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Contents
- 1 How to make friends in Wikipedia
- 2 Wiki Loves Folk
- 3 Estimate duration of edit
- 4 Wiki Loves Folk logo contest
- 5 A cycle in the category tree: Problem solving and Creativity
- 6 New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (December 2015)
- 7 Transwiki process for moving non-English content to a different Wikipedia?
- 8 The two categories People and Humans
- 9 GLAMing Madrid Challenge
How to make friends in Wikipedia
Is Wikipedia a place where you can meet new people and make friends? I tried to work and cooperate well with others, but I get treated negatively or underappreciated. Yes, Wikipedia is not a social network, but I hoped that Wikipedia is a welcoming community. Right now, disdain has been common, discouraging a newcomer's efforts to make friends here. Probably a successful Wiki-alike competitor would invite everyone alike... besides Wikia. --George Ho (talk) 03:12, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi George Ho.
I'm sorry that you're finding Wikipedia to be a negative experience. I too sometimes encounter editors who seem to treat me with disdain or even contempt; but that is, by far, a tiny exception. The vast majority of editors whom I've encountered have treated me with kindness and understanding, and have been very pleasant to work with.
I'm not sure if I would categorize Wikipedia as a place to make "friends" in a usual sense of the word, since editors rarely ever get to meet in person or even learn each other's real names; but there are several editors with whom I feel a positive connection.
Please feel free to message me at any time, on my talk page, or in any other appropriate forum. (If it's not on my talk page, please don't forget to ping me.)
Rich
Richard27182 (talk) 06:46, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hello George. I suspect the closest you can come to something like that on Wikipedia is to find a project group with a subject you like, then try working together on some activities. You'll at least have an area of common interest to share. Praemonitus (talk) 21:03, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- George, I'll agree with Praemonitus here. There's some fun in finding people with a common interest and working together. The problem is most of the time, people here on their own and take their editing too seriously. The other thing may be to go to a Wikipedia meetup and meet other people in real life. It's tough because it is the internet after all. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:17, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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- Another way is to join in or organise a local meetup. I know that most of my interactions with George are formal, responding to requests, and that is a lot of how we work here. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:34, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hi George Ho. There are some places on Wikipedia that are friendlier and we are continually looking to find ways to make it more so. One place that seems to be particularly good for newer editors is the Teahouse; it is a great place to start. I hope your experience gets better, it is such a worthy cause. LilaTretikov (WMF) (talk) 01:44, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- I've been a Wikipedian for ten years. It's no longer suitable for me. George Ho (talk) 01:47, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, I should have looked at your edits. Do you have suggestions on how to make this better? LilaTretikov (WMF) (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- I've been a Wikipedian for ten years. It's no longer suitable for me. George Ho (talk) 01:47, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think of Wikipedia itself as a place to "make friends". Wikipedia is not a social networking service. As others have indicated, on-wiki you eventually find editors that you admire and whose input you value but calling them "friends" is a bit of a stretch. That said, yes, it's possible to make friends as a Wikipedian! To do that it's best to meet people face-to-face. Found out what kind of meetings happen in your area. There could be Wikipedia meetups there. You could also find out if there is a Wikimedia chapter in your area and go to one of its meetings. I see on your talk page that you say you are "inept at social communications" so if you prefer to stay online, focusing on Wikiproject that interests you is a good idea. It will bring you in contact with a smaller group of editors with a similar interest. Good luck. Jason Quinn (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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- I would like to endorse the idea of engaging more offline. Also, engaging in the more communications/meta parts of the project like WP:Signpost or WP:GLAM or Education outreach are great ways to find more moral building oportunties: you get a chance to interact with more people that are excited about the project, or whose lives have been changed for the better because of Wikimedia. I know WP:Wikimedia DC, GLAM-Wiki and the Education program turned my engagement with Wikipedia from obsessive detail/process fixing, into a much more strategic and life-influencing activity, because I realized how important our vision is, and how people needed the work we do. Sadads (talk) 22:18, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- I also noticed that you self-identify as LGBT. I would highly recommend engaging with the LGBT user group: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_LGBT/Portal . Sadads (talk) 22:21, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
- I would like to endorse the idea of engaging more offline. Also, engaging in the more communications/meta parts of the project like WP:Signpost or WP:GLAM or Education outreach are great ways to find more moral building oportunties: you get a chance to interact with more people that are excited about the project, or whose lives have been changed for the better because of Wikimedia. I know WP:Wikimedia DC, GLAM-Wiki and the Education program turned my engagement with Wikipedia from obsessive detail/process fixing, into a much more strategic and life-influencing activity, because I realized how important our vision is, and how people needed the work we do. Sadads (talk) 22:18, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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Wiki Loves Folk
In line with the diffusion of free knowledge, in recent years Wikimedia Spain has celebrated Wiki Loves Monuments and Wiki Loves Earth, photographic contests that serve to value the historical, artistic and natural heritage. In that sense, we believe that another important aspect of the culture of a country is its folklore and, within this, its festivals and traditions.
Along with its monumental or natural wealth, Spain has a rich and varied folklore worth to value: religious celebrations, festivals, food festivals... For that reason we´ll organize a new contest in 2016, Wiki Loves Folk, focusing on this type of cultural heritage. While in the past we have based on Sites of Cultural Interest and Sites of Community Importance, in this case we propose the promotion of those celebrations that have any of the following statements: International Touristic Interest, National Touristic Interest, Regional Touristic Interest and Provincial Touristic Interest.
At this moment we are immersed in preparations but very soon we´ll publish details of the competition: celebration dates, rules for participation, awards, etc. We invite you to participate in their organization and preparations. Best regards. --Rodelar (talk) 12:13, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Estimate duration of edit
I know all edits come with submitted timestamps but is there a way to find out how long it took someone to compose an edit? One way would be to use the difference between when the editing window was first opened and the submitted time, but as far as I know the time at which the edit is started is not recorded. I don't think any information about previews leading up to a submission is recorded either. Just seeing if anyone knows something I don't.
Evoapps (talk) 03:25, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
After some sleuthing, I've uncovered a few answers to my original question that I want to post here. Here is a research project that aims to answer this question specifically. Research:Measuring editor labor hours. Various session metrics can be combined to estimate the activity session. Research:Activity session
Evoapps (talk) 14:53, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
- Of course, a user may have spent hours working on this edit before vlicking the "Edit" link for the page/section, either on a uyserspace page (which was subsequently deleted) or offline. The software Wikipedia runs can't possibly give you this information. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:44, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Folk logo contest
Hello, continuing preparations for Wiki Loves Folk, we propose a contest for choosing the logo; the dates for submitting proposals are between December 10, 2015 and January 31, 2016 and the voting period between February 1 and February 10, 2016. More information and rules on this page. Regards. --Rodelar (talk) 12:16, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
A cycle in the category tree: Problem solving and Creativity
The category Problem solving is a subcategory of the category Creativity; also the latter is a subcategory of the former.
- Econterms maybe this post is of interest to you.
- Related: Wikipedia:Categorization#Subcategorization (shortcut: WP:SUBCAT)
- Related post/discussion:
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_51#The_3_categories_Economies.2C_Economic_systems_and_Economics SoSivr (talk) 18:04, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm! I appreciate the problem. Offhand I think neither should be a subcategory of the other. Remember the pages on these topics can be in both categories, and I wouldn't propose to mess with that. Any other views? -- econterms (talk) 23:40, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
- Done! Thanks for the tip. -- econterms (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
Moreover I made suitable subcategories of Creativity subcategories of Problem solving (two subcateg/s of Creativity, Abstraction and Imagination, ARE ALREADY subcateg/s of Problem solving, a good sign !). For example:
- Arts does NOT seem suitable to be a subcategory of Problem solving.
- Intellectual works seems SUITABLE and becomes subcategory of Problem solving (Inventions, Software and Technology are subcategories of Intellectual works).SoSivr (talk) 20:01, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (December 2015)
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Transwiki process for moving non-English content to a different Wikipedia?
Is there a transwiki process (such as tagging templates) to use to mark pages that are not written in English to move to a different, appropriate language Wikipedia ?
And is there a way to mark content that is not English and clearly not meant to be on English Wikipedia for deletion? (Pages that WP:PNT says are not within its purview, therefore not appropriate content for English Wikipedia)
-- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:02, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- If an article would belong at English Wikipedia but for being in the wrong language, we don't delete the article because someone could translate the article and fix the situation. Deletion is primarily reserved for subjects which have no reason to exist at Wikipedia. --Jayron32 11:51, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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- When an article is in the wrong language, there should be an established process to copy it, if we aren't going to move it, to the appropriate language Wikipedia, since it was contributed in a particular language, you would expect it would be appearing in the version of Wikipedia for that language. There should be established copy-tags to template such pages. (such as we have for copying things to Wiktionary) -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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- If it doesn't qualify for a WP:PNT translation request, then does it really belong on English Wikipedia? -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- There is an established process for doing this. See Help:Transwiki for instructions. It is slightly more complex than merely pasting a tag at the top of a page. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:28, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- If it doesn't qualify for a WP:PNT translation request, then does it really belong on English Wikipedia? -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 05:38, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
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- That's the trnaswiki procedure, so that still doesn't tell me if there is an establish process (like AfD) that exists. I have no access to IMPORT, so that's not a useful procedure to me. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, you are correct: The established, license-compliant method for copying content off of the English Wikipedia and onto another language's Wikipedia is the transwiki process. This is the established process, exactly like AFD is the established process for discussing whether an article should be deleted.
- You might have noticed that I did not say that you would be able to do it without assistance from others. I note that, as a logged-out editor, you are equally unable to set up an AFD page. If you want this done, then you will have to ask for help from people who have the relevant user rights. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
- That's the trnaswiki procedure, so that still doesn't tell me if there is an establish process (like AfD) that exists. I have no access to IMPORT, so that's not a useful procedure to me. -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 06:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
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The two categories People and Humans
Another cycle in the category tree: the category People is a subcategory of the category Humans; also the latter is a subcategory of the former.
In my opinion among the two subcategory relationships the first one is the one that should be preferred.
--Related:Wikipedia:Categorization#Subcategorization (shortcut: WP:SUBCAT)
--First related post/discussion: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_51#The_3_categories_Economies.2C_Economic_systems_and_Economics
--Second related post/discussion: #A_cycle_in_the_category_tree:_Problem_solving_and_Creativity
SoSivr (talk) 21:03, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
- In this case, I think that Category:Humans should be taken out of Category:People. Category:People seems to be primarily about topics related to individuals, and Category:Humans seems to be about our species. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 04:47, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
GLAMing Madrid Challenge
Hello. I want to invite you to participate in a writing contest about three state museums in Madrid (Museum of Romaticism, Museo del Traje and National Archaeological Museum), from today December 14, 2015 till January 14, 2016. You can join it in every language. More information in GLAMing Madrid Challenge. Best, --Rodelar (talk) 09:24, 14 December 2015 (UTC)