27 November 2010
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2010-11-27 (Suspected copyright violations)
Copyright investigations (manual article tagging)
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- Communities That Care (history · last edit) from [3]. I'm not certain whether this articles is a problem or not. Because it is a program of the United States Government the wording may be from something in the public domain? I have not tagged the article itself. ✤ JonHarder talk 21:01, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I'm looking at this one, and complicated the matter here is that the pdf is dated to 2009, while the content was added here in 2008. I've found similar content on several other websites; one official site in Colorado acknowledges us as the source. Others clearly postdate us. The governmental page, meanwhile, is not loading. I am inclined to think that, since we evidently postdate the pdf, we should presume this one is okay, but perhaps note the complication at the article's talk page. Before closing, though, I'd like to get other feedback. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- My only concern would be that the article could copy from an older document replaced by the 2009 document. That the PDF is formatted better than the wikipedia article - insofar as the relevant words are concerned - would suggest to me that the article is a copy of the PDF or an earlier version of it. An earlier but different looking article article created by a different account (but apparently the same person[4]) was G12'd. The current version was worked on in userspace before being moved to the mainspace. It was worked on extensively in userspace, but what stands out is the original large dump of text.[5] --Mkativerata (talk) 20:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm. Those are good causes of concern. :/ In cases like this, I usually follow the "If in doubt, write the content yourself, thereby creating a new copyrighted work which can be included in Wikipedia without trouble" provision (I've rewritten a good many articles), but generally the articles have been blanked before I've done so. I feel like rewriting for copyright concerns is an admin action, and I prefer to let "regular" editing deal with it before I do that. Since the contributor isn't around much, do you think the content should be blanked to let them have a shot at it, or do you think I should go ahead, given reasonable doubt? Your opinion would be much appreciated. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- I think blanking it for a week and relisting it here would be the better, and potentially MRG-time-saving approach. It averages 20 page-views a day so chances are the writer or someone interested might notice.--Mkativerata (talk) 19:36, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- So mote it be. :) Blanked, explained, and relisted under today to set the clock. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:36, 9 December 2010 (UTC)