- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was No consensus. Non admin closure per Wikipedia:Renominating for deletion Martin451 (talk) 02:31, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
List of unusual deaths
AfDs for this article:
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths (2nd nomination)
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths (3rd nomination)
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths (4th nomination)
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths (5th nomination)
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths (6th nomination)
- Articles for deletion/List of unusual deaths (7th nomination)
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Previous discussion ended in no-consensus. This article suffers from a pair of crippling problems:
- It's never clear what is an unusual death and what isn't, and as such criteria for inclusion is subjective. Most of these are freak accidents, but not all.
- This list will never be exhaustive, even if limited to people with Wikipedia entries.
Note that the deletion rationale is slightly different than in the previous AfD. I'd also note that "this gets a lot of hits (which was the rationale behind half of the votes in the previous AfD discussion) is in no way a valid argument for keeping an article. pbp 00:29, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you on crack? -- Hillbillyholiday talk 00:42, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've renumbered this nomination (it's the sixth not third). And as PBP's generated list was looking rather untidy, Here is a chronological list with results: -- Hillbillyholiday talk 01:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- 1st nomination > Keep (May 06)
- 2nd nomination > Keep (Dec 06)
- 3rd nomination > No consensus (Apr 07)
- 4th nomination > No consensus (Jan 09)
- 5th nomination > No consensus (Jun 13)
- 6th nomination > Current (Jun 13)
- -- Hillbillyholiday talk 01:09, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Hillbilly should not have moved this, nor should he have deleted the generated list, which I might add was generated by a bot and not me pbp 01:25, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Those seem to me to be the same arguments that have been brought up the previous six (six!) AFD discussions (if I'm counting correctly). How are they different?
- The "it can never be exhaustive" argument is lame - lots of articles on wikipedia can never be exhaustive. The "inherently subjective" argument, on the other hand, is the one that leaves people teetering on the edge of yea or nay. Wander through the archives and you'll be a veritable Proustian collection of verbiage about it. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 01:14, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- By the way, there was an even-earlier AFD than the list, under the article's first name: [1]
- The previous AFD was just closed three days ago as "no consensus" despite a very lengthy discussion with lots of participants. What on earth do you think you will accomplish by restarting it this soon? postdlf (talk) 01:19, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Come on. There has to be some kind of moratorium on this. The previous AFD just ended. --SubSeven (talk) 01:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope. Anything can be renominated immediately if it closes in no-consensus. This is really no different than relisting a debate (which, IMO, should have been closed as delete the first time because half the votes were ILIKE/this gets hit a lot). If you don't like it, take it to ANI, but this issue has been brought there before, and at least once the decision to relist has been affirmed pbp 01:32, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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