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The result was Delete. CitiCat ♫ 16:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Raw Footage
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The album is supposed to be Ice Cube's next one and hasn't got a release date yet. So i guess it is Crystal Balling there. --West Coast Ryda 15:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: I don't think that this article is WP:CRYSTAL. Ice Cube have stated that the album will be released after WC's last album. Two source have confirmed this information.--Tasc0 18:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I know it's confirmed in multiple interviews and i added two sources there but the release date is not known as of yet so in my opinion it's crystal bally because it doesent have a release date. Let's see if anyone else comes and confirms anybody's opinion. West Coast Ryda 18:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The article does not meet the WP:CRYSTAL criteria. For example, in the point number one: Ice Cube stated that he's been recording some work for the album, so it is in progress. In ponit number three: "Of course, we do and should have articles about notable artistic works, essays, or credible research that embody predictions". Ice Cube is a notable artists per WP:MUSIC.--Tasc0 18:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Of course he is notable even rated best rapper alive in my list. But that album needs a release date to deserve it's own article. Of course we can recreate it when the album has got it's release date. For example if i say as a singer my next album is due out in 2011 so it doesent mean we should create an article that states "title" is an album by this singer due out in 2011 with a reference. It's crystal ball if you ask me. But you've got ur own opinion so i see it. --West Coast Ryda 19:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What you're saying does not make sence at all. The article does not meet WP:CRYSTAL. There has been some work in the progress and it is a notable artists. Period.--Tasc0 19:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I dont think u did even read my reply because if u did you would understand what i was on about. The album has no release date as of yet. So if Ice Cube would confirm it's due out in 2042 should we keep it until then? --West Coast Ryda 20:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't mater if there's no release date information. What does mater is that your reason was the article is WP:CRYSTAL, wich I replied it didn't meet that criteria. I don't know how to put it out so you can understand it.--Tasc0 20:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "By comparison, the 2016 U.S. presidential election and 2036 Summer Olympics are not considered appropriate article topics because nothing can be said about them that is verifiable and not original research." That's saying it all. West Coast Ryda 20:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That only says it's not verifiable. This album it is, saying that will be released after WC's album and that Ice Cube started working on it. I'm removing this page from my watchlist because it seems that you don't understand, and I'm not going to repeat the same thing again and again. Thank you. Anyways, the result should be a keep. The article does not meet WP:CRYSTAL.--Tasc0 21:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "By comparison, the 2016 U.S. presidential election and 2036 Summer Olympics are not considered appropriate article topics because nothing can be said about them that is verifiable and not original research." That's saying it all. West Coast Ryda 20:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't mater if there's no release date information. What does mater is that your reason was the article is WP:CRYSTAL, wich I replied it didn't meet that criteria. I don't know how to put it out so you can understand it.--Tasc0 20:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I dont think u did even read my reply because if u did you would understand what i was on about. The album has no release date as of yet. So if Ice Cube would confirm it's due out in 2042 should we keep it until then? --West Coast Ryda 20:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What you're saying does not make sence at all. The article does not meet WP:CRYSTAL. There has been some work in the progress and it is a notable artists. Period.--Tasc0 19:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Of course he is notable even rated best rapper alive in my list. But that album needs a release date to deserve it's own article. Of course we can recreate it when the album has got it's release date. For example if i say as a singer my next album is due out in 2011 so it doesent mean we should create an article that states "title" is an album by this singer due out in 2011 with a reference. It's crystal ball if you ask me. But you've got ur own opinion so i see it. --West Coast Ryda 19:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The article does not meet the WP:CRYSTAL criteria. For example, in the point number one: Ice Cube stated that he's been recording some work for the album, so it is in progress. In ponit number three: "Of course, we do and should have articles about notable artistic works, essays, or credible research that embody predictions". Ice Cube is a notable artists per WP:MUSIC.--Tasc0 18:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete All Ice Cube really said about the album is "It's more political than my last record. That's all I can say", which is pretty vague. That's basically the most detailed info available. WP:CBALL says an article should be kept only if the event is certain to take place. Earlier this year, Ice Cube said it was going to be released in the 3rd quarter of 2007, which has now passed. Wait until more definitive info comes out. Spellcast 23:55, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Album with no release date or other verifiable information. Not that the article even says, "he stated that Raw Footage may be released after WC's last studio album..." (emphasis mine). Sheer speculation stub, which means delete until a firm release date is given. Kesh 00:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- He stated that he's been recording some work for the album. So it is not WP:CRYSTAL.--Tasc0 01:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it is. Until the album is announced with a date, it's still speculation that it'll even come out. The material may never see the light of day, or may be rolled into a different release (movie soundtrack, etc.). Until an actual release date is given, it's all sheer speculation at this point. -- Kesh 02:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, according to WP:CRYSTAL, if some work is in progress and it is about a notable artists, "we" should have an artlice about it. And what has do to with anything the thing you said about being rolled into a movie soundtrack or something like that? That doesn't make any sence at all with this nomination.--Tasc0 04:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it is. Until the album is announced with a date, it's still speculation that it'll even come out. The material may never see the light of day, or may be rolled into a different release (movie soundtrack, etc.). Until an actual release date is given, it's all sheer speculation at this point. -- Kesh 02:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- He stated that he's been recording some work for the album. So it is not WP:CRYSTAL.--Tasc0 01:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Per WP:BALL, Spellcast explained it well. Third quarter has now passed, not enough info available. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 18:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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