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Challenge Cup semi final
Request Challenge Cup semi final be moved to draft space as article is incomplete and unreferenced. Mn1548 (talk) 20:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- To be honest, it should probably be sent to AfD, as it's already been PROD'ed a couple of times. Semi finals aren't really notable enough to be considered anything more than trivia. J Mo 101 (talk) 23:51, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
- If we take FA Cup semi-finals, the Challenge Cup article has the potential to be a well written article, but agree it shouldn't exist in the mainspace in its current state. Mn1548 (talk) 09:24, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- No further discussion will move to draft for now. Mn1548 (talk) 09:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Was his move to Manley a loan, if KR had the power to recall him after three years? Mn1548 (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Manly paid £15,000 to sign Lowe for three years, after which he would either return to Rovers on a free transfer, or stay with Manly a further two years if an additional £10,000 was paid (which of course the two clubs later disagreed over). I don't think it was really a loan, the RFL were still using the Retain and transfer system at the time, so presumably Rovers kept him on the club register so he couldn't sign for another club when he returned to England. J Mo 101 (talk) 15:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Incorrect DOBs added by User:Hugh 3476
Just a friendly reminder to adhere to WP:RELIABILITY and WP:NOR when editing, and to check for incorrect information in articles if possible! I've noticed several players of the pre-WWII era had unsourced DOBs listed which were incorrect and not even similar to the correct date. It appears these were added by User:Hugh 3476 (since banned for unrelated reasons) around 2018-19 and remained on the pages uncontested ever since. Some examples:
- Roy Bossi: Hugh's edit, my correction
- Tom Nevin: Hugh's edit, my correction
- Charles Rice (rugby league): Hugh's edit, my correction
- Stan Robinson (rugby league): Hugh's edit, my correction
- Clarrie Tupper: Hugh's edit, my correction
Narkova (talk) 10:20, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Moral of the story, any IP that's 1.14x.xxx.xxx, or 1.12x.xxx.xxx be suspicious of. Local Potentate (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Asia-Pacific Rugby League contradiction
Infbox states organisation is based in Brisbane whereas history section says it is based in Auckland. Both are unsourced. Mn1548 (talk) 16:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
- Someone changed it to Brisbane without a source. I've switched it back as the official site says Auckland. J Mo 101 (talk) 17:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm currently working on an update for this article (last updated in 2018), there's been a large turnover of players since then!
I'll be adding all new players since then, using Heritage Numbers | Hull FC as my primary reference, alongside other sources.
As part of this refresh, I plan to add a Heritage No. column (to bring it in line with corresponding lists articles for Featherstone, Oldham, Halifax, Leeds, Saints etc, plus the Aussie clubs).
I've been in touch with J Mo 101, who has put me straight on Heritage No. in the main player articles, so thanks for that.
Before I press the button, does anyone have any objections, or advice? All feedback gratefully received.
Robinson Drinkald (talk) 11:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- The only thing I would note is that the page is already quite large (over 300kb), which can slow down loading times etc, but removing all the duplicate links in the season columns would help with that. No issues otherwise, editing those huge lists can be a bit of a mammoth task, so appreciate the effort!. J Mo 101 (talk) 13:17, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Player infobox clarification
Regarding notability of clubs in rugby league players' infoboxes per MOS - rule "Players 3.a.ii" is in desperate need of clarification. I have noticed removal / absence of NSW Cup and Queensland Cup club statistics based off the fact that they are second tier competitions, despite being more notable clubs (rule 3.a.i) and actually having a Wikipedia page (rule 3.a.iii) than other clubs that would theoretically qualify with rule 3.a.ii. For example, as currently written, Lillestrøm Lions would qualify under rule 3.a.ii (as they are a Norwegian FIRST division team) but not Western Suburbs Magpies (as they are an Australian SECOND division team). In short, the rule excludes clubs that are way more notable than some of the clubs it includes. Mn1548 (talk) 22:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- It could be time to review and update the MOS as it was written in 2008. The talk page archives for the infobox show various discussions from the time about what the infobox should include, but consensus on this may have changed given that most of the editors involved are no longer active and several of them were the same editor (later banned as a sockpuppet). EdwardUK (talk) 03:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I honestly had no idea that MOS page even existed. My understanding has always been that the following should be included:
- UK: All teams in the top three divisions
- Australia: NRL teams only (or NSWRL/Brisbane League for pre-NRL). Modern day Queensland Cup teams etc are generally excluded as they are considered "reserve grade" (with most of them being NRL feeder clubs).
- There isn't really a consensus for clubs in other countries, as far as I know, but really obscure/amateur clubs should obviously be removed regardless of division. J Mo 101 (talk) 18:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- For other countries and lower level competitions a lack of sources could be a problem. I would not be opposed to including NSW/Queensland Cup teams and there are sources for them on sites like RugbyLeagueProject. This would be helpful for internationals playing for teams like PNG for whom the infobox would otherwise be almost empty if all their club appearances are for PNG Hunters. For affiliated clubs the names are easy to distinguish from the NRL sides, but to avoid confusion between NRL and their reserve grade sides their stats could be listed separately and marked as such by adding (NSW) after the team name (similar to how loans/dual registrations are noted). EdwardUK (talk) 21:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I honestly had no idea that MOS page even existed. My understanding has always been that the following should be included: