- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep per lack of deletion arguments / nomination withdrawal. Will explore discussed options on talk page. (non-admin closure) Erik (talk | contribs) 15:32, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
List of films featuring anthromorphic insects
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Per Wikipedia's notability guidelines for stand-alone lists, "Notability of lists (whether titled as 'List of Xs' or 'Xs') is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list." I have not been able to locate any reliable source grouping films that feature anthropomorphic insects due to the narrowness of the topic. However, I do think that List of films featuring anthropomorphic characters could be created. Recent precedents of such lists following the guidelines are films featuring home invasions and films featuring diabetes, both well-referenced lists that easily survived deletion attempts. In the meantime, here I had proposed deletion and offered an alternative solution where the three films could be listed at the fourth film's "See also" section. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:23, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Is outright deletion right? I would definitely and strongly disagree with that. I do, however, second the proposal to Merge this into a List of films featuring anthropomorphic characters article, adding any other films with anthropomorphic characters in as well. Lukeno94 (talk) 16:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If someone wants to go ahead and create the broader list, then I guess we can redirect this list there. It just does not suffice on its own. It's not a realistic search term (and is misspelled to boot). Erik (talk | contribs) 17:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I hadn't spotted the typo in this title, but I didn't make any comment about a redirect. The list could be a good project for WikiProject Film to sort out. Lukeno94 (talk) 17:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If the general list is created by someone, then the four film titles here would be merged there, and this list article would redirect to the new list article. WikiProject Film could be petitioned for help, but it is less an organization and more of a forum with each editor working on their own thing. Erik (talk | contribs) 17:45, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I hadn't spotted the typo in this title, but I didn't make any comment about a redirect. The list could be a good project for WikiProject Film to sort out. Lukeno94 (talk) 17:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If someone wants to go ahead and create the broader list, then I guess we can redirect this list there. It just does not suffice on its own. It's not a realistic search term (and is misspelled to boot). Erik (talk | contribs) 17:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Jiminy Cricket, keep. List of films featuring anthropomorphic characters would be way too long on its own. Better to make it a list of more manageable lists, including this one and Films and television based on Alice in Wonderland hmmm, that one needs to be renamed, per WP:SALAT. There's more entries that could be added: Pinocchio (1940 film), Mr. Bug Goes to Town, Joe's Apartment, etc. It could even be split up into sublists, like List of films featuring ant-ropomorphic characters, List of bee movies featuring anthropomorphic characters. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:24, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, you provide some good examples. Still, I did not find any reliable sources that identify this particular grouping. Did you find any? I don't think that a list of films featuring anthropomorphic characters would be that unwieldy, including your examples and more, but it seems premature to argue to keep this as a sub-list when the more general list has not existed on Wikipedia all this time. Erik (talk | contribs) 04:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you are seriously underestimating the number of films. Just off the top of my head, I can come up with most (all?) of the Looney Tunes oeuvre, Woody Woodpecker filmography, Yogi Bear#Films and specials, Andy Panda#Filmography, Roger Rabbit, many, many Disney films, Alvin and the Chipmunks, The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, Scooby-Doo, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Finding Nemo, etc. etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm referring to the guidelines at WP:NOTESAL, which I referenced in my initial comment above. All your examples can belong in a more general list. What I am asking is, are there grounds for this particular list ("anthropomorphic insects") to be considered notable per the guidelines? Erik (talk | contribs) 00:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- We can start off with a general list, and then re-spin out things if the list does get too big. Lukeno94 (talk) 09:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I have an alternative suggestion. What about List of films featuring insects? I know I saw one grouping of that in a source during my initial research. We can put anthropomorphic and non-anthropomorphic examples; Microcosmos was identified by the aforementioned source. Other examples would include horror films, I'm sure. It would be a much easier list to put together; there's an existing category here that we could basically convert to list form and add references. Erik (talk | contribs) 23:52, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- We can start off with a general list, and then re-spin out things if the list does get too big. Lukeno94 (talk) 09:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm referring to the guidelines at WP:NOTESAL, which I referenced in my initial comment above. All your examples can belong in a more general list. What I am asking is, are there grounds for this particular list ("anthropomorphic insects") to be considered notable per the guidelines? Erik (talk | contribs) 00:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you are seriously underestimating the number of films. Just off the top of my head, I can come up with most (all?) of the Looney Tunes oeuvre, Woody Woodpecker filmography, Yogi Bear#Films and specials, Andy Panda#Filmography, Roger Rabbit, many, many Disney films, Alvin and the Chipmunks, The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, Scooby-Doo, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Finding Nemo, etc. etc. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, you provide some good examples. Still, I did not find any reliable sources that identify this particular grouping. Did you find any? I don't think that a list of films featuring anthropomorphic characters would be that unwieldy, including your examples and more, but it seems premature to argue to keep this as a sub-list when the more general list has not existed on Wikipedia all this time. Erik (talk | contribs) 04:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep These kinds of pages are useful for research using wikipedia. StanleyTAnderson (talk) 16:53, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:ITSUSEFUL. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:03, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.