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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- List of cancelled video game system and accessories (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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No references and not needed. There is no List of cancelled films. This will just get too long and not what WP is. Aaaabbbbccccddddeeeeffff (talk) 17:48, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep:Delete: Unreferenced; possibly original research and/or synthesis. Guoguo12--Talk-- 04:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)If there is no List of cancelled films, perhaps you should request its creation. "The status of articles on other similar topics has no necessary bearing on a particular article" (WP:ALLORNOTHING). Guoguo12--Talk-- 17:57, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]- Keep. WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST makes it clear the deletion rationale is invalid. But following that reasoning anyway, we do have List of cancelled video games, and this article appears to be implementing the split which is proposed there. As for the list itself, this seems a perfectly valid article topic. Yes, it does need work; tagging may be an appropriate course of action. I42 (talk) 18:03, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete most of what's on the list is redlinks and/or stuff that actually WAS released, albeit some under other names or not in the US. While the existence or lack of a similar list for movies doesn't necessarily validate this list, the nom does have a point that other product categories aren't similarly handled: we don't have a list of cancelled breakfast cereals or deodorants, nor should we. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 18:26, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- To state the obvious, we are not discussing a "list of cancelled breakfast cereals or deodorants". Let's stick to this situation regardless of precedent; this is the precedent, perhaps. However, I would be happy to change my recommendation to "oppose" if you could demonstrate that some of the list items actually were released. Guoguo12--Talk-- 00:03, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Let's see, the Famicom Disk System, WonderSwan, PocketStation and 64DD were all released in Japan. The Nintendo Playstation developed into the Sony Playstation, the SNES CD became the Philips CD-i, and PlayStation Online became the Playstation Network. The "Sega Super Master System" is apparently the Mega Drive/Genesis, although I'm unable to find any evidence outside this article any console was ever developed under that name, indeed one of the Master System retail bundles was called "Sega Super Master System Plus", making that name highly unlikely. Goes to show you, perhaps, how easy it is to insert unsourced/hoax info in this sort of article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Point taken. Guoguo12--Talk-- 04:41, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Let's see, the Famicom Disk System, WonderSwan, PocketStation and 64DD were all released in Japan. The Nintendo Playstation developed into the Sony Playstation, the SNES CD became the Philips CD-i, and PlayStation Online became the Playstation Network. The "Sega Super Master System" is apparently the Mega Drive/Genesis, although I'm unable to find any evidence outside this article any console was ever developed under that name, indeed one of the Master System retail bundles was called "Sega Super Master System Plus", making that name highly unlikely. Goes to show you, perhaps, how easy it is to insert unsourced/hoax info in this sort of article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 02:23, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- To state the obvious, we are not discussing a "list of cancelled breakfast cereals or deodorants". Let's stick to this situation regardless of precedent; this is the precedent, perhaps. However, I would be happy to change my recommendation to "oppose" if you could demonstrate that some of the list items actually were released. Guoguo12--Talk-- 00:03, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per Nom. Possibly recreate as a category. Otherwise not needed. the mention of the films is just to point out that this is not a type of article that is common. JDDJS (talk) 18:43, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Split, since we already have a page about the games,split the accessories onto their own page if there are enough notable ones. If not Delete. Sumsum2010·T·C 23:09, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I expect that "if there are enough notable ones" is the real question. Guoguo12--Talk-- 00:08, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 00:21, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete ...but... - even if these were all sourced, this seems arbitrary. But, I can see the potential value of a list of notable video game hardware and software cancellations that received significant coverage (NBA Elite 11, anyone?), similar to how List of commercial failures in video gaming is structured, but again, this would require strongly sourced statement to indicate how significant the cancellation was. --MASEM (t) 02:59, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, inevitably calls for WP:SYNTH.SharedPlanetType (talk) 03:39, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Being that a few of the systems on this list already have articles, a few others could make decent articles and others still would be better left as side notes in other articles, may I suggest a category as a possible (maybe better?) solution to this? -- Jelly Soup (talk) 05:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete – Most of these items wouldn't even be considered "cancelled" or were otherwise released. Noting that quite a few are listed as "released only in Japan" shows the level of US-centrism this list is. –MuZemike 22:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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