Snapple to Category:Dr Pepper Snapple Group – C2D per Dr Pepper Snapple Group Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:40, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish and Southern Energy to Category:SSE plc – C2D per SSE plc Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:GDF Suez to Category:Engie – C2D (corporate name changed last year) Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Erste Bank Open to Category:Vienna Open – C2D per Vienna Open Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:30, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Sparebank 1 to Category:SpareBank 1 – C2A/C2D per SpareBank 1 Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:29, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:CBA to Category:Commonwealth Bank – C2D per Commonwealth Bank Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:13, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:News Corporation former subsidiaries to Category:Former News Corporation subsidiaries – C2C per format of subcategories of Category:Former corporate subsidiaries by company Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment @Good Olfactory: Shouldn't Category:Whitbread former divisions and subsidiaries also be renamed? Armbrust The Homunculus 13:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Possibly, though it's complicated by the fact that another parent of it is Category:Whitbread divisions and subsidiaries. We could probably move the "former" speedily, though. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment @Good Olfactory: Shouldn't Category:Whitbread former divisions and subsidiaries also be renamed? Armbrust The Homunculus 13:52, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Subsaharan people to Category:Sub-Saharan people – C2A per Category:Sub-Saharan Africa/Sub-Saharan Africa ("Sub-Saharan African people" might be better; that may be beyond the scope of speedy) Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:33, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Aquatic competitions in Spain to Category:International aquatics competitions hosted by Spain per C2C, to be a subcategory of the new Category:International aquatics competitions by host Hugo999 (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose at least speedy. Goes against the convention of Category:Sports competitions in Spain. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:46, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:People of the Urabi Revolt to Category:People of the ‘Urabi Revolt – C2C per Category:‘Urabi Revolt and C2D per ‘Urabi Revolt. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Valenzuela, Metro Manila – C2D per Valenzuela, Metro Manila. RioHondo (talk) 14:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Buildings and structures in Valenzuela, Metro Manila –
- Category:Education in Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Education in Valenzuela, Metro Manila
- Category:Schools in Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Schools in Valenzuela, Metro Manila
- Category:Companies based in Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Companies based in Valenzuela, Metro Manila
- Category:People from Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:People from Valenzuela, Metro Manila
- Category:Mayors of Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Mayors of Valenzuela, Metro Manila
- Category:Politics of Valenzuela, Philippines to Category:Politics of Valenzuela, Metro Manila
- Category:Recipients of the Order of Gold Star to Category:Recipients of the Order of Gold Star (Ukraine) – C2B: ambiguous, there are several Orders of the Gold(en) Star PanchoS (talk) 01:28, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: shouldn't there be a definite article? "Category:Recipients of the Order of the Gold Star (Ukraine)". Alternatively, it could be renamed "Category:Recipients of the Gold Star Order (Ukraine)". There seems to be no main article. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:27, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- The Ukrainian language does not have articles such as "the" or "a", so it may be translated without the "the" in many sources. I agree that if we had a main article, though, it would probably include a "the". Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:34, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: shouldn't there be a definite article? "Category:Recipients of the Order of the Gold Star (Ukraine)". Alternatively, it could be renamed "Category:Recipients of the Gold Star Order (Ukraine)". There seems to be no main article. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:27, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:United Kingdom European Union membership referendum to Category:United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016 – C2D per United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016 Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Reverted undiscussed move. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:33, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- It was changed back to include the year (by another user). Including the year is consistent with the relevant naming guideline in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (government and legislation). Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Reverted undiscussed move. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:33, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
Opposed nominations
- Category:Kosovar Turks to Category:Kosovo Turks – C2D. Zoupan 21:28, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for Category:Kosovar Turks only. Only recently moved and without discussion, therefore C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- It was bold, see the talk page, hits favour the new name.--Zoupan 18:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Zoupan:, it may have been a good bold move, but it doesn't matter how good any of us thinks the move was -- recent bold moves are ineligible for C2D. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:14, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- It was bold, see the talk page, hits favour the new name.--Zoupan 18:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for Category:Kosovar Turks only. Only recently moved and without discussion, therefore C2D doesn't apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 17:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Plymouth vehicles to Category:Plymouth (automobile) vehicles – C2B: per Plymouth (automobile)/Category:Plymouth (automobile). Armbrust The Homunculus 09:31, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- None currently
Moved to full discussion
- Category:BPHC to Category:Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani – Hyderabad – C2D: per Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani – Hyderabad. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:02, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose, article needs to be moved to Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani – Hyderabad Campus, after which category will no longer be eligible for speedy move unless RM is used. – Fayenatic London 21:56, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:23, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Rareware to Category:Rare (company) – C2D: per Rare (company). Recently renamed after this RM. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:11, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Rareware characters to Category:Rare (company) characters
- Category:Rareware games to Category:Rare (company) games
- Oppose. @Armbrust: I think that the natural disambiguation of the company's former branding is preferable to a parenthesised disambiguator. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:45, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support. The company was and is much better known as "Rare" than "Rareware" so the latter would not be a natural disambiguation. Rename to match main article. czar 14:01, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support: Rare is its common name. Rareware is a name that was used by the company like a decade ago, which is obviously outdated. AdrianGamer (talk) 11:28, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Support: 1. per C2D. 2. per common name. 3. The company has never been officially named Rareware, it has always been Rare Ltd since incorporation. Rareware was simply a branding used for a short period of time on box covers, and throughout that period the company's name was still Rare Ltd. (source). --The1337gamer (talk) 20:17, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:23, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Five Towns, New York to Category:Five Towns – C2D: per Five Towns. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:45, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose. The new title is ambiguous. It is surprising that the head article is not disambiguated, but regardless of that choice, this ambiguous categ name would lead to miscategorisation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:02, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:23, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Real Monarchs SLC players to Category:Real Monarchs players – C2D per Real Monarchs. — Michael (talk) 23:52, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Head article moved from Real Monarchs SLC to Real Monarchs on 21 August 2015 [1]. No sign of any previous moves since page creation on 11 September 2014 [2].
I don't think that 5 months counts as "long term stability", and "Real Monarchs" sounds ambiguous. This needs a full discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:08, 28 January 2016 (UTC)- Moved to full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:23, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Head article moved from Real Monarchs SLC to Real Monarchs on 21 August 2015 [1]. No sign of any previous moves since page creation on 11 September 2014 [2].
- merge Category:Airlines of Cote D'Ivoire to Category:Airlines of Ivory Coast – C2C. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:24, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Country data templates of Côte d'Ivoire to Category:Country data templates of Ivory Coast
- Category:Côte d'Ivoire national handball team templates to Category:Ivory Coast national handball team templates
- Category:Côte d'Ivoire multi-sport events infobox templates to Category:Ivory Coast multi-sport events infobox templates
- Category:Research institutes in Côte d'Ivoire to Category:Research institutes in Ivory Coast
- Oppose Correct country name is Côte d'Ivoire IrritatedIvoirian (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- I realise that "Côte d'Ivoire" is the official name of the country, but the article (and hence the categories) on the English WP has been Ivory Coast since 2012 as a result of this discussion. See Category:Ivory Coast and its subcategories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion by proposer. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:23, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- I realise that "Côte d'Ivoire" is the official name of the country, but the article (and hence the categories) on the English WP has been Ivory Coast since 2012 as a result of this discussion. See Category:Ivory Coast and its subcategories. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Correct country name is Côte d'Ivoire IrritatedIvoirian (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Late Antiquity and Medieval sites in Kosovo to Category:Historic sites in Kosovo – C2C: per Category:Historic sites by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:28, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Oppose speedy due conflict with C2D (the main article of the category is Late Antiquity and Medieval sites in Kosovo). Armbrust The Homunculus 10:03, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Now at full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:47, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Mitsubishi Motors concepts to Category:Mitsubishi Motors concept vehicles – C2C: per the convention in Category:Concept automobiles. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Jeep concept automobiles to Category:Jeep concept vehicles
- Category:GM Korea concept automobiles to Category:GM Korea concept vehicles
- Category:General Motors concept automobiles to Category:General Motors concept vehicles
- Hang on. Are any of the contents not cars (automobiles)? The main article is concept car and has been for years, after a brief undiscussed move to concept vehicle. If all the contents are cars, then I suggest putting these four on hold pending a full nomination of the top category and all the hierarchy. – Fayenatic London 13:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Good point by Fayenatic. But there is another separate issue: the head category is Category:Concept automobiles, and instead of trying to adopt that format per C2C, this nomination is trying to rename the pages away from that format. It seems that these categories could be standardised in at least 2 different directions, so a full discussion is required. I suggest a group nom with several pre-pack options, as I did a week ago with the subcats of broadcasting by country. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
- @BrownHairedGirl: The Category:Concept automobiles format couldn't be "adopt"ed per C2C, because most subcategories don't use that. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:40, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, my wording was clumsy. What I mean is that there is a prima facie C2C case for following the head category. As you note, that would fail on other grounds.
The point is that either way, there seems to be no speediable change available here. This needs a full discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:50, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, my wording was clumsy. What I mean is that there is a prima facie C2C case for following the head category. As you note, that would fail on other grounds.
- @BrownHairedGirl: The Category:Concept automobiles format couldn't be "adopt"ed per C2C, because most subcategories don't use that. Armbrust The Homunculus 10:40, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Good point by Fayenatic. But there is another separate issue: the head category is Category:Concept automobiles, and instead of trying to adopt that format per C2C, this nomination is trying to rename the pages away from that format. It seems that these categories could be standardised in at least 2 different directions, so a full discussion is required. I suggest a group nom with several pre-pack options, as I did a week ago with the subcats of broadcasting by country. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
- Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 18#Category:Concept automobiles. – Fayenatic London 21:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Hang on. Are any of the contents not cars (automobiles)? The main article is concept car and has been for years, after a brief undiscussed move to concept vehicle. If all the contents are cars, then I suggest putting these four on hold pending a full nomination of the top category and all the hierarchy. – Fayenatic London 13:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Kosovan dramatists and playwrights to Category:Kosovar dramatists and playwrights – C2C. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:33, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Kosovan essayists to Category:Kosovar essayists
- Category:Kosovan ethnographers to Category:Kosovar ethnographers:
- Oppose - Kosov(an) as per proper English. We have categories with both versions Kosovan and Kosovar as well, but Kosovan is more English native word. (I.e. Kosovan Passport, Kosovan parliamentary election, 2014, etc). It would be great if we move all categories "Kosovar..." -> "Kosovan...", not the other way around.--Mondiad (talk) 05:33, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- More and more, "Kosovar" is a reference to the ethnicity (ethnic Albanians), while "Kosovan" is the more inclusive term for the nationality. I'm not sure how well accepted the distinction is at this stage, but maybe it's time to again consider renaming Category:Kosovar people. At minimum, a good argument could be made that "Kosovar" is the more ambiguous option, in that it can refer to a nationality and an ethnicity. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Good Ol’factory+Mondiad: my only concern here is consistency, and I don't know much about the topic. You two both make a good case for a renaming in the other direction, which wouldn't be speediable ... so if I do a group nom of Kosovar→Kosovan people categories, and ping you both, would you be kind enough to expand at CFD on your explanations here? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:27, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Sure, just ping me after you do the nomination.--Mondiad (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- OK. I would be fine with this rename going through and then a larger nomination for all the Kosovar categories, but however you want to proceed is probably OK ... Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:38, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion by nominator. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:05, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Good Ol’factory+Mondiad: my only concern here is consistency, and I don't know much about the topic. You two both make a good case for a renaming in the other direction, which wouldn't be speediable ... so if I do a group nom of Kosovar→Kosovan people categories, and ping you both, would you be kind enough to expand at CFD on your explanations here? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:27, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- More and more, "Kosovar" is a reference to the ethnicity (ethnic Albanians), while "Kosovan" is the more inclusive term for the nationality. I'm not sure how well accepted the distinction is at this stage, but maybe it's time to again consider renaming Category:Kosovar people. At minimum, a good argument could be made that "Kosovar" is the more ambiguous option, in that it can refer to a nationality and an ethnicity. Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose - Kosov(an) as per proper English. We have categories with both versions Kosovan and Kosovar as well, but Kosovan is more English native word. (I.e. Kosovan Passport, Kosovan parliamentary election, 2014, etc). It would be great if we move all categories "Kosovar..." -> "Kosovan...", not the other way around.--Mondiad (talk) 05:33, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Theatres in the Palestinian National Authority to Category:Theatres in Palestine – C2C, child cat of Category:Tourist attractions in Palestine AusLondonder (talk) 11:43, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Category:Tourist attractions in Palestine is a subcategory of Category:Palestine (region). So both of these categories should be renamed to conform to that (and lso Palestine (region)). Armbrust The Homunculus 17:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I oppose that proposed rename. The category is in the category tree of Category:Tourism in the Palestinian territories as well so I see no reason or justification for a rename to Palestine (region). AusLondonder (talk) 18:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I have moved to full discussion. AusLondonder (talk) 18:41, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Category:Tourist attractions in Palestine is a subcategory of Category:Palestine (region). So both of these categories should be renamed to conform to that (and lso Palestine (region)). Armbrust The Homunculus 17:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:MediaCorp to Category:Mediacorp – C2D per Mediacorp. Was previously opposed here b/c the article was moved without discussion, but it appears to me to have been a non-controversial move with no objections Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Sorry, but C2D explicitly requires a discussion. An unopposed technical request is not a discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:18, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Unless someone can articulate a substantive (ie, nonprocedural) reason that the rename should be opposed, to insist on a full discussion pretty much flies in the face of WP:BURO. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'd like to agree Good Ol’factory, but WP:BURO has its limits, esp when it comes to consensus-forming processes. For example, there have been some recent big rows over the early closure of AFDs, and previous bustups over speedy actions which stretched or broke the criteria.
There may be a case for widening C2D, but until a change is agreed, this doesn't fit. A single categ is easy to list at a full CFD, using Twinkle, so it's not a huge burden. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)- If there's no substantive case to be made for why it should not be renamed, then moving it to a full discussion is a waste of time, whether that waste is small or large. This always happens on this page with users who seem to enjoy enforcing process over substance. And every time these types of discussions get moved, they end up being processed as nominated. I don't know of a single exception, and I doubt that this will be one either. (The waste or time comes not with the effort required to nominate it for a full discussion, but the loss of the advantage of the speedy process—the category will thus remain at a name that is different than its main article for at least a week, and possibly much longer, given the amount of time it takes for many CFD discussions to be closed.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion (under protest). Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:18, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- If there's no substantive case to be made for why it should not be renamed, then moving it to a full discussion is a waste of time, whether that waste is small or large. This always happens on this page with users who seem to enjoy enforcing process over substance. And every time these types of discussions get moved, they end up being processed as nominated. I don't know of a single exception, and I doubt that this will be one either. (The waste or time comes not with the effort required to nominate it for a full discussion, but the loss of the advantage of the speedy process—the category will thus remain at a name that is different than its main article for at least a week, and possibly much longer, given the amount of time it takes for many CFD discussions to be closed.) Good Ol’factory (talk) 05:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'd like to agree Good Ol’factory, but WP:BURO has its limits, esp when it comes to consensus-forming processes. For example, there have been some recent big rows over the early closure of AFDs, and previous bustups over speedy actions which stretched or broke the criteria.
- Unless someone can articulate a substantive (ie, nonprocedural) reason that the rename should be opposed, to insist on a full discussion pretty much flies in the face of WP:BURO. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy Sorry, but C2D explicitly requires a discussion. An unopposed technical request is not a discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:18, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
- Category:Plymouth, Devon to Category:Plymouth – C2D: To match main article DuncanHill (talk) 22:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose, categories need to be unambiguous unless there is a very definite primary topic. – Fayenatic London 23:33, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is that an actual policy? Wikipedia:Categorization says to follow standard naming conventions. Doesn't mention anything about raising the bar of primacy. Jolly Ω Janner 01:40, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Support Per C2D and WP:CAT AusLondonder (talk) 08:54, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Jolly Janner: Oppose speedy The current name of the category was chosen in this full discussion, which can't be overturned by a speedy nomination. Also as Category:Plymouth shows, it's extremely ambiguous. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is it really true that a speedy cannot overturn a discussion? The criteria on this page do not list it, but simply mention the article needs long standing notability, which Plymouth has. Jolly Ω Janner 10:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Common sense dictates that we can't speedy against the result of a discussion, unless some change in the situation would make it seem that many of the users in that discussion would have changed their minds. If the article had, at the time, been at Plymouth, Devon, then the article being renamed would be such a change. I don't see any relevant change related to this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:32, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, Od Mishehu. Discussion moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 February 3#Category:Plymouth, Devon. Jolly Ω Janner 12:12, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Common sense dictates that we can't speedy against the result of a discussion, unless some change in the situation would make it seem that many of the users in that discussion would have changed their minds. If the article had, at the time, been at Plymouth, Devon, then the article being renamed would be such a change. I don't see any relevant change related to this category. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:32, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is it really true that a speedy cannot overturn a discussion? The criteria on this page do not list it, but simply mention the article needs long standing notability, which Plymouth has. Jolly Ω Janner 10:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Is that an actual policy? Wikipedia:Categorization says to follow standard naming conventions. Doesn't mention anything about raising the bar of primacy. Jolly Ω Janner 01:40, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose, categories need to be unambiguous unless there is a very definite primary topic. – Fayenatic London 23:33, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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