Henrik.karlstrom
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09 May 2012
- Suspected sockpuppets
- Henrik.karlstrom (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Spacech45 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 86.178.30.102 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Altetendekrabbe (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- 109.150.60.218 (talk · · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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SPA's with few edits flocking to the same article in support of the other. This has conspicuously occurred at Talk:British Pakistanis and and there is clear overlap on subjects involving Islam in Norway. 86.178.30.102 explicitly stated that he was Nangparbat. I am not sure of the puppet master.Ankh.Morpork 15:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I think this should make it clear they edit the same articles about Islam and Norway [1]--Shrike (talk) 15:36, 9 May 2012 (UTC) An example of Henrik.karlstrom and Altetendekrabbe supporting each other. Ankh.Morpork 21:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
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right so now I am a sock just because I opposed your anti Pakistani rantings? Spacech45 (talk) 15:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- I would like admins to take a look at his [2] he believes this does not merite inclusion with a excuse of "nothing to do with american jews" but he insists on the British Pakistani page to include gang rape incident blatant pov pushing bordering on islamophobia Spacech45 (talk) 15:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
mr pork has a no-good agenda. it's pretty clear when we look at his edits on the british pakistani page or other pages. UTTER DISTGUSTING.-- altetendekrabbe 16:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Altetendekrabbe has sent me an e-mail informing me of this discussion, as he is currently blocked. I don't believe that this is a case of sockpuppetry, whatever it is. I have been editing on several articles with Altetendekrabbe for a while (since the 2011 Norway attacks, to be specific), and I don't believe that this is him. Altetendekrabbe may at times be a loudmouth and uncivil, but he has also made some very valuable contributions to the project. To me it appears as quite out of character for him to create a user using the name of a real life Norwegian in order to make a few edits. From the information he has sent me, it appears that he lives in the southeastern part of Norway. Judging by Henrik Karlstrøm's page at the University of Trondheim, he should be living in that area. Is it possible to use this information in an IP address investigation? --benjamil (talk) 22:39, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- By "that area", I mean the Trondheim area, which is more than 500 kilometers away. --benjamil (talk) 22:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
This has been an amusing read. User:Henrik.karlstrom's fist edit about an Islam-related article referring to Wikipedia policy of WP:COATRACK. Pretty nice for a newcomer Wikipedian to be referring to a pretty unknown policy! But the funniest thing is that I've noticed before (unrelated to this investigation) that Altetendekrabbe seems to do a lot of removals just quoting WP:COATRACK in the edit summary. I asked about it on his talk page. It is pretty amazing that people with only so few edits, all of them in articles related to Islam, the Pakistanis or Norwegian right-wingers, seem to have so similar editing patterns. Either there is atleast some sock-puppetry, or then there are a lot of Norwegians obsessed about Islam, Pakistani nationalism and Jews or social conservatives, and they cooperate somehow. It is simply impossible that these persons do not communicate in any way as their editing patterns are so similar and some have just registered here to voice support to for the master on an article talk page. Of course there's nothing wrong about editing with people you know, but if it is based on the idea that other editors are right-wing idiots and the company is just wanting to establish a concensus on an article they're interested in, it may be a problem. --Pudeo' 02:06, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- not strange at all [3].-- altetendekrabbe 06:23, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
comment I think its very strange as soon User:Altetendekrabbe was blocked User:Henrik.karlstromcontinued edit war instead of him.If it not socking its to very least wp:meat. Its also interesting to note that this university have remote connection.[4] so you can be 500 km away and still have universtiy IP--Shrike (talk) 08:51, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
Spacech45 is actually Nangparbat (talk · contribs) and should be blocked accordingly. Still reviewing other info. TNXMan 16:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- Tnxman asked me to take a second look. Henrik.karlstrom and Altentekrabbe are technically Likely and Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me. Spacech45 and the IP are both Nangparbat. There was some Unrelated collateral - if Altenkrabbe socks again, watch out for this. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:34, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- Following the info given above, and an unblock appeal, I've had a further review of Henrik.karlstrom, and so has JPGordon. It looks like this is a false positive, so I have unblocked Henrik.karlstrom. Altentekrabbe had been blocked for 24 hrs by Malik Shabbaz before I blocked him, so I'll let that block time out. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
- In response to further comments above. I do not now think the technical evidence supports the sock accusation against the two Norwegian accounts. As for MEAT, that implies that one editor is directing the activity of another editor. Merely sharing the same opinion is not grounds for a finding. Not possessing superpowers, I cannot comment on whether these editors know each other, but that's not prohibited either. However, all editors in the area should take care to remain civil and not edit war - and use reliable sources rather than invective and accusation. And Nangparbat should knock it off. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:19, 11 May 2012 (UTC)