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Tasks on WP:USG.
I updated them. The task under "other" is not showing up. (You have to edit to read it). Perhaps you could fix it? I would do it myself, but I'm tired. Extremely tired. Leonard(Bloom) 06:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Nobel icon
There is a discussion about whether or not to use this icon, at Template talk:Nobel icon. I see you removed it more than once from Al Gore. Your input would be appreciated. Zaian (talk) 12:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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Peer Review Request
Hey Terrier, I currently have the article The Great American Bash (2005) up for Peer review, here. I come to you in hopes of you reviewing the article, as I'm aiming to get this article prepared for Featured Article status. I would really appreciate if you would take some time and review this article to the best of your abilities. Cheers, -- iMatthew T.C. 13:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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retired?
Did you really retire? Burner0718 JibbaJabba! 05:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes I did, but I was only inactive for a week. I am now mostly active once again. « Diligent Terrier (talk) 17:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi
I created this GSIS-Meralco bribery case current article here please visit it, as I proposed for its betterment. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 10:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'll do that. Thanks for the message. « Diligent Terrier (talk) 17:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
RfA thanks
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Whack!
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- Thanks for the trout. That's my first. :P But don't you think the warning template is a bit strong? « Diligent Terrier (talk) 17:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Meetup invite
Wikipedia:Meetup/Gainesville, Florida - in the planning stages, if you're interested. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 17:01, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Invitation
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Adoption request
I saw your large, bright, and unmissable "resume" on the adoptee's area at WP:AAU, and was wondering if you could adopt me. I've been reading and studying the "rules", but I feel that I could still use a little help once-in-awhile. With respect, Northern Romania (talk) 21:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. I'm not on Wikipedia every day, so I'd reccommend that you would get a co-adopter if you need a very active person in your time zone. « Diligent Terrier (talk) 00:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Thank you. I won't need too much, so I do not believe I will get a co-adopter. Northern Romania (talk) 16:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Los Angeles Lakers Newsletter for August 3, 2008
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-- K. Annoyomous24 GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 00:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Yo-
Are you actually online? I need a favor... L'Aquatique[talk] 07:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- What can I do for you? « Diligent Terrier (talk) 13:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I figured since you run a bot you probably have a pretty good grasp on coding. I'm trying to make this template for this guy and I think I've hit a dead end,I'd appreciate it if you'd take a look... User talk:Chrisjnelson#Template help. Thankee... L'Aquatique[talk] 18:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thankspam
That was a vote I've never seen before :D Sorry my nom rubbed you the wrong way; I meant it to be more serious than it probably came off. But in the end, we can't all be admins, and maybe some of us are better off contributing in other ways. Appreciate your weighing in, and will be seeing you around WP. Mr. IP 《Defender of Open Editing》 14:25, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you...
...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 21:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC) |
Invitation (again...)
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Missing you
Hi, EvanS - Created on July 7, 2007 my parent.[1]cur) (last) 16:30, 7 July 2007 Diligent Terrier (Talk | contribs) (66 bytes) (←Created page with 'Hey my name is Evan, and I like to edit pages and post pictures...'): July 7, 2007 events:
- 2007 - Pope Benedict XVI issues the Apostolic Letter Summorum Pontificum, removing restrictions on celebrating the old Tridentine Mass.
- 2007 - Worldwide performances by charity event Live Earth.
So, my question is: Will you not, until now, decide to to post picture of yourself, as you promised on July 7, 2007, I don't believe that my parent is a dog?[2] Just missing you!!! Good luck! --Florentino floro (talk) 12:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
- To answer your question, I don't plan on posting a picture of myself within the near future, but I am planning on re-adding the dog photo to my userpage soon! « Diligent Terrier [talk] 14:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Ding. jj137 (talk) 19:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:Nobel icon
Template:Nobel icon has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Eustress (talk) 16:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
RfA
Noticed your opposition, and just wanted to be clear: the WP:AIV vs WP:ANI thing was a typo. I would never seek to put someone through that just because I had a problem with him/her, but only if I felt it couldn't be resolved. I certainly wouldn't seek such a venue just to relieve stress. I think there may have been a bit of a misunderstanding there. — BQZip01 — talk 16:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Appreciated. Any chance for support? :-) — BQZip01 — talk 17:34, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
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- I'll consider it. :) « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Your signature
Thank you for adjusting your signature. Best wishes. Axl (talk) 17:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm a bit confused ... the only change I made today to my signature was a minor color change. Can you explain please? « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Oh, I never saw that comment, but I find it strange you would read it that way. Either way, it's now been changed. :) « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
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My Status
Hey Dt would you mind fixing my status template? Thanks.--Xp54321 (Hello! • Contribs) 19:19, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Done « Diligent Terrier [talk] 14:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Relisting AfDs
Hey man. You might already know this, but just in case, remember that when you relist a debate, to comment it out of the old log, like this... Tan ǀ 39 20:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'll remember that; thanks for the heads-up! « Diligent Terrier [talk] 20:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Adoption
Hello. I'm not sure exactly how to put this, but how far would you say I am from graduating from the adoption program? My plan is get an experienced adoption. Almost Admin Coaching, but not because the wait is so long. If you would like to put me through some sort of trial, to make sure that I am ready, feel free to do so. I feel I'm ready to graduate from the adoption program. I'll send this to RC also. Cheers.--LAAFan 15:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- I know you've improved since I first adopted you, but whether you think you're ready to graduate is up to you. It would be helpful to know what you mean by 'trial'. You mean like a quiz? I'd be willing to start editor coaching you, but it sounds like you're looking for an admin to do that. Let me know what you decide. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 12:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Actually, no, a final quiz is not mandatory to graduate, and to be honest, I don't have one, but I could probably get one from someone else. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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For making this adoption a great experience, I, LAAFan, award you the adoptor's barnstar LAAFan 19:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC) |
So, yes, I do feel I am ready to graduate. Thanks again. Cheers.--LAAFan 19:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- My reply here. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:27, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Thankyou
Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk) 08:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Adoption request II
Thank you. Northern Romania (talk) 15:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- If you have time... I would like to know more about signatures. I know that they are made of code, but other than looking good and providing links to your talk page, do they serve any purpose? Northern Romania (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Some reasons why people customize their signatures include: easier navigation to talk pages, etc., different formatting so it stands out, colors to keep with the theme of their username or userpage. Would you like a custom signature? « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- I was thinking about it. I don't really want something that "stands out", but I would like something different, yes. Northern Romania (talk) 23:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Let me know of what details you like in terms of font, color, etc., and I will be happy to make you one. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 00:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Sure, I can work on that, but not now. I'm going offline this minute. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 00:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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User RFC
Hi Diligent, the RFC for User:Florentino floro [3] has been up for almost a month now. Have you thought about commenting? maxsch (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
- Did I do something to offend you? You've been contributing lately. You must have seen this. I can only imagine that you are deliberately ignoring my requests. Why? maxsch (talk) 02:32, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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- You've been asking me to comment on the RFC so many times now that it's gotten old. Just because I didn't comment doesn't mean I didn't read your message. I didn't see how your constant hounding deserves a reply. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 14:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Also, when you comment in the same section so many times after the section is old (as you have done before), I am unlikely to see it there. Please consider making a new section. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 14:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Nobel icon talk page
No, that criteria has been used forever for talk pages of deleted categories, templates and the like. Nevertheless, since you want it, I restored it. Garion96 (talk) 21:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I wasn't trying to Wikilawyer on the fact of what the CSD says, but I just thought that CSD was only for articles. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 21:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
re: blog page
I'm going to make a blog that'll be like my own online journal. I'll write entries in it every couple days, and we talk about my life, and my Wikipedia life. I thought of doing it to make my Wikipedia page special and different from others. I hope you read it! --♥Soccer5525♥Talk To Me! 21:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
User:Diligent Terrier/Vandalism
Hi there!
Just a note about your page User:Diligent Terrier/Vandalism. I expect within the next week or two we'll be cleaning out the last of the articles from Category:Dead-end pages from May 2008, which will leave User:Diligent Terrier/Vandalism as the last entry. I see you'll be off wiki for a while, so if we get to the spot where that page is all that's keeping us from nuking the category and I haven't heard from you, I'll boldly update the date to this month on the deadend line of that page.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 13:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Wikipolitics blog?
Hey there,
I'm interested in contributing to the Wikipolitics blog. If you require a sample of writing, there is a link to my personal blog on my userpage.
Cheers, PerfectProposal 15:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I just dropped you an email about this matter. I prefer to discuss non-Wikipedia related things via email. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 17:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Lincolnshire, Illinois for Peer Review
Hi Diligent Terrier...I was hoping that you could take a look at this article. It could use the evaluation, and I could use the experience.
Thanks, --Starstriker7(Say hior see my works) 14:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Good one
Thanks. I needed a laugh. Burner0718 Jibba Jabba! 21:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
RfA thank you
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Floro, Rfc
Hi, I noticed and read this dire comment of administrator User:Rkitko, which, according to the Rfc - there should be - Users who endorse this summary: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Florentino floro[4]: "I would suggest a block the next time a conflict of interest edit is uncovered, such as the pattern of edits seen in Miriam Defensor Santiago, and possible blocks for successive news items that violate WP:NOT#NEWS. Floro should be able to recognize which items are notable by now. Adding non-notable and irrelevant information to the encyclopedia reduces the quality of what we have achieved so far (admittedly, a struggle, but to do destroy the integrity of what has be achieved willingly is not acceptable).
- I hope Floro takes the above advice into consideration and alters his behavior. I have pointed to relevant policies and guidelines. I would also ask that he use common sense in his approach to editing. Before each edit, ask, "Is this a significant piece of information that will improve the article or will it just clutter it up?" If the answer is "no, it's not significant" or "maybe, but not sure", then allow time to pass before proposing it be added to the article. Ask the opinion of others before editing to get a better feel for what is and is not considered good editing. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 00:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)"
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- I take a respectful exception to the above-statement that Ianlopez, Filipino editor (administrator hopeful yet) "He's suffered an ineffective first adopter, User:Ianlopez1115, and a relatively absent second adopter, User:Diligent Terrier." Reason: This is contrary to the confidential email of Ian Lopez to me. The reason why Ian Lopez ceased and desisted from aiding me against Cma and Max, is, confidential, but in sum, Ian wanted not to be more damaged in his administrator quest (From the time that Ian emailed me and asked me to make a graceful exit to Wikipedia). I bluntly emailed Ian: I want to share my wisdom until I am blocked, if I need be blocked. But there are only 2 Filipinos editors who accused me and filed indictment charges against me amid my petitions to block these 2 Cma and Max, which failed. So, I believe in destiny. If any administrator finds any ground to block me, then, the button is there, and I must accept my fate. Ian advised me in the email to immensely pray to our Catholic God [[Psalm 109] and I faithfully did pray this Psalm midnights and daily. These 2 Filipino editors failed to appreciate all my very good contributions in Wikipedia vis-a-vis their upheld accusations above-cited. Hence, if you have time, please file your comment in the Rfc, wise or otherwise. And I am still proud of you no matter what. You are the most diligent parent I could ever have had. I find you objective, and if administrators would vote to block me, so be it. I await my fate, if ever, and under you kind adoption.
- I must add, that, you had not failed me. Never and never. You had been in Wikibreak, retirement, semi-retirement, and so on. I personally understand your life's predicament Evans. There are times that you cannot be a mere Robot in Wikipedia amid so many thankful adoptees you reared. But I and all must respect your privacy and difficult moments. All of us in time need Wikibreaks. I too, had been doing a court pleading these days amid the Rfc, turning to a suggestion for dire blocking on 2 conditions. Regards and cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- I take a respectful exception to the above-statement that Ianlopez, Filipino editor (administrator hopeful yet) "He's suffered an ineffective first adopter, User:Ianlopez1115, and a relatively absent second adopter, User:Diligent Terrier." Reason: This is contrary to the confidential email of Ian Lopez to me. The reason why Ian Lopez ceased and desisted from aiding me against Cma and Max, is, confidential, but in sum, Ian wanted not to be more damaged in his administrator quest (From the time that Ian emailed me and asked me to make a graceful exit to Wikipedia). I bluntly emailed Ian: I want to share my wisdom until I am blocked, if I need be blocked. But there are only 2 Filipinos editors who accused me and filed indictment charges against me amid my petitions to block these 2 Cma and Max, which failed. So, I believe in destiny. If any administrator finds any ground to block me, then, the button is there, and I must accept my fate. Ian advised me in the email to immensely pray to our Catholic God [[Psalm 109] and I faithfully did pray this Psalm midnights and daily. These 2 Filipino editors failed to appreciate all my very good contributions in Wikipedia vis-a-vis their upheld accusations above-cited. Hence, if you have time, please file your comment in the Rfc, wise or otherwise. And I am still proud of you no matter what. You are the most diligent parent I could ever have had. I find you objective, and if administrators would vote to block me, so be it. I await my fate, if ever, and under you kind adoption.
Re: Query on User:Cma vis-a-vis User:Flaminsky
Hi, may I respectfully ask for your time to share your view on this[5]. Essentially, I asked the WP:ANI on the validity of User:Cma vis-a-vis User:Flaminsky, - re vandalism.[6] Thanks.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
FYI, Adopting
Hi DT, just wanted to let you know that I changed your status on the list of adopters [7] at WP:ADOPT to "Not adopting now". If you disagree you can let me know, but I don't think you should take on any new adoptees at this time. maxsch (talk) 21:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- That was completely unnecessary, and you were disrupting Wikipedia (and my time) to illustrate your point. Even worse, you lied in the edit summary, saying that I said I was no longer accepting any adoptees. This is very disappointing. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Dear Terrier
[8] This concerns Wikipedia:Editing policy I explained to Max- I now cite to you this pertinent rule:[9] "Major changes - With large proposed deletions or replacements, it may be best to suggest changes in a discussion, lest the original author be discouraged from posting again. One person's improvement is another's desecration, and nobody likes to see their work destroyed without prior notice. If you make deletions, you should try to explain why you delete their contributions in the article talk page. This could reduce the possibility of reverting wars and unnecessary arguments.
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- Application to the case at bar: I have to re-add your incorrectly deleted contents. In additions, I will notify administrator User:Lenticel who lives there/or near thereat, for comment on this. If Lenticel would delete my re-add, then, it would be for the good of Wikipedia, and I will respect the admin's opinion on this. Now, the mere fact that Mt. Kanlaon was stated to be higher than Mt. Malinis, and contrary to the official link I added as reference, does not matter. It is not for us users to settle this issue. At issue here is bio-diversity plus tourist notability. Your deleting of my edits, then, resulted in great and irreparable damage to Wikipedia, on Valencia and Negros Oriental, especially, that our Philippine Tourism Authority is struggling to earn dollars by scouting for foreigners to visit bio-diverse Mts., inter alia. Now, Born to be Wild (TV series) is a top TV encyclopedic series of our country, not news, for tourism promotion. If you remove the same, it will be detrimental to tourists and readers of Wiki who might be tempted to come to Mt. Talinis.--Florentino floro (talk) 07:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- If, in your considered judgment, a page simply needs to be rewritten or changed substantially, go ahead and do that. But preserve any old contents you think might have some discussion value on the talk page, along with a comment about why you made the change. Even if you delete something that's just plain false, odds are that it got there because someone believed it was true, so preserve a comment to inform later editors that it is in fact false."
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Another thing, Vandalism Talk:Valencia, Negros Oriental I discovered this patent incorrect edit tending to vandalism of my contribution" Max changed [10] my 1865 to 1870, this is not assume good faith, since, this is patent error. This is utterly detrimental to Wikipedia, since, if researchers and students would submit this above sea lever meters to Congress, etc. citing Wikipedia, this encyclopedia might be sued for unreliability, just bacause of Max. or answer their test questions, respectively. It is sad day for Wikipedia, when I diligently do Wiki, and my good edits on Mt. Talinis would be deleted and worst supplied with wrong area. This is serious. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 07:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
non-responsiveness
So, here's the thing. I honestly wonder what you feel your responsibility as an adopter is? You have helped floro with his user page. Bravo. Although, frankly, that page[11] now comes close to violating WP:NOTBLOG, so maybe you haven't helped there as much as you could. But there are clearly major issues with his understanding of wikipedia policy. Why do you refuse to engage with him on those issues? Your silence is enabling his behavior, and therefore you are part of the problem. Furthermore, I am frustrated with you for asking me do a lot of work and then ignoring it. I hope you can understand my position. I came to you, in good faith, when you became floro's adopter, to make you aware of ongoing issues with his editing [12]. This was in early May. You said, and I quote, "I'm reviewing all of these to get the whole story, and I will comment as soon as possible. - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 17:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)" Then, instead of commenting, you said, put it all in this subpage [13]. (Which basically had the effect of hiding it.) So I did, and a big discussion ensued, and you said, and again, I quote "As for the conclusion, I'll write one up one of these days followed by a proposal/agreement that both sides will have to agree to for anything further to happen. If you're anxious for something to get done, I would suggest a user conduct RFC. It would probably get further than a ANI thread. - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)" Note the dates. So, two weeks later, anxious, I started that RFC here[14], per your suggestion, and now, more than a month later, you haven't commented on the RFC and you haven't written up a "proposal/agreement" or any sort of conclusion at User:Diligent Terrier/Florentino floro and Maxschmelling. I wouldn't be angry with you if you hadn't made promises to me that you haven't kept (see [15], [16], [17], [18]). It also seems to me that you've been ignoring floro's recent requests to look at articles he created. Isn't part of being an adopter responding to your adoptees requests, and helping them to understand wikipedia policy? You say I am "hounding" you to respond to the RFC and your mediation page. I write once a week or so, and I intend good faith. I think you are intentionally ignoring those pages, and I don't know why. So I see fit to remind you that you have neglected them. I do think it is your responsibility to say something in both of those places (if you disagree, I am open to hearing that argument). I have said in the past, and I will say it again now, if you don't want to be involved, say "I don't want to be involved" and step down as Floro's adopter. Then I will leave you alone. Otherwise, we're waiting on you. No one wants to make decisions about an adopted user without the adopter's input. maxsch (talk) 18:22, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- To sum up my thoughts shortly, adoption is about helping out the adoptee, not shielding them from attacks by people like you. As an adopter, I feel that I have gone above and beyond what my job is. Most adopters would not have taken the time to review lots of his edits as I did, and start a mediation page, where I am the mediator. You linked to several places where you claimed I hadn't fulfilled my "promises". Well, I believe I have fulfilled every one of the things I planned to do, but you from the very beginning seemed to think I was going to step in here and change Mr. Floro's habits (which have been going on for a very long time) in a matter of days. You've been in this dispute for so long that you've gotten more and more heated as we've gone along, that at this point I would suggest that you just step out. There are enough people already helping Florentino floro that are in on the dispute, such as myself, that he will be taken care of. Let me know if you have any additional specific questions. Thank you. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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- If it was not true, I apologize. I thought you had maybe forgotten that page existed. You have responded to at least one recent request for adoption by saying you are busy and that maybe the prospective adoptee should find someone else. In addition it was clear that you don't look there often, because your entry linked to a long-deleted page. And, yes, I am concerned that you have too many adoptees. Others besides me have expressed the same reservation. I thought if you weren't advertising it would help. And please don't dismiss my concern as "heated." I have behaved in a remarkably level-headed way in all of my encounters with you, and you have been largely evasive. Being evasive tends to rankle people who are trying to communicate. Perhaps you've noticed that. I understand that Wikipedia is a volunteer project. I understand I cannot force anyone to do anything. But I am concerned that you are sending mixed messages (to at least Floro and me) and I want to clarify a little. You must have thought about commenting at the User RFC (it's been up for plenty of time :) ). Why do you remain so reticent even about whether or not you will? And, do you intend to write up some conclusion to your mediation? That was only a good idea if you follow through with it. The issues have not disappeared and they will not, even if I walk away. maxsch (talk) 20:23, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Max, there are these things called real life and time that get in my way. You still don't address the fact that your edit to the adopter's page was not appropriate and that I have gone above and beyond what I'm supposed to do as an adopter. I have definitely not been "largely evasive" and I don't know why you think that. Florentino floro will take time to improve and you have to allow for that. I just don't have any more time for this drama where you say I'm not a competent adopter just because I don't comment at every single debate Florentino floro is involved with and take your side. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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- Look, I don't want to beat this to death. And I don't understand why it is so difficult for us to simply communicate. I can see that you feel you've done a lot for floro (though I have to disagree with your characterization of "other adopters" as somehow less engaged than you). I think I've done a lot for him too. We're both underappreciated. And there's still more to be done. That's sort of a given on wikipedia. Can you try to see my side of it for a moment? This is what I mean by evasive: You suggested that I create a User RFC for floro (I thought that meant you thought it was a good idea and would support it by making helpful comments). I created one (In doing so, the mediation page you hosted was basically abandoned with no conclusion--I put a lot of work in there too, and I think it would still benefit from a conclusion). No consensus has been reached on the RFC (largely for lack of comments), and after it had been up for a month I asked simply and directly if you were going to comment on it. You said, "we'll see, there's no reason for you to be concerned about that." That is both dismissive and evasive. I am concerned that it is going to have been a big waste of my time, not because people don't agree with me, but because it's complicated to look through the history and people can't be bothered to get involved. And when will we see? Within the next few days, floro is going to say it's been up for a month and no consensus has been reached and he is going to ignore all the comments that actually have been made. I'm sorry that you think floro needs to be "protected" from me. To me it sometimes feels the other way around. maxsch (talk) 21:14, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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I never said Floro needs to be protected from you, because on Wikipedia, all users are open to criticism. It's a sad thing that you are resorting to complete lies to get your point across and diminishing my efforts as an adopter. My conclusion with this entire debate right here is that it's just a time consuming road to nowhere and that you don't understand what adoption is — it's not mediation and "review tons of edits your adoptee made and comment on all of them, and tell us whether you would have made them or not". However, you dismiss my explanation of not commenting as 1) incompetent adopter 2) dismissive and evasive, among other things, and instead of sticking to the point you go off on other things like chasing me on something as simple as my photos page, something many other Wikipedians and administrators have and you essentially remove my listing from the adopters page with a complete lie - ("Diligent Terrier is not accepting any more adoptees" you said) I simply will not be taking the bait here, and refuse to take any more of my time and energy with your nonsense. As for my 22 adoptees, without even looking through their late contributions, I estimate that the majority are not very active, so I don't see your point. I have always fulfilled my responsibility as an adopter, and I refuse to drop them. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 21:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Totally unrelated
- The above header was changed to a sub-header to improve readability.
Hi DT, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but since I've been on your talkpage lately, I noticed your User:Diligent Terrier/Gallery subpage. I'm worried it violates WP:NOTWEBHOST. Are you using it to store your own photos? Why not use Wikimedia Commons? It looks like a PROD candidate to me, but I thought I'd give you a chance to think about whether you should have it or not. Not a vendetta, just a policy issue. maxsch (talk) 21:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm a bit surprised that you've never seen a user gallery before. The photos displayed there are photos I have uploaded for use in articles, and that page is used to display all of them. If you look closely you'll see that many of them already are on Wikimedia Commons. If you think it violates WP:NOT#WEBHOST, I believe you need to get a better grasp of what that policy is about. TONS of people have these, including admins. But go ahead and WP:MfD it if you wish and it will be snowballed. Have a nice day. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 18:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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If you don't see the point of this page, then go ahead and nominate it at MfD. If your nom succeeds, then it's likely that you're right. But it would mean that everyone else is wrong in having their own photo pages. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 22:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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Ignore, let us do our work in Wiki amid disruptive editing
My philosophy in Wikipedia, as I learned by browsing D. Terrier's tons of contributiosn via Evans-Terrier's Archives 1-8 is: Ignore disruptive editors like Max and Cma - who have no aim but to pester, then block good users who desire to improve and share wisdom in Wiki. Since my registration here in July 2007, only Cma and Max did pester and stalked upon me amid 2 adopters. This is a critical fact which cannot just be lightly set aside.
- By way of rejoinder, I opted not to drop D. Terrier as my parent when I asked apology (when last time he posted the template retired, but later changed the template to semi-retired then, now alive, sharing us/Wikipedia, Diligent wisdom). In fact, Admin. John Carter sent me a message of willingness to adopt me, as I requested protection against Max and Cma vis-a-vis my diligent parent Ian Lopez's forced resignation message duly emailed to me with confidential but painful admission of Cma and Max's brazen attempt to block my account via distorting Wikipedia policies.
- I opted to retain D. Terrier, even if I have a choice to choose other powerful Wiki admin-adopters in the long list, since I was so much SHOCKED, I use the word shock, when I accidentally browsed Evans-Archives 1-7, which is totally nightmare editing for Wikipedia. D. Terrier is hidden administrator now, was administrator with BUTTONS to block. LET it be remembered, that I never posted the template of adoption to Evans-Terrier or anybody, but destiny dictated Terrier to succeed IanLopez in rearing me.
- IN SUM, D. Terrier is so fair, impartial and tender-loving parent. Terrier called me "poor editor" and I never complained. I am the smallest dwarf compared to Terrier's Immortal contributions to Wikipedia, Terrier will never be forgotten. And I am proud to be under Terrier. If I am blocked here, I will always ask Terrier's help, no matter what. Terrier never sided with me. Terrier completely IGNORED most of my messages, since Terrier acts and acted with the cold neutrality of an impartial judge. I am also proud of my parent Ian Lopez a Laguna very wealthy businessman at age 16, high school, of the Arturo D. Brion line and close relationship. Ian never ever was lazy nor failed me. But he opted, as Filipino to stay away from all these. From now on, I will leave my Wikipedia Faith and fate, to D. Terrier, with all trust and confidence as an orphan child to a parent. Terrier was never ever criticized in any of his adoption cases. May Wikipedia be great with immortal contributors like my parent, and I tell yeah, no one can argue otherwise on this belief, upon my parent. If Max and Cma are dying to block me, so be it, the button is there, but I have full Faith in Terrier. Cheers, and good luck. --Florentino floro (talk) 07:43, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
- I opted to retain D. Terrier, even if I have a choice to choose other powerful Wiki admin-adopters in the long list, since I was so much SHOCKED, I use the word shock, when I accidentally browsed Evans-Archives 1-7, which is totally nightmare editing for Wikipedia. D. Terrier is hidden administrator now, was administrator with BUTTONS to block. LET it be remembered, that I never posted the template of adoption to Evans-Terrier or anybody, but destiny dictated Terrier to succeed IanLopez in rearing me.
I never recall calling you a "poor editor" - if I did would you mind point to the diff? If I did (which I'm pretty sure I didn't) I apologize in advance. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 21:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- It may be magic, or illusion, but I have loved you, as I did love my deceased parents, no matter what. Imagine your Archives 1-8, shocking contributions - I would call immortality. Now, on Information Technology, I consider myself poor editor, since, I really need to learn many things on IT, such as how to archive, how to revert with twinkle, etc. But I do not want to revert, I only care for my edits, and 98%, I do not watch them, having full trust on editors to do edits of my edits, edited by others. BTW, I saw the TV-here of Evan Almighty and it is heart warming: YOU. Hope we meet someday, not bilocation, of course. We need humor. Good luck, I bestow upon, thee.--Florentino floro (talk) 12:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, request for examination of fact and error
May I please ask your time on this serious matter. I received a message thusly: "Floro, your behavior is becoming increasingly erratic and troubling. You blame others for mistakes that you yourself made, and refuse to apologize when confronted by it. This is not acceptable. TheCoffee (talk) 12:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)"
- Forthwith I replied that contrary to facts supported by links and history tab, it was Max and not I who made the error on 1864 to 1870 change of above sea level figure, which matter is minor, yet, I asked clarification from Max. I fully explained to administrator TheCoffee via my message of "Reply, Request for Clarification on Fact of editing and Review of Comparative edits to determine the error."[19] and [20]. With utter good faith, assume good faith, I had tried to pacify Max and Cma but it reached to this, and I am blamed here, towards my blocking. I sincerely believe, that TRUTH will prevail, since all my life, I, The Coffee and Gma or[21]Dominique Gerald Cimafranca are all alumni/students of Ateneo de Manila and we cherish our ideals of justice, fair play and Faith. It is a sad day for Wikipedia, if I would be continually perturbed amid the fact that I tried my best with the help of my parent D. Terrier to avoid all these. I believe in Wikipedia's philosophy of wisdom and ethics. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 13:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, could you please clarify what your request for me to do is? Thanks, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 21:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it's my place, but the issue here surrounds edits on three pages about Mount Talinis. The pages at issue are Negros Oriental, Valencia, Negros Oriental and Dumaguete City. I removed floro's edits (the same edit) from all three pages, with explanations. On the Valencia, Negros Oriental page and my talkpage, floro accused me of putting in the wrong elevation for the mountain, when, in fact the elevation that he claimed was wrong had been put in the article a month earlier, by him. It's actually rather funny, except for the fact that he berated me for something I didn't do on 4 or 5 other editors' talkpages. I'm not sure what he wants you to do either, but I hope this points you in the right direction. Cheers. maxsch (talk) 00:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Neutrality Tag
Hello,
I have added a tag to the Barack Obama article requesting that it be checked for neutrality. Since you’re a peer review volunteer I thought you might be interesting in coming in as a neutral editor and checking the article out. QuirkyAndSuch (talk) 11:05, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
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Again my adoption dialogue
Unfortunately, I'm having a bit of trouble with this code, don't you agree... what is it that I did wrong? [[<font color="#4169E1">User:Northern Romania|Northern</font>]] [[<font color="#008080">User talk:Northern Romania|Romania</font>]] <sub><small>[[User:Northern Romania|Pentru nordul României]]</sub></small> (talk) 16:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Northern Romania: I have fixed it for you. You can view it below. The code for the signature is in the box below your signature. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 21:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hope this works now. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 21:16, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. <font color="#4169E1">[[User:Northern Romania|Northern]]</font> <font color="#008080">[[User talk:Northern Romania|Romania]]</font> <sub><small>[[User:Northern Romania|Pentru nordul României]]</sub></small> (talk) 22:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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Changes at mediation page
Hi DT, you might notice that I made some changes at the mediation page User:Diligent Terrier/Florentino floro and Maxschmelling. They should be uncontroversial, I only changed headings where comments of mine were reproduced by in the page by floro and not actually posted there by me. I was trying to clean it up a little, because I feel like it starts to get a little unreadable and the issues muddled in the second half. maxsch (talk) 05:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Completely understood. The only edit I undid was one where you removed a small and legit comment from Florentino floro. I see you have not removed his comment again, so, thanks. « Diligent Terrier [talk] 20:05, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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Just asking
Hello, howdy, know you are too busy. It is fun here in Philippines with the greatest event of the year Kadayawan sa Davao City fest, the most colorful ever. I posted a quite long TLDR for your perusal, if it is really too long. I need to sum up some points. Please take time to file answer to my query, just 2 sentences will satisfy me. I am not stressing the C-130[22] and the dire tragedy[23] in Miriam Defensor Santiago, since I am 100% skeptic and these things are just coincidences, and no Psalm 109 can do "Look no hands please". We need humor here, lest we be exhausted. I know you read between the lines, when I said I move things. I am not sarcastic since I value and respect all those who submit comment in Rfc. I sent some messages to users on the Rfc. "Hi, greetings. Please, if you may have some free time, visit my query to my parent User:Diligent Terrier here in User:Diligent Terrier/Florentino floro and Maxschmelling[24] where some users had recently filed comments. This is in relation to the present Rfc Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Florentino floro. I fast traveled to Ateneo de Davao and Iloilo City to meet some small Filipino friends, on the dire dates. This is my moment and no one can take it away from me. Cheers.--Florentino floro (talk) 12:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Have a good time! Let me know if there's anything you need. Cheers, « Diligent Terrier [talk] 19:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Cookie: I Have a Dream
I cannot predict if you vote for this tan not black guy, I say, or not, but I put this in my user page, since I am apolitical, never voted since 1965; and I stress, I never found kindness in my own country and from my own school, but from:[25]
![I Have a Dream - Floro never found kindness in his country, but in the hearts of Wikipedia foreign editors and « Diligent Terrier [talk]](https://web.archive.org/web/20080910081437im_/http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Biden_Obama_3b.jpg/275px-Biden_Obama_3b.jpg)
Cma and Max are really on to block me no matter what: Can a Filipino editor be blocked upon request-repeated-posts by only one[26]co-Filipino-editor-co-Ateneo de Manila alumni Wiki editor and one Max?
Here again.[27]-User:WhatamIdoing No need to waste your vacation time for this, just giving you more time for fun. Just that I am being the therapy of their twin-rages kitchen sink so to speak, huh.
- I am a bit confused, now, if Max and Cma wanted you, and not me blocked; oh, please eat the cookies and have more fun. Maybe this is not important. "The fact that you have an adopter does not entitle you to ignore the advice of other editors. I have always approached you in good faith, giving suggestions that could help you become a better wikipedian. If you end up getting blocked for stubborn refusal to learn, it will not be my fault. It will be yours. You should not add the exact same content to multiple pages, as you did again yesterday. And I think you misunderstand what User:Susanbryce means by psychopathic stalkers. I only watch your edits, and I do so for the betterment of wikipedia. I don't appreciate being called a stalker. It doesn't encourage harmony. maxsch (talk) 04:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)"[28]--Florentino floro (talk) 07:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
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Roman Catholic Church
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Hey, since I'm on and off editing, I was wondering if you could take care of the request here. (Also, feel free to take care of any other request put in there) Thanks for the help! « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie » 01:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)