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The result was redirect to University at Buffalo, The State University of New York. The arguments for deletion/redirection significantly outweigh the arguments for retention, not to mention the significant reliable sourcing problems that have been brought up. There may be some instances in which such colleges at some universities may be notable, but this may not be the case here with regards to how this deletion discussion. --MuZemike 21:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
University at Buffalo College of Arts & Sciences
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Non-Notable university department, fails the Wikipedia:College and university article guidelines as no attempt made to demonstrate how is it "especially notable or significant", it is only sourced to department, the COI creator has offered nothing but WP:INHERITED or WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS reasons for it's existence, bringing it here to get as wide as possible input, would not mind to a redirect to University at Buffalo but is an unlikely direct search term. Mtking (edits) 04:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect According to the list of programs included in this college, it seems to be most of the degrees a school would offer. This would have some material beneficial to the main article, but probably shouldn't stand on it's own. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 07:08, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect - like its counterparts at other schools (such as my own University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee), this is a non-notable administrative sub-unit of the University, without notability of its own. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The one at UW Milwaukee may not have its own article, but the one at UW Madison does: University of Wisconsin–Madison College of Letters and Science HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 07:06, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - It is apparently the only college-level division of that university and has 15,000 students. Its notability under the general notability standards is established by a search of news sources. Even if it were not notable on its own, it is enough material to be split off of the parent article on the university. HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 03:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You claim it is notable under WP:GNG can you provide the sources showing significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, as currently there are none. Mtking (edits) 03:20, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I added information from one good article from the NY Times and two books. I would suggest that you do the same rather than trying to delete it. Judging from the talk page of Davidhar [1] it looks like you have been trying for two months to harass a new user any way possible including trying to delete this article instead of trying to contribute to the encyclopedia and its content and encouraging new editors. There is definitely a claim to notability and there are definitely articles in reliable sources to support that claim. Why don't you work with him instead to add some more sourced information? You have to be a little more creative than using an exact quote of the college's full official name when you search.
- You claim it is notable under WP:GNG can you provide the sources showing significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, as currently there are none. Mtking (edits) 03:20, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, you may call this "other crap", but there is a whole category of dozens of similar colleges at other universities in the U.S. [2] HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 07:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not harassing anyone, the editor has edited in a way to promote the university he and his family have been associated with for over 40 years, he has uploaded copyvio images here and at commons to make the article look better, has been in contact with University Communication about how best to present the university in articles here and to WP:BOOSTER them.
- Now to your sources, the NY Times one does not mention the College at all and the book, according to the copy available at Archive.org here is distributed by the University and it's historical society so is not independent. Mtking (edits) 08:24, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, you may call this "other crap", but there is a whole category of dozens of similar colleges at other universities in the U.S. [2] HiMyNameIsFrancesca (talk) 07:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -This article has enough information from the main article. If this were redirected it would be a mess on the main page and completely lose the elements of this article. There are TONS of universities that have articles that split off various colleges within the universities. Universities are notable. Colleges within a university are part of the university as a whole. For example look at the University of Michigan. What then makes a college notable? Elitism? Almost all the colleges have their own page to feature stuff about the programs and departments. If anything this article is well written. Plus the article has only been around for a month. Within time i'm sure it can be a great article that can provide additional information. This article could feature additional info about the programs or maybe the buildings the college uses to feature history to show additional significance Pwojdacz (talk) 21:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That does not address the inclusion guidelines issue or the total lack of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Mtking (edits) 00:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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