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Contents
- 1 July 9
- 1.1 Inaccuracy & Breaching Copyright - VERMIPONICS
- 1.2 User rights logs
- 1.3 Cover
- 1.4 My number of edits
- 1.5 Magic word for username
- 1.6 Table of Contents
- 1.7 Semko Libadi
- 1.8 Trouble with WikiLove template
- 1.9 Healthways
- 1.10 Why was page "Ken Keeley" deleted
- 1.11 Deleted sections
- 1.12 Referencing errors on Fonzi Thornton
- 1.13 Problem with new mobile interface
- 2 July 10
- 2.1 Publish my draft article
- 2.2 Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
- 2.3 Image Upload - unconfirmed user
- 2.4 Inserting a Bio Banner with Pic and quick reference details
- 2.5 Binawari Williams Ajuwa
- 2.6 How to report a suspected republisher?
- 2.7 Question regarding speedy deletion of new page
- 2.8 American citizens living in Puerto rico.
- 2.9 Image Upload
- 2.10 Is this considered spam?
- 2.11 How can I rename or move this article?
- 2.12 translating an article to another language
- 3 July 11
- 3.1 Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
- 3.2 Please sign your post by typing four tildes.
- 3.3 Where to report de.wikivoyage.org admin?
- 3.4 Ancestry charts of Diana Spencer and Catherine Middleton
- 3.5 Can someone please tell me why my talk page isn't archiving?
- 3.6 the visit is not a horror movie
- 3.7 Deleted Entries
- 3.8 My edit showing strange pattern
- 3.9 Ping request template
- 3.10 User:Vahvistus/Socialist Alternative (Malaysia)
- 3.11 How do I delete a wikipedia entry that I created?
- 3.12 Infobox picture
- 3.13 Template question
- 4 July 12
- 4.1 How to share to Facebook and email to others?
- 4.2 How to edit
- 4.3 Underlinked looks as not working at all in an article
- 4.4 John A. Burns School of Medicine
- 4.5 What links here question
- 4.6 Watchlist: Increase entries in RSS/Atom feeds
- 4.7 Template:European Union topics
- 4.8 History
- 4.9 Exam help request
- 4.10 Lost my username
- 5 July 13
- 5.1 Infobox doesn't accept official website template
- 5.2 reflinks link needed
- 5.3 Complete replacement of article
- 5.4 Reiki page
- 5.5 BROWNY IFEANYI IGBOEGWU AKA AGBALANZE
- 5.6 How do I set up a page?
- 5.7 Royal Tank Regiment Tactical recognition flash
- 5.8 Check date values in: |param1=, |param2=, ...
- 5.9 "Further reading" But what happens to the documents?
- 5.10 Bing and Google translators reject all Wikipedia pages
July 9
Inaccuracy & Breaching Copyright - VERMIPONICS
Greetings,
My name is Dr. Brett Roe. I was given the advice to contact wiki n regard to the inaccurate wiki page Vermiponics
I hold the copyright for the term vermiponics which can be confirmed by searching this gov site (http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/atmoss/falcon.application_start).
If you read the content of my website (www.vermiponics.com), you will find that the information held is both accurate and can be confirmed by publication.
A couple years ago I tried to add vermiponics to wiki, but it was denied by the powers that be. Hence, now that the term is officially accepted, I would appreciate being given the credit as any other claim of anyone either coining the term, or publishing research prior to myself is inaccurate and can not be confirmed (just web heresay). You will not be able to find any citations of the term vermiponics prior to my publication as they do not exist.
In addition, on my website there is a link to a government supported research project that has a full report available for free to the public which was ignored in the current wiki page.
Would someone kindly edit the page using more of the information on my website (definition, articles, etc.) and giving credit to myself and my team, and informing that I do own the trademark.
Many people are ignoring my copyright and not asking for my permission, and even profiting from it. I am not interested chasing the backyard / small groups over it, but wiki should hold themselves to a higher ethical standard.
Thank You.
Brett — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.8.185 (talk) 01:11, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- How did you get a doctorate if you can't tell the difference between a trademark and a copyright? --Orange Mike | Talk 02:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- We cover the aspects of topics relative to the proportions that the aspects are covered in reliably published sources. If, for example, a large proportion of the coverage of Vermiponics focused on the lawsuits someone had filed to enforce their trademark, we would probably mention the lawsuits. If (as appears to be the case in this situation) the coverage of Vermiponics never mentions anyone trying to trademark the term, we will not go to patent searches to include such information. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 07:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
User rights logs
Hi! Can someone list me all pages where I can find data about giving and depriving of the administrator (sysop) rights for users from other Wikipedia projects (particularly, for Serbian Wikipedia users)? I would like to make admin stats page with graphs, tables etc. but can't find data for some of the users (when they have become administators and/or when they have lost their sysop rights).
I'm currently using this user rights log (sr), this user rights log (en), this and even this, although some data is missing... I have used X'Tools service too but it seems to be very hard to get precise dates there, especially for changes of admin rights before 2006 or 2005 (+ X'Tools is not currently working).
To be clear, where to find logs with dates on which users Djordjes, Никола Смоленски, Обрадовић Горан and Pokrajac and others have got/lost their sysop rights?
Thank you in advance! --Obsuser (talk) 02:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Cover
How do I make this picture the cover for my WP:Book American Civil War?--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa123|UPage|☺★ (talk) 08:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Andrei Marzan: You would do this by clicking the "Edit" link at the top of the page, or the "Edit ... Wikitext" link in the page banner. Then find the line beginning "cover-image=" and change it to "cover-image=Chickamauga.jpg", and save the change. BUT there's a note at Help:Books/for experts that this won't work: although this will display the image in the banner at the top of the book's page here, the current software won't take any notice of it when you download the PDF. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
My number of edits
I am quite confused about how many edits I have actually made. Before I made four edits today, the mobile version said I had 1111 edits, which matches the number shown in my Preferences currently — 1115, excluding this help desk edit. The Preferences value is suggested to be the most accurate. However, X!'s tools tells me that I have 1098 live edits and 19 deleted edits, rendering 1117 total. Since I can't see deleted edits in my contribs, I can only verify that I do have 1098 live edits. However, annoyingly, X!'s tools tells me in the SUL editcounter section that I have 1115 edits on en wiki. So am I right in saying that I should ignore the 1117 number? The Average Wikipedian (talk) 14:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- X!'s tools is a bit buggy and being rewritten, but the 1098 live edits [before you made this post] seems to be correct. I can't see your deleted contributions, but I would trust your Preferences value over X!'s tools. But without being an admin, there's no way of knowing for sure. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 15:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- The Average Wikipedian, the exact number of edits doesn't matter that much anyway. There are several different algorithms for edit counting, I understand, which produce somewhat different results in some cases. Your discrepancy seems to be a matter of 10 or 15 edits at most. In my case, my preferences shows 29,496 edits, my admin stats page (linked from User:DESiegel) shows 27,130 live edits, and 31,123 live +deleted. X!'s edit counter shows 27,141 live, and 31,134 live+deleted, but 29,496 enwiki edits according to the SUL edit counter, which seems to match the one used by the preferences page. Other counters show yet different values, but the differences are just not that significant. DES (talk) 00:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- The Average Wikipedian some of the reasons for the difference in edit counts are described in the lede and the "Caveat lector" section here Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits. Also be aware of Wikipedia:Editcountitis as medical science has not yet found a cure for it :-) MarnetteD|Talk 01:10, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- The Average Wikipedian, the exact number of edits doesn't matter that much anyway. There are several different algorithms for edit counting, I understand, which produce somewhat different results in some cases. Your discrepancy seems to be a matter of 10 or 15 edits at most. In my case, my preferences shows 29,496 edits, my admin stats page (linked from User:DESiegel) shows 27,130 live edits, and 31,123 live +deleted. X!'s edit counter shows 27,141 live, and 31,134 live+deleted, but 29,496 enwiki edits according to the SUL edit counter, which seems to match the one used by the preferences page. Other counters show yet different values, but the differences are just not that significant. DES (talk) 00:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Magic word for username
Having recently noticed Shyamal's excellent idea to automate the manual replacement of an instructional template preloadtitle (i.e. Add+Your+Username.
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magic word, I found that the implementation was faulty because the magicword resolved before the title was created resulting in a preloadtitle of the username of the editor who had last edited the page. I made a modification to Shyamal's edit to prevent the immediate resolution of the magicword, and this does indeed produce the username of the editor who is currently editing, but unfortunately the magicword remains unresolved (as seen here) so the next time another editor edits the page, the title of the previous editor's post will also change to match the most recent editor. So now I've restored the original text. Is there a magic word that will give you your own username? And if not, then is there a clever workaround that anyone can think of in this situation? -Thibbs (talk) 15:32, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Thibbs: I have tried subst: this time with REVISIONUSER, could you give it a try now (seems to work) Shyamal (talk) 16:21, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Shyamal: - Apparently not....
Looks like it's resolving as "name of the previous editor" at the point where it pre-loads the title. So there's a lag. Right now if I were to create a new entry for myself it would have the title A326 since User:A326 was the last one to create a section (itself entitled "Shyamal" due to your last edit).I wonder if a possible solution would be to use the three tilde (~~~) as a preloadtitle. -Thibbs (talk) 17:09, 9 July 2015 (UTC)- Hmm. Strike the above. Looking more closely it seems that your last edit made the preloadtitle be simply "Shyamal". So I wonder if it's resolving at the moment you hit "save page". Had you actually replaced "
Add+Your+Username.
" with "{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}
"? -Thibbs (talk) 17:20, 9 July 2015 (UTC)- OK assuming that's what happened, I went ahead and made one last tweak to breaking the template's immediate render. Now I guess we wait to see if it's worked. Fingers crossed. Thanks for your excellent ideas. -Thibbs (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm. Strike the above. Looking more closely it seems that your last edit made the preloadtitle be simply "Shyamal". So I wonder if it's resolving at the moment you hit "save page". Had you actually replaced "
- @Shyamal: - Apparently not....
Table of Contents
I want to edit the table of contents on a page. But I dont see how to do that? The table of contents is on the page but when i go into edit i dont see it anywhere.
Basically I am reorganizing a page and want the table of contents to mimic the page with the additions and the placement changes.
This is the URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipedema
HELP!
16:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fdrs2014 (talk • contribs)
- The table of contents is generated automatically from the section headings, see WP:TOC. Note also that to refer to a Wikipedia page we normally use a wikilink, rather than a url, so Lipedema rather than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipedema . - David Biddulph (talk) 16:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- You cannot edit table of contents. You have to edit the section headings to change the heading name and you have to copy and paste the whole section to rearrange. The table of contents automatically changes. Thank you. Supdiop (talk) 16:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Semko Libadi
Hi, I believe this article should be deleted as it is a copy of Mustafa Hijri, can somebody check and do the necessary ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 16:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I think it is more complex than that - from what I can figure out, the Mustafa Hijri article is a copy of Semko Libadi, rather than the other way round. This was done by User:Ghassemlou110, a new contributor who has done little else: [1] Whether this is simple vandalism or something more complex will need research - from someone capable of reading the sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:45, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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Trouble with WikiLove template
I just tried to use Template:Give cake on somebody's talk page, but for some reason, once I clicked save, it didn't show up. The text for the template and my message are viewable in edit mode, but not the page. I feel like I may have had this problem before, but can't remember how to solve it. --Jpcase (talk) 18:24, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Did you substitute the template?--ukexpat (talk) 18:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Ukexpat: Yes, I did. If it would be helpful to see the exact text that I entered, this is the page - User talk:Spongebob tales of a sudden death --Jpcase (talk) 19:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Healthways
I just had a great deal of text edit with references for the Healthways page. Where did it go and how do I retrieve it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.58.208.22 (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Can you clarify your question? You have made two edits to the Healthways article, both of which removed content. Maproom (talk) 18:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Probably not but as it appears from your edit summary that you are editing on behalf of the subject, please don't try to. Please follow our conflict of interest guidance and use the article's talk page to suggest edits to the article.--ukexpat (talk) 19:17, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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- (edit conflict)There was. Maybe there still is. If you click "Save page" and get an edit conflict, you can scroll to the bottom of the page, find the where you were editing (which is now mysteriously part of the source of the whole article rather than of just one section), and copy the text you had created. If that works, I would recommend pasting it into a text editor (Notepad or something like that) and save it, while you think about whether and how to use it in view of the subsequent edit. If you have done several things with your browser since the edit conflict, there is still a small chance that you can get back to what you had typed. Thanks to ukexpat for helping me to check the details! Maproom (talk) 19:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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Why was page "Ken Keeley" deleted
I am wondering why the page "Ken Keeley was deleted by the person below.
6 December 2012 Jimfbleak (talk | contribs) deleted page Ken Keeley
Ken is a worl known 81 year old Photorealism artist, (one of the few actually listed in wikipedia under the photorealism category)
Neither of the reason codes for deleting seem to make any sense and I'd like to find out what it would take to get him listed again. I can make any necessary adjustments. I'm having big doubts about Jimfbleak, one of your (talk | contribs)
Thanks, Gary Guiseppone — Preceding unsigned comment added by NYSportt (talk • contribs) 19:17, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- If you click the links on the codes, they display what reasons they are. In this case, A7 is about lack of noteworthiness. Just being an artist is not by itself noteworthy. My cousin's an artist. My brother's an artist (of sorts). What matters is whether they've received attention from multiple and independent reliable sources. G12 means that the article plagiarized some source, in this case the subject's website. We cannot accept text from copyrighted sources -- see WP:COPYVIO. Edit: Digging around and finding the original article, it was a clear copy-and-paste job of the artist's website. There is no excuse whatsoever for doing that.
- Also, assume good faith from other members. Wikipedia is a bit of a meritocracy, Jimfbleak has been around long enough to become an administrator -- it follows that he knows a bit about what he's doing. You just got here. Now, if you weren't you, who would you trust more to assess a situation -- someone who's been around for 12 years and has been proven they can be trusted with extremely powerful tools, or someone who just got here? Ian.thomson (talk) 19:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Lets ping Jimfbleak in case J wishes to add anything to this thread. It was two and a half years ago though. MarnetteD|Talk 19:31, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- NYSportt, Note also that WP:CSD#A7 is not about whether the subject is in fact notable but about whether the article as it then existed contained a credible claim of significance. A poor article about a very noteworthy topic might well be speedy deleted because whoever drafted it failed to make clear why the subject ought to have an article. This is why, unlike after a deletion discussion, no permission is needed to create a new article on the same topic. In this case, since the deleted page was a clear copyright infringement, it won't be restored, so if you think Ken Keeley is notable (in the special Wikipedia sense of that term) you can start a new article, written in original terms but firmly based on published reliable sources, as much as possible independent sources. I suggest starting at Draft:Ken Keeley so you won't be subject to things like A7 until you have the draft in shape, or using the Article Wizard. But do not in any case repeat the cut&paste from another web site, please. DES (talk) 21:11, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- MarnetteD, thanks for ping. NYSportt, Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.NYSportt. Please read DES's sensible suggestion above. If you want more explanation of why the article was deleted or help in rewriting it in an acceptable version, let me know on my talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- NYSportt, Note also that WP:CSD#A7 is not about whether the subject is in fact notable but about whether the article as it then existed contained a credible claim of significance. A poor article about a very noteworthy topic might well be speedy deleted because whoever drafted it failed to make clear why the subject ought to have an article. This is why, unlike after a deletion discussion, no permission is needed to create a new article on the same topic. In this case, since the deleted page was a clear copyright infringement, it won't be restored, so if you think Ken Keeley is notable (in the special Wikipedia sense of that term) you can start a new article, written in original terms but firmly based on published reliable sources, as much as possible independent sources. I suggest starting at Draft:Ken Keeley so you won't be subject to things like A7 until you have the draft in shape, or using the Article Wizard. But do not in any case repeat the cut&paste from another web site, please. DES (talk) 21:11, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Lets ping Jimfbleak in case J wishes to add anything to this thread. It was two and a half years ago though. MarnetteD|Talk 19:31, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Deleted sections
Hi! I just want to ask why most of the sections in Pet Lovers Centre were deleted? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kacg8508 (talk • contribs) 21:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Kacg8508: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pet Lovers Centre. Basically, the way it was written was overly promotional, like an advertisement. Someone nominated it for deletion, and the overly promotional parts were removed so that the article could be saved. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:56, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @ONUnicorn: Thank you for your reply. I just have another question regarding this. Do you think it would be possible to rewrite and resubmit those deleted sections? ~ Kacg8508(Talk|Contribs) 01:20, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Referencing errors on Fonzi Thornton
Reference help requested. What can be done tofix this error please ? Thanks, Professormouse (talk) 22:23, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Fonzi Thornton ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- The error was fixed on 6 July. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Problem with new mobile interface
On my Android device, when I tap the number of a footnote, I can no longer continue to scroll through the page until I tap "X" to close the footnote. It used to be much easier, when scrolling through the page would simply close the footnote automatically. And the new design with the black background looks terrible. This is a real problem. Who should I write to who can do anything about it?
Coconutporkpie (talk) 22:23, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Coconutporkpie: You might try asking at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
July 10
Publish my draft article
How can I publish my draft article: Draft:Playlab — Preceding unsigned comment added by Playlab Games (talk • contribs) 08:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- It seems like since you posted this message, you've worked out how to submit the draft to Articles for Creation. All you have to do now is wait for a volunteer to look over your article and accept/decline it [this may take up to a month]. Do you still need help with anything? — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 10:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
</ref></ref> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ou bun chhay (talk • contribs) 08:36, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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- In your edit, you changed a couple of words but also accidentally added a pair of
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Image Upload - unconfirmed user
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Hello, My account has not been confirmed yet (I haven't made 10 edits) but I need to replace the picture displayed in the following page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonelli_Erede_Pappalardo. The one appearing on the page is out-of-date, since the firm has changed its brand name. What should I do? Thank you in advance for your help. Best, |
Inserting a Bio Banner with Pic and quick reference details
I am new to wiki edit and have a mostly completed draft, but I am unsure how to insert the Bio Banner with picture to the right of the article. I have uploaded an appropriate pic on the commons, but do not know where to go from there. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laflemming (talk • contribs) 09:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC) (Laflemming (talk) 09:50, 10 July 2015 (UTC))
- Hello @Laflemming. To add images to articles, you can add the code
[[File:filename.extension|thumb|right|caption]]
, replacing "filename" with the title of the image, ".extension" with ".png" or ".jpg" or whatever code comes at the end of the name and then replacing "caption" with the text you want to appear below the image. In this case, you would write[[File:Lee Flemming.jpg|thumb|right|caption text here]]
(changing the "caption text here" bit). You might want to look at Wikipedia:Picture tutorial for more information. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 10:22, 10 July 2015 (UTC)- @Laflemming: are you maybe talking about the WP:INFOBOX? those are not required but can be helpful in some circumstances. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:13, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Binawari Williams Ajuwa
The said player above is not retired. We will be grateful if you update the page on your website. You can find the link below. Thanks Binawari Williams Ajuwa— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.99.48.35 (talk) 12:11, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Done by User:TheRedPenOfDoom at 12.17 - Arjayay (talk) 13:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- By the way, 2.99.48.35, Wikipedia is "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit". If you have a change you think should be made, you can make it yourself. You don't even need an account. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 15:34, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
How to report a suspected republisher?
Hello, in a recent deletion discussion, I expressed the suspicion that the book Encyclopaedic biography of world great geographists by Chandra Dip Singh (ISBN 9788126140732) contains WP articles not declared as such. This suspicion was confirmed by another user in the German WP, who stated that even the intro section was a mash-up of the articles geography and geographer from 2009. According to WorldCat, C.P. Singh has "authored" three additional encyclopedias (Encyclopaedia of digital remote sensing, Encyclopaedia of dalit ethnography, Encyclopaedia of earth science) which I believe to be WP republications, too. All these books were published by Anmol Publications. Is there a subpage to report this? Wikipedia talk:Republishers seems to be rather poorly frequented. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 14:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks#Non-compliance process.--ukexpat (talk) 14:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Well, thanks, but this seems to refer to websites only. Furthermore, I can only suspect that all these encyclopedias contain WP articles. I just have access to the one mentioned first. Axolotl Nr.733 (talk) 17:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Question regarding speedy deletion of new page
I created the Big Chill (brand) page on 7/9/15 and it was deleted on 7/10/15 due to copyright infringement. I work for the company and was assigned the task of creating this page. I wrote the original website copy in questions and transferred my own work to the Wiki page. Can the page be restored? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwschtte (talk • contribs) 14:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Short answer; no. Long answer; there are several problems with the scenario you just laid out.
- Individuals and representatives of companies are strongly discouraged from writing articles about themselves or the companies they work for. This is a conflict of interest. Self-written articles, including articles written by employees of companies, are rarely neutral.
- The article you wrote was written like an advertisement. It was not written from a neutral point of view. This is a common problem with articles written by employees of the companies in question.
- The article was a copyright violation of the about page on your website, which has a copyright notice as follows: "©2015 Big Chill All Rights Reserved." When such content appears on Wikipedia we are legally obligated to take it down as soon as we become aware of it. You can agree to release it under our copyright terms, but the other problems with it mean we still wouldn't accept it in this case.
- Chances are, the article probably did not assert notability, meaning that it did not cite reliable published sources which were independent from the company for the facts within it. This is something all articles must do.
- You really should not write an article about the company you work for. If there are sufficient independently published reliable sources, you can use requested articles to provide us with links to the sources and request that someone not affiliated with the company create the article. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 14:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Whoever assigned you the job of writing the article has really put you in an impossible position for the reasons set out above. If the company is notable someone will write an article about it eventually - there is no deadline on Wikipedia.--ukexpat (talk) 14:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
American citizens living in Puerto rico.
What are the governmental between Puerto Rico and the united States? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.110.122.178 (talk) 15:52, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely clear what you're asking; but if I were you I'd ask at the reference desk. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Or read Puerto Rico which may have the answer. RJFJR (talk) 17:34, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Image Upload
Hello,
I am the Public Affairs Officer on LPD 26. We have released our seal and I would like to upload this to the page. How can I confirm my account and publish the photo?
Thank you,
LPD 26 PAO — Preceding unsigned comment added by LPD 26 Public Affairs Office (talk • contribs) 16:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Done - already answered at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions including a WP:Username policy warning - Arjayay (talk) 16:52, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
Is this considered spam?
Hello, I own a local business advertising directory for small businesses in Prattville, Milbrook and Wetumpka, Alabama. I am adding the links to our directory website http://www.relylocal.com/prattville-alabama on only the appropriate Wikipedia pages for Prattville, Millbrook and Wetumpka, Alabama. RelyLocal websites are real sites that are updated daily by someone in the community for over 500 small businesses in Prattville, Millbrook and Wetumpka, Alabama. The site receives over 20,000 hits per month from mostly local residents in the River Region Central Alabama area.
We are in know way a spamming site. I own the RelyLocal Prattville, Millbrook and Wetumpka area as part of a software licensing agreement with RelyLocal corporate since July 2010. We are simply adding the links to Wikipedia to make it easier for people researching the area to discover locally owned and operated businesses.
Please let me know if this is perceived as spam from our site... PLEASE LET US KNOW! We will be happy to remove the link if that is the case! Thank you very much! Love Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.214.71.103 (talk) 17:43, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, yes, that is considered external link spam. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- (I dont think it is "unfortunate" . (except maybe to the someone who was hoping to utilize Wikipedia as a free promotional platform.)) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not "a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing". We have very strict rules on external links — if every business operating in Wetumpka had a link at the bottom of Wetumpka, Alabama, there'd be far, far too many links to be of any use to anyone. Less is more. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 18:47, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have removed the links in question from the relevant articles. (1, 2, 3) — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 18:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
How can I rename or move this article?
The current article title is Bush White House email controversy. There were two presidents by the name of President Bush (George W. Bush and George H. W. Bush). So, I want to distinguish exactly which Bush the article is referring to. So, I tried to rename/move the article to George W. Bush White House email controversy. Somehow, the change would not "take". There were all sorts of redirects and renames and moves, etc. I have no idea how to sort through all that mess. Is there a way to move the current title (Bush White House email controversy) to one that correctly distinguishes which Bush (namely, to George W. Bush White House email controversy)? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:31, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Moving a page#Moves where the target name has an existing page. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks. So, what does all that mean? That an administrator has to do the move? And that I cannot? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:31, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Essentially, yes. An admin has to do the move. You may ask for that to happen at Wikipedia:Requested moves. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Was there any e-mail scandal during Bush I? per the naming conventions we use the broadest name that wont conflate/confuse with a different subject. Hence the general Bush is just fine. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Joseph A. Spadaro, As there is not clear agreement that your proposed name is better, i would urge you to follow the procedure at Wikipedia:Requested moves#CM to start a discussion on the talk page of the article (Talk:Bush White House email controversy in this case). If consensus for the move develops, an admin will perform the move. I for one would not do so without such a discussion. DES (talk) 23:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Essentially, yes. An admin has to do the move. You may ask for that to happen at Wikipedia:Requested moves. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. So, what does all that mean? That an administrator has to do the move? And that I cannot? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:31, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
OK. Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:40, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
translating an article to another language
Hello! I would like to submit an article for translation into French and publication on the French Wikipedia. How do I go about this? Thank you!92.145.120.81 (talk) 22:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Some introductory information is Wikipedia:Translate us and you may also find information at [3] -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:46, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
July 11
Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input
I am getting this error. There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).
The ref reads as follows:
What am I doing wrong?
PS – I used to update pages years ago, but gosh you are making this hard – even with bullet proof references.
Tim Logan (Sequoia Crest) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SequoiaCrest (talk • contribs) 00:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @SequoiaCrest: Your edit [4] added
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References
- ^ "Tule River Middle Fork and its People", Malcolm Sillars, 2010, Bear State Books"
Please sign your post by typing four tildes.
I am not very computer-savvy or tech-savvy. So, I don't understand how the computer "stuff" of Wikipedia works behind the scenes (i.e., the computer code, the HTML mark-up, or whatever all that stuff is). So, here is my question. Can't Wikipedia just automatically include a signature (or type the four tildes on its own) whenever an editor submits a post? (In other words, as soon as an editor hits "send" or "save page" or whatever, Wikipedia "knows" that the editor is posting something to a page.) I imagine that Wikipedia has this capability on some level. There have been times when I was not logged into my account (I was just logged in as an anonymous IP address, I guess). And, if I forgot to type the four tildes as my signature, Wikipedia would type some automatic notice that said something like "This was posted by User IP Address 123-456-789 on July 10 at 3:00 PM (UTC)". Any thoughts? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- I just spotted an example, up above, in the section heading of "Image Upload". In that section, one of the postings states: "Preceding unsigned comment added by LPD 26 Public Affairs Office (talk • contribs) 16:45, 10 July 2015 (UTC)". Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:57, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Well, for one thing we don't want every edit to be signed (especially on article pages). If we were to enable automatic signatures for talk pages, then simply adding a WikiProject banner or the standard "this is a talk page, not a general forum" banner would force a signature, which isn't needed either. The "Preceding unsigned comment..." text is added by User:SineBot, but sometimes the bot breaks down, which is why everybody should sign their posts. Altamel (talk) 05:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- The "Preceding unsigned comment" messages are usually added by a bot, only in talk spaces. Not all talk spaces, only some of them, and I'm not sure which or why. It also signs only content that was added at the end of a section. Could the edit software be made to do the same thing? Maybe. Why doesn't it? I guess because the cost-benefit isn't there - 1. 99.9% of users seem to have successfully trained themselves to sign without thinking about it. Saving a comment is simply a two-step operation. Thus the enhancement would benefit maybe 1 in 1,000 users. The other 999 would have to re-train themselves. 2. Many new users take a little while to get trained, but it doesn't seem a serious problem. New users aren't leaving in droves because they can't remember to sign, there are ample other reasons to leave in droves. 3. Like the bot, it would only be able to auto-sign comments added at the end of a section. For text inserted above the end, it's not feasible to correctly discern whether a signature is needed or not. All users would have to understand this new, somewhat complicated behavior and adapt to it. 4. WP:FLOW will (eventually) replace the wiki editor for talk spaces, and it will sign automatically. I hope I didn't miss your point. Signed,―Mandruss ☎ 07:45, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks. Well, that (WP:FLOW) is exactly what I am talking about. I had never heard of that before your mention of it. On that WP:FLOW page, the very first thing that is says is that the new "Flow" system will automatically sign posts. When is this FLOW project being implemented? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- People have been asking that question since before I arrived two years ago. As far as I know, the answer isn't known and it will be rolled out when it's ready. You could probably learn more by exploring that page and the pages it links to, but I doubt there's much time estimate there. ―Mandruss ☎ 04:34, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Autosigning is only a tiny part of the Flow changes. Flow is controversial so there may be resistance from big wikis like the English Wikipedia. Such resistance has blocked other WMF initiatives after heated discussions. Nobody knows or can now what will happen. My only prediction is a lot of drama when it's attempted to switch to Flow. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Right. None of these should be signed: Adding a WikiProject banner or other talk page banner, adding categories, adding interlanguage links, adding a section heading to a post lacking it, adding a date heading to a new day with no posts yet, adding {{Reflist-talk}} to a talk section using references, editing an earlier signed comment by yourself, fixing formatting of an existing post. User:SineBot tries to guess using code which may be written specifically for the English Wikipedia and our practices (Special:CentralAuth/SineBot only shows edits here and at Wikinews). An automatic MediaWiki feature for all wikis would be problematic as long as talk pages are just general wiki pages where anyone can edit any part for any purpose. By the way, pages in the Wikipedia namespace are often not used as talk pages but for example guidelines. This help desk is in Category:Non-talk pages that are automatically signed to help SineBot. On the other hand, article drafts for submisssion by IP's used to be made in the Wikipedia talk namespace because IP's could only create talk pages. Edits to such drafts should rarely be signed except by the reviewers, and other wikis may still have such a system. The English Wikipedia has added a special Draft namespace where IP's can create pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Where to report de.wikivoyage.org admin?
If I believe that an administrator at de.wikivoyage.org has behaved improperly on that wiki, where would I report it? (I do not speak German but can get translation help if needed.) --Guy Macon (talk) 07:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hey Guy. I do not speak German so I looked for what one would do in English and found, for example, Wikivoyage:Wikivoyage talk:Administrator nominations#Where to discuss and nominate withdrawals of admin tools, the gist of which is that all discussion regarding admin problems take place on that page. If that's equivalent to the German Wikivoyage's procedures, then you would discuss this here--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:51, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Looks like the problem resolved itself: https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Guy_Macon
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- I did notice on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Balou46 that this user has autopatrolled, bureaucrat, import, and sysop rights on de.wikivoyage.org. The bureaucrat right seems unusual. I am curious: how does one become a bureaucrat on one of the smaller wikis? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy Macon (talk • contribs)
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Ancestry charts of Diana Spencer and Catherine Middleton
please fix up my "nee" words in the section titled ancestry on this page (listed above) titled - "Ancestry charts of Diana Spencer and Catherine Middleton" I need help doing the accent over the word nee for both Diana, Princess of Wales (nee Diana Spencer) and further below on the same page, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, (nee Kate Middleton) Thanks M E Reed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.149.113.236 (talk)
- Done.[7] I don't know which features your editing device include but many users have a "Special characters" dropdown above the edit box, and another dropdown below the box where "Latin" can be selected for various characters. Or write
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Can someone please tell me why my talk page isn't archiving?
It was working up until 4:26, 23 May 2015 but has stopped. Thanks. Doug Weller (talk) 11:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Should be fixed by [8]. You were renamed 25 May 2015 and the bot only allows archiving to subpages of your talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:01, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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the visit is not a horror movie
i an't edit it out, but the film "the visit" The Visit (2015 film) is not a horror movie. in the trailer it says a new thriller by m night Shyamalan.(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCsULFGldi8) he also specifically says so on the live stream at nerd hq (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xckcs2qCGQU) around 2:15:00 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaatje1903 (talk • contribs) 11:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Kaatje1903, I suggest that you post yoru views at Talk:The_Visit_(2015_film)#Genre. DES (talk) 14:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Deleted Entries
Dear Sir, I have now posted several referenced items on MOD, Queen's Bodyguard and Sir Peter Fahy profile. All have been deleted even though I referenced the items in accordance with your criteria. Why are people allowed to remove these posts? All the posts referred factually with reference to things those particular organisations may not like about themselves but they were factually correct and substantiated by Freedom of Information requests from the organisations referred to in the post. Please assist. Ghandiesque — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghandiesque (talk • contribs) 13:42, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Please understand that Verifiability, no original research and neutral point of view are Wikipedia's core content policies.
IMHO freedom of information requests are not what we would consider verifiable - no-one can easily check-up that what you are stating is true.
FOI requests are clearly original research - this is not information that has already been published in reliable sources, which is what we use on Wikipedia.
Looking at the similarity of your edits, it appears you may be trying to promote a particular point of view, not a neutral one - I suspect these are the reasons other editors have deleted your additions.
Finally, in this edit your state "Our-ref", which suggests you may be representing some form of organization? - Arjayay (talk) 14:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC)- (edit conflict)Ghandiesque, in this edit you inserted an uncited paragraph, and later reinserted it (slightly modified, but essentially the same) twice after it was reverted (not deleted, it is still in the history). You never supplied a source.
- With this edit you inserted a then uncited parageraph into Peter Fahy. You later referenced this with the somewehat cryptic (at least to me) cite of "GSA 2850/13-17th September 2013". (Is this a published source? Where is it available to a reader?) It is still in the article.
- With this edit you inserted a paragraph sourced only to "FoI request dated 8th May 2015 -- UK Regular1 personnel of OF-6 NATO Rank2 with detail on ethnicity3, as at 1 January 2015 Source: Defence Statistics (Tri-Service)" Is this a published source? How can a reader consult it? TheClown90 reverted with no explanation.
- In none of these cases did you (or anyone else) discuss the matter on the article talk page. So now, as per Bold, revert, discuss it is time to do so, Ghandiesque. I advise posting your specific concernes on the talk page of each article where you have an issue, citing the specific sourcce and how it supports your suggested content. Also indicate how the content is appropriate and relvant to the article, and including it would not give undue weight to a particular PoV. Remember that sources must be published so that any reader could (with some effort, perhaps) consult them, but they do NOT have to be available online. DES (talk) 14:40, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Ghandiesque: In addition to the above issues, if all the sources had been published then you would still break Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material, for example in [9]. If no reliable published source has accused somebody of wrongdoing then neither should Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
My edit showing strange pattern
Check this edit in Fountain pen. --Aero Slicers 15:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Can you be a bit more specific? What is the exact "strange pattern" you are talking about? I can't see any obvious major issues with that edit. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 15:19, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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Ping request template
What is the template for adding the ping request seen after I dream of horses' message in the "Welcome" section of this - User talk:203.173.154.63 - page? --Jpcase (talk) 16:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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produces Jpcase, which should have given you a small notification at the top of your screen. You can also just type the username manually, like you did in your message just there, or use {{Ping}}. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 16:53, 11 July 2015 (UTC)- @Bilorv: - Thanks for the reply! I'm actually asking about the template in orange, in which I dream of horses asks the IP user to ping her if said user leaves a reply on that page. I've pinged people before, but have never seen this request and think that it could come in handy at times. --Jpcase (talk) 16:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. That notice actually seems to be part of I dream of horses' signature. The exact code used to create it was
<span style="border:1px solid #ffa500;background:#ffce7b;"><small>If you reply here, please [[WP:ECHO|ping me]] by adding <nowiki>{{U|I dream of horses}}<nowiki> to your message.</small></span>
. I don't think there's a template that produces that, although I could be wrong. If you want to use something similar, you could perhaps copy the code to your sandbox or somewhere you can access easily (changing "I dream of horses" to "Jpcase") and copy and paste the message when you need it. I assume I dream of horses wouldn't mind you stealing their idea. :P — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 17:10, 11 July 2015 (UTC)- @Bilorv: Haha, okay cool! It's a great idea on her part - is there a process by which something like this could be adopted as a template? I think that a lot of people would probably find it useful. --Jpcase (talk) 17:16, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Jpcase Anyone can do so by simply creating a template page including a sitable modification of that code. Well, anyone who is autoconfirmed. But it is strictly forbidden to use a template in one's signature, so one would still have to add the template manually. I'm not sure how many users would find it worth while, given that. DES (talk) 17:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @DESiegel: If it was turned into a template, then couldn't it just be added before the signature (as I've done below)? I'd mainly use this in similar contexts to the page cited above, where I dream of horses was leaving a generic welcome message for an IP. I wouldn't want to be pinged for every single reply that I ever receive, since I'll be watching the article talk pages and most of the user talk pages that I've contributed to. But I don't want to watch the talk page for every single IP that I give a generic welcome or warning to, nor do I like to watch pages like this one, that have high activity and many discussions that are of no relevance to me. So that's where a template like this could be a good one to have around.
- Jpcase Anyone can do so by simply creating a template page including a sitable modification of that code. Well, anyone who is autoconfirmed. But it is strictly forbidden to use a template in one's signature, so one would still have to add the template manually. I'm not sure how many users would find it worth while, given that. DES (talk) 17:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: Haha, okay cool! It's a great idea on her part - is there a process by which something like this could be adopted as a template? I think that a lot of people would probably find it useful. --Jpcase (talk) 17:16, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, okay. That notice actually seems to be part of I dream of horses' signature. The exact code used to create it was
- @Bilorv: - Thanks for the reply! I'm actually asking about the template in orange, in which I dream of horses asks the IP user to ping her if said user leaves a reply on that page. I've pinged people before, but have never seen this request and think that it could come in handy at times. --Jpcase (talk) 16:59, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Yes you may do that, Jpcase. Anyone may. But if this is to be a generic template for anyone to use, it would need a parameter for the user name, and would probably need to be subst'd on each use. I'm not sure how many users would choose to do that, but you can create such a template if you care to. I'm just guessing about what people might use, and i've been wrong in the past. DES (talk) 17:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Oh, I just created {{Request ping}} and a shortcut to it {{ReqP}}. DES (talk) 19:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- @Bilorv: @DESiegel: Hold on; what's the problem with using
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- (edit conflict) Yes it will, Bilorv, unless subst is used. Look at this page and your use above now without editing it. DES (talk) 20:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: @DESiegel: Hold on; what's the problem with using
- @Bilorv: @DESiegel: Looks great! Thanks for setting that up! If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|Jpcase}} to your message, and signing it. --Jpcase (talk) 20:32, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Good idea, Bilorv. There is, although I hadn't used it before now, it is
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User:Vahvistus/Socialist Alternative (Malaysia)
I wrote this article last year but it was deleted as my references were not considered independent enough. I have added references and left a message at User talk:Spartaz but a message on his page says he is not active and does not mind if decisions go to other editors. How do I go about getting someone else to decide whether I have shown notability. Vahvistus (talk) 18:08, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Vahvistus: Sorry, but it's still likely to be deleted. Blogs (i.e. anything on Blogspot or Wordpress) are pretty much never used as a source, since anyone out there can make one.
- The sources cited also have to specifically mention the group in the article text. I can't find the words "Socialist Alternative" or "Sosialis Alternatif" in relation to Malaysia in the following citations:
- http://offensiv.socialisterna.org/sv/884/cwi/5135/ - Technically "Sosyalist Alternatif" does appear once, in a link to an article on Turkey.
- https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/intl.htm - Mentions some groups called Socialist Alternative (or similar in their native languages), but not for Malaysia.
- http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/6765 - Search says it appears somewhere on the page, but won't highlight it, which appears to mean that it's in one of the links for other articles, or comments on articles, not that in that news article itself.
- http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/4749 - This article says that an alternative to the current government is needed, and that that alternative needs to be socialist, but it is not specifically about a group called "Socialist Alternative." Then again, it is not being used for a statement about the group, but for a statement that fails WP:NOTSOAPBOX. We don't allow anyone to tell the reader what sort of government is needed, capitalist, socialist, anarchist, fascist, or whatever.
- http://www.socialistpartyaustralia.org/archives/611 - This source doesn't mention Socialist Alternative at all. It refers to socialism as an alternative form of government once, but does not name a group called Socialist Alternative.
- http://www.socialistworld.net/doc/5168 - As with the other Socialistworld.net article, the words do appear somewhere in links or comments, not the actual article
- http://www.socialistpartyaustralia.org/archives/2384 - How does this source explain the difference between two groups when it doesn't mention one of them?
- What I recommend is gathering multiple (as many as you can find) professionally published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are independent of the group, summarizing each without addition or commentary, and then arranging them to place overlapping statements together. Then read the article, but imagine it was about a capitalist group, or try reading it from an anti-socialist perspective. If you feel that the article is preachy, tone it down -- we don't allow any article to tell a reader what to believe about politics. Ian.thomson (talk) 18:50, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Ian.thomson: Thanks for that. It seems the name is a problem. Most of those references refer to CWI in Malaysia, I will change the article to reflect that synonym. It started out as a small stub but it was referred for deletion after a few days so I added more information to get the references none of which satisfied other editors in the deletion discussion. The Marxist.org website is generally a definitive reference but in this case they have put a link to the groups blog page without using the name. I will look for an alternative reference. Vahvistus (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Ian.thomson: Could you run your eye over these two versions. I have done my best to address the points you made. The group uses blogspot as there own website was attacked https://sosialisalternatif.wordpress.com/
The Marxist.org site uses an old strap line instead of their name but it links to their page and is considered the best online reference for all Marxist matters. I prefer the first version as it has material in it that took me a long time to find. The sandbox version has all that stripped out. I will appreciate any comments you make. User:Vahvistus/Socialist Alternative (Malaysia) User:Vahvistus/sandbox
Vahvistus (talk) 00:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The non-English sources in the sandbox version might work if they meet our reliable sourcing guidelines -- but I can't work with Malay well enough to make any decision about that. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
How do I delete a wikipedia entry that I created?
How do I delete a Wikipedia page that I created? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leatherjacketcat (talk • contribs) 18:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Leatherjacketcat: Assuming you're talking about Mr 27 Days, then the easiest way is to delete all the text, and replace it with {{db-author}}. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Infobox picture
I would like to upload an image on the Stacy Doris page. I do not find any infobox all ready for a picture upload. I have read much of the material about boxes and uploading pictures. I see what text to put in, but it is not clear -whether it needs a box to be already present to put the image and caption into -how to select and upload an image into the editable wikipedia entry page. Please help me.
Many thanks, Wattsirod — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wattsirod (talk • contribs) 18:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- You should read Wikipedia:Uploading pictures. Ruslik_Zero 19:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Template question
I would like to place the following template at the top of articles where I have a financial connection (COI) and have contributed to the page substantially, in order to ensure compliance with the Federal Trade Commission's astroturfing laws and established ethical best practices, which require that someone with a financial connection provide a "clear and conspicuous" disclosure to readers.
I realize there are already disclosures of my COI on the Talk page and my user page, but legal precedence is that this is not sufficient and guidance from the Federal Trade Commission is that disclosures at the bottom of an article or that you have to click through to find are not adequate. There are arguments for it both ways and I would like to seek community consensus one way or another. Here kvng removed the template, noting that my COI is already disclosed on Talk, while here Sulfurboy suggested I go ahead and use it.
My question is, where would one go to seek consensus about something concerning templates? Also, am I just wasting my time? I wonder if there is even a debate to be had, or if consensus would be so far against it that it is not worthwhile to pursue. CorporateM (Talk) 21:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- CorporateM, it is hard to say, but I think this should be put to a site-wide RFC, as such a placement might be considered an unwanted self reference. There has in the past been resistance to notification templates on the article, as opposed to on the talk page, but this one seems reasonable to me. I note that the 2012 court decision you mention seems to be from a lower-level court 9If I ahve understood the German court system correctly, which i'm not at all sure that i have) and may not be a final precedant. There seems to be no US or UK court case yet. But I can see where you want to be conservative in such matters. DES (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Two comments on the German case: 1/ The Wikipedia community is likely overestimating the import of this because it is exciting/flattering to have Wikipedia in the center of this. 2/ The judges' statement that, the average reader of Wikipedia articles expects to find objective and neutral information is pretty disconnected from reality. CorporateM, if this issue is not causing a tangible problem for you, I would encourage you to carry on with your work and address this issue in whatever way makes local editors comfortable. A site wide RFC is unlikely help anything. The only thing that will actually improve resolution, unfortunately, is additional case law. ~Kvng (talk) 22:28, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Very good advice @Kvng:. I have been in touch with a contact at the FTC, because I have been encouraging them to establish a legal precedence with regards to covert advertisements on Wikipedia for years. I got the impression they were more interested in cases where the edits themselves are misleading, which I think is a good attitude. They did ask if it was even possible to provide an FTC-compliant disclosure, which is a good question. But any RFC is likely to end with "no consensus" anyway. Unless someone jumps in with radically different advice, I think I will attempt to incorporate the template where I can and see if editors involved in that particular page support it. There are quite a few things after all, such as COI itself, that are left in perpetual non-consensus. CorporateM (Talk) 22:50, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
July 12
How do I share to Facebook and / or email to others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NnymsFrm (talk • contribs) 00:28, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. DES (talk) 02:09, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- I guess you mean a special feature to post Wikipedia articles on Facebook or in emails. It has been discussed several times but there is no consensus for such a feature so we don't have it. See Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Share pages on Facebook, Twitter etc. You can just copy the url of the article from your browser address bar and post it manually. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:49, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- NnymsFrm, do you want to point out an article to others? I'm not very expert with this topic of Wikipedia (and I'm not expert about Facebook at all), but I belive that you can use the ordinary URL of the Wikpedia's wep page. You can also use an URL showing the article's current version in this time or other versions, see Help:Page history#Linking to a specific version of a page. If you don't just want to share the URL but article's text, images, media and so on, please look at Wikipedia:Copyrights. --5.170.64.94 (talk) 09:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
How to edit
HOW DO I EDIT MY ARTICLE? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shane Apdar Ibrahim (talk • contribs) 00:46, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Do you mean User:Shane Apdar Ibrahim/sandbox? It's right there to edit, although I don't see any way this local boy's society could ever qualify as the subject for an encyclopedia article. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:22, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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- (edit conflict)First of all, Shane Apdar Ibrahim, please don't post in ALL CAPS, that is considered the online version of shouting in someone's face.
- Secondly I suppose you refer to User:Shane Apdar Ibrahim/sandbox. However there is no such thing as your article. All articles and indeed all pages on Wikipedia are owned by the project and available for anyone to edit.
- Thirdly, you edit by going to that page and clicking the "edit" link near the top, or one of the section edit links.
- Fourthly, you have requested another review of that draft, but unless you make significant changes, I am confident it will not pass. You have supplied no sources at all. For a draft to be approved and become a full article, it needs to contain citations to independent, published, reliable sources that discuss the subject in some detail, not directory entries or brief mentions. Without such cited sources, no article is approved. Frankly I will be suprised if published independent sources exist for "The Lifestyles of the Dhamba Boys" but if they do, you need to cite them.
- Fifthly, since no article belongs to anyone, articles and drafts are not signed and do not have bylines. The page history tells who wrot4e what parts of an article.
- I hope that is helpful. DES (talk) 02:26, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Underlinked looks as not working at all in an article
I've added {{Underlinked|section|date=July 2015}}
to hte lead section of Music sequencer article (you can see the diff).
But the template looks as not working at all: no text shown, no category added.
(By the way I can not see hidden category at all, though the article already had "multiple issue" tag. At Wikipedia in Italian language a "[Other]" command is shown at the end of the category list to let see the hidden category, if there any of them).
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- I've pointed out the last issue (the one about Template:Dated) in general at Template talk:Dated#If there are one or more parameters in the template .... --5.170.64.94 (talk) 09:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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in your diff produces a box for me saying "This section needs more links to other articles to help integrate it into the encyclopedia. Please help improve this article by adding links that are relevant to the context within the existing text. (July 2015)". Maybe you overlook it because it joins with the box above it. Or maybe you view the mobile version where such boxes are omitted. Registered users have the option "Show hidden categories" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Others can see them for a given page by clicking "Page information" in the left pane, at least in the desktop version of the site. The mobile version has a "Desktop" link at the bottom. Mobile users can also manually add?action=info
to the url to see Page information. I didn't know the Italian system for hidden categories but I see the mentioned "[altre]" link on for example it:Abbie Hoffman. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2015 (UTC)- The Italian "[altre]" link is made by it:MediaWiki:Gadget-HiddenCat.js which is enabled by default at it:MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. They apparently copied the idea from the French fr:MediaWiki:Common.js. I haven't seen discussion of doing something similar at the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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- I'm not in mobile version (I'm using a PC and Mozilla Firefox). (And by the way, if box of that kind are omitted in the mobile version, it's a pity because the spur to improve articles)
- I was not telling about a permanent "Show hidden categories", but about a momentary showing them (how can I explain it ...uhm ... , it's something like a the outcome of Template:Hidden or Template:Collapsible list). Thank you for the "Page information" tip, is a workaround to see hidden categories (though less user friendly, being less deducible). --5.170.63.14 (talk) 08:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- After seeing the Italian Wikipedia I know what you wanted but as mentioned, the English Wikipedia does not have that feature. Wikis can make their own features and I'm sure we have many the Italians don't have. A gadget like the Italian could be proposed at Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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John A. Burns School of Medicine
Hello! I am trying to correct a title of an article, but apparently I cannot, you please help me: the article is titled John A. Burns School of Medicine, but needs to be corrected to the official name of the school: University of Hawaii John A. Burns School of Medicine (also known as University of Hawaii Medical School). Thank you for you help!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeeJiem (talk • contribs) 09:45, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- There a tag on the article saying the title is incorrect for technical reasons, but I don't see any restrictions that apply. I don't think this is in any way controversial for a move, so unless someone can spot what the technical restriction is, it should just be an ordinary move. Rwessel (talk) 09:59, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- It appears that the correct title tag was incorrectly added by User:TeeJiem, presumably in an attempt to change the title, in this recent edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Hawaii_John_A._Burns_School_of_Medicine&diff=next&oldid=670173516
- TeeJiem has now moved the page. Rwessel (talk) 10:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
What links here question
So I'm editing Cincinnati chili and I check the 'what links here' page, and the first article is American Chinese cuisine, which doesn't seem at all related, so I went over to see if I could figure out what in that article would be linking to Cincinnati chili. I searched for cincinnati and for chili both in the article and in the source and couldn't find anything, and I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong. What's the best way to find where in an article a link to another article is?
Thanks for any help! valereee (talk) 13:33, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- It's hidden in the second to last navbox "Cuisine of the United States" (linked as "Cincinnati"). Afaik all links from navboxes and other transcluded content are always included in the "What links here" list - can be a bit confusing at times. GermanJoe (talk) 13:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Valereee: I sometimes resort to asking my browser to show me the HTML version of the page, and searching within that. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:54, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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{{:American Chinese cuisine}}
(note the colon) in the big box, click OK and search for "Cincinnati chili". The mobile version doesn't display navboxes. Method 2) and 3) may still require a little work to locate it in the original page. In some tricky cases a page used #ifexist on the page name. That causes a WhatLinksHere entry without actually making a link. It can be difficult to trace such cases by examining the used templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC) - @Valereee: If you suspect links are caused by templates then you can also select "Template" in the "Namespace" box at Special:WhatLinksHere/Cincinnati chili. This shows Template:Cuisine of the United States and Template:Pasta dishes. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:43, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict, this edit was started long ago) Click "[show]" at the "Cuisine of the United States" navbox at the bottom. It's linked on "Cincinnati" (maybe a single sauce shouldn't be linked in {{Cuisine of the United States}} but that's another discussion). Links from navboxes cannot be excluded from WhatLinksHere. The "best" way may depend on your browser and the circumstances but here are some ways to find the link with a Ctrl+f browser search or however your browser searches the viewed page: 1) Click all "[show]" links (you can also search those) and search on "Cincinnati chili" or the parts "Cincinnati" and "chili" in case it's piped liked here (if you don't guess the displayed text then this will fail). 2) View the html source of the page, for example with Ctrl+u in some browsers, and search "Cincinnati chili". 3) Go to Special:ExpandTemplates, enter
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Watchlist: Increase entries in RSS/Atom feeds
Namaste. Is it possible to increase the number of entries provided by API for Watchlist feeds; mayhaps by including some additional parameter into URL? Default is 50 entries; I've thousands of pages on my Watchlist, and being provided only 50 means I've to poll the feed quite often - much more than I'd like to, even. It is desirable to poll less frequently, but receive a larger amount of entries; maybe 500-1000 or so. At present, it takes but a single AWB user iterating over a set of pages to push everything from view, which is annoying.
Documentation from mw:API and mw:API:Watchlist feed are rather sparse.
If reply, please ping: {{Re|dsprc}}. Thanks for your time. -- dsprc [talk] 15:15, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Dsprc: I haven't found a way. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=feedwatchlist doesn't show anything. For Recent changes, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=help&modules=feedrecentchanges shows a limit parameter but it can only be 1 to 50 for Recent changes (I checked), and it has no effect for Watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:59, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Template:European Union topics
The template Template:European Union topics seems to be broken, but I haven't been able to figure out exactly what's causing the problem. Woodshed (talk) 15:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- "Related changes" in the left pane of Template:European Union topics shows recent edits to Template:Country topics. I fixed that template. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
History
There is no early history In this article. The Native American era to the colonial William Floyd era to the later " Knapps lived here" period to home building era of the Smadbeck brothers Home Guardian Company. Very poor article, not up to usual Wiki articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.37.56 (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- We have millions of articles. Which one are you referring to? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Also, if you have found an article that you think is poor, you are more than welcome to improve it yourself. The vast majority of our articles are editable by anybody. If you find an issue that you are unwilling to correct yourself, you can mention it on the talk page of the article. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 16:10, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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- "Knapps lived here" occurs in three articles:- History of the board game Monopoly, Joseph P. Knapp and Phoebe Knapp
- "Smadbeck brothers" occurs in four articles:- Lake Carmel, New York, Howard Sloane, The Heckscher Foundation for Children and Lake Carmel (New York)
- Home Guardian Company only appears in:- Fire Island Pines, New York
- - Arjayay (talk) 16:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- I think the poster is saying what they think should be in the unidentified article. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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Exam help request
hi there i need help rgarding my exams i apperaed approximately 20years ago from multan board for intermediate and i had two subjects remaining to clear but fortunately i came to saudi arab and could not go back i have my result card .i need to know how can appear again for my remaining papers to clear these paper and can i change these two subjects that is stat and math. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.246.183.211 (talk) 22:17, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Lost my username
I have contributed both to the en.m.wikipedia and to the it.m.wikipedia sites, with user name RDR. I have recently been forced to change my nickname in both contributions, on the assumption that the two types, English and Italian, were from different authors. I would very much like to be recognized as a single contributor, with my old name, that nobody else is claiming but me. I did not find a more suitable place to post this very unimportant request. Any advice is welcome. Thanks a lot RDR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto DR (talk • contribs) 15:55, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- You might ask at m:User talk:Keegan (WMF). He's the one who left the notices on your user talk page. —teb728 t c 09:50, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Roberto DR: Special:CentralAuth/RDR shows the right to the name belongs to a user with 206 edits at the Portuguese Wikipedia. Earlier this year it was disallowed for different users to have the same name at different wikis. The right to the name went to the user with the most edits, and others were renamed. You cannot get the name unless the Portuguese user agrees to be renamed but the user hasn't specified an email address and hasn't edited since 2009 so it may not even be possible to contact them. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
July 13
Infobox doesn't accept official website template
I'm not sure where to go with this, so I'm starting here. It seems that Template:Infobox toy doesn't work with Template:Official website. See the results of my edit here when I tried to add the website template to the Zhu Zhu Pets article. How can this be remedied? Dismas|(talk) 02:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- There doesn't appear to be anything you can do by changing how you code it, so your only recourse is Template talk:Infobox toy and/or Template talk:Official website. The latter has more watchers and more activity. ―Mandruss ☎ 02:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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- {{Infobox toy}} expects a raw url and adds formatting. {{Official website}} produces an already formatted link. The raw url can be pulled from Wikidata with
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- Nonsense. Anyone can create a template, that doesn't give it community consensus. Except in those relatively few cases where a wide discussion of a template has been held, and genuine consensus formed, most templates have no particular consensus behind them, they are hand tools which soem editors use, adn others do not. Almost no templates are mandated for use in specific circumstances. No one is required to use the {{Official website}} template. One way to change any consensus it has is to stop using it, and remove it from where it is used. If in a given case that removal is reverted, and discussion upholds the revert, then it has consensus -- on that page. Eventually one might deduce a site-wide consensus, if alllor most such decisions go the same way. But the mere existence of a template only proves that no one has obtained consensus to delete it yet. DES (talk) 03:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- My understanding is that the correct way to achieve that end is to get explicit consensus for it at Village Pump or the template talk page, and then update the template doc to indicate that it's deprecated. Evangelizing non-use in other talk spaces, in venues not intended for such discussion, is not the way. Anyone can create a template, but it doesn't survive for seven years undeprecated without community consensus. This is the only way I know of to make the community consensus readily accessible to all editors, and, without it, community consensus is a matter of opinion. I'm open to correction by written policy or guideline (or even multiple very experienced editors, in some cases), but sorry if I don't take your word for it because you started with the word "nonsense". ―Mandruss ☎ 03:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Most templates are not looked at by most editors most of the time. The mere existence of a template cannot be looked at as evidence that it has wide consensus, particularly when some features of it (The connection with wikidata) have not existed for the full life of the template, and are not well known even to many users of the template. While a site-wide RFC would be one way of establishing consensus to use or not use a template or other feature, incremental decisions by individual editors are also a common way in which such decisions wind up being made. What I felt (and still feel) was "nonsense" was the contention that the mere existence of a template demonstrates consensus for its use and for its current features ("If a template exists in the template namespace, it has community consensus by definition." above). DES (talk) 15:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I would add that the wikidata connection was added to that template a bit over a year ago, after a discussion at Template talk:Official website#Wikidata which seems to have involved only two editors, hardly a wide consensus. DES (talk) 15:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- My understanding is that the correct way to achieve that end is to get explicit consensus for it at Village Pump or the template talk page, and then update the template doc to indicate that it's deprecated. Evangelizing non-use in other talk spaces, in venues not intended for such discussion, is not the way. Anyone can create a template, but it doesn't survive for seven years undeprecated without community consensus. This is the only way I know of to make the community consensus readily accessible to all editors, and, without it, community consensus is a matter of opinion. I'm open to correction by written policy or guideline (or even multiple very experienced editors, in some cases), but sorry if I don't take your word for it because you started with the word "nonsense". ―Mandruss ☎ 03:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Nonsense. Anyone can create a template, that doesn't give it community consensus. Except in those relatively few cases where a wide discussion of a template has been held, and genuine consensus formed, most templates have no particular consensus behind them, they are hand tools which soem editors use, adn others do not. Almost no templates are mandated for use in specific circumstances. No one is required to use the {{Official website}} template. One way to change any consensus it has is to stop using it, and remove it from where it is used. If in a given case that removal is reverted, and discussion upholds the revert, then it has consensus -- on that page. Eventually one might deduce a site-wide consensus, if alllor most such decisions go the same way. But the mere existence of a template only proves that no one has obtained consensus to delete it yet. DES (talk) 03:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The url can be given directly to {{Official website}} in a parameter (it would still break in {{Infobox toy}}). This will override a url in Wikidata but can cause the hidden category Category:Official website different in Wikidata and Wikipedia or Category:Official website not in Wikidata. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:03, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- What do you get when large numbers of editors disregard a community consensus because they disagree with it? Chaos. And chaos is what we have. If a template exists in the template namespace, it has community consensus by definition. Anyone is free to try to change a community consensus. ―Mandruss ☎ 03:01, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Does anybody have a link to the relinks that works? The one I have doesn't seem to be working: https://tools.wmflabs.org/fengtools/reflinks/. Thanks. SW3 5DL (talk) 03:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Complete replacement of article
Hi and thank you for your help, An existing article on Wikipedia purports to outline a theory I wrote and had published in a number of reputable journals and books. The theory is well-known in relevant groups, has been cited in research papers on numerous occasions and is used by health professionals and educators. However the description of the theory in the current Wikipedia article, while well-meaning, is woefully inadequate, incorrect in several places, does not mention most of the theory, uses an incorrect title for the theory and is poorly referenced. Numerous people have asked me to correct this article as it is embarrassing to myself and does a disservice to the good reputation of Wikipedia. I have now written an article that gives an accurate and objective account of the theory, includes critiques of the theory by others and a number of references. I have worked hard to integrate many of my publications on the theory, some of which I know are difficult to access in various parts of the world (there are already people waiting to see it up on Wikipedia).
My question is this: it is not possible for me to simply go in and edit the existing article because it is fundamentally flawed in every respect and the sections listed in that article are not appropriate. In other words, I would like to simply replace it with the article I have written. I cannot find anything in the guidance materials that tells me how to do a complete replacement like this although I assume it would require an administrator. I wonder also whether there is someone who can take my article, code it appropriately and place in on Wikipedia for me. I would appreciate your help in this matter. For obvious reasons I have not cited the article here.
203.23.212.158 (talk) 07:49, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- It would be much easier to give a helpful response if you would tell us what article this is about. But in general, a plan to write a completely new version of an article, and replace the current version by it, is doomed to fail. Other editors will restore the version that you don't like. If you believe that there are errors in an article, you should discuss them on the article's talk page. What you need to look for before making sweeping changes to an article is not an administrator, it is consensus of editors. Maproom (talk) 08:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- We usually discourage conflict of interest editing, but I can definitely see the reasoning behind your position. It would definitely help if you linked the article you are talking about, and is the article you have written saved on Wikipedia anywhere at the moment (e.g. as a draft)?
- Technically speaking, there is no restriction on going into an article and changing every single word in it. The other option, if the content you have written is already on Wikipedia somewhere, is to delete the original page (which would require an administrator) and move the new page to that title (which requires an autoconfirmed account). But just because something is technically possible does not mean it should happen. Article talk pages exist to discuss large changes or conflicts over content and probably should be used to discuss this change, to get consensus. I can think of some other ways to try to help you, but I need to know which article you're talking about. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 09:12, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Reiki page
Reiki ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hello,
I'm not very experienced but do like to contribute.
I would like the "Reiki" page to have more formal moderation. A LOT of information from different contributors got "cleaned out" and several gung-ho Wiki contributors seem keen that no information gets put back on, other than from the paradigm of skeptic medical science or non-applicable linguistics (there's a whole new section about Japanese symbols that are similar to, but not the actual symbols, of Reiki - apart from an interesting side-note on how some people misinterpret the symbols, I don't see how it's applicable). It's quite disheartening.
Reiki is a spiritual tradition and I understand that some see all spiritual topics as nonsense - but that's not the point. Reiki is a human tradition that has just as much right to be described as any other part of human culture. Reiki has a lot of history and knowledge that most practitioners would agree to. Several practitioners had been on the page and were writing bits down and piecing things together. It was lovely. Generally different Reiki lineages don't mix or share knowledge. It was a great example of Wikipedia doing its job. But now, most of this has been deleted. The page seems to have been hijacked by editors who don't know anything about Reiki and are determined that no one should. It's being persecuted!
For example, agreed by most practitioners in America and Australia and England is that Hawayo Takato brought the 3-level Reiki system to America (I've only spoken to maybe 20 in England and America and too many to count in Australia, but most of these people were from different lineages, so, that they concur is a significant indication that a more "Wiki friendly" audit would find similar). This information about Hawayo Takata has been deleted. Why? That at least is easily verifiable. A lazy "clean up" has gotten through.
Information regarding the different lineages of Reiki would be really useful knowledge. There's few "reliable resources" on Reiki. Can't this just be acknowledged at the beginning of the page? Could someone "Reiki friendly" be assigned to watch the page and help Wiki newbies who have good info but low skill safely add their knowledge. I really feel Reiki has gotten a rough deal here.
Another worry is that information that isn't connected to the topic (e.g., the addition of symbol translation of the name - the name of Reiki is widely agreed by practitioners, even from different lineages of the practice, as being slightly different to actual symbols used in Chinese and Japanese language - I can't quote the source on this as my personal material isn't "quotable" and most info on Reiki is passed down teacher to student). It's offensive to get the symbols wrong, as the whole practice is based on the symbols. This can be verified if you talk to any number of practitioners but it would be difficult to find literature on it. Instead, there's over 10 references about the dangers of Reiki as a pseudoscientific healing modality to vulnerable ill people.
Can we make a Reiki page that's a bit more about Reiki? I was about to write a new subheading about Reiki history but thought, why bother, it'll just get deleted.
Please Help!!
TrishApps (talk) 09:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Two chunks of text were recently deleted from the article because they had no supporting references. Wikipedia prefers all statements, and particularly all controversial statements, to be supported by citations of reliable published sources. So, while "different Reiki lineages don't mix or share knowledge", they should not expect their beliefs and opinions to be reflected in the article. Maproom (talk) 09:36, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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- (edit conflict) I know nothing about Reiki (although I do have one edit to the page correcting a misspelling in 2013), so come to this as a neutral.
You appear to misunderstand the way Wikipedia works - you, yourself, state "There's few "reliable resources" on Reiki". That is the fundamental problem, not other editors' attitudes.
Wikipedia only includes information that can be verified in published reliable sources. Your last additions were entirely unsourced, and written in an unencyclopedic tone, and so were, quite correctly, removed. Your previous edits were to remove information that was sourced, and so was, quite correctly, reinstated.
If you write a history of Reiki, citing published reliable sources, it cannot simply be dismissed (although there may be some discussion about whether a source is reliable), but to claim "I can't quote the source on this as my personal material isn't "quotable"" is to misunderstand how we work. - Arjayay (talk) 09:45, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I know nothing about Reiki (although I do have one edit to the page correcting a misspelling in 2013), so come to this as a neutral.
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- I think User:TrishApps may be referring to the many edits in March and April which removed three-quarters of the article, particularly a batch around March 30 and April 1. Rwessel (talk) 09:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi Arjayay, I should have pointed out the dates for easier reference. As Rwessel said, I am referring to the March/April cull. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrishApps (talk • contribs) 09:56, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The March/April deletions were made by SummerPhD, with edit summaries such as "not reliable sources, see talk" and "unsourced". I am sure her reasoning still applies. Maproom (talk) 10:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
hi you should look at Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources_(medicine). thank you --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:57, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- and also WP:FRINGE - we present non scientific clap trap as non scientific clap trap - we dont present its unproven and disproven claims as if they had any basis in reality. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- The original poster said that they would like the article to have "more formal moderation". It is possible to request lightweight moderated discussion at the dispute resolution noticeboard or formal mediation at requests for mediation. However, either of those moderation processes are voluntary. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
BROWNY IFEANYI IGBOEGWU AKA AGBALANZE
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Browny Ifeanyi Igboegwu aka Agbalanze was born on August 30th 1976 in Onitsha (The business hive of West Africa) Anambra state to Late Ide F.M.C Igboegwu KSM (Knight of Saint Mulumba) and Lady Augustina Igboegwu. He had secondary school education at the prestigious All Hallow Seminary Onitsha. He went on to further and is a Graduate of University Nigeria Nsukka UNN, Enugu State in Public Administration Right from the cradle, his love for movies has been close to his heart and that is why in 2005, he decided to take the plunge from the business industry to the Movie industry. In 2009, he met his heartthrob, Becky and they got married in a colourful wedding in 2010 in Asaba, Nigeria’s Nollywood capital The popular saying that talent makes a way for the man has been so true in his life that he has featured in various blockbuster movies well loved by Nigerians and Africans at large like Bank job, Agwumba, Okuko, Days of Sorrow, The University, Strike Force, Agony in the temple, Heart of love, Royal Pain, Eye of the eagle, Silent war, a latest blockbuster, Sons of gods and a host of others He is also the Anambra state chapter chairman of the Actors Guild of Nigeria and the executive National Secretary, Conference of chairmen, Actors Guild of Nigeria where he uses his deep understanding of the movie terrain to provide authentic and purposeful leadership. AWARDS He has received numerous awards within and outside the country from his alma mata to various organizations both small and big, within and outside the movie circle to celebrate his outstanding achievements and his strides towards the continued sustenance and progress of the Nollywood movie industry in Nigeria. 2013 City People Award, Best Supporting Actor (English) 2012 Dream foundation’s outstanding media personality award PHILANTHROPY Interested in children welfare and he is the head of the board of trustees for Brownbourg foundation of his Brownbourg Koncept media agency. His activities include visiting of various orphanages almost monthly and handing out relief materials. His recent visits were to the Divine mercy orphanage and Anglican orphanage both in Asaba, the Delta state capital and home of Nollywood. Also, he has a project called, Street to Star project with is foundation dedicated solely to developing new talents in conjunction with other professional movie academy’s spread across the length and breadth of the country. |
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Barajoeburns (talk • contribs) 10:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hello, Barajoeburns. This is not the place to write a draft article: please read your first article, and I suggest you use the article wizard to create your draft. Please note that everything in a Wikipedia article should be cited to a reliable published source, and almost everything should be cited to what somebody who has nothing to do with the subject has written. You need to find places where people unconnected with Agbalanze have written about him, and had their writing pubished in reliable sources such as major newspapers or books from reliable publishers. If there are no such sources, then it is impossible to write an acceptable article about him at present. --ColinFine (talk) 10:43, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
How do I set up a page?
My name is Terry and I would like to set up a page for an actor in Nigeria — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barajoeburns (talk • contribs) 10:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, Terry: please see my reply to your draft just above. Please also note that setting up a page is not what happens in Wikipedia - it sounds as if you are thinking in terms of a social media site or directory. What we do in Wikipedia is to write neutral articles about notable subjects, based on what independent people have already written about them. Promotion of any kind is forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 10:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- See also:
- and then
- Of course do not skip reading a welcome message, which user TheRedPenOfDoom left on your talk page.
- --CiaPan (talk) 11:28, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Royal Tank Regiment Tactical recognition flash
The Tactical Recognition flash shown on the Royal Tank regiment page is reversed the colours should be brown red green from left to right how can it be changed. i am the regimental Secretary for the RTR and would appreciate it if it was correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.181.181 (talk) 12:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- [10] seems to support you. File:Royal Tank Regiment (tactical recognition flash).PNG was uploaded by User:Hammersfan in 2006. The user is still active (edited 18 minutes ago) and will get a notification of this post. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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- This has now been changed Hammersfan (talk) 12:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Wow, that was fast to upload a new image. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- This has now been changed Hammersfan (talk) 12:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Check date values in: |param1=, |param2=, ...
Hello,
After a recent edit to improve a citation over at Mari Alkatiri (diff) I got a malformed accessdate error for the date "July 13 2015". It referred me to Help:CS1_errors#bad_date which was not entirely helpful.
I couldn't determine what was wrong so I went and looked at the code at Module:Citation/CS1/Date validation. The documentation for the Lua formatDate function (here) tells us that it works the same way as the {{#time}} function (documentation here). But when in my sandbox I tried {{#time:U|July 13 2015}} and
{{#time:U|today + 2 days}} it gave me 1436745600 and 1436918400, respectively, and no errors -- and these timestamps should satisfy the
979516800 <= access_ts and access_ts < tomorrow_ts
check in the code, which makes it seem impossible that this should be an invalid access date.
In a less technical sense I also don't see how "July 13 2015" could possibly be malformed. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance Eniagrom (talk) 13:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I believe that it should be 13 July 2015 instead of July 13 2015 as the month always comes after the date in the accessdate parameter. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 13:12, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- @The Average Wikipedian:: There is no requirement to use DMY dates in
|accessdate=
. If you know of someplace where such a requirement is voiced, please tell us so that we can fix it.
- @The Average Wikipedian:: There is no requirement to use DMY dates in
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- —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- July 13 2015 is missing a required comma per MOS:DATEFORMAT.
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) July 13, 2015 with a comma is allowed. Help:CS1 errors#bad date includes: "date formats listed in WP:BADDATEFORMAT". Below is one of the examples there. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:19, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Acceptable | Unacceptable | Comments |
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July 3, 2001 | July 3 2001 | Comma required between day and year |
- Thanks guys, this is a case of me overcomplicating something that was in fact simple. I appreciate it. Eniagrom (talk) 13:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
"Further reading" But what happens to the documents?
While reading up on the Social Enterprise page, I went to click on some of the links listed for Further Reading. I was saddened to find that many of the documents no longer exist to the link. Why can't these pages forever exist in Wikipedia when they perhaps disappear or are relocated in their reference sites? The internet is ever changing, but I thought Wiki(corporations) were able to collect history in that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.210.223.200 (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you're talking about. All of the external links in the Social enterprise article seem to be working. That said, if you stumble accross one that doesn't work you can always tag it for attention with [dead link] and check the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive for an archived version. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 16:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Bing and Google translators reject all Wikipedia pages
Is there any way to auto-translate an entire Wikipedia page using any service such as Bing Translator or Google Translator? I do NOT mean copy and paste the text into a box. I already know how to do that. I mean where you paste in the URL and then the translator shows you the entire web page so everything looks like the normal original page except the words have been translated.
I am only seeing where Bing and Google refuse to translate any and all Wikipedia pages, I think because they are only https and not http. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auenwald (talk • contribs) 16:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)