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The result was keep. Consensus is clearly keep above improvements to the aticle DGG ( talk ) 22:57, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
Replicas of the Taj Mahal
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Per Talk:Replicas of the Taj Mahal a lot of these buildings are loosely inspired by the Taj Mahal. A replica is defined by Wiktionary as "an exact copy". It's a weak article, relying on images for bulk, with most of the lead having been copied verbatim from Taj Mahal. Firebrace (talk) 17:35, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Pernom. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 06:09, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- See WP:PERNOM. North America1000 00:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. SwisterTwister talk 06:13, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as this is still questionable for an independently notable article, best connected to the original article. SwisterTwister talk 06:13, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:20, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
- Merge with Taj Mahal. A paragraph over their about replicas, or better called as "modern inspirations", fits well. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep. There are similar lists of replicas of the Statue of Liberty, of the White House, many more iconic buildings or other objects. I am just creating and populating Category:Lists of replicas to show as many of them as I can find easily. List of Eiffel Tower replicas is a good example. It is NOT appropriate to burden the encyclopedic article on the Taj Mahal with minutiae about cheesy replicas. The list of replicas, cheesy or not, is separately useful, and is actually interesting, and it can be mentioned in the Taj Mahal article's "See also" section. IMO it is also not a problem that some or all of the Taj Mahal "replicas" are not exact replicas and thus do not meet the strict definition at replica. The definition there is wrong and/or a different word or phrase besides "replica" should be chosen . --doncram 18:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- No, the definition at Wiktionary is not wrong. [1] [2] [3] Firebrace (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Okay then you would prefer a different word or phrase, for this Taj Mahal knockoffs list and for the lists of copies of the Eiffel Tower and the others too. How about "reproduction"? "Reproductions of the Taj Mahal" seems apt. Following a link from one of yours brings me to synonyms of replica, of which "reproductions" seems best to me. It allows for good and bad copies, and does not require exactness. --doncram 12:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Some are replicas, some are models, and some were inspired by the Taj Mahal. I would not be against keeping the article as 'Replicas of the Taj Mahal' provided there be a subsection for "other buildings" which are not exact copies, but the article still has other issues... Firebrace (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- There is Stonehenge replicas and derivatives, how about naming like that? doncram 16:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Some are replicas, some are models, and some were inspired by the Taj Mahal. I would not be against keeping the article as 'Replicas of the Taj Mahal' provided there be a subsection for "other buildings" which are not exact copies, but the article still has other issues... Firebrace (talk) 16:51, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- Okay then you would prefer a different word or phrase, for this Taj Mahal knockoffs list and for the lists of copies of the Eiffel Tower and the others too. How about "reproduction"? "Reproductions of the Taj Mahal" seems apt. Following a link from one of yours brings me to synonyms of replica, of which "reproductions" seems best to me. It allows for good and bad copies, and does not require exactness. --doncram 12:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
- No, the definition at Wiktionary is not wrong. [1] [2] [3] Firebrace (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Taj mahal is in itself significant, thus by extension notable derivatives. Hawaan12 (talk) 22:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Though shallow, it is true that "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Verne Equinox (talk) 20:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Keep for reasons articulated by article creator & User:doncram. However, article should be improved by making clear distinctions between scale models and actual buildings. And among buildings, by distinguishing among buildings inspired by, referencing the style of, and literal replicas of all or part of the Taj. Like Eiffel Tower replicas and derivatives this is a sophisticated yet succinct and accurate title. E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:40, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Note: The Eiffel Tower list was moved/renamed to its current title that E.M.Gregory likes, in this diff by me April 18. AFAIK, the Stonehenge one is the only one previously having the good "replicas and derivatives" term, and it was given its name in this 2006 rename by User:Pschemp. I am proceeding now to rename others in Category:Lists of replicas now. --doncram 03:39, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. The deletion nominator was correct that the lead was weak and was mostly a copy of the lede of the Taj Mahal article. Indeed this article's lede and photo of the Taj made it appear this article was about the Taj, not about copies. The lede (and photo caption) was rewritten within these edits by myself and the deletion nominator. --doncram 16:38, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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