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Soulbust
- Soulbust (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Check requested by theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her)
- I did just come across Soulbust being warned for a second time; the first I saw was by Tamzin at Template:Did you know nominations/Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse) and then a second time by evrik at Template:Did you know nominations/Bigface. Going through their other DYK nominations, which are generally otherwise quality, I'm finding other issues:
- In the recent Protect trans kids, compare the original:
to the article's:The gesture comes on the same day that Texas governor Greg Abbott sent a letter to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services calling on its employees and other licensed professionals who work with children to report on trans children and report the parents of trans children to state authorities, referring to “elective procedures for gender transitioning” as “child abuse.”
This occurred on the same day as Texas governor Greg Abbott issuing a letter to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, calling on employees and other professionals working with children to report parents of trans children to state authorities.
- I found a third warning from Pamzeis at Template:Did you know nominations/Music of Spider-Verse – this one is for overquotation, but there is also close paraphrasing in wikivoice. Compare the original
the clacking of a computer keyboard, and the motif for the villainous Kingpin Wilson Fisk is performed by a click-pen
to the article'sthe clacking of a computer keyboard being featured in a set piece. The motif for the Kingpin (or Wilson Fisk) is performed by a click-pen.
- And a fourth note from gobonobo at Template:Did you know nominations/Squirrels on college campuses.
This doesn't look to me like it's intentional: no article (with the possible exception of Spider-Gwen) was too bad, but it does seem pervasive across articles. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:23, 16 July 2023 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:23, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I guess to start off, yeah, I haven't done any of that intentionally. Though I guess that's pretty evident given your comments. I don't see the issue with the one for Protect trans kids. To me that seems like it might just be flagged because of the titles/proper names (Texas governor, Texas Department of Family and Protective Services). Tried to actually condense the rest of it the best I could.
- That Squirrels on college campuses one was a result of me trying to make sure the specific parameters of the relevant study (so that study tagging specifically each tree, building, etc.) wouldn't get lost when cited here on Wikipedia. But the concern with that sentence that gobonobo raised was able to be alleviated.
- The Bigface one is kind of silly. There are four sources popping up as 32.4% (two of which are used in the article, the other two I hadn't even come across before). This 32.4% is popping up because of a direct quote from Jimmy Butler (example here). In the article, it is written as:
- "Originating as an inside joke, Butler called his business "Big Face Coffee", explaining "if I charge $20 for a cup, all I got to do [sic] is get somebody for a good cup of coffee," adding that now out of $20 bills, they would come back "big faces," slang for $100 bills. Butler added "whenever they hand me the hundred, I'm going to be like, 'Whoops, sorry. I don't have change. Thank you for paying a hundred dollars for a cup of coffee.' Never really worked that way but the idea was genius." Butler contributed the difficulty to find coffee as a reason why demand for his was high."
- I'll see if I can go ahead and paraphrase that one a bit. There is another source (not used in the article) that pops up as 32.9%, but again it's that direct quote about $20 bills and "hundred dollars for a cup of coffee". The added 0.5% pops up because of "National Basketball Association (NBA)" and so yeah that seems like a silly non-issue to me.
- The two Spider-Verse articles a little bit more complex. I think the missteps here (particularly on the Spider-Gwen) were me struggling with paraphrasing plot points. Looking at the concerns Tamzin raised at the DYK nom for that one, the first two and bottom two seem relatively minor.
- The "briefly seen with a trans pin" one I'm not really sure how to have better paraphrased that one. Seems like a basic description of what some fans suggested and it's sourced as that.
- The "comics writer and longtime fan" one was in the context of this "CNN's Leah Asmelash cited comics writer and longtime fan Zoe Tunnell". That's now been tweaked to drop the "longtime fan" descriptor. I thought that could come off as fluffy/crufty, and maybe unnecessary for inclusion here. Not sure how else to alleviate the copyvio concern here. Looks like the same issue as in Protect trans kids (just the preceding descriptor "comics writer" making it pop up on earwig).
- The third one is probably the most apparently concerning, but as I said earlier, I struggled with finding smooth ways to paraphrase plot points. I do think this particular section has since been fixed up; I did some initial tweaks here and Moneytrees came in clutch and further patched it up at this edit.
- The fourth "that all spider-heroes must experience" and fifth ones "theories about canon events and anomalies" seem like more ticky-tacky flagging by Earwig. I would attribute this to the plot point paraphrasing struggles I've mentioned. I think it was just a little harder for me to figure out clean ways to summarize the in-universe context at least on my first sort-of wave of working on that article. Since this is all a work in progress, I figured that that sort of stuff could be worked through especially with the DYK process letting me know what exactly to kinda hone in on and patch up. Not to mention any organic independent re-visits I will do with articles.
- Pamzeis mentioned three sources as making earwig pop up high similarity concerns on the Music of Spider-Verse article. I have removed one of those three sources altogether, and so I'll be working on how to better work in the other 2. The Screen Rant one has a little bit of the silly problems similarly found at Bigface (it flags "Across the Spider-Verse Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (soundtrack)" for example). But this one is mostly just direct quoting. So I think this one can definitely be patched up. Same for the Observer quote as that one is also lighting up due to a direct quoting issue.
- If there's anything else I may have missed to address, just let me know. But I think the higher concerns earwig has brought up can definitely be addressed and worked in the article. Sorry for the mess atm. Soulbust (talk) 23:34, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to decline it at this time. The issues appear minor and have been addressed, and a spot check of recent contributions show a clean log. Wizardman 02:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tpsn98290
- Tpsn98290 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Check requested by Fermiboson (talk)
- Editor has a long, long history of creating copyvio articles, as one can see from their talk page. Most of these are deleted, but the editor also has contributions to other articles that need checking. For example, at Naruka, there is a section copyvio [1], the source of which dates from before the editor's first edit. I can't, however, seem to track down exactly what diff the copyvio content was added (only that it came into being after this editor started editing). There should probably be a deeper look into this. Fermiboson (talk) 18:28, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Naruka Y Redirected Wizardman 14:23, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- N Uniara (Jagir) Listing at WP:CP. Wizardman 16:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- N Narukhand Listing at WP:CP. Wizardman 16:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- N Ladana Thikana (1 edit): Content is either unsourced or sourced to offline works; listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2024 January 3 — Callitropsis🌲[formerly SamX · talk · contribs] 02:33, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Kachhwaha (3 edits): ? — Callitropsis🌲[formerly SamX · talk · contribs] 02:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sawai Pratap Singh Naruka (1 edit): Y — SamX [talk · contribs] 02:07, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Todaraisingh (1 edit): ? Since removed as unsourced — SamX [talk · contribs] 06:13, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Ram Mandir (1 edit): ? Reverted a day later — SamX [talk · contribs] 03:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Bhuvneshwari Kumari (1 edit): N Unlikely—text added contained grammatical errors and other idiosyncracies. — SamX [talk · contribs] 03:10, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Yato Dharmastato Jayah (1 edit): Probably not copyvio but was cited to an SPS; removed. — SamX [talk · contribs] 01:58, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- List of Mayoites (1 edit): Unsourced — SamX [talk · contribs] 01:58, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Lawa Thikana (2 edits): Unsourced — SamX [talk · contribs] 01:58, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Alwar State (1 edit): — SamX [talk · contribs] 06:03, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Tonk district (1 edit): N — SamX [talk · contribs] 07:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
山登 太郎
- 山登 太郎 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Check requested by UtherSRG (talk)
- 4 new articles and 1 redirect transformed into an article in the past 5-6 months that all look like machine translations of articles on ja-wiki, no attribution given UtherSRG (talk) 12:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @UtherSRG: Can't we just add {{Translated page}} to all of them? Don't understand what necessitates a CCI, they've only created 4 articles. —Matrix(!) (a good person!)[Citation not needed at all; thank you very much] 15:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IronGargoyle
- IronGargoyle (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Check requested by Mr.choppers | ✎
- Mass upload of photos of buildings from all across the world, uploaded here with
{{FoP-USonly}}
. The problem is that they are not actually freely licensed: Bosco Verticale - Drawings, for instance, is CLEARLY Boeri's own drawing. Other files, which appear to qualify for FoP-US at a glance are actually misrepresented, too. Bucharest World Trade Center.jpg is listed as{{cc-by-sa-2.0}}
but is actually{{cc-by-nc-2.0}}
at Flickr. Mr.choppers | ✎ 03:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As for the drawing, I made the determination that the owner of the cited Flickr stream seemed to be the creator of it. If they are not drawings by the original architect, the principle of freedom of panorama does not just apply to photographs, it applies to drawings too. As for File:Bucharest World Trade Center.jpg, please check the license history on the Flickr page. The file was indeed licensed as CC-BY-SA-2.0. Creative Commons licenses are not revokable. IronGargoyle (talk) 04:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The drawing is clearly the work of Boeri, see WP:CIR. The Bucharest WTC file was changed to CC-BY-NC-2.0 on 16 October 2014; nearly ten years before you uploaded it here. Mr.choppers | ✎ 04:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- You're going to pull the WP:CIR card? Seriously? There could be a debate and discussion about the drawing, sure. I would have been happy to have it if you left a polite message on my talk page maybe? (or maybe even notified me of this discussion on CCI?) Do you have evidence that it's Boeri's drawing? It's not signed by Boeri. It looks more like an illustration for a popular press architecture site (i.e., the organization behind the Flickr stream) than an actual architectural drawing. Oh, and don't bring up WP:CIR if you're later going to suggest that the date someone tries to change an irrevocable license has anything to do with the success of changing an irrevocable license. Competence is required indeed. IronGargoyle (talk) 04:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- First, FOP doesn't apply to drawings and renderings, it applies to photographs of actual physical buildings/spaces. Second, if you don't actually know who the drawing is by, maybe that's an indication that you don't have enough information about it to confirm whether the Flickr license is valid or not. People upload stuff they don't actually own the rights to on Flickr all the time under invalid licenses because they don't know any better. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I am well aware people upload things to Flickr they don't have rights to, but I firmly believed that the drawing was created by the organization behind the Flickr stream. Your statement about drawings in general is overbroad. Drawings are allowed (see c:COM:FOP US), but perhaps you are talking more about schematic drawings specifically. If that's what you mean, I see your point. Perhaps I made a mistake bringing freedom of panorama into a discussion of the drawing per se. If the drawing is not by Boeri though, it seems so separate from the architectural copyright that I wonder over the applicability of the architectural copyright. It's mostly a conceptual diagram of how buildings with plants on them work. We could go into an interesting conceptual discussion on that I'm sure, but I'm not really interested in fighting over this one image. More annoying is the colossal failure to assume good faith and that I've been dragged to CCI over one single image that some fairly think should be deleted under the precautionary principle. IronGargoyle (talk) 05:29, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- First, FOP doesn't apply to drawings and renderings, it applies to photographs of actual physical buildings/spaces. Second, if you don't actually know who the drawing is by, maybe that's an indication that you don't have enough information about it to confirm whether the Flickr license is valid or not. People upload stuff they don't actually own the rights to on Flickr all the time under invalid licenses because they don't know any better. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- You're going to pull the WP:CIR card? Seriously? There could be a debate and discussion about the drawing, sure. I would have been happy to have it if you left a polite message on my talk page maybe? (or maybe even notified me of this discussion on CCI?) Do you have evidence that it's Boeri's drawing? It's not signed by Boeri. It looks more like an illustration for a popular press architecture site (i.e., the organization behind the Flickr stream) than an actual architectural drawing. Oh, and don't bring up WP:CIR if you're later going to suggest that the date someone tries to change an irrevocable license has anything to do with the success of changing an irrevocable license. Competence is required indeed. IronGargoyle (talk) 04:48, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- The drawing is clearly the work of Boeri, see WP:CIR. The Bucharest WTC file was changed to CC-BY-NC-2.0 on 16 October 2014; nearly ten years before you uploaded it here. Mr.choppers | ✎ 04:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As for the drawing, I made the determination that the owner of the cited Flickr stream seemed to be the creator of it. If they are not drawings by the original architect, the principle of freedom of panorama does not just apply to photographs, it applies to drawings too. As for File:Bucharest World Trade Center.jpg, please check the license history on the Flickr page. The file was indeed licensed as CC-BY-SA-2.0. Creative Commons licenses are not revokable. IronGargoyle (talk) 04:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Declined, apeears to be a one-off and since most of the images are on commons it's out of scope anyway. Wizardman 03:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yensid98
- Yensid98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Check requested by Hankiz
- This user uploaded tons of copyvio images recently, mostly portraying former Vietnamese monarchs. (Source: https://www.facebook.com/ging.tran.507) Aside from the clear copyright violation, these computer-generated paintings are largely artists' own imaginations, based solely on surviving portraits of Chinese, Japanese and Korean origins, which makes their accuracy and authenticity questionable. Hankiz 18:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Soibangla
- Soibangla (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Check requested by — SamX [talk · contribs]
- Several recent cases of close paraphrasing:
- There's also this revert of closely paraphrased material from this source and the subsequent discussion on the article's talk page. This discussion on the user's talk page does not inspire confidence. — SamX [talk · contribs] 23:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC) edited 00:18, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not see this request meets the selection criteria of "large-scale systematic copyright violations only" consisting of "at least five instances of clear copyvios (copy/pasting of unlicensed third party material; clear derivative works)." Rather, I suggest it is close paraphrasing that is perhaps inadvertently too close as I strive for concision and precision, and of which I will be more careful about going forward. soibangla (talk) 03:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Soibangla: Thanks for responding, and I really appreciate your assurances that you'll take feedback on board. Many of your edits that I checked were not problematic and I agree that you usually do a pretty good job of writing things so that they don't fall afoul of WP:CLOP, but there's enough here for me to be concerned. Part of the reason I brought this here was to get the input of someone more experienced than myself. At some point (it could be a while), an administrator or copyright clerk will do a more thorough review of your edits, and they may well decide not to open a case. If a case is opened it'll probably be fairly easy to work through, since a) most of the sources you use are easily accessible online and b) you seem to be very rigorous about using properly formatted inline citations, which will make it very easy to determine where the material may have been paraphrased from. — SamX [talk · contribs] 03:37, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I am hopeful that given
Many of your edits that I checked were not problematic
and youagree that you usually do a pretty good job of writing things so that they don't fall afoul of WP:CLOP
thata more thorough review of your edits
will be restricted to only the specific examples you cite here, before a clerk/admin decision is made to open a more expansive review from which I may become embroiled in defending everything I have ever written, as I continue to contend that this request does not meet the CCI selection criteria, soibangla (talk) 04:17, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I am hopeful that given
- @Soibangla: Thanks for responding, and I really appreciate your assurances that you'll take feedback on board. Many of your edits that I checked were not problematic and I agree that you usually do a pretty good job of writing things so that they don't fall afoul of WP:CLOP, but there's enough here for me to be concerned. Part of the reason I brought this here was to get the input of someone more experienced than myself. At some point (it could be a while), an administrator or copyright clerk will do a more thorough review of your edits, and they may well decide not to open a case. If a case is opened it'll probably be fairly easy to work through, since a) most of the sources you use are easily accessible online and b) you seem to be very rigorous about using properly formatted inline citations, which will make it very easy to determine where the material may have been paraphrased from. — SamX [talk · contribs] 03:37, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not see this request meets the selection criteria of "large-scale systematic copyright violations only" consisting of "at least five instances of clear copyvios (copy/pasting of unlicensed third party material; clear derivative works)." Rather, I suggest it is close paraphrasing that is perhaps inadvertently too close as I strive for concision and precision, and of which I will be more careful about going forward. soibangla (talk) 03:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Declined. I did a spot check on several different edits over the past few weeks and found no issues. That plus the initiator admitting most of the content is fine makes me more comfortable in declining, so long as the editor is a bit more careful moving forward (which seems to be the case). Wizardman 01:46, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]