- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: Keep Legacypac's fresh version in draft space, but WP:REVDEL versions of this page based on the deleted article. — Amakuru (talk) 08:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Draft:IOTA (cryptocurrency)
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This is a copy of an article which was deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IOTA (technology) and repeatedly recreated (and SALTED) since (see IOTA (technology), IOTA (cryptocurrency) and IOTA (Distributed Ledger Technology).
The editor who copied in the current content did so without attribution per WP:CWW and after at least two recreations of the article in article space before it was SALTed; the same editor then contested speedy deletion, hence my bringing it here. (See also Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Indef request for Comefrombeyond.) Dorsetonian (talk) 19:21, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- This is a good faith nomination, as the page as it stood when it was nominated (here) was completely unacceptable. I just went through article carefully and removed everything that was unsourced, sourced to SPS like their website or press releases, and other unreliable sources (there was a Forbes contributor piece in there), and there is is nothing left. I fully recognize that in doing so, I ignored the instruction in the MfD template not to blank the page. A bit of IAR to try to deal with this difficult situation.
- But please don't delete this page. We need a place in draft space for the Iota folks to work in good faith. This is a very active ... problem. I think there can be an article about Iota and it will be better to guide their energy and advocacy into productive channels rather than trying to completely shut it off. Draft space is the appropriate place for them to work. Please leave this so they have a place to work. Jytdog (talk) 19:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- btw apologies - I didn't mean to delete the MfD notice. Thanks for restoring it. Jytdog (talk) 20:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- As you have pared the draft article right back to nothing but an infobox, are you not effectively agreeing with deletion of the content? Full-on deletion will resolve the attribution issue and help ensure that any new draft is built from the ground up. Dorsetonian (talk) 20:09, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- I want to keep the page here in draft space so they have some place to work. yes the content was completely unacceptable. Jytdog (talk) 20:12, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Ach I am hearing you on the attribution issue. Ack. Can we handle that via revdel? The thing I don't want, is to destabilize the nascent dialogue which is happening on this page.Jytdog (talk) 20:13, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- As you have pared the draft article right back to nothing but an infobox, are you not effectively agreeing with deletion of the content? Full-on deletion will resolve the attribution issue and help ensure that any new draft is built from the ground up. Dorsetonian (talk) 20:09, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- btw apologies - I didn't mean to delete the MfD notice. Thanks for restoring it. Jytdog (talk) 20:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- User:Dorsetonian do you consent to the revdel approach to the attribution problem? If so I will be happy to request that. Jytdog (talk) 20:46, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think if earlier versions are revdel'd they'd have to all be revdel'd or very carefully checked. For example, this earlier revision has lots of apparent references to footnotes (like this[29]) which are not actually there - suggesting strongly it was copied and pasted from another page as well (the rendered version rather than the source). If the consensus is to delete the earlier revisions then I have no opinion as to how would be the best/easiest way to achieve that. However, there is clearly no need for the revision of the draft as subsequently created by Legacypac to be deleted. Dorsetonian (talk) 09:00, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- No issue if someone wants to rev del - the issue is keeping the talk page history. I just put up a little text for context so we would not have a blank page. Legacypac (talk) 09:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.