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- 1 Invasion of Time edits
- 2 The link you asked for
- 3 Reading
- 4 Seasons Greeting to you and yours
- 5 To you
- 6 The Monk
- 7 Enjoy!
- 8 Happy New Year!
- 9 Template talk:WikiProject Biography
- 10 Sailing from Holyhead?
- 11 Problem solved before I could even ask the question
- 12 Hi
- 13 Aldwych Tube Station.
- 14 Navbox default colors
- 15 Guiseley A.F.C.'s stadium
- 16 Apology for absence
- 17 Skepticism banner doc
- 18 York Station
- 19 Help
- 20 Deletion of categories Quux and Baaz
- 21 Book talk:E=MC² (Mariah Carey album)
- 22 RFC
- 23 Your Userpage
- 24 Coventry Arena station
- 25 Need part of a photo
- 26 If you need something done, ask someone who's bussy!
- 27 Learning wikipedia ropes
- 28 Edit summary usage
- 29 Need help about a script: stubtagtab.js
- 30 Croxley link talk
- 31 Query: Correct redirecting
- 32 Hello
- 33 Help us improve wikimeets by filling in the UK Wikimeet survey!
- 34 You missed it!
- 35 if we want a location map, it would be far better to add it to the code inside Template:Infobox GB station
- 36 User:Promptsecretariat
- 37 Advice on warning users for unconstructive edits
- 38 Llanpumpsaint station on the Carmarthen to Aberystwyth line template/ line diagram
- 39 Extra 'via' stations on Horsham station
- 40 DYK for Anna Bråkenhielm
- 41 Plots
- 42 Template:Gutenberg author
- 43 em-dashes, en-dash & advisor.js
- 44 Cross section of cleanup category & WikiProjects
- 45 St Austell railway station
- 46 Category: Assyrian (Ashuri) script
- 47 Bournemouth station
- 48 Birmingham meetup
- 49 Ronny Lee
- 50 A cup of tea for you!
- 51 Redlinks
- 52 Image
- 53 Beats of Rage -Protection Request
- 54 Halloween cheer!
- 55 Bristol Temple Meads railway station
- 56 Oxford - Marylebone
- 57 Reversions
- 58 Disrupting Wikipedia
Invasion of Time edits
The link you asked for
Sorry I'm bad at using wikipedia and messed up adding the cite, I asked Northern the other day about Bolton's Platform 2 and they replied to me https://twitter.com/northernrailorg/status/291975325221535745?uid=17412258&iid=am-34365388813588638626255904&nid=56+427
Reading
Seasons Greeting to you and yours
To you
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The Monk
I was sitting with a high steward, discussing Anglo-Saxon monks. The name we couldn't remember was Nennius. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 04:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC).
Enjoy!
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Happy New Year!
Dear Redrose64,
HAPPY NEW YEAR Hoping 2015 will be a great year for you! Thank you for your contributions!
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Template talk:WikiProject Biography
Hi Redrose64, quick message. On Template talk:WikiProject Biography, I removed the category not because I had been lazy and just not fixed the issue, I just hadn't realised that it might have been there because someone had posted a link to it in the talk. I had assumed it was just a one-time problem with the actual template itself at the top of the talk page, and so I could fix that by removing the category. I used hot cat, so didn't actually see what I had deleted. I should have checked changes before pressing to save my edit. I apologise, I just wanted to clear any misunderstanding. Thanks, SamWilson989 (talk)
Sailing from Holyhead?
Where can you sail to by Stena Line? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IkbenFrank (talk • contribs) 20:08, 27 April 2015
Problem solved before I could even ask the question
Hello R. I was wondering why there were so many football teams were in the "incorrect protection template" category today. Then I saw your edit summary here and everything became clear. Thank goodness because the question was going to be a long winded one and I couldn't figure out how to shorten it. I hope that you have a pleasant week. MarnetteD|Talk 23:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Your expertise is needed
Hi R. Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates has a large number of archived talk pages on it today. I did some searching but couldn't find the common factor as to why this happened. I am also wondering why the protection on this page Jat people is showing up on the list. Anything that you can do to fix these will be appreciated. MarnetteD|Talk 15:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: When you come across something like Jat people, where Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates wasn't listed in the hidden cats at the bottom, give it a WP:NULLEDIT and reload the cat page; Jat people should then disappear.
- As for the archives (and some others), they were due to this edit by EurovisionNim (talk · contribs) who apparently didn't notice that (a) the page already had a
{{pp-move-indef}}
; and (b) since the page is transcluded, any prot icon templates must be inside<noinclude>...</noinclude>
. Perhaps I should WP:TROUT them for that. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:30, 1 August 2015 (UTC)- I had a tiny suspicion that it might be that template but there were a couple others that were on the few pages I looked at. I was in a hurry to go and spend the afternoon with friends who are leaving for Hong Kong on Wednesday so I do thank you for dealing with these. MarnetteD|Talk 22:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
- Here is new one R Template:So Fresh albums. I tried placing the "noinclude" template in different places but they did not remove the articles that the navbox is used on from the list. So I will let you take care of what needs to be done. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 18:53, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: This is in relation to this edit - when protected pages (not just templates) might be transcluded, it is imperative that any protection template that is inside them not be transcluded along with the "real" content. So care needs to be taken when protecting a template and adding a prot icon template to it. Generally speaking, if the newly-protected template already has a
{{documentation}}
or a{{collapsible option}}
, that will display any appropriate icon, so leave the newly-protected page alone (this is not the case here). Otherwise, if it does not already have a<noinclude>...</noinclude>
section, create one; put the protection icon template inside the<noinclude>...</noinclude>
section (which you may have just added). So this is the appropriate fix. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:45, 2 August 2015 (UTC)- Oh dear. Sorry about that!! I guess I knew this much but haven't gotten into the habit of checking "wrap in noinclude" when protecting templates using Twinkle. I think I could update Twinkle to do this automatically... I will look into it! Aside from being in the template space, is there any other scenario where the script could look for something on the page to reliably know if the protection template should be wrapped in
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
? — MusikAnimal talk 19:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)- Non-zero transclusion count. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:01, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oh dear. Sorry about that!! I guess I knew this much but haven't gotten into the habit of checking "wrap in noinclude" when protecting templates using Twinkle. I think I could update Twinkle to do this automatically... I will look into it! Aside from being in the template space, is there any other scenario where the script could look for something on the page to reliably know if the protection template should be wrapped in
- @MusikAnimal: This is in relation to this edit - when protected pages (not just templates) might be transcluded, it is imperative that any protection template that is inside them not be transcluded along with the "real" content. So care needs to be taken when protecting a template and adding a prot icon template to it. Generally speaking, if the newly-protected template already has a
- Here is new one R Template:So Fresh albums. I tried placing the "noinclude" template in different places but they did not remove the articles that the navbox is used on from the list. So I will let you take care of what needs to be done. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 18:53, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- I had a tiny suspicion that it might be that template but there were a couple others that were on the few pages I looked at. I was in a hurry to go and spend the afternoon with friends who are leaving for Hong Kong on Wednesday so I do thank you for dealing with these. MarnetteD|Talk 22:35, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Bam, now Twinkle will always default-enable the wrapping of <noinclude>...</noinclude>
when applying any kind of protection to pages in the template space. Is it a big deal that it uses its own noinclude tags as opposed to putting it in existing noinclude tags within the page source?
I was also informed about this issue... is that still a problem? I take it there's some Lua magic that show/hides the right padlock based on the current protection? If that is true, it begs the question, is there not someway we could incorporate that Lua magic on all pages? Maybe there's a MediaWiki-namespaced page where we could put that code, not sure. — MusikAnimal talk 23:26, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MusikAnimal: If it uses its own noinclude tags, where are they - at the top or at the bottom? Are they added as an extra line?
- yes, it is still a problem - hence this revert from just two days ago. But it's not Lua magic - any template which has
{{documentation}}
will have been displaying the appropriate protection icon since this edit in January 2010, some years before Lua was available ({{documentation}}
was converted to Lua in January 2014). Without Lua, it is done by means of the{{PROTECTIONLEVEL:}}
parser function, which first became available with MediaWiki 1.15, in 2009. This is how{{collapsible option}}
still does it. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)- Thanks for the info! I can look into making it check for {{documentation}} or {{collapsible option}} and if present, prevent the adding of the protection template. Best — MusikAnimal talk 14:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hello again R. When you have a moment would you take a look at the two new pages labeled "User:Basalisk/Dashboard" and "User:Keeper76/dashboard" that showed up today. The first one seems to have been indef protected two and a half years ago so it seems odd that it would be on the list at all. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 15:33, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: Dashboard pages occasionally pop up, it always means that one of the transcluded pages like
{{admin dashboard/aiv}}
(remember that transclusions can go deep) has had a prot icon template added outside the noinclude. Again. In this case, WP:NULLEDITs sorted both. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: Dashboard pages occasionally pop up, it always means that one of the transcluded pages like
- Hello again R. When you have a moment would you take a look at the two new pages labeled "User:Basalisk/Dashboard" and "User:Keeper76/dashboard" that showed up today. The first one seems to have been indef protected two and a half years ago so it seems odd that it would be on the list at all. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 15:33, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info! I can look into making it check for {{documentation}} or {{collapsible option}} and if present, prevent the adding of the protection template. Best — MusikAnimal talk 14:44, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
When you have a moment
Hello R. Would you please take a look at the remaining items at Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates when you get a chance. In particular the Person article. I tried the null edit and adding in the time but it still is on the list. Maybe this edit summary has something to do with it. The BD2412HC page and the Vigil/Draft article are also baffling me. As ever thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 20:13, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Here you are --Redrose64 (talk) 20:34, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks! MarnetteD|Talk 21:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
- Here is a new one that needs your skills. Saúl Álvarez is now on the list. I tried removing that template but a bot put it back. From what I can find the page has been moved several time so that might be part of the problem. I check the redirects but wasn't able to find anything. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 02:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- What makes you think that
{{pp-pc1}}
is not applicable here? --Redrose64 (talk) 11:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)- Since the bot put that protection back it obviously is applicable. That is why I did not remove it a second time. The article is still showing up in the Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. I was just hoping that you would be able to find out why. MarnetteD|Talk 13:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Same remedy as Jat people at #Your expertise is needed. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- I thought that I had tried that but obviously not. Thanks. BTW I finally picked up this book that we discussed several months ago. If you combine it with this one you can pretty much follow the history of every stories fate on tape, film, etc after to its initial broadcast. Paul Smith mentions that the technology which allowed for restoring to colour the Pertwee episodes that only existed in black & white is "staggering." I have to agree. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 14:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Same remedy as Jat people at #Your expertise is needed. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Since the bot put that protection back it obviously is applicable. That is why I did not remove it a second time. The article is still showing up in the Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates. I was just hoping that you would be able to find out why. MarnetteD|Talk 13:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- What makes you think that
- Here is a new one that needs your skills. Saúl Álvarez is now on the list. I tried removing that template but a bot put it back. From what I can find the page has been moved several time so that might be part of the problem. I check the redirects but wasn't able to find anything. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 02:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks! MarnetteD|Talk 21:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
A new one has started within the last few hours. Article talk pages are starting to show up in the category and the one thing they have in common is this template Template:WikiProject Burma (Myanmar). I tried the null edit and that did not change anything. While it is protected I could not find a page protection template in it to move into the "noinclude" command. As it is used in so many article talk pages I thought I should let you fix whatever needs fixing. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 23:23, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
- Tip: look in the hidden cats section of the category box at the bottom of the offending page. If Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates is not listed, it's almost certainly in need of WP:NULLEDIT - doing this fixed all of the talk and category talk pages. --Redrose64 (talk) 07:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip. I did try the nulledit - especially since I had forgotten it on my request for help just before this one. Not sure why it didn't work but I will certainly keep trying it in the future. It was interesting to observe how many new talk pages were showing up on the list each time I went back to check it. It would be up to 20 or 30 by now if you hadn't fixed things. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 15:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hello again. Today I noticed that several AFD related pages have shown up on the list. I tried to find an article or template that were common to all of them but was unsuccessful. I'm hoping that you will be able to find what needs fixing. MarnetteD|Talk 14:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- These are all built up from transclusions, ultimately of pages like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johan Matton (3rd nomination). These AfD pages are sometimes protected, so you need to identify the protected one, and
<noinclude>...</noinclude>
the prot icon template, like this. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- These are all built up from transclusions, ultimately of pages like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johan Matton (3rd nomination). These AfD pages are sometimes protected, so you need to identify the protected one, and
- Hello again. Today I noticed that several AFD related pages have shown up on the list. I tried to find an article or template that were common to all of them but was unsuccessful. I'm hoping that you will be able to find what needs fixing. MarnetteD|Talk 14:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip. I did try the nulledit - especially since I had forgotten it on my request for help just before this one. Not sure why it didn't work but I will certainly keep trying it in the future. It was interesting to observe how many new talk pages were showing up on the list each time I went back to check it. It would be up to 20 or 30 by now if you hadn't fixed things. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 15:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Here is a new one
Hello R. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/All current discussions showed up on the list yesterday. I tried a null edit. I also looked at the templates used on the page. Next I checked the discussions added yesterday in case one of them was causing the problem but came up empty. It is probably something simple but if you could take a look when you have a moment it will be appreciated. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- This fixes it. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- As ever many thanks. I'll remember that the search may need to go back more than just one day. MarnetteD|Talk 18:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- This one was protected due to socking. XFD discussions typically run for at least seven days, so if the socks arrive after two or three days, it might not be straight away that a prot is applied. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the followup explanation. There are several items in the list now and as I search through them there may be two unrelated templates that I cannot find. The first is this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 August 31 which is like the one you fixed but it hasn't had a protection applied. I think this is why there are three deletion sorting projects in the "W" section. Then there are two Biosthmors user pages and one Draecko/Desk page. All three of them have an edit like this where a category was added but no protection has been applied. I know the link is already on your talk page but I will add it again Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates so you don't have to scroll up to find it. Thanks ahead of time. MarnetteD|Talk 04:59, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ack - I checked one more time before heading off to sleep and a dozen new pages, all related to AFD, have shown up so you may find a page full when you get to this. I hope that it isn't too difficult to track down. MarnetteD|Talk 05:07, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Unlike most of the other XFD pages, the daily AFD pages are themselves built up from transclusions - one per article, so it's highly unlikely that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 August 31 was itself protected, but one of the specific AfD pages.
- When you get a bunch of pages showing up together that are vaguely related (in this case, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 August 31, User:Biosthmors/Bugs, User:Biosthmors/Things, User:Draeco/Desk, Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Deletion sorting, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Medicine, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/People, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/United States of America), look for something in common - a transclusion that they all share. The transclusion list is shown at the very bottom when editing the whole page (not when section editing), below the Save page etc. buttons, in the collapsible section "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page". Compare these lists, see if there's one page that is listed on all of them.
- Remember that our original problem was with a Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/... daily page, so in this case we're looking for a specific AfD, so needn't check the other transcluded pages for commonality. There are only two AfDs transcluded on all of them: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Boxer Wachler (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Timothy Harlan, and only the first of these has a prot icon template, so the fix is to do this. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- As for the "dozen new pages, all related to AFD", they were fixed with this edit. Somewhat easier, as one of the pages listed at Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates was Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Egypt, which has only two transcluded AfDs so a first guess from those was bound to have a 50% chance. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to clue me in on all of the things to look for. I know that I have seen the transclusion list before but I had no idea what it was for. Your info will help to track down these items in the future. Only a couple more weeks to go until the Rugby World Cup. Exciting times! MarnetteD|Talk 13:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ack - I checked one more time before heading off to sleep and a dozen new pages, all related to AFD, have shown up so you may find a page full when you get to this. I hope that it isn't too difficult to track down. MarnetteD|Talk 05:07, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the followup explanation. There are several items in the list now and as I search through them there may be two unrelated templates that I cannot find. The first is this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2015 August 31 which is like the one you fixed but it hasn't had a protection applied. I think this is why there are three deletion sorting projects in the "W" section. Then there are two Biosthmors user pages and one Draecko/Desk page. All three of them have an edit like this where a category was added but no protection has been applied. I know the link is already on your talk page but I will add it again Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates so you don't have to scroll up to find it. Thanks ahead of time. MarnetteD|Talk 04:59, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- This one was protected due to socking. XFD discussions typically run for at least seven days, so if the socks arrive after two or three days, it might not be straight away that a prot is applied. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- As ever many thanks. I'll remember that the search may need to go back more than just one day. MarnetteD|Talk 18:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello again R. A batch of "convert" templates showed up on the list today. As I checked through the transclusions it looks like they all share the same ones and those are all protected so that only admins can edit them. If you can fix this when you have a moment that will be most appreciated. Nest regards. MarnetteD|Talk 16:04, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- User:Paul Barlow is on the list as well. Looks like it needs a null edit but as it has been fully protected I cannot perform that. Thanks MarnetteD|Talk 16:24, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- None of the convert templates were protected. They were showing in the cat because WOSlinker (talk · contribs) had unprotected them but had not removed the
{{pp-template}}
. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:02, 7 September 2015 (UTC) - User:Paul Barlow was showing because Yunshui (talk · contribs) had altered the protection expiry from 19:19, 14 August 2015 to indef, but had not amended the
{{pp-protected}}
to suit. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)- Thanks for taking care of them. MarnetteD|Talk 02:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Didn't there used to be a bot that would take care of the protection templates? -- WOSlinker (talk) 06:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- @WOSlinker: Yes, see #Removing protection icons above. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:36, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Didn't there used to be a bot that would take care of the protection templates? -- WOSlinker (talk) 06:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking care of them. MarnetteD|Talk 02:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- None of the convert templates were protected. They were showing in the cat because WOSlinker (talk · contribs) had unprotected them but had not removed the
When you have a moment
Hello R. The Homo naledi article showed up in the category today. As it is fully protected I can't edit it to fix things so if you could take care of it that will be much appreciated. I hope you are enjoying both the rugby and the new episodes of Dr Who. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 19:37, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
A new one
Hi again. Tony Kornheiser is fully protected so I can't edit it to get it off the list. I thought the CGI recreation of Ray Cusick's Dalek City model was well done. Cheers and have a great week. MarnetteD|Talk 18:15, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that one did need admin rights to fix. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:18, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- When you get a chance please check on Foreign Affairs. I tried the null edit and a couple other things but none of them worked. I am guessing that it has something to do with one protection being applied and then changed a few hours later as can be seen here. As ever thanks for your time and help. MarnetteD|Talk 13:53, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- The
{{pp-move}}
template is for pages with full move protection; but at 18:14, 12 October 2015 Samir (talk · contribs) reduced the full move protection to semi. This action is pointless, since users need to be confirmed in order to move pages, so I reduced it all the way to unprot and also removed the{{pp-move}}
--Redrose64 (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- The
Here Talk:List of billionaires (2004)/attribution is another one that is fully protected R. It looks like the edit history of a deleted article was copied to the talk page and I don't think I've ever seen that before. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's not the problem. It's a page that was deleted and restored: deletion removes all protections, but a restored page has no protection of any kind regardless of any prots it may have had at the time of deletion. This particular page had been fully protected, and correctly bore a
{{pp-protected}}
- in that state it was deleted at 21:00, 29 November 2011 by Fastily (talk · contribs). Graham87 (talk · contribs) restored the page as it previously stood at 12:23, 19 October 2015, and later restored the previous protection level, at 13:48, 19 October 2015. If a page has a protection icon template and the protection is changed, an edit of some sort - even a null edit - is normally necessary for the protection icon template to emit the correct categories. This I have done. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I need your help yet again
As I type this two "Arbitration requests..." reports have shown up in the cat. I tried null edits and then I tracked this item that was created today Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Vested contributors/Notice. I tried a null edit on it and then tried adding the noinclude but neither of those worked. The two items do have this template Template:Casenav in common but it's protection hasn't been changed since last November. Your help in figuring this out will be appreciated. MarnetteD|Talk 03:23, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, but you added the wrong tags, fixed. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:14, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oh good grief. I don't remember ever seeing (er "paying attention to" is probably a better term) that one before. At least now I know about it. Thanks for cleaning up my mess on aisle two. MarnetteD|Talk 14:20, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello again R. This redirect was fully protected long ago but it showed up on the list today. I can't apply a null edit - or anything else if it needs more than that. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 00:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- I just found this redirect on the list as well. If this is part of the work that you and Paine Ellsworth are performing then please disregard these messages. MarnetteD|Talk 00:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, MarnetteD – actually any redirects that appear now will be the result of deployment of the improvements to the R protection templates. I have submitted edit requests on the talk pages of the targets of the two that are in there now. Pleasant pathways, Painius 00:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks Paine Ellsworth. I know R won't see this for several hours. Should I let you and/or R know about these if any more pop up? MarnetteD|Talk 00:46, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Hi, MarnetteD – actually any redirects that appear now will be the result of deployment of the improvements to the R protection templates. I have submitted edit requests on the talk pages of the targets of the two that are in there now. Pleasant pathways, Painius 00:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- I just found this redirect on the list as well. If this is part of the work that you and Paine Ellsworth are performing then please disregard these messages. MarnetteD|Talk 00:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hello again R. This redirect was fully protected long ago but it showed up on the list today. I can't apply a null edit - or anything else if it needs more than that. Thanks. MarnetteD|Talk 00:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oh good grief. I don't remember ever seeing (er "paying attention to" is probably a better term) that one before. At least now I know about it. Thanks for cleaning up my mess on aisle two. MarnetteD|Talk 14:20, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good Paine. Best and spookiest wishes for a fun Halloween to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 00:56, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- My favorite holiday! Paine
Here is a tricky one
Tonight I found two "Portal animation" items and a list in AussieLegend's works space in the category. The one thing they had in common was copies from The Simpsons articles on the page. I did some digging and couldn't find a protection template that would cause this problem. As I worked on other pages that were in the incorrect PP cat this essay Wikipedia:Fancruft was also listed but its last protection was almost a decade ago. I then found a big red warning message near the bottom of the page that mentions The Simpsons. Is this red warning connected to the other pages being on the list somehow? Pinging Paine as well in hopes that either or both of you can figure out what is going on. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 04:40, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- It concerns
{{The Simpsons episode count}}
, attempts to orphan that and hence give an excuse to delete it, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 October 24#Template:The Simpsons episode count. In my view, transcluding an entire article (The Simpsons) by means of the markup{{:The Simpsons}}
just to extract one figure is hugely inefficient. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi
If you find time for it please take a look at the article on Saga Becker. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 21:53, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- And Anna Bråkenhielm and Lo Kauppi. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:24, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've added the appropriate link to d:Q18816550#sitelinks-wikipedia and some parameters at Talk:Saga Becker. What specifically did you want doing? --Redrose64 (talk) 23:27, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Aldwych Tube Station.
I find it unlikely that there was ever a public service from Aldwych further than Holborn. Whereas a train eastbound could make a viable journey beyond Holborn stopping at the correct platforms, a westbound train (to Aldwych) is forced to adopt wrong direction working beyond the crossover just west of Kings Cross. This means that the this hypothetical westbound sevice to Aldwych is forced to call at the eastbound platform at Russell Square.
The London Tansport Museum depot at Acton have an extensive collection of enamel signs from The London Underground's history. I am told by one of the curators that they have no sign(s) for the eastbound platform of Russell Square that also mentions services to Aldwych. They also state that they are unaware of any such service. Indeed, I can find no evdidence at all that any public service operated serving Aldwych originating from anywhere other than Holborn suggesting that the branch has only ever operated as a two station line. This would also mean that Holborn was a terminus for the public services on the line. –LiveRail < Talk > 13:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- There was a regular evening service (Sundays excepted), mainly for the theatre traffic. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
It was an edit conflict. Don't walk off in a huff. You're better than that, old man. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:03, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not annoyed at you - it's Alakzi and a few other non-Admins who have issues with admins as a group. They would do well to read and understand what HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs) wrote on a recent RfA and its talk page. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:19, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't disagree at all. Even when they're doing otherwise good and valuable work, I wish they would take a less confrontational approach. EvergreenFir has opened an RfC on the template talk page; I would be grateful if you would register your opinion there. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 10:55, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Guiseley A.F.C.'s stadium
Please could you visit User talk:Mattythewhite#Stadium_notability? Do you think that the stadium passes the GNG? Leeds United FC fan (talk) 19:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- Answered there. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Apology for absence
Hello Redrose64, I'm going to be offline for the weekend and hence unable to update Borders Railway in time. -- KlausFoehl (talk) 16:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Skepticism banner doc
Rather than just revert your reversion I thought I'd ask you, why do you think that needs-infobox is not a valid parameter, and why do you think that the various params for WPBannerDoc are necessary in our case? Jerod Lycett (talk) 09:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- The
{{{needs-infobox|}}}
markup does not appear anywhere in Template:WikiProject Skepticism. As for the{{WPBannerDoc}}
parameters - have a look at who wrote that template. It was designed to be robust, with provision for redundancy. Yes, if|ATTENTION_CAT=
and|ASSESSMENT_LINK=
are missing, it will attempt to construct replacement values using|PROJECT=
- but it was always intended that if the WikiProject template used|ATTENTION_CAT=
and|ASSESSMENT_LINK=
explicitly, the same params would be used by{{WPBannerDoc}}
to avoid ambiguity. Should|ATTENTION_CAT=
and|ASSESSMENT_LINK=
ever be removed from{{WikiProject Skepticism}}
, they may then also be removed from Template:WikiProject Skepticism/doc. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:23, 4 September 2015 (UTC)- I swear I added the needs-infobox when updating. I figured that given it would build the correct version with only PROJECT that it was redundant, and not required to include the other two. Seems odd to me to have that stuff. I'll look at the main template and see if the parameters need removed there. Seriously, I swear I added the needs-infobox, maybe I'm going nuttier than I realized. Jerod Lycett (talk) 09:29, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Your only recent edit to
{{WikiProject Skepticism}}
was this one, where you altered|QUALITY_SCALE=extended
to|QUALITY_SCALE=subpage
, which is what took me to the doc page so that I could bring it in synch with this edit. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:41, 4 September 2015 (UTC)- Yeah, turns out I still had the tab open with the needs-infobox change. I've been trying to cleanup WikiProject Skepticism's assessment stuff to make it easier for me to start doing a massive assess and improvement cycle. My goal is to have no stub nor start class articles in the next 12-18 months in the project. Jerod Lycett (talk) 09:47, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Your most recent changes are fine. As for eliminating stubs and starts - big task, there are 165 and 707 pages respectively. You might find that some cannot be raised to C-class using available sources, and that the only way of emptying Category:Stub-Class Skepticism articles and Category:Start-Class Skepticism articles is to decide that some of the pages aren't within the project's scope. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:55, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, turns out I still had the tab open with the needs-infobox change. I've been trying to cleanup WikiProject Skepticism's assessment stuff to make it easier for me to start doing a massive assess and improvement cycle. My goal is to have no stub nor start class articles in the next 12-18 months in the project. Jerod Lycett (talk) 09:47, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- Your only recent edit to
- I swear I added the needs-infobox when updating. I figured that given it would build the correct version with only PROJECT that it was redundant, and not required to include the other two. Seems odd to me to have that stuff. I'll look at the main template and see if the parameters need removed there. Seriously, I swear I added the needs-infobox, maybe I'm going nuttier than I realized. Jerod Lycett (talk) 09:29, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
York Station
Hi Redrose,
Thanks for correcting me on my infobox error, but the wikipedia page is a little confusing - in the "Recent Developments" section, it states that in June 2015, York became a Network Rail managed station. This link http://www.railstaff.uk/2014/05/30/network-manages-stations/ partially supports the idea, in that Network Rail will manage the admin leaving VTEC to face the passengers. Do you stand by your decision to keep VTEC as the manager or should we include both? The same thing applies for Newcastle Central too.
Thanks very much, Jack Bellminsterboy (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
- In the infobox of York railway station there is a link station information. If you follow that, you will see above the photo and below the large text "York (YRK)", the normal-size text "Managed by Virgin Trains East Coast". Similarly at Newcastle railway station, follow the station information link and below "Newcastle (NCL)" it says "Managed by Virgin Trains East Coast". --Redrose64 (talk) 16:10, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Help
Could you please take a look at the article on Christopher Wilder. Any help is appreciated as always, c/e, expansions, comments at talk page etc...--BabbaQ (talk) 23:35, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Deletion of categories Quux and Baaz
Hi Redrose,
in your note you explained your reasons for the above captioned categories should be deleted as: "G6: unnecessary test category - we know that MW doesn't prevent self-categorization (there's lots of category loops in en wp), WM2015 is over"
I agree that as WM2015 is over, the categories may be deleted. However, I also feel that Wikipedians should get together to trash out the category loops that exist in en wp. Can something concrete be done about these loops, do you think ? Joe Gatt (talk) 23:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- I deleted them, but the deletion was requested by DexDor (talk · contribs) who used
{{db-g6|rationale=unnecessary test category - we know that MW doesn't prevent self-categorization (there's lots of category loops in en wp), WM2015 is over}}
. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:10, 6 September 2015 (UTC) - Hi Joe, Things that can be done include fixing those listed at User:Danilo.mac/Category loops (by identifying which link in each chain is incorrect and fixing it) - that's something that can be done by individual editors (I've done a few). If there are any listed there that you can't work out how to fix then you could ask the relevant topic wikiproject, but in my experience asking a topic wikiproject about categorization problems doesn't get much/any response. It would also be helpful if this was one of the standard database reports (e.g. updated monthly); that it's not is one of the reasons why I currently prefer to use other techniques to identify sloppy categorization. DexDor (talk) 06:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Book talk:E=MC² (Mariah Carey album)
Hey, I'm having a problem with getting the album to show. The table isn't fortmatting properly. It's making all of the book links on the single and song articles appear dead too. Can you help me please? — Calvin999 09:25, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- The main problem is that equals sign in the title. These changes to the talk page make it display properly, but I don't know what the bot will do to it. One possible solution is not to link to E=MC² (Mariah Carey album) directly, but to go through a redirect that doesn't involve an equals sign. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:55, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ah okay thanks. Didn't know about the "1"'s and what they did. Will wait for the bot to update. — Calvin999 10:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Calvin999: As you probably know, there are two ways to pass a parameter into a template, and this largely depends on how the template was designed. One is by using named parameters, such as with
{{cite web}}
where you might put|work=Billboard
- the param name iswork
and its value isBillboard
. In named parameters, the values can be pretty much anything apart from a pipe|
. - The other is with positional parameters, such as the single parameter of something like
{{Wikipedia books|Merry Christmas II You}}
. These have certain restrictions that named parameters don't have, the main one is that they cannot contain an equals sign. If the value of what should be a positional parameter contains an equals sign, it's treated as if it were a named parameter, so for{{Wikipedia books|E=MC² (Mariah Carey album)}}
this is treated as if it had a parameter namedE
whose value isMC² (Mariah Carey album)
which is not at all what we want. To force this parameter to be treated as a positional parameter, we need to explicitly number it -|1=E=MC² (Mariah Carey album)
which means that for parameter1
its value isE=MC² (Mariah Carey album)
. When doing this, it's also necessary to explicitly number all subsequent positional parameters, which is why I needed to do this - even though that parameter didn't contain an equals. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:46, 7 September 2015 (UTC)- Thanks for explaining. — Calvin999 10:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Calvin999: As you probably know, there are two ways to pass a parameter into a template, and this largely depends on how the template was designed. One is by using named parameters, such as with
- Ah okay thanks. Didn't know about the "1"'s and what they did. Will wait for the bot to update. — Calvin999 10:09, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
RFC
I've opened a RFC on the use of the Lua-based diagrams at Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template#RFC. I've given Useddenim a warning for disruptive editing for changing the {{Waverley Line}} back to the new system after I had told him not to. There is no consensus that I can see for the introduction of this new system; as such, RDTs should not be changed to it now that their use has been challenged pending the formation of consensus. I tried editing the Waverley Line template under the new system and it was hopeless. I couldn't even move a line of text within the diagram. Mjroots (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- A straw man argument, if one looks at the net changes and checks the page history. Useddenim (talk) 00:47, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Your Userpage
Hello Redrose64,
I thought I might let you know that it was a bit tedious in verifying that you were an en-wiki sysop. I just wanted to suggest that it might be helpful for editors if you had the sysop userbox towards the top of your userpage. Just a thought. --JustBerry (talk) 22:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- @JustBerry: I never rely on userboxes, they can be faked easily. If I want to know if somebody's an admin, I go to their contributions, at the bottom of which is a box with some links, and in that I click on User rights. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:26, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think you understood me.
{{User wikipedia/Administrator}}
- You can verify sysop by clicking the subscript verification link and verify the certification of the page you're visiting. Anyways, not my user page - thought it might be helpful to other users. --JustBerry (talk) 22:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- I understood you perfectly well, and I have known for several years what that userbox does. My point is that its use is not obligatory, and its position, when used, is not mandated. There are many ways of finding out what a user's rights are, and userboxes must not be relied on. --Redrose64 (talk) 07:01, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Coventry Arena station
- Hi there, I've put my rationale for the change on the talk page. The reference does say (to me anyway) that the station isn't useful for the stadium. I've quoted the part of the article there. Cls14 (talk) 10:18, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Need part of a photo
Am I remembering correctly that you were able to help me with this? If so, I need the upper right portion of this photo for the infobox here. True, a better photo should most certainly be found, but it's all I have right now.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Are you thinking of File:Mint Museum in uptown Charlotte, North Carolina crop.jpg? --Redrose64 (talk) 23:24, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. Thank you. Can you help me with the other photo?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:51, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
If you need something done, ask someone who's bussy!
Once again, I come to ask for help! Mutations happen in Welsh, where constanants soften after feminine words / numerals. cy:Nodyn:Years_or_months_ago needs to be amended. The mutations/exeptions are few, mainly 1 - 10, which I've noted on the Talk page. Can you take a look, and amend so that the words are produced on screen, rather than the default 'xx blwyddyn' (year). PS the nouns that follow a numeral in Welsh are always singular (which really does make sense!) eg 21 table, not 21 tables; 15 year, not 15 years. I've also created a test page (ready for our 'On this day...' feature here). Many thanks! Llywelyn2000 (talk) 05:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Will have a look, can't promise a solution. I've come across mutations before, when I was small I didn't appreciate that goch and coch were the same colour. The concept is clearly so important that it's introduced as early as chapter 2 in
- Jones, Christine (2007). Welsh Grammar. Teach Yourself. London: Hodder Headline. ISBN 978-0-340-88786-8.
- Apparently it can help to distinguish nouns that are spelt similarly in Welsh but have different English meanings - rhos goch and rhos coch are not the same. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Many thanks; copied onto the actual page, as we have only a few articles sucking it in. With all numbers (other than the exceptions 'blynedd' is used). I've listed the exceptions here, so we need a code for each one, which changes the default to the one in the list. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 06:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Learning wikipedia ropes
Redrose64 - I'm having to address some pages in wikipedia because of their use in sites such as facebook. 'Weston Subedge' and a few other places were causing problems and so I sat down to correct the underlying stuff, such as miss spellings. I've no doubt 'Weston-sub-Edge' is what the current parish council would like to use, but it would seem we have no OFFICIAL minute to support that so other official bodies have not made the change. NOW I'm trying to learn all the extras when all I wanted to do was change a name. We have several hundred mistakes logged on facebook places and many of them are down to miss use of wikipedia so it looks as if I need to learn all of the quirks of citing documents :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lsces (talk • contribs) 11:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lsces: We have so many policies and guidelines that I don't think that anybody knows them all (indeed, most decisions on cases handled by the Arbitration Committee start off by quoting extracts from relevant policies, so that everybody involved is aware of what the agreed policies actually say). But we have some core content policies that everybody needs to be aware of, and should follow as far as possible. These are: Verifiability, no original research and neutral point of view. So if, for example, you want to move an article about a railway station to a different title, that title must be verifiable. We use the station name that was used by the railway company, rather than the name of the locality in which the station lies, for two main reasons: first, it's easy to find out (there are dozens of books on railway topics from reliable publishers that name stations, and often show photos of their nameboards); second, it avoids the confusion that would ensue if we invented names - did you know that Clapham Junction railway station is not in Clapham? It's actually in Battersea, so if we were to name that article Battersea Junction railway station, there would be many puzzled people. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:50, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: The saga of Weston Subedge is ongoing, and for the railway station then yes when looking for it on timetables Weston-Sub-Edge is the right spelling, but all of my own data about the station is map and property based identifies it as 'Weson Subedge Station' so I think the point here is that one needs to know all the names and where they are used. I'm going to add my recent research to the talk page of both articles and take it from there ... Lsces (talk) 07:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lsces: I must again draw your attention to the core content policy on no original research. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:01, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Lsces: What's important is how the railway company actually called the station, not how it was considered by Ordnance Survey or local authorities. If you have a look at this timetable, you will see the station as it is currently spelt in the article title. Lamberhurst (talk) 12:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lamberhurst: - see Talk:Weston-sub-Edge railway station. But Lsces has been working mainly on Weston-Sub-Edge, which is the one with the most WP:NOR issues. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lamberhurst: I've now got a bit more evidence on just what has gone on over time, but I'm not sure if it's 'original research'. I've posted a small part on Talk:Weston-Sub-Edge and the current situation is that both names are being used actively today. Re the Station, if one looks at railway documents, the hyphenated version is used, but all of the legal stuff such as planning used the Weston Subedge spelling, so both are relevant depending on what you are looking for. Lsces (talk) 22:40, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lsces: For the names of railway station articles, we use the name that is or was shown on station signs and in timetables; not the locality, not the name shown on maps; but the name that was actually used by the railway company. If that differs from the name of the town/village/whatever, then Wikipedia is not the place to Right Great Wrongs. If the station is still open, take it up with the railway company. If it's closed - tough. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: I'm quite happy with the station page now ... as I said originally it was and actually still is recorded as it appears on the maps in my archive so I was not aware of the difference. My problem is only with the village page which needs better explanation as to why both spellings are currently correct. Not Right Great Wrongs but simply documenting the current verifiable diversity. Lsces (talk) 23:23, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lsces: For the names of railway station articles, we use the name that is or was shown on station signs and in timetables; not the locality, not the name shown on maps; but the name that was actually used by the railway company. If that differs from the name of the town/village/whatever, then Wikipedia is not the place to Right Great Wrongs. If the station is still open, take it up with the railway company. If it's closed - tough. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lamberhurst: I've now got a bit more evidence on just what has gone on over time, but I'm not sure if it's 'original research'. I've posted a small part on Talk:Weston-Sub-Edge and the current situation is that both names are being used actively today. Re the Station, if one looks at railway documents, the hyphenated version is used, but all of the legal stuff such as planning used the Weston Subedge spelling, so both are relevant depending on what you are looking for. Lsces (talk) 22:40, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lamberhurst: - see Talk:Weston-sub-Edge railway station. But Lsces has been working mainly on Weston-Sub-Edge, which is the one with the most WP:NOR issues. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:34, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Lsces: What's important is how the railway company actually called the station, not how it was considered by Ordnance Survey or local authorities. If you have a look at this timetable, you will see the station as it is currently spelt in the article title. Lamberhurst (talk) 12:24, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Lsces: I must again draw your attention to the core content policy on no original research. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:01, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Redrose64: The saga of Weston Subedge is ongoing, and for the railway station then yes when looking for it on timetables Weston-Sub-Edge is the right spelling, but all of my own data about the station is map and property based identifies it as 'Weson Subedge Station' so I think the point here is that one needs to know all the names and where they are used. I'm going to add my recent research to the talk page of both articles and take it from there ... Lsces (talk) 07:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Edit summary usage
Hi Redrose64. Been a while since we bumped into each other. I was just looking at the Weston-Sub-Edge article and your recent changes and was hoping to have a little chat about your edit summaries as it's a little bug-bear of mine. Edit summaries are meant as a summary of the edit or perhaps a way of expressing your motive behind making an edit. Unfortunately, they are sometimes used as a method of general communication by some wikipedia users, which has a number of issues.
- As there is a limited character count, notes can often appear curt.
- There is no way of altering statements made if inaccurate
- The statements are not searchable.
In the case of Weston-Sub-Edge, the curt statements, especially this one can come across as rather bitey from my perspective, as we're looking at a new editor who appears to be doing a pretty good job. I don't think there's a massive issue, but I do think it's something to keep in mind. A guiding hand in a situation like this can go a long way. WormTT(talk) 13:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Worm That Turned: I came to that page - and that section in particular - because Lsces (talk · contribs) had previously renamed Weston-sub-Edge railway station to Weston Subedge railway station, a name not actually used by the railways (I moved it back, per WP:NCUKSTATIONS, because photos of the station nameboards (and indeed all reliable published sources) show the name hyphenated in that manner). At the section as I found it, I noticed that it had been written not so much as a summary of different spellings and hyphenations through history, but more as an attempt to assert what is "right" and discredit some sources. When I tried the four references within that section, I found that none of the first three supported the preceding text, and all four of them led to pages whose titles were significantly different from the link title that had been used. One was not a web page as such, but a search results page; and it is known that search results pages are not reliable sources, since their content is unstable. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Need help about a script: stubtagtab.js
Hi, Redrose64! I found your activity on this talk page and that is why I'm writing you here. I am mostly active on bh.wikipedia and wanted to use the above mentioned script for stub shorting. But, I am stuck at the very initial point and need some help because I know very little programming stuff. Would you please give some of your valuable time to help me??
I have copied this script on bh.wiki here and using it through globle.js and calling user:सत्यम् मिश्र/tagtest/Geography to get stubs for testing ! when I use this on en.wiki stub templates links load properly but on bh.wiki they are not loading as links. That is my problem. --Satyam Mishra --talk-- 14:48, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- @सत्यम् मिश्र: All I did was copy the whole of User:MC10/stubtagtab.js to User:Ais523/stubtagtab2.js. I don't know how it works. Have you tried asking MC10 (talk · contribs)? --Redrose64 (talk) 22:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
-
- I visited his talk page and found no recent activity, thus, thought he is not active these days. I have asked him now! Thank you for such a quick response! I will try to find solution.--Satyam Mishra --talk-- 01:39, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Croxley link talk
Apologies for my failing to remove that stray " from the Survey section. Thank you for cleaning it up! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 09:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Query: Correct redirecting
Hi User:Redrose64 - I noticed that you had deleted my request to delete the redirect that is present on the Susan Foreman article and I was hoping for some advice. Currently a search for 'Susan Campbell' redirects to Susan Foreman, which I think is incorrect, as there is no obvious link to Susan Foreman. There is another article on Susan M. Campbell, which I think should be what shows up when one searches 'Susan Campbell'. Obviously I've gone about this in the wrong way, but would appreciate any guidance on how to do it properly. Thanks in advance Fbell74 (talk) 06:42, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Fbell74: With this edit, you put the
{{db-g6}}
on the article Susan Foreman, not on a redirect; it was therefore a request to delete that article under WP:CSD#G6, which does not apply in any way. - If your intention was to get a redirect deleted, criteria specific to redirs are listed at WP:CSD#Redirects, but one or more of the general CSD criteria might apply. Try to avoid using G6 - when no other criteria fit, some people try to use this as a catch-all wildcard criterion, which it isn't.
{{db-move}}
is a case within G6, but it's best to use that as a follow-up to a successful discussion, such as a WP:RM. I assume that you are thinking of the redirect Susan Campbell - this is a long-established redirect (8 1⁄2 years since it was created), so it would be difficult to get any CSD criterion to stick without prior discussion. I would say that your best bet is to take it to WP:RFD. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:13, 19 September 2015 (UTC)- You're right - I put the note in the wrong area. I wasn't looking to have the 'Susan Foreman' article deleted at all, only the redirect from 'Susan Campbell', which takes visitors to the 'Susan Foreman' article. I'm unsure why it was set up like that in the first place but maybe there was a reason at the time. I'll follow your suggestion and see how it goes. Thanks for taking the time to respond Fbell74 (talk) 02:19, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Hi User:Redrose64 - I saw that you had closed off the request I raised because I'd submitted it in the wrong area. I couldn't reply on that page because that query is closed now, but sorry about that. I've resubmitted the request, but this time in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, as well as on the Talkpage of the actual page containing the redirect. Hopefully I've done it properly now. Thank you for your help with this.Fbell74 (talk) 02:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- No, you didn't do it properly. This is what you did: notice how the rendered page now shows
- {{subst:rfd|content=#REDIRECT Susan Campbell
- at the top - that "{{subst:" is a dead giveaway that something wasn't right; you also added an unwarranted
{{R from move}}
template which wasn't there before - the redirect wasn't created as a page move so that template should not have been added at all. If you had done it properly, it would look like 2018 NHL Entry Draft - notice how that has a box at the top explaining that the redirect is at RFD, that box also contains a link to the RFD discussion page. Yours did not. - The whole matter seems to have been resolved by Tavix (talk · contribs) who merely converted the redirect to a dab page, the sum of the edits being this. There was no need for any deletion. --Redrose64 (talk) 07:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- No, you didn't do it properly. This is what you did: notice how the rendered page now shows
- Hi User:Redrose64 - I saw that you had closed off the request I raised because I'd submitted it in the wrong area. I couldn't reply on that page because that query is closed now, but sorry about that. I've resubmitted the request, but this time in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, as well as on the Talkpage of the actual page containing the redirect. Hopefully I've done it properly now. Thank you for your help with this.Fbell74 (talk) 02:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- You're right - I put the note in the wrong area. I wasn't looking to have the 'Susan Foreman' article deleted at all, only the redirect from 'Susan Campbell', which takes visitors to the 'Susan Foreman' article. I'm unsure why it was set up like that in the first place but maybe there was a reason at the time. I'll follow your suggestion and see how it goes. Thanks for taking the time to respond Fbell74 (talk) 02:19, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello[edit]
No doubt you will all be devastated to hear that I won't be able to make it to Oxford tomorrow, so sorry about that. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi, and cheers for helping out so much. Thanks, Rubbish computer 00:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC) Rubbish computer 00:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Rubbish computer: Hi, yes, we had myself, Maproom (talk · contribs), Geni (talk · contribs), MinorProphet (talk · contribs), Thryduulf (talk · contribs), and Rich Farmbrough (talk · contribs). --Redrose64 (talk) 11:34, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Help us improve wikimeets by filling in the UK Wikimeet survey![edit]
Hello! I'm running a survey to identify the best way to notify Wikimedians about upcoming UK wikimeets (informal, in-person social meetings of Wikimedians), and to see if we can improve UK wikimeets to make them accessible and attractive to more editors and readers. All questions are optional, and it will take about 10 minutes to complete. Please fill it in at:
Thanks! Mike Peel (talk) 18:44, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
You missed it![edit]
While you were away yesterday, you missed all the drama over the Great Western Railway (train operating company) article. At least I was proved correct when I wrote this though. Mjroots (talk) 13:08, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
if we want a location map, it would be far better to add it to the code inside Template:Infobox GB station[edit]
You say "if we want a location map, it would be far better to add it to the code inside Template:Infobox GB station". You haven't done this, so why revert when it will do for now? Why get rid of progress? Why be such a rampant reverter and not even come to discuss it? Rcsprinter123 (prattle) 19:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- There are some 2000 railway stations in the UK, and that's not counting Underground, Metrolink and so on. Why waste time hand-crafting a location map for each one of those, when all you should need to do is set one parameter (perhaps two) on each article? Have you forgotten what happened back in January 2011, when edits like this meant that several of us than had to go around cleaning up after you?
- As with those edits in 2011, you are making a lot of pointless edits, each of which adds a lot of markup to the infobox, most of which simply does not need to be there at all. You are also adding redundant information: the
{{Infobox GB station}}
template already has parameters for latitude and longitude, so there should be no need to duplicate those. - Before adding location maps to articles, you should have initiated a discussion, at (say) WT:UKRAIL; if there was consensus, somebody (not necessarily myself) would have suggested incorporating location map code directly into
{{Infobox GB station}}
in such a way that article editing would have been kept to a minimum. - Templates like
{{Infobox London station}}
generate a location map using the|latitude=
and|longitude=
parameters as a minimum requirement; two further optional parameters (|map_type=
and|label_position=
) exist, but in no case is it necessary to have a whole{{location map}}
. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:22, 21 September 2015 (UTC)- You do make a few good points. I was did think about putting a parameter for it straight into Temokate:Infobox GB station beforehand, but I only have a base map for Greater Manchester, which is only a chunk of the whole network, so I thought it would be easier to addition manually. Do you support, in principle, adding maps to station infoboxes? Rcsprinter123 (pronounce) 22:26, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- In principle, yes (see for example this edit to Dartford railway station); but with caution. A location map will add height to the infobox, and in some railway station articles (e.g. Hattersley, Godley, Flowery Field) the infobox is already so tall that it causes a large blank space at the bottom, in the "External links" section. So maps should only be added if they will not cause further imbalance and so give ammunition to the anti-infobox brigade.
- But before general addition of maps commences, a central discussion should be held - either at WT:UKRAIL or at Template talk:Infobox GB station as to whether it's desirable. See for example Template talk:Infobox Manchester Metrolink station#Rewrite, plus new features. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:43, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- You do make a few good points. I was did think about putting a parameter for it straight into Temokate:Infobox GB station beforehand, but I only have a base map for Greater Manchester, which is only a chunk of the whole network, so I thought it would be easier to addition manually. Do you support, in principle, adding maps to station infoboxes? Rcsprinter123 (pronounce) 22:26, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
User:Promptsecretariat[edit]
Promptsecretariat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · logs · block log · arb · rfc · lta · SPI) Can you as an admin do something about this new user? All edits so far are racist vandalism. Admits to being anti-Jewish on user page. -- Alarics (talk) 10:20, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Alarics: Surely it's better to report such matters on a noticeboard, rather than the user talk page of one admin? --Redrose64 (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- I feared you might say that. I did have a look but it's not very clear to the uninitiated which noticeboard or what exactly one is supposed to do. I asked you because I know you are familiar with these things and you have helped me out before. Do you at least agree that some action is required in this case? -- Alarics (talk) 11:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Advice on warning users for unconstructive edits[edit]
Do you think the warning I gave to the user for his unconstructive edit on Radiochemistry was suitable? Thanks. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:05, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Leeds United FC fan: Yes, except that you used
{{Uw-vandalism1|Radiochemistry}}
where you should have used{{subst:uw-vandalism1|Radiochemistry}}
--Redrose64 (talk) 20:11, 1 October 2015 (UTC)- Thanks. I'll remember to use the substitution template in future. Leeds United FC fan (talk) 20:12, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Llanpumpsaint station on the Carmarthen to Aberystwyth line template/ line diagram[edit]
Many thanks indeed for your speedy reversion to Llanpumpsaint. Had the other name of Llanpumsaint ever appeared on that particular line diagram (which is mostly repeated on that of the Manchester and Milford Railway one) or ever appeared on any previous editions of it? I am sure that I saw the name somewhere, but now cannot recall where.
Paul Sidorczuk (talk) 07:55, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Paul Sidorczuk: The locality is Llanpumsaint with one "p" but the station was always Llanpumpsaint with an extra "p". I don't have any books specifically dealing with the Carmarthen and Cardigan Railway. But see for example
- Butt, R. V. J. (1995). The Directory of Railway Stations: details every public and private passenger station, halt, platform and stopping place, past and present (1st ed.). Sparkford: Patrick Stephens Ltd. p. 146. ISBN 1-8526-0508-1. OCLC 60251199.
- Holden, J.S. (2007) [1979]. The Manchester & Milford Railway. The Oakwood Library of Railway History (2nd ed.). Usk: Oakwood Press. p. 60. ISBN 978-0-85361-658-0. OL50. (reproduction of GWR 1882 timetable)
- MacDermot, E.T. (1931). History of the Great Western Railway, vol. II: 1863-1921. Paddington: Great Western Railway. p. 341. OCLC 55853736.
with an intermediate station at Llanpumpsaint
- Price, Martin R. Connop (1995). The Lampeter, Aberayron and New Quay Light Railway. Locomotion Papers. Headington: Oakwood Press. p. 43. ISBN 0-85361-480-6. LP191. (reproductions of two GWR posters advertising cheap tickets to Lampeter)
- For the names of railway station articles, we don't use the name of the locality but the name that was actually used by the railway company, and shown on station signs and in timetables. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (UK stations). --Redrose64 (talk) 08:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Contractions are common in placenames. It's surprising that the explanation of the name in the Llanpumsaint article doesn't simply say that pump is the Welsh word for five, even though it does mention the five saints. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:31, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Paul Sidorczuk: There should be a photo of the station, including its signage, in
- Mitchell, Victor E.; Smith, Keith (February 2011). Aberystwyth to Carmarthen. Western Main Lines. Midhurst: Middleton Press. figures 57-58. ISBN 978-1-906008-90-1.
- unfortunately I don't have a copy. It's available here.
- @Martinevans123: Railway companies that were ostensibly Welsh often had English shareholders, directors and management. Ignorant of the Welsh language they would anglicise Welsh place names - or simply mis-spell them - without understanding the words and syllables, or the significant change in meaning that a subtle alteration - like adding one letter - can make. As Price notes in The Lampeter, Aberayron and New Quay Light Railway (p. 37) concerning the halt close to Neuaddlwyd, "Never very sensitive towards either the Welsh language or Welsh spellings, the authorities at Paddington disregarded local objections and called the new platform 'Llanerch Ayron'." It was located at 52°13′04″N 4°13′59″W / 52.2178°N 4.2331°W, and there is a nearby village Llanerchaeron. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:59, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, how things have changed! Martinevans123 (talk) 11:04, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Paul Sidorczuk: There should be a photo of the station, including its signage, in
- (talk page stalker) Contractions are common in placenames. It's surprising that the explanation of the name in the Llanpumsaint article doesn't simply say that pump is the Welsh word for five, even though it does mention the five saints. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:31, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Extra 'via' stations on Horsham station[edit]
I've just been looking at recent edits made to Horsham station by Railway56 and notice that when previous almost identical edits were being made by a user called Towns21 (who incidentally stopped editing at the same time as Railway56 started) they were reverted. Since you were involved then, are you able to help me work out if these need reverting again now? Thanks. - Shrewdoliver (talk) 16:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Shrewdoliver: Railway56 (talk · contribs) has done this before. When reverted, they WP:EW and include the phrase "but not excessive" in the edit summary. They simply won't be told. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:43, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Anna Bråkenhielm[edit]
On 3 October 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anna Bråkenhielm, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the reality entertainment concept Expedition Robinson (also known as Survivor) was bought by CEO Anna Bråkenhielm and aired on Swedish television in 1997? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Anna Bråkenhielm. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:12, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: How do I qualify? All I did was two edits: add DEFAULTSORT and fix a link. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:18, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- BabbaQ added credits for you and several other editors with this edit. It appears s/he figured that was enough for credit. Afterwards said credit templates were copied over into the preparatory areas and queues. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:23, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Plots[edit]
You recemtly sent the following message to me. "Please see WP:TVPLOT "As a rough guide, summaries for episode articles should be about 200 to 500 words." Therefore, please only remove {{plot}}
if it is shorter than 500 words".
First, the suggested summary length quoted is only a rough guide and not prescriptive. Second, the articles I have removed {{plot}}
from are not episode articles, they are serial articles covering multiple episodes. Third, I am using WP:WikiProject Doctor Who/Manual of style as my guide. The section 'Episode pages/Plot/Synopsis' states: “A concise but legible summary of the episode written from the real-life perspective. A common length is approximately ten words per minute, however this can be lengthened in the case of a complicated plot”. So, for The Daleks' Master Plan, for instance, that’s 12 episides at 25 minutes each = 300 minutes x 10 words/minute = 3000 words. At the time of writing the plot summary for this article contains 1301 words. So on that basis it’s well within bounds, the use of {{plot}}
is unjustified and that's why it has been removed from the article and others like it where similar circumstances prevail. 86.174.107.13 (talk) 15:58, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Template:Gutenberg author[edit]
Hi Redrose. I have rewritten the template in WP:Lua, seen at Module:Gutenberg - it adds a new feature, the ID can be either a name or a number (the later goes direct to the author page bypassing the search result page). The testcases page is Template:Gutenberg author/testcases where it verifies. This is a simple template with no options besides "id" and "name" so it won't break existing instances. The template is protected and I don't have permissions to edit. Since you have helped in the past, would you be able to change the template to what is currently at Template:Gutenberg author/sandbox? Replace this line:
- [//www.gutenberg.org/author/{{{1|{{{id|{{PAGENAMEE}}}}}}}} Works by {{{2|{{{name|{{PAGENAMEBASE}}}}}}}}] at [[Project Gutenberg]]
With this line:
- <includeonly>{{#invoke:Gutenberg|author}}</includeonly>
-- GreenC 19:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Green Cardamom: Sorry, but I cannot assist in converting a template from a form which I do understand to one that I don't. As a computer programmer I feel that those who write or amend code should be responsible for its maintenance: if I carry out that edit I will be placing myself in the position of being unable to assist should any problem arise. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Umm... can you remove the protection so I can do it? Or give me the perms? I'm an experienced programmer and have written other templates. -- GreenC 23:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- I opened an edit request. Since you answered the other edit request, can you help again? You are not responsible for the code, the code is my responsibility. If there is a problem with the code it is with the Lua module which I will take care of. The template page is basically just a redirect to the Lua Module:Gutenberg. But believe me, there is no problem. -- GreenC 00:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Umm... can you remove the protection so I can do it? Or give me the perms? I'm an experienced programmer and have written other templates. -- GreenC 23:55, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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em-dashes, en-dash & advisor.js
Thanks for correcting my em-dashes and en-dash (although I've never understood why this is important) I used User:Cameltrader/Advisor while fixing some reference CS1 issues. It might be worth talking to the developer/operator of that tool to stop it inserting the wrong ones (if they are wrong but as I say I can't see any difference).— Rod talk 20:24, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- On the rendered page, em-dashes (—) are normally twice as long as en-dashes (–). In the edit window, there isn't much difference, if any - it will depend upon the fonts installed on your computer. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- OK maybe its the fonts I have as I don't see any difference. I'll just not use the advisor tool and leave the error message I get from it above the edit window telling me that they need changing.— Rod talk 20:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- Judging by comments at User talk:Cameltrader/Advisor, the script maintainer hasn't been around for some years. It's not likely to be fixed. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
- OK maybe its the fonts I have as I don't see any difference. I'll just not use the advisor tool and leave the error message I get from it above the edit window telling me that they need changing.— Rod talk 20:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Cross section of cleanup category & WikiProjects
Hey Redrose, do you know of a way to get a list of articles tagged for a category (e.g., Articles needing cleanup) within a specific WikiProject? The former is tagged on the article page and the latter is tagged on the talk page, so CatScan doesn't do an easy cross section, as far as I can tell. Open to suggestions czar 01:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I do this with Catscan. Here's a link to a search that looked within some copy-editing tracking categories for articles with a WP Biography template on their Talk page.
- Remember to also check for aliases of the template that you are looking for (using What links here in your left nav bar). – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:54, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Aha, I see! Took a few tries to get it to run, but it's doing what I want. Thanks so much! czar 13:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
St Austell railway station
Just wondered if you realised that First Great Western have re-branded themselves as Great Western Railway when you reverted at St Austell railway station? Poltair (talk) 06:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Poltair: Yes, I do; what you probably didn't notice is that Merlinhst7 (talk · contribs) broke links when they edited that page, as well as introducing totally unnecessary
<br>
tags. I've been cleaning up after them. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:52, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Category: Assyrian (Ashuri) script
The current category should definitely stay, insofar that it is the correct term and designation for our modern Hebrew script, whereas the original script was the Paleo-Hebrew script. This is evident in all of the writings of the Mishnah and Talmud, and is well-known by those who are engaged Judaic studies.Davidbena (talk) 14:44, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Davidbena: No, the simple fact is that you put the category inside itself, and gave it no parents other than itself. This is not how we categorise categories. See WP:SUPERCAT "Category chains formed by parent–child relationships should never form closed loops; that is, no category should be contained as a subcategory of one of its own subcategories." --Redrose64 (talk) 19:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- So, the parent category should be "Semitic languages."Davidbena (talk) 20:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- It's not a category for a language, but a category for a script or writing system: therefore at least one of its parent categories should be a broader category for scripts or writing systems. See for example Category:Arabic script which has five parent categories, amongst these are Category:Abjad writing systems, Category:Semitic writing systems and Category:Writing systems derived from the Phoenician. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- The best choice would be the parent category, Category:Semitic writing systems. Good luck!Davidbena (talk) 00:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- It's not a category for a language, but a category for a script or writing system: therefore at least one of its parent categories should be a broader category for scripts or writing systems. See for example Category:Arabic script which has five parent categories, amongst these are Category:Abjad writing systems, Category:Semitic writing systems and Category:Writing systems derived from the Phoenician. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- So, the parent category should be "Semitic languages."Davidbena (talk) 20:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Bournemouth station
Hi, thanks for pointing out that error in the image caption box, I don't know what I did, but obviously didn't finish writing what I wanted to write! Jack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellminsterboy (talk • contribs) 09:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Birmingham meetup
Hi there! Did you know that there will be a meetup in Birmingham on the 15th of November?
There hasn't been many meetups in Birmingham. I will be passing through on the 15th of November, so I thought I would see who fancied meeting up, while I'm in the area. I'm leaving this message on your talk page because you have previously expressed an interest in a meetup in Birmingham or Coventry. Yaris678 (talk) via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2015 (UTC) |
Ronny Lee
"first name spelled with 'y', not 'ie', on the end": Thanks, I have now italicized it, since writing "Ronnie Lee" instead of "Ronny Lee" is an error that even some of the referenced articles about him made (and he didn't like it, because "Ronnie" usually used to be short for "Veronica").
"Years" in "Early years" section header: Thanks, I have now done the same for "Later years" section header.
"D'Angelico": I have now put back the link in "D'Angelico guitar", but intentionally made it to D'Angelico--not to D'Angelico Guitars--since RL's guitar was made before 1964 (1927 + 14 = 1941) and that article more-accurately describes its features.
"Unpreparing for War" in Daugherty ref.: I have now put the phrase in single quotes, since you don't like double-quotes in ref. title--but they are double-quotes in title of Daugherty's paper.
"[sic]" to " [sic]": Thanks, I didn't know that existed.
DovidBenAvraham (talk) 11:39, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
A cup of tea for you!
With this ever dramatic world including WikiDrama, here's a cup of tea to alleviate your day! This e-tea's remains have been e-composted SwisterTwister talk 07:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC) |
- Thank you --Redrose64 (talk) 07:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Redlinks
Ah, dammit. I usually catch those myself when they happen - I don't know how I missed those.
I'll fix them right away; thanks for bringing them to my attention. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Taken care of. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 00:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Image
Hi. I have been trying to make the infobox image on Harry Potter and the Cursed Child appear larger, but don't seem to be able to. Is there something I'm missing. Maybe its not possible.Blethering Scot 21:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
{{Infobox play}}
doesn't recognise|image_size=
, nor is there any equivalent. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:39, 23 October 2015 (UTC)- damn thats really annoying. Image doesn't display properly at that size. I see it was removed here, but i dont see consensus for it on the talk page of the template. Do u know if discussions were held elsewhere.Blethering Scot 13:00, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- Have you asked Alakzi (talk · contribs) why that change was made? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:12, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- I will ping him on template talk page. Someone else has asked the same question.Blethering Scot 21:35, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- Could u do me a favour. Could u look at the template talk page and explain to me what he means by you can change image size by using |image_upright= . I just am not getting how I can use that peramater to increase size.Blethering Scot 19:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- Replied at Template talk:Infobox play#Image size option. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:22, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Could u do me a favour. Could u look at the template talk page and explain to me what he means by you can change image size by using |image_upright= . I just am not getting how I can use that peramater to increase size.Blethering Scot 19:48, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- I will ping him on template talk page. Someone else has asked the same question.Blethering Scot 21:35, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- Have you asked Alakzi (talk · contribs) why that change was made? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:12, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- damn thats really annoying. Image doesn't display properly at that size. I see it was removed here, but i dont see consensus for it on the talk page of the template. Do u know if discussions were held elsewhere.Blethering Scot 13:00, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Beats of Rage -Protection Request
Please, protect Beats of Rage from anonymous users because uncontrolled editwar of the mad 31.173.243.24 and it's offsprings (I am the Recent changes patroller and I've caught that IP by the tail, but I can't block it)! I am suffering from his vandalistic edits. Natsume96 (talk) 12:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Natsume96: requests for increases to a page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:55, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Halloween cheer!
Bristol Temple Meads railway station
Hi Redrose64, thanks for correcting my image placement, this is my first day on Wikipedia! BristolIcarus (talk) 22:59, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Oxford - Marylebone
I had just realised that I had gotten ahead of reality and had begun to repair the damage. Sorry if I've wasted your time. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:09, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- @John Maynard Friedman: I'm at Oxford station most weeks, last visit was Thurs 29 Oct, next is Tues 3 Nov. The replacement bus service is still running but instead of being Oxford to Islip and Bicester, it's now Oxford to Oxford Parkway. The proposed lengthening of platform 3 (and the conversion of the parcels dock to passenger plat) has not yet commenced. Engineers are still working on the track from Oxford North Junction northwards. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:16, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- I can partly blame sloppy reporting in the media but I really ought to have asked questions first and shot second.--John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Bicester - Bletchley
Hi Redrose, have you seen East West Rail delivery could be delayed by seven years (rail technology magazine, 03.11.15). Any idea what the proposed rephrasing is? It talks about 'phase 2' being Bicester - Bedford, but we already know that electrification of Bletchley - Bedford is 'planned but not scheduled', so it's hardly that. What we really need to know is this - is Bicester - Bletchley now 'phase 2a' and Risboro' - Aylesbury - Claydon Jn now 'phase 2b'? Or something else? Whether or which, we need a source that is less vague than this to qualify as a citeable wp:rs. Expletive deleted journalists --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 18:51, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
- I shot an innocent bystander again. Rail Technology was just reprinting this press release from the East West Rail consortium. Perhaps they have political reasons to conflate Bicester - Bletchley with Bletchley - Bedford? Was it ever likely that these two sub-projects would go ahead in parallel rather than sequentially? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:58, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Reversions
Disrupting Wikipedia
Please note you have made the same reversion to this article at least 5 times in a row now, over the last few days, despite there being ongoing discussion. If you continue to do this you will be banned from editing Wikipedia. --Rebroad (talk) 13:17, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- What is "this article"? Please state which one you have in mind. If you don't like what I do, you are free to take me to WP:ANI. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
You know full well which article I am referring to - the one we are currently talking about. But, if it pleases you:-
Greetings. At least one of your recent edits, such as the edit you made to Double jeopardy, did not appear to be constructive and has been or will be reverted or removed. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make some test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. --Rebroad (talk) 15:32, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
- @Rebroad: At first that was the article that I assumed that you meant. But I looked at its history, and found that I had made four edits in a week, not "at least 5 times in a row now, over the last few days". To get the count up to 5, we need to go back to 23 September 2015, where I restored two templates that were apparently removed inadvertently by Sc0187 (talk · contribs) in this series of edits. As for "ongoing discussion", the only one that I am aware of is on your talk page, so you are just as aware of it as I am, so I could call you on WP:EW for four edits to Double jeopardy in well under two hours, every single one of which was a revert. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:46, 5 November 2015 (UTC)