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Hi there! I set up this WikiProject, and I followed steps 1-3 in Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Using the bot. Now when I clicked on Run the bot right away, It's says Forbidden (403). Can anyone please guide me with the whole Assessment thing? I'm kinda confused. Sorry. Chihciboy (talk) 07:21, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay responding to you. The wikiproject table does seem to be working at Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Kelly_Clarkson_articles_by_quality_statistics. The "update right now" feature had to be disabled due to problems with the toolserver where the 1.0 bot runs. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
So click here for updates. --Lexein (talk) 08:47, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
- The bot has been back up for a little while - just responding so the thread is clearly marked. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:21, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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- Thank you for letting me know - the bot has been collecting the data, but a separate toolserver issue turns out to have been killing the upload process. I made some tweaks today that should help it, and I will watch it for a few days. The new data is uploaded now [1]. The toolserver is surprisingly flaky, so I depend on error reports to know when a new problem has come up. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:01, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
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Quality stats for Graffiti project?
I'm trying to help make the WikiProject Graffiti look more loved and would be delighted if an article quality stats table could be generated for the tagged articles. Any chance of that? Thanks in advance. Sionk (talk) 10:27, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
- The tables seem to be set up correctly at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Graffiti articles by quality statistics and Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Graffiti articles by quality log. Sorry for the slow response. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:47, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Quality stats and table for WikiProject Discrimination too?
Hey guys, same question here for WikiProject Discrimination. I tried to set everything up according to the instructions. Maybe I missed something?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:44, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
- It seems to be working correctly, although I made one last page. It is at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Discrimination articles by quality statistics and Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Discrimination articles by quality log. I'm sorry for the slow response. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Redirect changes
When the target of a redirect is changed, why is the redirect itself listed as "Renamed" when no files are actually changing names? It seems to me that this should be a separate section apart from true file renamings. Cbbkr (talk) 18:08, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
- "Renamed" means that there was a page A that used to be assessed, but now it is not. When the bot sees this, it then checks whether there is a redirect from A to some other page B. If there is, it will say in the logs that A was renamed to B instead of saying that A is now unassessed and B is now assessed. The bot does not go on to see what else might have happened with the redirects, it just notices that page A is no longer in the assessed articles list and A is a redirect to another page. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:02, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Sortable columns on toolserver?
Would it be possible to make the project and article columns sortable when all WikiProjects are listed on toolserver (i.e. here). As a writer for the Signpost's WikiProject Report, I'd like to easily see which projects are the largest and be able to determine which have been growing most rapidly each month. -Mabeenot (talk) 05:17, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- It is hard to sort that page because the list is broken into separate tables for each letter. Instead I just hacked a quick and dirty report that will show you a sorted list. It is at [2]. However, I know that the counts for all the Biography projects are wrong. Because of toolserver performance problems those are rarely updated. Most of the other projects should be up to date. I will work on making some tweaks to the code to see if I can get the Biography projects to update more regularly. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:13, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
- All the biography projects have been updated since then, so all the data is up to date. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:27, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
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- Thanks! Could we add this to the database reports as a monthly or annual report? -Mabeenot (talk) 03:19, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
Help- Table for Articles by Quality and Importance
I've set up the new Wikipedia: WikiProject Collections Care, and I have tried to follow all the directions in the Version 1.0 guide, but for some reason I cannot seem to get a table in which it displays both Quality and Importance. Even the quality only scale that is showing up on Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Collections Care articles by quality statistics looks different than the usual scale. Can someone please take and look and help me figure out where I went wrong? Thanks -AngelKelley (talk) 20:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Everything seems fine to me. You tagged an article as B-class on 6 October, then the bot generated the table on 10 October with the single entry. Since then you have tagged two more articles on 11 October. The two new articles should be added to the table the next time the bot cycles through your data. If the table still hasn't updated in a week I will be happy to look at the situation again. Road Wizard (talk) 21:03, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking a look. I did tag that article for importance too. Is there a reason the table doesn't show that scale too? And as I tag more articles will the table adjust automatically to look more like the standard table used on WikiProject pages? Sorry for all the questions. I'm not the most tech savvy person in the world :) -AngelKelley (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed your point about importance. I think it is isn't identifying separate columns yet because you just have 1 high importance article. When you have more articles with other quality or importance ratings the table should expand. Don't worry about asking questions, these templates and tables are confusing to everyone in the beginning. Feel free to ask anything else if you have any other issues. Road Wizard (talk) 21:32, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking a look. I did tag that article for importance too. Is there a reason the table doesn't show that scale too? And as I tag more articles will the table adjust automatically to look more like the standard table used on WikiProject pages? Sorry for all the questions. I'm not the most tech savvy person in the world :) -AngelKelley (talk) 21:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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- The table already looks more like a "regular" table. The table only shows the rating levels that it actually noticed the previous time it gathered data from the project. There is often a lag of a day or two, because after you save a change the bot has to gather data from your project (this runs once a day) and then upload the table back to the wiki (this usually happens the next day). Recently, the "update" didn't run one day because of an issue when the toolerver admins changed their job scheduling system; this added another day of delay. But if the categories are correct on the article then the bot will indeed gather the data the next time it runs. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:39, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll tag a few more articles and hopefully the next update pulls it all together. Thanks again. -AngelKelley (talk) 22:25, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
- The table already looks more like a "regular" table. The table only shows the rating levels that it actually noticed the previous time it gathered data from the project. There is often a lag of a day or two, because after you save a change the bot has to gather data from your project (this runs once a day) and then upload the table back to the wiki (this usually happens the next day). Recently, the "update" didn't run one day because of an issue when the toolerver admins changed their job scheduling system; this added another day of delay. But if the categories are correct on the article then the bot will indeed gather the data the next time it runs. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:39, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
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Possible cleanup
is this page, User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/SFBA, unnecessary now that we have User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/San Francisco Bay Area? note the redlinks in the first page.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- The bot stopped updating the first page almost a year ago so there shouldn't be any problem with deleting it from the bot's perspective. However you will lose your project's historic record of article improvements. Whether your project wants to retain that historic record is another question... Road Wizard (talk) 05:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
- Please don't "clean up" any pages in the bot's user space. These are in user space to emphasize that the bot can edit them at any time, even if it seems like they are out of date. The other reason they are in the bot's user space instead of Wikipedia space is to emphasize that they are the responsibility of the maintainer. One reason these are kept is that there is no other record of the past article counts that the bot has generated, and these counts might be of interest to data gatherers, not just to the wikiproject itself. The job of the bot is not just to make current tables - it is to keep a permanent record of old assessments via logs and page histories. — Carl (CBM · talk) 10:54, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Article size
Would it be possible for the tool to display each article's size? This is something that I'm interested in (i.e., comparing the size of articles in the same rating-class). Thanks! Toccata quarta (talk) 22:13, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Here is an initial attempt [3]. It still has a few bugs but it should be in a state where you can try it and let me know if it lets you make the comparison you want. — Carl (CBM · talk) 17:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
WP 1.0 maintainer stepping down
To give myself more time to work on other interests, I am going to step down as the WP 1.0 bot maintainer at the end of November 2012. The WP 1.0 bot is used by over 1,000 wikiprojects and also used to make released offline copies of Wikipedia. I am looking for a new maintainer who is interested in taking over this important job. I want to announce this well in advance to allow for a smooth transition. I am not retiring from Wikipedia as a whole; I am just turning over the bot to someone else.
The new maintainer needs to have some programming skills and experience with Linux/UNIX. But the details of the bot can be learned "on the job"; you don't have to be an expert, and this project would be an ideal way to gain some real experience with a nontrivial bot and web programming project. If you are interested, please let me know or comment here. You are welcome to email me if you would like to discuss things privately.
Here are a few important details:
- The WP 1.0 bot runs in a "multi-maintainer project" on the Wikimedia Toolserver. It is straightforward to get a toolserver account and for the toolserver administrators to add another toolserver account to the project.
- I will be available for consultation during the transition to a new maintainer, and even after someone else takes over. However, I am not looking for a co-maintainer - I am stepping down and a new maintainer is needed.
- There are many interesting things going on, such as the possibility of transitioning the bot to Wikimedia Labs after that becomes fully operational. The new maintainer would be able to help shape the course of the WP 1.0 project.
— Carl (CBM · talk) 17:07, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
- This sounds like an interesting project; I'd be interested in helping out/maintaining it (and am adequately knowledgeable in UNIX-esque fields...although PHP is my language of choice ) -- if you'd like to send me an email to further discuss, I'd be happy to talk! Theopolisme Boo! 17:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
Problem with class flipping
The BOT appears to be having a problem with article Grade I listed buildings in Coventry on WikiProject Coventry and keep flipping the class between Unassessed and FL-class. Cannot see any problem with the talk page that would cause the problem. Can someone take a look. Keith D (talk) 12:52, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- You cannot see it on the wiki, but there is some corruption in the toolserver database, which caused this article to look like it was in multiple assessment categories when the bot consults the toolserver database. On an article by article basis, when problems are noticed, I can fix it by deleting the talk page and restoring it, which cleans up the list of categories in the toolserver database. The global solution is for the toolserver admins to re-import a dump of the enwiki database. They are in the process of working with the WMF admins to get a fresh dump to do that. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
We're having a similar problem at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/English non-league football articles by quality log with Spelthorne Sports F.C.. It keeps flipping between stub and start and has been since 27 October. It should be a start class article. Cheers. Del♉sion23 (talk) 19:27, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it's the same problem. I deleted the page and undeleted it to cause the toolserver database to refresh the categories. There have been some emails on the toolserver-l mailing list about progress on getting a new dump; it will be a few days at least. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:24, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sure that the problem you are dealing with, is one that has affected multiple wikiprojects, but I wanted to provide a few more examples: Gabriel Allon and Ollie Reynolds have shown up on the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Fictional character articles by quality log every day for a week now, with no corresponding activity on their talk pages. And the fluctuating Quality rating has made The Last of the Jedi: Against the Empire appear on Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Star Wars articles by quality log 11 times in the last 2 weeks, and Transformers: Fall of Cybertron has appeared 9 times in the same period on Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Transformers articles by quality log, again with no corresponding activity. Hope that helps! Fortdj33 (talk) 19:26, 7 November 2012 (UTC)