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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 15:46, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Skumin syndrome
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I'm not sure about this article. I can't find any other references to "Skumin syndrome" or "Syndrome of Skumin" in the usual medical databases, nor any reliable sources that talk about "СИНДРОМ СКУМИНА" (mostly Wikipedia mirrors, it looks like). The other Russian article that mentions it (СИНДРОМ СКУМИНА КАК НОЗОЛОГИЧЕСКАЯ ФОРМА) is showing up in a lot of various Wikipedia articles but not in any reliable sources. The Lancet article doesn't use the term. The other references either don't appear to mention it or are primary sources. ... discospinster talk 18:07, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Ah, I see it has been nominated for deletion before. I guess I should have checked that first, it would have saved me some time. ... discospinster talk 18:09, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: I made the first nomination, and totally missed the part where it wasn't deleted, even though the consensus was delete. I'm not sure how that happened, but it seems like the prior consensus still stands? Dunno what the next step is. a13ean (talk) 18:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Edit: OK, I see what happened. It was deleted, but recreated in good faith as a translation from the French page by a user who probably missed the first article and AfD. I would suggest this user self-revert and go with WP:DELREVD if possible. a13ean (talk) 18:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Hi, I'm that good faith user, thanks for the presumption of innocence =)
I really did a translation, and I'm no expert in this field. Just trusted French Wikipedia on that one, and had no idea that the page was deleted before.
Thinking about it, it is really "fishy". But, since I'm an amateur Wikipedian (took me a while to get here in the first place), can I delete it already, even if the notice on the page says that I should wait the result of this votation?
BTW, the affluent articles probably should be revised. If someone slipped this link in there, maybe some other dubious content made its way there too.Jack O'Neill (talk) 21:32, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, no, you can't delete it. It takes an administrator to do that. At this point just wait out the process. Thanks for your willingness to re-evaluate this, after your hard work creating it in the first place. (Excellent translation, by the way - pleasure to see an article so well written one doesn't even realize it's a translation!) --MelanieN (talk) 15:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- keep Reliable references in Russian language exist, even books. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: That's a book that Skumin himself wrote. It just shows that he's coined the term, not that it's widely accepted in the medical community. ... discospinster talk 23:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, not that this is relevant, but the page in Russian gives his middle name as Andreyevich, but the Google translate gives it as Yushchenko. (!) ... discospinster talk 23:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: That's a book that Skumin himself wrote. It just shows that he's coined the term, not that it's widely accepted in the medical community. ... discospinster talk 23:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete The reasons presented at the first AfD (obscure "syndrome" not widely accepted) still seem to be valid. --MelanieN (talk) 15:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:OR. No secondary sources prove it has been generally accepted. Bearian (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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