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The result was keep. This does not prevent anyone from looking to merge the article based on a consensus on the talk page (or pursuant to WP:BB). Stifle (talk) 11:24, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
List of deaths and violence at the Cecil Hotel
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Sources discuss the excessive number of deaths at the hotel, but none of them actually go through and enumerate them all. Cecil Hotel (Los Angeles)#Reputation for violence, suicide and murder is a rather detailed section already. Nitpick: All the entries are deaths, not "violence", which could mean a lot of things. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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- Keep I'm not seeing a reason to delete in the nomination, which seems to be mainly some nitpicking. See WP:ATD and WP:BEFORE. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:08, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Nearly 100 years now and this list is not notable to this day. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 16:04, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Delete. A known reputation that forms part of the hotel's notability does not justify a separate list of otherwise non-notable news incidents. WP is not a news site or a memorial. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 16:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Redirect to Cecil Hotel (Los Angeles)#Reputation for violence, suicide and murder. The section is structured enough like a list to make a suitable redirect target for the name. BD2412 T 19:45, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 05:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 05:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep per Andrew; I don't see any good reason to delete this list. It seems to meet WP:NLIST, given that the hotel's history of violence is often discussed "as a group or set." And there seem to be enough individual instances to justify a separate list article instead of shoving them all into the main article. Mlb96 (talk) 20:38, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep For the same reasons stated by the other two. With all due respect to Clarityfiend, I'm just not convinced by their argument. Helen(💬📖) 23:04, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep. I think there is sufficient coverage here to pass WP:GNG. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:35, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- Keep as appears notable. Rubbish computer Ping me or leave a message on my talk page 12:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Keep There is enough coverage of the deaths to justify a standalone article.Jackattack1597 (talk) 09:33, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Cecil Hotel (Los Angeles). Fits naturally as a part of that article, which isn't overlong. Why spin it off? Sandstein 11:12, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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