User talk:Johnlp/Archive 1 to the end of 2006
User talk:Johnlp/Archive 2 to the end of 2007 and a bit beyond
User talk:Johnlp/Archive 3 to December 2009
User talk:Johnlp/Archive 4 to December 2012
Contents
- 1 Alexander Allen
- 2 Something
- 3 Oh no, it's him again!
- 4 Re: A thought
- 5 DYK nomination of Dickie Dodds
- 6 DYK nomination of Dickie Dodds
- 7 Why did I let people know I have lots of Wisdens? Especially that Sarastro...
- 8 DYK for Dickie Dodds
- 9 Talkback
- 10 G. B. Lee
- 11 Billy Frank (producer)
- 12 Proposed deletion of Billy Frank (producer)
- 13 Quinton
- 14 Page
- 15 Help required : Talk:Hugh Bartlett
- 16 Somerset cricket task force
- 17 Apologies
- 18 David Kirby et al
- 19 Elliot
- 20 November 2013
- 21 A passing note
- 22 Merry Christmas
- 23 CUCC list
- 24 Aargh, it's him!
- 25 List of Leicestershire CCC players
- 26 Re: Albert or Alfred
- 27 Oops!
- 28 Glamorgan list
- 29 Rules
- 30 Page protection
- 31 May 2014
- 32 DYK for Arthur Coleridge
- 33 Tyrwhitt-Drakes
- 34 Want a good laugh?
- 35 That's new!
- 36 Brocklebank
- 37 November 2014
- 38 Precious
- 39 South Africa 1970
- 40 Edward Walter Clark, Jr.
- 41 Sorry if I have asked you this before...
- 42 Peter Cazalet
- 43 DYK for Peter Cazalet (racehorse trainer)
- 44 Reid
- 45 List talk page tag
- 46 Brooks
- 47 Anthony Gibson
- 48 Norman Reid
- 49 ArbCom elections are now open!
- 50 ArbCom elections are now open!
Alexander Allen
Cheers for the notification. Should we simply redirect Alexander to Sandy? Bobo. 12:56, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Something
The Railways Barnstar | ||
For you help with the tedious rail usage figures. Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years |
I've been meaning to give this to you for a while. Keep up the good work. Simply south...... walking into bells for just 6 years 16:28, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Oh no, it's him again!
On the subject of Leyland, I'm a bit light on material for his early career. I've got Wisden up until the 1925 edition, but nothing after until he plays Test cricket apart from the odd fragment of Cardus and from the Times. I'd be extremely grateful if you could do a quick Wisden trawl for 1925-28, and particularly for the MCC tour of India in 1926-27. And of course, anything else you may have! No urgency on this one, just if or when you have the time and inclination. And I may be back for his later career as there were a few seasons when he began very poorly then scored ridiculously heavily in July and August. Cheers! Sarastro1 (talk) 11:51, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- I don't have Gibson's book, so that would be great. I'm afraid I don't have the Dodd's book, or anything else on him. Sarastro1 (talk) 16:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for all that. And the Wisden stuff is actually more useful than it looks. I may be back, cap in hand, before too long! Cheers. Sarastro1 (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
- Really specific one this time! Leyland bowled far more in 1928 than ever before: the obvious explanation being the death of Roy Kilner. I don't suppose Wisden mentions this explicitly for the 1928 season? Sarastro1 (talk) 22:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Still in the 1929 edition, the Cricinfo copy of Leyland's cricketer of the year citation says "and a fine forcing game when it is necessary to make runs quietly", which doesn't really make sense. Could you check the original to see if it should say "quickly"? And if it does, what is the page number of the article, and I might change the citation to the paper copy. Sorry to be a pest, but the sourcing should improve from 1928 onwards! Sarastro1 (talk) 22:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Really specific one this time! Leyland bowled far more in 1928 than ever before: the obvious explanation being the death of Roy Kilner. I don't suppose Wisden mentions this explicitly for the 1928 season? Sarastro1 (talk) 22:21, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for all that. And the Wisden stuff is actually more useful than it looks. I may be back, cap in hand, before too long! Cheers. Sarastro1 (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Re: A thought
Yes indeed, I'm certainly better described as more active than I am retired! That sounds like a plan with the names, I'll also add the obscure ones to disambiguation pages. I remember doing the lists of Hampshire players a couple of years back, which took an absolute age, it is a long term plan to get one done for all global first-class teams (daunting). I hope those orphan bots don't become as annoying as my old friend the CorenSearchBot! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 23:35, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Dickie Dodds
Hello! Your submission of Dickie Dodds at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Nyttend (talk) 06:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Dickie Dodds
Hello! Your submission of Dickie Dodds at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Senra (talk) 21:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Why did I let people know I have lots of Wisdens? Especially that Sarastro...
I found this on Leyland, and it's rather good. However, there is no author given. I don't suppose you could check who wrote it? And in which case, I probably need the page reference as well... Sarastro1 (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
- That's odd. I thought you bought them to provide me with obscure page references on Yorkshire cricketers in the 1928 season. All my illusions have been shattered. Sarastro1 (talk) 23:10, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
DYK for Dickie Dodds
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
Talkback
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G. B. Lee
Hi John, I asked User:CDTPP if he has anything and he replied with the following. He's new to site and has limited access at present.
Only that he was a private tutor. And from Winchester register. 1861-1903. Rev. Godfrey Bolles Lee, b. 19 March, 1817, 7th s. of Robert Newton Lee, Esq., of Coldrey, Hants. Sch. Win. Coll. 1830; Sch. New Coll. Oxon 1834, Fellow 1836-61, B.A. 1839, M.A. 1844 [University XI. 1838-9, Capt. 1839], College Tutor Win. Coll. 1839-60, Bursar New Coll. 1860-1 ; elected Warden 1861 p 1846. m 5 April, 1866, Emma Nunez, y. d. of Andrew Fergushill Crawford, Esq., M.D., of Winchester. IB 29 Jan., 1903. Inscription in Cloisters. His Son AM Lee was an academic on Micrometry and he published a standard work. His daughter married the son of General Alexander Russell.
Hope this all helps you. Regards. ----Jack | talk page 17:26, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
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Quinton
Wonderful ! Tintin 13:24, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Page
Thanks, it was doing funny things for me! Sarastro1 (talk) 19:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
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Help required : Talk:Hugh Bartlett
Two sources contradict about how many Peter Smith conceded. Does the match report say anything ? Tintin 04:30, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
Somerset cricket task force
I know you've got plenty to keep yourself occupied with, but I thought I'd let you know that I've set up a "task force" for articles relating to Somerset County Cricket Club. It's mostly somewhere to take stock of what there is, and what needs improving. Given your work on Somerset articles in the past, I thought it might interest you. Harrias talk 16:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Apologies
Dear Johnlp,
I must apologise for barging in on your work on David Kirby. I hadn't checked to see whether anybody had been working on him recently, and when I looked at the history (after I'd done my bit) I was mortified to see that you had just created his page and were still going.
Please forgive my breach of etiquette. You might find some of my contribution useful; otherwise please feel at liberty to ditch the rest.
It was especially mortifying to me, as I admire your work. Apart from obvious love of the game and respect for the players, you bring a level of literacy and a sense of proportion that are rare among cricket Wikipedians.
Regards,
Sammyrice (talk) 00:33, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
David Kirby et al
- Thanks for that reassuring message. You will note the date discrepancy from the two Wisdens: did he start in 1963 or 1968? I'll leave that there for a future researcher to solve. As you say, there is so much to do; plenty of work for all of us. I'll try to be careful not to tread on toes in future. But there is still the Battle of Chris Duckworth to be fought...
Sammyrice (talk) 03:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Elliot
The CU player was listed in the ACS guide to CU cricketers as Sir George Elliot 1812 to 1901 one of several Sir George Elliots including the contemporaneous industrialist. The scotish birthdate came later and put him a year younger but it was not a requirement to be in residence to play(IG Peck and JM Brearley) for the university and still isn't. Only the University match requires that qualification. The more famous Admiral Elliot was Scotish and I presume the Admiral GA Elliot, his son was the cricketer - it is too much of a co-incidence otherwise. P Bailey who compiles CA is impossible to shift if he believes something and I presume he has not seen a birth certificate and thus has not appended the 'Augustus' second name. Were GA Elliot a naval officer, he would have attended Dartmouth rather than Cambridge. By the age of 20-23 he would have likely been at sea in command of something. My father in law was a Surgeon Commander and he has free access to the Navy list but it will be December before I see him though I can get him on Skype in about a fortnight (he's on holiday at present). The issue with CA has always been that PB is unwilling to trust all but a few contributors if he himself has not seen the evidence at first hand. Hold on - by chance I have a list or two her and the one for 1848 lists him(on raising to rank of Admiral (age 36) as George Elliot - the Augustus may have been a later affectation. I would say the Admiral G Elliot is certainly the cricketer from 1831. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CDTPP (talk • contribs) 13:14, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
November 2013
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A passing note
The discussion on WT:CRIC reminded me that I meant to mention how much I enjoy the stuff that you do quietly on here. I particularly liked looking over Walter Keeton, but you always seem to be up to something worthwhile! There seem to be so few people on the cricket project these days, unfortunately. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:56, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Information on offer.
Hello. I've done only very simple Wiki editing in the past. It is because I've been a keen lifelong family historian that I collected information about William Meryweather because at one time it seemed he might have had some connection to my own Merryweather [sic] family. If anyone would like this miscellaneous material in order to supplement the article, it's freely available from:-
iopas.1@virgin.net Segilla (talk) 22:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
oops
Merry Christmas
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CUCC list
Hey, apologies. I'd already done substantial work fore I realised you were on same task. Had to decide whether to abandon or carry on. As I had the dates, went ahead. Your list was nearly complete except for the Ws and I had those. A lot of them too! All I needed was the wikinames and I followed your lead on those. I'm doing both unis, Oxford same format – dates, scorecard version of name and then the wikiname. Wikinames hold things up. Each has to be checked for existing use. Well, cool, apologies again. Hope Xmas is good and wish you the best in 2014. --Bill (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Aargh, it's him!
Belated season's greetings, and another request, I'm afraid. I'm looking to see if the Abe Waddington article can be beefed up a little, having found some nice juicy scandal about him in the Yorkshire Post just after the War. With that in mind, I think his playing career needs de-statsing to get away from the list of numbers. I'd be ever so grateful if you could check the 1920, 1927, and 1928 Yorkshire summary in Wisden. And maybe the 1929 for good measure. I have the Willows versions of the rest, and get the impression that poor old Abe was not too highly thought of. So any snippets, even just "he was dreadful" would be useful. Cheers! Sarastro1 (talk) 00:19, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
List of Leicestershire CCC players
Hey and thanks for your help with this. Much appreciated. I can't see wood for trees. Made a point of removing all who played in the war only and didnt think to alter dates of those who started or finished in the war! Must check other lists to correct same oversight if there. Not too many redlinks in foxy land, unlike Lancs and others. Cool. Thanks again. --Bill (talk) 07:43, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Re: Albert or Alfred
I would be inclined to move the article to A. E. Bailey, and provide both possibilities for his first name, unless we find a third source (that isn't a mirror or copy from one of the others) that clarifies one way or the other. I would be inclined to agree that CA is more likely to be right, but given that he would have been referred to by his initials during his career, this seems the safest way to go for now. Harrias talk 10:21, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Oops!
What edit? There was no edit. What are you talking about???? (Furtive glances around...) Sarastro1 (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Glamorgan list
Hey, thanks for correcting the date. You highlighted fundamental problem with templates there! It had been adjusted for Essex and then not for Glamorgan. Dough (or whatever)! Anyway. Done with lists and redlinks now. Away for a month from next week and then start something else when I come back. Probably Sydney Barnes. Doing a bit on Syd Brown in meantime but short of time now. Thank you for your help in last few months. Much appreciated. Hope to pick up with you again in March. Best. --Bill (talk) 08:19, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
Rules
Just a word. The administrators on this site are useless so I'll be doing my own policing.GeorgeGrady (talk) 13:27, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't know who you are, though you are of course welcome to comment on my talk page. If your words are meant to imply some form of threat towards me and my activities on WP, then I fear you may have come to the wrong place, because you should know that I really don't bother with that kind of nonsense. Johnlp (talk) 16:07, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi, an admin User:NativeForeigner has been conducting a little investigation via the checkuser tool and, guess what, has found that User:GeorgeGrady is yet another example of Guess Who? He must be raising his bat for a double century by now, surely. I won't do anything with the above nonsense but the best thing you can do, as previously advised, is to summarily remove any and all suspicious messages on your talk page, and anywhere else you see them, per WP:DENY, WP:RBI and WP:BMB. I'm checking out tour articles at present, and busy in real life, so not editing much but will put something about tours on CRIC before long. Bye now. HCCC14 (talk) 22:15, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
- I shall feel very safe now knowing that both of you are policing my page so closely and acting, of course, with my very best interests at heart. Particularly as I'm not around much for the next week or so. Johnlp (talk) 09:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Page protection
I can well understand the frustration you have expressed above (your post on 31 March) but if you had taken steps to get this page protected you would not have to put up with frequent visits from a site-banned user whose purpose is to disrupt the cricket project and make personal attacks on several of its members, using your page as a "safe haven" for his activities. His last post here was removed by an admin (see page history) and I have taken the step of formally requesting page protection here.
Page protection would have minimal to no impact on you because it merely prevents IPs and non-registered users from using the page. Apart from the banned user, your page history shows that no one other than autoregistered users has ever been here. If this page is protected, you will be able to use the site in peace. HCCC14 (talk) 18:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Just relax. There's no need to worry about this ongoing disruption. It's trivial. Your concern is noted, as was your serious concern for Harrias and his block. Now I suggest you let us deal with this and do something else, more productive. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
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Tyrwhitt-Drakes
Hi. Firstly, if you don't already know, I replied to your comments on my talk page yesterday. Secondly, I thought you might find this article interesting; it's about the family and their association with Cricket [1]. Thanks, --Noswall59 (talk) 17:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC).
Want a good laugh?
Try this one. It's the section right at the bottom of the page. Sorry, I really shouldn't be talking to myself, should I? Hope you are okay. All the best. Jack | talk page 11:58, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- Oh dear, it gets worse. Somerset connection, I suppose, but apart from that... I was once bracketed with Sarastro because of the Yorkshire connection although I could never match him as a writer. It's never-ending but, as Churchill used to say, we just KBO. :-) All the best. Jack | talk page 12:13, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
That's new!
I didn't realize people could thank each other for their edits. I should spend some more time around here.
Thank you for liking my comment! I suppose in one sense it's a much quicker way of making it obvious that people have seen a post. Bobo. 10:47, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- Every time an inclusion debate comes around, it brings me back to the "One-Test wonder" debate. If it were up to me, there would be an article entitled "List of cricketers with 13 Test appearances"... "..37 Test appearances"... "122 Test appearances"... etc! ;) But then, I'm like that! Bobo. 11:30, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Brocklebank
Thanks, John. That must be double figures for me now!! I've added his stats summary to the original and applied for CSD of the new one. Oh, and thanks for correcting the list entry too. All the best. Jack | talk page 17:36, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
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Precious
older periods of cricket
Thank you, veteran editor with the background of "a lifetime of watching cricket and a 110-year collection of Wisden", for quality articles on cricketers from Colin McCool to Charles Norman, termed "marvellous work on the older periods of cricket", for a modest user page concentrating on projects, for admiring "consistently wise and courteous" - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
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A year ago, you were recipient no. 1059 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
South Africa 1970
The party was selected and the fixtures listed. It is a cancelled tour and therefore requires a listing. Bearing in mind the fuss it caused, it really does need one, at least from the political viewpoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.220.123 (talk) 15:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, maybe, but perhaps not in the same series as other tours, where we used the "X team in Y in 0000" convention: there never was a "South African cricket team in England in 1970" so that title would be wrong. I'm not averse to a separate article on "The South African cricket tour of England in 1970" or some such, or to it being a subsection under the more general article about the apartheid boycott which really began to take effect from that point. Why don't you start one or other? Johnlp (talk) 16:22, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Edward Walter Clark, Jr.
I added everything I could from the Edward Walter Clark, Jr. obituary. If you think I added too much, just delete some. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 20:04, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Sorry if I have asked you this before...
But is there a good reason why you're not an admin? --Dweller (talk) 09:40, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
- Harrias' mention of User:Dweller/Dweller's law reminded me how much I value you and JH as sensible, cool heads. I understand your response. If you ever change your mind, drop me a line, and a shiny nomination will be yours. --Dweller (talk) 12:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Peter Cazalet
Do you have a ref for that info please? Mjroots (talk) 21:23, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the additions. I've removed the claim about him turning down the captaincy. From what is now written, it does seem unlikely, and no date is given in the source. It is likely that this is a case of embellishing the truth a bit. Mjroots (talk) 05:52, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Peter Cazalet (racehorse trainer)
Thanks from me and the DYK project. Victuallers (talk) 16:17, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Reid
First, felt happy about it. Then felt weird about being happy about it ;-) Tintin 10:30, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
List talk page tag
I've put the workflow for the list talk page tag at User talk:SpacemanSpiff/Criclisttemplate and started work on the template, do let me know what you think, this is a preliminary version. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 18:59, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Brooks
And thanks to you. He's such an interesting character that finding out more about him has been fascinating. I'd heard of the Naughty Nineties, but it seems that the naughtiness began a lot earlier than that! JH (talk page) 21:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- This is fascinating, but as it's a blog probably not usable. The comments are worth reading too. JH (talk page) 09:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I've just found this, which I've downloaded and will search at my leisure. JH (talk page) 09:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
I think I've done about as much as I can now. Searching on Google Books for the books referenced in the article for the Sporting Times reveals that the 1924 book "Old Pink 'Un Days" by Booth, J. B. has a lot of mentions of our hero, but the snippets that are all that one is allowed to see are too brief to be of much use, and unfortunately I haven't been able to find an online edition. I suppose the book could still be under copyright. JH (talk page) 19:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. JH (talk page) 21:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Anthony Gibson
Do you think that Anthony Gibson counts as notable? I'm tempted to write an article on him, based on the information here, here and here. JH (talk page) 08:55, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I listened on=line to some of the commentary on that match, and as a Surrey supporter it was naturally very enjoyable. Anthony Gibson was one of the commentators, which was what led me to wondering if he should have an article. His voice sounds remarkably like his father's, if my memory is to be relied on; he's a good commentator, though without his father's streak of brilliance. JH (talk page) 17:52, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Norman Reid
Reid. Fixed, thanks. Tintin 07:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
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