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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 20:47, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Vaca toposa
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Several people have suggested that this article might be a hoax. Punting to AFD on that question. NW (Talk) 04:18, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete It is a bad sign when BooksLLC and Wikipedia mirrors pop up at the top of Google searches. This is either a hoax, or something so obscure that it is non-notable. Cullen328 (talk) 00:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. I asked a Spanish friend about this. Although she lives near Barcelona, quite far from Alicante, she said that she has never heard of such a tradition, and that the word toposa doesn't mean anything in Spanish. Elizium23 (talk) 20:52, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Not a hoax, just dumb (like many things that are still common), and may possibly be widespread enough for an article under some different title, but not for sure. I talked about this article with a friend who lives in Murcia municipality, close to the Vega Baja del Segura over the Alicante border, which is the area described in this article. She hadn't heard the phrase "vaca toposa" itself (appears to be local slang), but the concept is widespread — these cows are usually called "vaquillas" (little cows), at least in Murcia. Apparently, a bunch of rural types ride and otherwise harass this kind of small bull or cow as if they were bullfighters, until the cow gets tired of it, and then they try to dodge the cow when it comes after them. (She compared these people to the type of American who spends a lot of time at monster truck rallies.) This sort of thing tends to be a feature of small village festivals. The word "toposa" itself a very silly word she's never heard before, but is probably real: it gives the impression of a cow that tries to hit things with its horns a lot — almost certainly because the humans are harassing it all the time. ("Topar" is "to hit" in Spanish.) So "vaca toposa" appears to be an Alicante/coastal colloquialism for what other places call a "vaquilla" (little cow) that gets treated like this. She also mentioned that cajoling cows into chasing you is now illegal in Catalonia (another area of Spain). --Closeapple (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete as deeply non-notable at best, hoax at worst. Hyperdoctor Phrogghrus (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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