Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion
How to propose a new stub type.
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This page only deals with the deletion and renaming of stub types, which consist of a template and a category, and are intended to be used for sorting stubs. Stub templates that are missing categories and stub categories without associated templates are also appropriate here. All other templates or categories nominated for deletion or renaming have to be put on Templates for discussion or Categories for discussion, respectively.
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WikiProject Stub sorting |
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Project page | talk |
- Stub types (sections) | talk |
- Stub types (full list) | talk |
- List of stub redirects | talk |
- Naming guidelines | |
- To do | talk |
Wikipedia:Stub | talk |
Discussion | |
Criteria (A) | talk |
Proposals (A) | talk |
Discoveries (A) | talk |
Deletion (Log) | talk |
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About this page
This page is for the proposal, discussion, and voting on deletion or renaming of stub categories, stub templates, and stub redirects. Centralizing the vote on these three closely related matters on one page reduces the need for repeating identical arguments on several different Wikipedia deletion pages (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion, Wikipedia:Templates for deletion, and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion) and also reduces the workload on those pages.
This page is still named "Stub types for deletion" for two reasons. Firstly, many of the stub types brought here arrive here after rudimentary discussion has already taken place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. Secondly, renaming automatically implies some form of deletion. The renaming of a stub category leads to the replacement and deletion of the older category, and the renaming of a stub template usually (but not always) leads to the deletion of the previous template name, as stub template redirects are rarely used (for the reasons for this, see the stub naming guidelines).
Putting a stub type on Stub types for deletion (SfD), and what happens afterwards
- Mark the affected pages:
- For deletion:
- For renaming:
- Put {{sfr-t|New-name}} (parameter optional) on stub templates
- Put {{sfr-c|New name}} (parameter optional) on stub categories
- Put {{sfr-r|New name}} (parameter optional) on stub redirects (Redirects should be nominated for renaming only as part of a mass renaming that includes templates that share the name element to be renamed that the redirect uses.)
- List the stub type below in a new subsection . If that section does not yet exist, create it.
- Mention all affected pages in the subheading, like this:
==== {{tl|banana stub}} / [[:Category:Banana stubs]] / {{tl|YellowCurvyFruit-stub}} (redirect) ==== - Also mention how many articles currently use the template, and if it is listed anywhere else.
- Of course, state your reason for nominating the stub type!
- Mention all affected pages in the subheading, like this:
- It is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors to the stub that you are nominating the stub. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the stub.
- After a voting period of seven days, action will be taken if there is consensus on the fate of the stub type. Please do not act before this period is over.
- Archived discussions are logged here, and are marked with {{sfd top}} and {{sfd bottom}}, indicating whether category and template were renamed, deleted, or no action taken.
Putting {{sfd-r}} or {{sfr-r}} on redirects
Given that the {{sfd-r}} and {{sfd-r}} templates break redirection, it is necessary to change a stub redirect when adding the template, as follows:
#Redirect [[Template:Example-stub]]
should be changed to:
{{sfd-r}}{{Example-stub}}
Possible reasons for the deletion of a stub type
- They are not used in any article, and their category is empty
- They overlap with other stub categories, or duplicate them outright
- Their scope is too limited - As a rule of thumb, there should be at least 50 appropriate stubs in existence
- Their scope is too ambiguous or vague - in these cases, renaming may be more appropriate than outright deletion
- The stub category or template is misnamed. In this case, make this clear when nominating and propose a new category or template name. Note that - in the case of a template but not a category - it may be more appropriate to make it into a redirect.
- They are malformed, misnamed, or deprecated redirects
What this page is not for
- Patently nonsensical or insulting stub types — they may be speedily deleted.
- Empty categories with no corresponding template — they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD) criterion C1).
- Recently created stub types not used on any articles — they may be speedily deleted (after 4 days, as per WP:CSD criterion C1). This does not apply to types properly proposed and accepted which have not yet been populated.
- Malformed stub types to which no further deletion reasons apply — fix them or tell the Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting.
- Stub templates that were not approved by the WikiProject Stub sorting (again, unless other reasons apply) — list those on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries. From there, they may later be taken to this page
- Stub categories that are too large — these are not deleted, even if they get subdivided.
Typical voting options
- Keep (do not delete or modify)
- Delete (delete template and category)
- Merge with xx-stub (delete category, keep template (either as redirect to, or feeding into the same category as, xx-stub))
- Merge with xx-stub without redirect (delete category and template, put xx-stub on all articles that use it)
- Upmerge (merge to parent stub type)
- Change scope (reword the template, typically giving it either a larger or more precise scope. Usually also means renaming the category)
- BJAODN (add to Wikipedia:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense, then delete)
When voting, please try to give a more substantial reason than simply "I like it/find it useful" or "I dislike it/don't find it useful".
Renaming options
- Rename/Support
- (for templates: move to new name, replace existing usages, delete redirect);
- (for categories: recreate category page under new name, repopulate, delete old category).
- Rename, keep redirect/Move (for templates only: move, but don't replace usages of existing template)
- Oppose (no move of template, and/or deletion and recreation of category)
- DO NOT rename any stub type that has been nominated here while discussion is still in progress. Any necessary renaming will be done when the discussion is closed.
- If you wish to argue for the deletion of a template or category nominated for renaming, please re-tag with {{sfd-t}}/{{sfd-c}}, and note the date of doing so, so as to ensure proper consideration of this new nomination.
If a template is speedily renamed, similarly re-tag the resultant redirect if deletion of that is desired.
Note to non-administrators
If a category and/or stub deletion is agreed upon and you're helping to change the stubs on those pages: Once you've emptied the category, please note the category on this page under the "To Delete" section that the stub category section is empty ("orphaned") and "ready to be deleted" to the administrators.
Note to administrators deleting stub types
It is important for consistency, and to avoid confusion on the parts of stub-sorters that stub types be removed from the stub type list when they are deleted. Please don't leave red links on Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types!
Listings
December 3
{{Harry-Potter-stub}}
Unproposed - if it had been, the creator of it would have been told that there is already a stub type for Harry Potter, {{HarryPotter-stub}}, which conforms to stub naming (the nominated duplicate does not, since it isn't a subtype of Potter-stub). What's more, the nominated template has a non-GFDL image, which is against WP rules. Delete. Grutness...wha? 02:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
December 1
Cat:Norwegian television stubs / {{Norway-tv-stub}}
No growth since February; used on 10 items. Upmerge to Cat:European television stubs. (Previous discussion here.) Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:10, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
{{Exercise physiology-stub}}
See previous discussion here; unused since February, not well formed, no cat, and not currently needed. Delete. Her Pegship (tis herself) 05:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Category:Serbian building and structure stubs
Moved from WP:CFD
- Category:Serbian building and structure stubs -
- Nominator's rationale: Found this in orphanage, found some parents, but this doesn't seem to have come out of the stub folks' realm but was just created, has two articles which may indicate that it's new and not yet populated or that it's creation is unwarranted at this time. I know many people who participate in CFDs are stub sorters so I'll see what you think. Carlossuarez46 23:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- It is an odd one - a cat manually added (no template), but looking at the articles the reason is clear - someone has added the Romania-struct-stub to these two articles on dams that span the border. An upmerged Serbia-struct-stub is a reasonable idea, but (as I said) upmerged, so this category is not needed. Grutness...wha? 23:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
November 22
{{StarCraft-stub}} / Category:StarCraft Stubs
Moved from requests for speedy renaming. Single use w/template. SkierRMH (talk) 20:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- At the very least the category name needs changing to , but unless it is in heavy use soon, it seems fairly pointless. The creator of it did comment on my user talk page that he'd foud some stubs for it, but it still doesn't seem to be in much use. Upmerging the template and deleting the category may still be the best option. Grutness...wha? 23:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete—looks too narrow to me. Pagrashtak 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
November 21
Cat:Sitcom television series stubs & Cat:Sitcom episode stubs (no templates)
Created in an interesting, but obviously well-meant, cart/horse reversal. Not needed (only 36 articles qualify) and covered by Cat:Comedy television series stubs. Delete. Her Pegship (tis herself) 15:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Unnecessary, and - as you say - weirdly created. Delete. Grutness...wha? 23:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Old business
November 2
Various Cat:Ohio Registered Historic Places building and structure stubs templates
From Discoveries: There are 46 templates which are of the form Ohio-countyname-NRHP-struct-stub and 8 of the form Ohio-countyname-NRHP-dist-stub for structures and districts respectively in Ohio. These should be renamed to countynameOH-NRHP-struct-stub to conform to the precedent set by the split of Ohio-school-stub, Florida-NRHP-struct-stub and vaious other splits of US states. Note when announced at discoveries I did not realise that some were for districts do we split these out in any other state. (PS I think I tagegd them all 54 with sfd-t.) Waacstats 14:05, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
- Districts of what sort? Which templates would those be? Alai 01:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- The district ones worry me a little, too... certainly go ahead and rename the others to standard form, though. Grutness...wha? 01:07, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- The district ones appear to be for places on the NRHP list and designated as districts, but I'don't know much about the NRHP.Waacstats 12:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- Can you give an example? Alai 19:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- {{Ohio-Ashtabula-NRHP-dist-stub}}. Waacstats 20:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Aaaaah. OK, that does seem a little wonky: it doesn't appear to be a B&S type, so it should be upmerged to Cat:Ohio Registered Historic Place stubs, or else perhaps to a , if there's the numbers for it. Perhaps the templates should also be -geo- ones, though having them on a per-county basis looks like massive overkill, at this point. Alai 21:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- {{Ohio-Ashtabula-NRHP-dist-stub}}. Waacstats 20:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Can you give an example? Alai 19:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
- The district ones appear to be for places on the NRHP list and designated as districts, but I'don't know much about the NRHP.Waacstats 12:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
For that matter, the parent category should be renamed {{Ohio-NRHP-stub}} / Cat:Ohio Registered Historic Place stubs (it's currently {{Ohio-NRHP-struct-stub}} / Cat:Ohio Registered Historic Places building and structure stubs). Do we need to nominate that separately or can it be addressed here? Her Pegship (tis herself) 17:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)- Oops, I get it now. It wouldn't need renaming, but we could certainly create {{Ohio-NRHP-stub}} and Cat:Ohio Registered Historic Place stubs to house the district/county/non-B&S types. Her Pegship (tis herself) 20:00, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
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To orphan
Stub types in this section have been deemed deletable and have to be removed from all articles using them, so that they can be deleted.
To delete
Stub types in this section have been orphaned and can be deleted.
Listings to log
Stub types with completed discussions which have not yet been logged; remove from this page entirely when logged. Anyone can do this, not just an admin; please see the directions at Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log.