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The result was delete and redirect to List of the verified oldest people#100 verified oldest men. Sandstein 15:56, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
Saturnino de la Fuente García
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Wikipedia has an almost infinite supply of WP:NOPAGE WP:PERMASTUBs, and this article is one of them. There is nothing saying that "age X" is notable and the article's subject is not even in the top 20 in the list of the verified oldest men. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 12:06, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Question You mentioned that the subject of the article is "not even in the top 20" of the oldest verified men. Does this mean that once Mr Garcia reaches the age to be on the top 20 of that list, he is worthy of an article? Fakescientist8000 (talk) 13:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with Fakescientist8000. Whether or not he was among the top 20 oldest men of all time is a rather arbitrary point to make considering he is currently the oldest to be alive. OrchestralHuman (talk) 17:46, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Obviously Chicdat isn't claiming that on entry to the top-20 that that man has automatically earned the right to a stand-alone page. Saturnino and most other supercentenarians haven't accomplished or achieved anything of significance in their lives apart from reaching an extremely advanced age, which in the majority of cases doesn't create notability. In my opinion, at best, he deserves a mini bio and if and when he becomes more notable, then a page should obviously be created. MattSucci (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- I meant that he might be slightly more worthy of an article if he was in the top 20. Even so, this discussion isn't about that. It's about whether this article should be deleted or not. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:13, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Alright, I'm going to be civil here, but if this discussion is not about whether or not Mr. Garcia is within the top 20 verified men ever, why would you bring it up in the first place? Anywho, I will have to agree with MattSucci and DerbyCountyinNZ and say Delete this article. This man isn't notable whatsoever, as of now. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 00:18, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- I meant that he might be slightly more worthy of an article if he was in the top 20. Even so, this discussion isn't about that. It's about whether this article should be deleted or not. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 10:13, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Obviously Chicdat isn't claiming that on entry to the top-20 that that man has automatically earned the right to a stand-alone page. Saturnino and most other supercentenarians haven't accomplished or achieved anything of significance in their lives apart from reaching an extremely advanced age, which in the majority of cases doesn't create notability. In my opinion, at best, he deserves a mini bio and if and when he becomes more notable, then a page should obviously be created. MattSucci (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Agree with Fakescientist8000. Whether or not he was among the top 20 oldest men of all time is a rather arbitrary point to make considering he is currently the oldest to be alive. OrchestralHuman (talk) 17:46, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Stand alone article is not justified per WP:BIO1E and WP:NOPAGE. This would apply no matter where he appears in any longevity list. This may change if coverage in RS increases as he gets older. At present there is nothing to even justify a mini-bio List of Spanish supercentenarians. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 10:47, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of the verified oldest people#100 verified oldest men. Redirects are cheap. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. Simply not notable enough to merit a stand-alone page. Page contains/contained nothing other than mundane, irrelevant facts. Should he receive more news coverage in the future then a page or mini bio may be required. MattSucci (talk) 14:27, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of the verified oldest men like Joan Riudavets. The latter probably deserves a mini-bio at List of Spanish supercentenarians, but de la Fuente García not yet. Renewal6 (talk) 12:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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